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Posted by: jeff Feb 24 2012, 09:13 PM

Danica just grabbed the Pole for the Nationwide Daytona 500! She's got something tougher than balls,a vagina, those can take a pounding!

Posted by: balljoint Feb 24 2012, 09:30 PM

And there's a huge tribute thread to her in the Sandbox.

Posted by: RobW Feb 24 2012, 09:40 PM

What pole?

Posted by: RobW Feb 24 2012, 09:41 PM

In the dictionary under "redundant" it says "see redundant".... - Robin Williams

Posted by: Type 47 Feb 24 2012, 10:59 PM

LMFAO

but...yeah go Danica go with just hope she steps up to the plate and goes toe to toe with a lot of very experienced drivers (her Cup car owner Tony Stewert, the current champ,& Dale Jr. her Nationwide car owner) and a lot of pressure...maybe more than Indy.

Danica you go girl

Posted by: euro911 Feb 24 2012, 11:11 PM

When I read she took the pole, I thought ...


Oh, never mind

Posted by: scott_in_nh Feb 24 2012, 11:22 PM

I like Danica and she is in the Daytona 500, but what she won and deserves props for is the pole position for the Nationwide Drive4COPD 300 race which is obviously NOT the Daytona 500...

Posted by: SLITS Feb 25 2012, 01:06 AM

Yep, starts last as she kinda tore up her original car ...

Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 25 2012, 07:56 AM

Nope.. she didn't tear it up, she had a LOT of help with that one. Nobody, not even the revered Dale Sr. could have saved that car. I am impressed she could come out and set fastest lap and get the pole for the 300 after a crash like that.

Posted by: carr914 Feb 25 2012, 09:10 AM

Busch could have saved it - he showed that 3 Times last week

Posted by: SLITS Feb 25 2012, 09:11 AM

Well Clay ... the report that I read said she needed to go to the backup car and by the rules, starts dead last in the 500 field.

Duck Tape and JB Weld wouldn't fix what I saw in the picture. Fortunately, I don't care anyway.

Posted by: John Feb 25 2012, 06:20 PM

Yes, she is charismatic, yes she is a good driver.

Give me a shot in her car with a few laps, and I can best any time she can drive.

Or I will eat a (1/2) pound of her shit.

I'm just sayin'.

This is not my first rodeo.

Posted by: URY914 Feb 25 2012, 07:01 PM

Posted by: Racing916 Feb 25 2012, 07:08 PM

I dont really care for Danica, but John she would smoke you in any car, anytime. She is a "PROFESSIONAL" race car driver with 1000x more seat time then you. Do you think you could win a Indycar race if they put you in a car right now?

Posted by: carr914 Feb 25 2012, 07:24 PM

She couldn't win an Indy Car Race if they her back in a seat - her 1 Win was a Fluke, all fuel mileage related

Posted by: Racing916 Feb 25 2012, 08:06 PM

Yeah but she still is a better driver then any of us

Posted by: sixnotfour Feb 25 2012, 08:21 PM

strategy

Posted by: jeff Feb 25 2012, 09:31 PM

Yes, it's true she would outrun ant of us without breaking a sweat! If you want a humbling experience, go to you local kart track on a day before they have a club race, you'll find multiple 12-20 yr old kids that will make you look like a turtle! Lol...

Posted by: GeorgeRud Feb 25 2012, 10:12 PM

As with all racing, power to weight ratio is her favor ( or also the kids at the kart track). And good looks don't hurt sponsorship money as well!

Posted by: URY914 Feb 25 2012, 10:32 PM

This stupid comment is made in every DP thread.

Posted by: PeeGreen 914 Feb 25 2012, 10:36 PM

I am sure there are drivers in here that given the op could do as well or better. Much of it is about seat time but when you get to the upper level it has to do with something she doesn't have.

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Feb 25 2012, 11:40 PM

Anger, jealousy, envy and resentment. This thread is like a day time Soap Opera.

Posted by: euro911 Feb 26 2012, 01:00 AM

I'm feeling a bit ambivalent on the subject

But if she showed up at my door, I'd be a willing 'Go Daddy'

Posted by: Racing916 Feb 26 2012, 08:17 AM

Your right Ury914 just a stupid comment.

