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Posted by: SirAndy Aug 29 2004, 07:39 PM

ok, finally got around to clean up my engine comp and tranny and exhaust.
took a few pics of the mess ...

let me just remind you that the heat exchangers are SS and were spotless when we put the motor and tranny in!

also, because the input shaft is above tranny oil level, it only throws out oil while you're driving, not a single drip when parked.
well, as you will see in the pictures, except the oil that has already made it out of the tranny ...

Andy


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Posted by: SirAndy Aug 29 2004, 07:39 PM

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Posted by: SirAndy Aug 29 2004, 07:41 PM

lots of oil made it into the engine comp, the flywheel flings it around and it gets sucked into the engine comp ....

yes, it's brand new blue swepco!


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Posted by: SirAndy Aug 29 2004, 07:41 PM

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Posted by: SirAndy Aug 29 2004, 07:42 PM

even on top of the carbs ...


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heat exchangers ...


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Posted by: SirAndy Aug 29 2004, 07:42 PM

other side


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Posted by: Aaron Cox Aug 29 2004, 07:43 PM

yummy!

Posted by: SirAndy Aug 29 2004, 07:43 PM

the underside


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Posted by: SirAndy Aug 29 2004, 07:43 PM

nuther


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the rear


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Posted by: SirAndy Aug 29 2004, 07:44 PM

even came out on the sides through the wheels!!!


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Posted by: SirAndy Aug 29 2004, 07:45 PM

and here's the puddle after i moved the car, this is a large can of brake cleaner to get an idea of the size.

and remember, it doesn't leak when parked, this is all stuff that dripped down after i got home, but it all had already left the tranny (while i was driving) ...




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Posted by: SirAndy Aug 29 2004, 07:46 PM

last one ...


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Posted by: Aaron Cox Aug 29 2004, 07:47 PM

at least nothing will rust now!

Posted by: vortrex Aug 29 2004, 07:50 PM

bet it's going to stop really well.

Posted by: Brad Roberts Aug 29 2004, 08:04 PM

Dont worry. Jenny will be helping us take that tranny out this week.


B

Posted by: SirAndy Aug 29 2004, 08:09 PM

haha, yeah right ...

Andy

Posted by: synthesisdv Aug 29 2004, 08:22 PM

Didn't catch exactly what happened to the tranny. Was your vent clogged or in the wrong direction?

dr

Posted by: SirAndy Aug 29 2004, 08:48 PM

looks like the main shaft seal blew out completely as soon as i put some real torque through the tranny with the new motor ...

never ending story ...
<_< Andy

Posted by: rick 918-S Aug 29 2004, 09:14 PM

That sux! What a mess!

Posted by: synthesisdv Aug 29 2004, 09:14 PM

that doesn't make me feel to good.

my tranny is definitely an unknown right now. It came from my parts car, never ran it actually. We'll see how it likes 7500 rpm from GA.

Anything I can do to check the tranny without breaking it down. I don't think I can tackle a tranny rebuild right now.

dr

Posted by: Joseph Mills Aug 29 2004, 11:30 PM

Dave,

I just went thru the same experience as Andy - leaking seal. In my case, after rebuilding the tranny, we finaly discovered the "spring" that fits around the inner "collar" of the rubber seal (main shaft) had popped off in reassembly. Cups of fluid on the ground after each test drive.

Since you've never ran your tranny, if you have a clutch disk - put it on the MS and turn it and confirm that it at least makes all gear changes.

You can drain the old fluid and refresh. Clean out the magnetic oil plug.

The MS oil seal is only five dollars - easy to replace.

Next would be what you said you don't want to do - remove the rear cover and inspect your low gear syncro and slider gear, or pull the intermediate plate and inspect all.

Posted by: synthesisdv Aug 30 2004, 05:52 AM

Thanks for the tip, how do you test each gear? I could only find 4, with the selector shaft all the way up or all the way down.

My main hope for the tranny is based on a bill for work done to the car in late 1999. Guy spent $1,600 at local well known P car shop on all tranny seals, and new clutch, TO bearing.

Figured he wouldn't have spent that much on the tranny if it was not shifting OK.

dr

Posted by: rhodyguy Aug 30 2004, 07:17 AM

wow!!! hard to imagine the mess could creep into the engine compartment too. what's the story with the engine mount bar? the extra trianglular piece. the story with the blue twine wrapped around the wiring? this thread will be of interest to other members sticking higher hp/torque engines in their cars.

kevin

Posted by: synthesisdv Aug 30 2004, 07:29 AM

Good eye, looks like a custom mount bar.

How much weight does it save?

dr

Posted by: Joseph Mills Aug 30 2004, 08:42 AM

You are probably just "missing" your shift point in your testing. It also takes a certain amount of "firmness" - especially with good syncros.

Clutch, TO & seals constitute about 350.00 in parts. So 1250.00 for labor seems high. He may have had some syncros, etc. replaced.

The tranny is pretty easy to install and remove. If you don't want to open it up for inspection, your alternative is to just install and test in the car. It may all be fine. If not, you can drop the tranny in 1/2 hour.

Posted by: synthesisdv Aug 30 2004, 08:47 AM

Thanks Joseph,

I think I am going to opt for the latter choice of testing and hope for the best. You never know with these old trannys.

dr

Posted by: SirAndy Aug 30 2004, 10:04 AM

the bar came with the engine, supposedly stronger than stock. seems to weight about the same.
the "blue twine" was used to keep the fuel-line and wires off the engine tin and has since been replaced with zip-ties ....

Andy

Posted by: ! Aug 31 2004, 08:49 AM

Nobody ever mentions the smell....transmission oil has got to be the nastiest smell ever......