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Posted by: 736conver Aug 29 2004, 02:46 PM

Here's an example of what not to do. This guy came to me and said his wheels didnt fit right on his car and he has a vibration at higher speeds. He also said he did his own 5-lug conversion.
For those of you who dont have the right tools to do this dont do it. Also use quality parts too. The carnage is below.

Posted by: 736conver Aug 29 2004, 02:48 PM

Cheap wheel studs.....Looks like Bug Pack strikes again


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Posted by: 736conver Aug 29 2004, 02:48 PM

These were then Hammer in.


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Posted by: 736conver Aug 29 2004, 02:49 PM

Heres his way of countersinking.


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Posted by: 736conver Aug 29 2004, 02:51 PM

He use a hand drill to make this. They werent straight and the holes were not milled right for the studs to sit flush. Here is the correct way to do it. Dont mind the piece of bearing still on the hub.


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Posted by: Brad Roberts Aug 29 2004, 02:53 PM

Come on... everyone is trying to save a buck or two... It takes 5 minutes to do it right. It takes 5 hours to fix it when it is wrong.


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Posted by: 736conver Aug 29 2004, 02:57 PM

Not only that, he's out the whole $2.95 or whatever he spent on studs.

Plus new bearings at $35 a pop.

Didnt save a dime. Cost more in the long run.

Posted by: Aaron Cox Aug 29 2004, 02:59 PM

are the hubs really strong enuff for the studs to hold without any additional bossed or hub thickness? i had a set and they were way to thin to put studs on IMHO without any sort of backing/boss

Posted by: Brad Roberts Aug 29 2004, 03:01 PM

This is why I get BIG money for the early rear hubs with the raised bosses for 5 lug. It has both patterns cast into it. I stopped counting how many conversion cars have loose rear studs because of the thin material.


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Posted by: J P Stein Aug 29 2004, 06:25 PM

I figure I can sell my rear hubs and oil tank and get enuff to retire.....plan A.

Plan B is work till I die......

Posted by: markb Aug 29 2004, 09:59 PM

Damn, my plan A is your plan B....

Posted by: Aaron Cox Aug 29 2004, 10:02 PM

whats ur plan b?

play the lotto until your broke?

Posted by: redshift Aug 29 2004, 10:02 PM

I haven't even made plans..




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Posted by: synthesisdv Aug 29 2004, 10:08 PM

Yup, I actually switched from the thin hubs to the early hubs with the raised bosses. Just piece of mind.

dr


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Posted by: McMark Aug 29 2004, 11:38 PM

What about...

1. Machine off all bosses on the late style hub to get a nice flat circle.
2. Get a ring made of steel that you can then weld onto the newly machined surface.
3. Drill your holes and install your lugs in your new 360 degree thick hub.

Well?

Posted by: Brad Roberts Aug 29 2004, 11:45 PM

30lbs of rotating mass... We actually had a set of those floating around the shop. They weigh a ton when you are done.

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Posted by: SirAndy Aug 30 2004, 12:01 AM

or, you could just get a set of these ...

Andy


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Posted by: McMark Aug 30 2004, 12:38 AM

Spoken like a racer.

Posted by: watsonrx13 Aug 30 2004, 04:34 AM

Brad, Andy's showing off again. (hahahahaha)

Posted by: Cloudbuster Aug 30 2004, 02:58 PM

For re-drilled (and studded?) early model hubs, how many places to the left of the decimal point are we talking about filling?

Is installing converted 5 lug hubs a 'simple' (250 ft/lb) bolt on? If so, then I wouldn't need to source new stub axles, rotors, and calipers or worry about the parking brake issue either.

Posted by: McMark Aug 31 2004, 04:54 AM

Anyone have a set of late 4 lug hubs they don't need? I can't stop thinking about my idea, but don't have any spares to cut on. PM me.

Posted by: i love porsche Aug 31 2004, 04:44 PM

how early are you talking about?....71?