Posted by: 6freak Feb 26 2012, 10:14 AM

JMO but none of use could keep up with that hot little badger she`s a pro and we are wanna be`s , thats the bottom line....Stamina is very critical as well as seat time and many years behind the wheel of many fast cars .....but it would still be fun to try
for someone to think they could just have a day with her car and go out and win a nation wide pole ...dude your smoke n crack get real it takes years to develop that kinda speed...you would scare your self

he only problem is she`s not a pack racer ...SHE WONT PUSH ya`ll seen that Saturday.and you will see the same thing today! How long will they let her ride before they dump her .and she barely got touched and lost it then cryed ....Your right TC.there was a lot of beat n and bang n on cars all day and they didnt spin and many good saves

Sorry miss Patrick but you stink at big boy racing..But i still like ya just try and stay outta they way
MikeC

Posted by: PeeGreen 914 Feb 26 2012, 11:44 AM

I have to disagree Mike. There are guys on this board that are close to a pro level. Honestly, that is all she has ever been as well. She bring a lot of money with her so many teams want her. It is NOT because of her driving ability. Most of her pro career she has had the best equipment on the track and couldn't come away with anything to show for it. I'm not saying I am one of those drivers as I know I am certainly not.

Posted by: 6freak Feb 26 2012, 05:57 PM

you smoken crack too ...if they were that good they would be there like she is...just say n ......its ok to have dreams
MikeC

Posted by: carr914 Feb 26 2012, 08:30 PM

I will say this, none of us has her looks & we don't bring GoDaddy Dollars to the table. That is what seperates her from other Drivers.

Quite frankly, I know I could beat her - I would just give her a nudge ,she would hit the wall & I would Win

But in Reality for her it is the Money & Media she brings to the Table. For instance, my friend Rafa Matos, has won 5 Major Championships in the last 8-9 years ( including Indy Lights), has won the 24 Hours of Daytona, but has little money ( 3 years ago his Daily Driver was a used VW GTi) & no big backers. He lost his Indy Car rides twice to others that brought huge sums of money. In equal equipment he would Dust her.

Posted by: URY914 Feb 26 2012, 08:32 PM

She didn't hit the wall today.



Oh wait, the race was postponed. Sorry.

Posted by: rdauenhauer Feb 27 2012, 01:35 AM

Talk about stupid comments. "Thats big boy racing", "Give her a little nudge"... what a bunch of BS!
If you couldnt beat her, or anyone else clean you dont have a clue about "Racing".

Posted by: 6freak Feb 27 2012, 09:14 AM

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I have to disagree Mike. There are guys on this board that are close to a pro level. Honestly, that is all she has ever been as well. She bring a lot of money with her so many teams want her. It is NOT because of her driving ability. Most of her pro career she has had the best equipment on the track and couldn't come away with anything to show for it. I'm not saying I am one of those drivers as I know I am certainly not.
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you smoken crack too ...if they were that good they would be there like she is...just say n ......its ok to have dreams
MikeC
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I will say this, none of us has her looks & we don't bring GoDaddy Dollars to the table. That is what seperates her from other Drivers.

Quite frankly, I know I could beat her - I would just give her a nudge ,she would hit the wall & I would Win

But in Reality for her it is the Money & Media she brings to the Table. For instance, my friend Rafa Matos, has won 5 Major Championships in the last 8-9 years ( including Indy Lights), has won the 24 Hours of Daytona, but has little money ( 3 years ago his Daily Driver was a used VW GTi) & no big backers. He lost his Indy Car rides twice to others that brought huge sums of money. In equal equipment he would Dust her.
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I agree cause he`s a pro...push n not dirty race n Rich nor is rubb n fenders ..they all do it..its what it takes to go fast and win
anywho i think the big draw for me is seeing 43 cars that close togather at that speed for that amount of time ..yes i can get boring at times and yes they can wreck abunch of stuff in one crash ,but most the time it comes right down to the checkers..no one wins by laps and lots of the times its within a second ..I just think its more fun to watch then most racing.....CEPT MONSTER TRUCKS WITH MY LITTLE BOY

Posted by: Richard Casto Feb 27 2012, 09:26 AM

I tend to be a fan of drivers who falls into the “nice guy” category. They are not asses on or off track and tend to not run their mouth, stomp around or pout when things go badly. So because of her personality and antics, I am NOT a Danica fan.

But I always get a real kick out of the “anti-Danica” stuff on the various motorsports forums I visit. Particularly the “she is only here because she is a good looking women” and “I could beat her” comments.

Let’s take the good looking women part first. We need to first equally beat up on the vast majority of pro driver who are in the sport because they either have loads of family or sponsor money. She is really no different than someone who has hustled sponsorship and maybe better than someone who has cruised on family money. Sure it has been easier for her as she has played up her looks, but who wouldn’t take the easy route if it was presented to them? There is only a small handful of driver in any series who are pursued by the top teams and don’t have to bring personal or sponsor money to the table to drive. Even then, most (if not all) of this “cream of the crop” were initially noticed only because family or sponsorship money allowed them to participate enough at a lower level to be noticed by the bigger teams who have their own money. In short, if you are in the top levels of motorsport, family or sponsorship money had more to do with your climb upwards it than skill. Not that I am saying at all that skill is not required.

Then you have the issue of her skill. I do believe that “she has risen to her level of incompetence” (Google “Peter Principle”). In short, she has been promoted up until she can no longer succeed. But… she is participating at the top level and while she will most likely not significantly improve, don’t discount her ability. Yes, her marketability (i.e. ability to get sponsorship) has allowed her to cruse to the top, but you can’t just stuff anyone into a car, give them a wad of cash and then expect them to do well. You have to want to race and have skill. And to even participate and survive (not kill yourself) at that level you have to be more than be just “good”.

There have been plenty of others who have the heart and desire to be a pro racer, hustled the money together by mortgaging their house, etc. and have failed miserably due to more desire than talent. Most fall out at a much lower level. Some die trying. What is sad (and life is not fair) are those who do have true talent (and there are a lot out there) but are just are not able to get the money together to make it work. They do everything right, are good enough to win at the top level, but the dice just doesn’t roll their way.

So I have no doubt she is a racer at heart and I also have to accept the fact that she is likely to be better than me or anyone else on this forum. Granted, someone on this forum may secretly have Michael Schumacher skills (highly unlikely, but a possibility), but in general, I can do nothing but laugh at those who discount her skill by trying to pump up their own. Frankly, as someone pointed out earlier, it is nothing but envy and jealousy. Those who have raced her and have beat her have a real story to tell. Everyone else is just flapping their lips.

Sorry if this rubs some the wrong way.

Richard

Posted by: carr914 Feb 27 2012, 09:38 AM

My comment about a Nudge was really a "Tongue in Cheek", but also a dig about how they race in Nascar - if she can't take a slight tap without crashing, she doesn't belong.

I've beaten Montoya, Herta & others in Races, and my son came close to beating Danica in a Kart, so I think I know a little about Racing Clean ( & Dirty )

Posted by: scott_in_nh Feb 27 2012, 09:41 AM

Even if you want to dump her you have to get to her rear bumper 1st!

I like Danica, but IMO she isn’t/wasn’t even the best current female Indy car driver - Simona de Silvestro is.

While I’m not a fan of what NASCAR Nextel Cup is today (I liked the racing in the 80’s and 90’s), the idea that someone here could step up and race with the big boys right out of the box is a joke. I’m not saying you aren’t fast, I’m saying you need seat time to compete.

To those that think the only reason they lose at the local kart track is their weight – that is BS too. Once again talent and seat time will rule the day even if you added weight to even things up.

I’ll agree that at times the drivers who bring money get the rides over drivers with more talent, but just being a world class driver with the best equipment is no guarantee of immediate success in NASCAR as a long string of drivers who have come and gone or are still there but run mid-pack at best will attest.

Montoya couldn’t do it, Hornish couldn't do it – you have some kind of (false) ego if you are not a professional racer or Saturday night hero but think you could!

Sports cars aren’t NASCAR, IndyCar isn’t NASCAR, F1 isn’t NASCAR, Supercross isn’t….

All of this is Blah, blah, blah anyway – other than possibly endurance sport car racing - professional 4 wheel racing in this country sucks.

The teams do not have enough leeway to find an advantage so all the racing is too bunched up which is great for the new type of racing fan that really doesn’t understand racing strategy and only cares if their driver has a chance of winning at the end of the race.

All the classes are too aero, have too much tire, too much downforce and not enough HP. If you went back to what Indycars and stock cars had in the 60’s and 70’s we would find out really quickly who can really drive!

This is why the trucks typically put on the best race.

Watch Superbike and MotoGP if you want to see real racing – tremendous power to weight, zero downforce, skinny tires and real differences between manufacturers and riders!

If you want to watch good stock car racing – go to your local bullring and watch the local Saturday night heroes instead!

Posted by: URY914 Feb 27 2012, 09:58 AM

I think that Danica the name brand has outgrown Danica the driver with talent. Of course she will never admit to this. There was a time when she was coming into IndyCar and the media hype was ramping up with her. Now the hype is overwelming Danica the driver. Non-race fans in my office know the name but have no idea she hasn't produced on the track. She carries a huge media hype that she will never be able to realize as a driver. But she is getting rich doing it so it's all good for her.

Posted by: URY914 Feb 27 2012, 10:13 AM

Looks like the race is due to start at 7:00 tonight.



They were going to start earlier by Danica had to get her nails done.

Posted by: scott_in_nh Feb 27 2012, 10:26 AM

All true, but replace "Danica" with "Jr." and it's just as valid.

Posted by: carr914 Feb 27 2012, 11:45 AM

Danica is not a Current Indy Driver

I disagree on weight in Karting - it makes a Big difference




I don't care for Jr, but at least at one point he was producing results

Posted by: scott_in_nh Feb 27 2012, 11:59 AM

After more than 30000 race laps he had a couple of passable years.



He seems like a genuine, nice guy, but he is an average (cup) driver at best - certainly not worth the "Junior nation" hype....

He'll probably go down as a better cup driver than her, but I don't think he could ever compete as well as she did in Indy cars.

Posted by: racerbvd Feb 27 2012, 12:00 PM

Well, Jr had help, lots of it to his his results, I remember seeing him whine about racing in the dark & rain at his 2nd 24 Hour Daytona Race, was a real whiny pussy about driving in the rain..

Posted by: rdauenhauer Feb 27 2012, 12:39 PM

I couldnt AGREE more!

Posted by: scott_in_nh Feb 27 2012, 12:40 PM

That's why I said "isn't/wasn't" the point being the Simona is a better driver who gets less attention than she deserves.



Agreed - It makes a big difference among drivers with similar capabilities.

I'm saying the local track hot shoe with 1000's of laps is still going to kick your ass even if you add the weight because he/she has the laps and talent in those karts, on that track.

I can go to the local "fun center" and kick everyones ass - kids, dads, everyone.
When I go to F1 Boston (about once every 5 years), I can kick everyones ass who showed up off the street to race. I cannot beat the guys who work there or who are the drivers who rule the track series and have serious seat time.

Weight doesn't help, but it has zero to do with not being able to beat them.

If weight is your only excuse for losing you are not as good as you think you are.

Posted by: PeeGreen 914 Feb 27 2012, 01:21 PM

I think it will depend on how much you are losing by and what the weight difference is.

Posted by: Richard Casto Feb 27 2012, 01:41 PM

When you are 6'5" and weigh 280+ it does make a difference. It is hard to kart race against people who may be 150-200 lbs less than you. Particularly on tight tracks that don't allow you to keep up momentum.

Richard

Posted by: PeeGreen 914 Feb 27 2012, 01:55 PM

With me at 180 and some of the people I race with at 140 there is a big advantage there as well. 10lbs is a big advantage in a low HP kart.

However, in Danica's situation the weight isn't as big of a factor now as she is playing with MUCH more HP. It still is a factor though.

Someone earlier was comparing Danica with Jr. The ONLY issue I have with that is Jr at least has won a few races recently and has 18 in the CUP series. We will see how many races Danica even finishes this year.

Posted by: scott_in_nh Feb 27 2012, 02:28 PM

If she gets more than one top ten she will be off to a better start then Jr. did his rookie year. Winning a few races recently is the same as Danica winning a few races a decade from now - so what?

The real point was they are both mediocre drivers that fate has pushed to the forefront for reasons outside of the cockpit.

Back to the karting - yes 280 is a problem, but you are the exception.

I completely agree that karting is about momentum, that is my entire point about it.
Yes 10 lbs. make a difference, but even at 180 to 140 I'm sure you have beat lighter drivers, even some decent ones - no? if not, I'll say it again you're just not as good as you think you are.

My brother maybe weights 15-20 lbs more than I do, but he has more kart seat time and does a better job carrying speed - hence he usually beats me.

My son is 40 lbs. lighter, doesn't have the driving experience, can't carry speed and can't beat me.

Posted by: andys Feb 27 2012, 02:30 PM

Kart racers are aware that all classes have a minimum weight requirement. Competitive racers will chose a class where their wieght is not a penalty. 5'2"/100lbs could race in the heaviest class by adding balast, so no advantage would be realized.

Andys

Posted by: PeeGreen 914 Feb 27 2012, 02:40 PM

I think most of us are simply talking about going to your local track for fun days.

Yes, for competition they do have classes, but even those have a 20-30lb swing.

Posted by: rhodyguy Jul 17 2012, 09:22 AM

if ANY of the racers on this forum were capable of competing in NASCAR (even the old winston west series) they'd be doing it. big dif between 60 to 80 seconds on an AX course at what, 60mph tops and all alone, and getting a gentle nudge at 190+ or 3 wide flat out on the high banks. as for her size...jeff gordon, kasey kahne, and others aren't exactly giants.

the indy guys who consistantly wad up their cars and never finish in the top 10 let alone the top 20.

look at all the regular back runners who are NEVER in the hunt. derick cope (tacoma local) for example. the woman can drive and is a hell of alot easier on the eyes than janet guthrie.

Posted by: carr914 Jul 17 2012, 10:17 AM

You make the Assumption that there are no Real Racers on this Forum. And you would be Dead Wrong! Vic Elford comes to mind and even at his age, he would put Whiney Patrick in the Weeds

Posted by: scotty b Jul 17 2012, 10:35 AM

HMmmm

July 17- Feb 27 = one long ass nap for Rhodyguy

Posted by: dlkawashima Jul 17 2012, 10:59 AM

Derrike Cope is the guy's name. But he does have two nieces that are attractive and getting attention, just like Danica.

Posted by: carr914 Jul 17 2012, 11:41 AM

Janet Guthrie could drive better than DP

Posted by: rhodyguy Jul 17 2012, 11:56 AM

i have no idea how this was on the front page scott. i just replied. i did not pull this up from the archives.

thanks for clearing up derrike's correct spelling and the fact that the "woman" was patrick. oh, i mean danika not swayze. sharp eye dave. while we're in grammar mode, most sentences don't start with "but".

i assumed nothing tc nor did i use the word "REAL" in the post. get out your reading glasses or presume less. i didn't know vic was a member of 914world. he sure doesn't post much. exactly how many 'known' pro racers regularly post on the site? nascar, indy, etc...name 2. while you're at it, name me 2 full time professionally employed racers who hang here.



cope's twin nieces (ashley and amber?) were recently in a photo shoot in one of the non-nude men's mags (FM i think). with the first win one of them achieved she bought sets of bolts ons for her and her sister. my neighbor crewed for them before they made the move back east.

Posted by: euro911 Jul 17 2012, 11:58 AM

I was pretty good at kart racing when I was a teen (MANY years ago) ... tried it again briefly in my late 30's and found I still had some skill left in me.

I have no idea how I'd do in a real car in a real track environment, probably not that great. I think it takes some pretty big balls (or tits as it goes) to get out on a track with professional drivers.

I'd like to try it though

Charmin TP might sponsor me

Posted by: URY914 Jul 17 2012, 12:20 PM

I just googled the Cope twins. Those are two crackhead lookin' girls. They should sue the store they bought those tits from.

Posted by: rhodyguy Jul 17 2012, 12:26 PM

way too big and obviously fake. prob obscure their navel rings when unfettered.

k

Posted by: URY914 Jul 17 2012, 12:38 PM

Wish they were big enough to obscure thier faces....

Posted by: rhodyguy Jul 17 2012, 12:49 PM

. good one paul. NOT sandbox worthy for sure.

Posted by: biggy72 Jul 17 2012, 01:12 PM

I used to race in a lower class at the same track the cope twins were at. They are actually really pretty, but they have definitely gone down hill as they have gotten more and more fake looking...

They are also both pretty good drivers, but I'm not sure they are good enough to be running the nationwide series. It just makes it worse that they can't afford very good equipment so they're always at the tail end of the field when they do make a race.

Posted by: andys Jul 17 2012, 01:34 PM

Did anyone catch Kevin Harvick's comments post Natiowide race? He got blocked by Amber Cope who was 20+ laps down (?), and it cost him the victory. Said she doesn't belong out there, and the she couldn't carry Danica's helmet......If a well respected front running Cup guy thinks well of Danica, it's a credible endorsement.

Andys

Posted by: carr914 Jul 17 2012, 05:03 PM

You don't Understand Big-Time Racing. There is a Reason that the saying " How do you make a Small Fortune Racing? Start with a Large Fortune" is so true. Without the Bankroll of Motorola, Go Daddy etc, Danica would be making some man a Samwich right now.

I have raced against ( & beaten) some of the Big Names ( Montoya, Andretti, Herta, etc), but I raced on Emotion & Talent and very little Money. When I had to pay for Crash Damage (in 1991, while also going through a nasty Divorce) it basically ended the Dream. But I can say I was a Finalist for Jack Roush's Gong Show talent search ( Robby Gordon Won) & I still have the talent.

Posted by: broomhandle Jul 17 2012, 05:42 PM

Vanina Ickx is also better than DP.

Posted by: carr914 Jul 17 2012, 05:46 PM

as is Cyndie Allerman & Maryeve Default

Posted by: broomhandle Jul 17 2012, 05:48 PM

People in the US just like DP becasue they think she is the only female driver in the history of the world. and they also think that nascar is the only racing in the world....

haha

Posted by: struckn Jul 17 2012, 08:09 PM

Well, Danica's not hard to look at.......might have something to do with it and the Go Daddy gig doesn't hurt getting her noticed either.

Posted by: URY914 Jul 29 2012, 06:33 AM

Nationwide Series: Crash ends Danica Patrick's return to IMS

http://www.indystar.com/article/20120728/SPORTS0109/120728010/-b-Nationwide-Series-b-Crash-ends-Danica-Patrick-s-return-IMS

“This guy is starting to piss me off,” Patrick angrily told her crew over the radio.


A moment later, she was out of the race.

Posted by: ConeDodger Jul 29 2012, 07:17 AM

Neighbor kid right across the street sells rebuilt engines online. He's a former world champion shifter kart driver. He trained one of the Andretti kids who is now got a sponsored ride. He won that world championship with broken ribs! He can't get a ride because his parents don't have a few million a year to throw at his career to get it started...
Kids a major talent. We chase each other around the back roads in the mountains on occasion. Him in his 350Z, me in my 240Z... It's poetry to watch him take a corner. He brakes so late if at all and he is on it and gone before you can blink...

As for Danica being not hard to look at, I have never seen her smile if she wasn't being paid to smile... That, by itself is so very unattractive about her...

Oh, and I just saw the news this morning. "Danica Crashes Out of Race"... There's a surprise!

Posted by: URY914 Jul 30 2012, 06:55 PM

OK Danica lovers, this one is for you.....


http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/our-country/danica-patrick-miranda-lambert-full-throttle-racy-music-210401589.html

Posted by: Spoke Jul 30 2012, 07:30 PM

Danica should take some of her racing prize money, get the tramp stamp removed and buy some implants.

Posted by: URY914 Jul 30 2012, 08:26 PM

...and start making pornos.

Posted by: Bullethead Jul 30 2012, 09:26 PM

“I don’t know what happened,” Patrick said after the race. “I got close. I might have tapped him, I’m not sure.”

Posted by: URY914 Jul 31 2012, 04:44 AM

"...I was texting my BFF and looked up and there he was. I got close. I might have tapped him, I'm not sure."

Posted by: tracks914 Jul 31 2012, 08:28 PM

I'm not a Danica fan or hater. I just know that in 4 years of stock car racing ovals (both dirt and pavement) I had good equipment, (because I built and maintained it myself) I won (heats and features) 76% of the time. (that's 1st place)
Could I keep up to her, I doubt it at first but I would like to go a few laps with her just to see if I measure up.

Posted by: URY914 Apr 22 2013, 09:39 AM

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nascar/story/2013-04-21/danica-patrick-mad-david-gilliland-feud-kansas-race-results

Look at the reader's comments at the end of the page. This one is classic.....

"Pockrass actually outdid himself with this biased article. He got it wrong about how many times she was lapped. Two, not one. He also failed to report that Miss Lapped 17 Times has been lapped 17 times, has failed to finish in the lead lap in 7 of her 9 races for 2013 and has now lost 145 straight races. It adds up to her stellar records of 1-240 (career), 0-79 (NASCAR career), 0-9 (2013) and 68 Non Top 10 finishes.

As usual...excuses, excuses, excuses for Miss Lapped 17 Times. This time it's junk on the grill. Who's to blame for the next dismal performance? The Easter Bunny? The Tooth Fairy? Santa Claus?

Oh, and how ironic that she's bellyaching about drivers taking her out. Last year, she TWICE tried to take out opposing drivers and was actually glorified by the biased news media for one of those acts."

Posted by: bulitt Apr 22 2013, 02:23 PM

JPM better get in gear also. There are expiration dates on driving careers.

Posted by: bcheney May 1 2013, 05:25 AM

Danica update: Last night she scored from center ice at her hometown Chicago Blackhawks game....maybe now all of you haters will come to terms with her talents with a stick..

Posted by: iamchappy May 1 2013, 07:40 AM

I wish she played for the Wild..

Posted by: andys May 1 2013, 10:10 AM

NASCAR marketing, and varoius business journals unanimously agree that Danica is marketing gold on par with being considered super star level, and has made a significant impact on increasing viewership. This is not my opinion, but theirs. NASCAR commentators and drivers also agree that she is good for the sport, and are glad to have her. So while many question her talent, you can't under value the impact she has made.

In terms of talent, she lead many laps at the 2012 Nationwide race in Montreal before a componet failure took her out, and she ran in the top 5 all day at the 2012 Nationwide Road America race and got bumped on the last lap. In both these events, she was running with (and ahead of) the best roadracers in the business. Oh, and finishing 8th at Daytona and 12th at Martinsville wasn't a bad showing either. These are just the facts; you decide.

Andys

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Posted by: bulitt May 1 2013, 12:36 PM

Posted by: URY914 May 1 2013, 02:40 PM

Her few good finishs are a direct result of NASCAR looking the other way when it comes to post race inspections.

Posted by: bcheney May 1 2013, 09:01 PM

Finally....I knew I could count on you!

Posted by: naro914 May 2 2013, 09:19 PM

She's a good driver. Not great, just good. But I don't begrudge her for all the media hype.

Just think of what it took for her to get where she is: first, MOST girls DO NOT grow up wanting to race cars. Out of the miniscule few that might even think about it, the chance of one having a family to support it emotionally AND financially is pretty slim. And even with support, desire, and finances, you STILL have to have enough talent to continue (see Milka Duno, who had desire and money backing but ZERO talent)

Since 2010, only about 23 drivers have won the 117 Sprint Cup races, out of over 100+ drivers that have entered. Even Mr. Popular Dale Jr has only won once in a few years...

To win in Nascar, you need to be on a top team, have perfect equipment, have talent, and have some luck. Half of all races since 2010 have been won by Hendrick or Joe Gibbs Racing... Deck is stacked against smaller teams winning, especially a rookie driver on a smaller team. Yes, Stewart Haas has won (who Danica races for) but most of those wins have been Tony Stewart, who is one of the top drivers in Nascar.

She's better than just about all of us. My only complaint is she left a race series I paid some attention to (IRL) and went to one I care zero about...

Posted by: andys May 3 2013, 09:26 AM

You've made a statement of fact, so perhaps you're prepared to substatiate it with a link or news article to support this. If it's true, I sure want to know.

Andys

Posted by: URY914 May 3 2013, 06:38 PM

Yea right, I’m going to reveal my sources on a public forum. And do you really think NASCAR would want to see a story about this hit the news? The writer would be run off the road into a tree. They have their own version of the CIA to handle things like this. I’ve already said too much.

Posted by: bcheney May 3 2013, 09:20 PM

Well said...I wonder who on this board is better than her? I think it pretty safe to say if you placed anyone on this board in her current NASCAR or a current Indycar and held a showdown at Daytona or the Glen they would not keep up with her on their best day.

Posted by: bulitt May 4 2013, 03:33 AM

Shes good for the sport. Which I find particularly boring to watch even though I know it takes alot of talent to finish well. And racing balls out for 4 hours, thats crazy.

The more people diss her, the more I like her (I have two daughters). She doesn't seem to seek out the media, they come looking for her. And it appears she really loves what she does. How many young people dont have a clue what they want to do in life after 4 or 6 years of college?

She seems whiney at times, but then they all do at times, there is tremendous pressure to perform well and alot of people counting on her.

Whats nice about racing today- we as fans get to watch our heroes for a long, long time. Back in the seventies virtually every other formula1 race had a driver fatality. Imagine Michael Schumacher being killed in 1995 instead of the career he had. They completely lost the fan base. We get to blog about drivers for decades now!

Love her, hate her, her performance over time will write her story.

Posted by: carr914 May 4 2013, 04:21 AM

And her Story will be of a Whiny Bitchy Loser!

She has One (1) Win in over 10 Years of Racing! and that was a Fuel Mileage Fluke. And she has been with the BEST Teams with the BEST Equipment every step of the way.

I have met her and she is the Biggest Bitch on the Planet (she even beats out my ex-wife).

Is she good for the Sport - Yes. Is she the Best Woman Racer - No. I think she has created a Double-Edge sword for Young Girls who want to Race - it has created an Avenue, but people also see that Sex Sells, not Talent!

As far as someone from here beating her - I'm sure if you went back in time and gave some of us the Seat Time, we could beat her. Could we just step into a Nascraper or IndyCar tomorrow & beat her - No.

My son came in 2nd to her in a GoKart 15 Years ago after he had started a month earlier and she had years in a Kart. Racing Talent is nurtured.

Posted by: GeorgeRud May 4 2013, 05:57 AM

Say what you will about her, she helps the marketing of NASCAR, and it is a business after all, with no pretense of being a pure sport. I think that years of 'debris on the backstretch' and other methods of 'helping the show' have made many folks doubt that it sometimes isn't a bit like professional wrestling. Ever wondered why the great Richard Petty somehow got his 200th win with an engine that 'somehow' was too big?

Read Smokey Yunick's book 'The Best Damn Garage in Town' for a whole lot more information on professional racing. It's a great eye opener.

That said, enjoy the show and pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

Posted by: URY914 May 4 2013, 06:09 AM

Once AGAIN yes, she is better than anyone here. She should be. She’s a pro driver. If you read back through this thread I don’t think you’ll find anyone seriously thinking they are better than her. The problem is she is not better than other pro drivers and is getting paid not for her talent but for her image. It erodes the sport and further proves that this is less of a sport and more of a business. Race results used to matter to team owners. This has been the case in F1. Even if the driver would bring dollars to the team he still must have results. If the driver didn’t produce on race day another driver was found. Those days seem to be over.

I give her credit for one thing, she has taken her mediocre talent added in some bathing suit promo photos and she is laughing all the way to the bank. She is using the system and the system is using her.

If you are looking for female race drivers who get results, check out Ashley and Courtney Force. Here are two drivers that can be inspirational to our daughters. They actually win races, they both graduated college (both with degrees in communications, something DP could use) and they both look a whole lot better then DP.
Here is a shot of Courtney...

Posted by: bcheney May 4 2013, 08:04 AM

Courtney Force (born June 20, 1988) is a Funny Car drag racer for John Force Racing. She is the youngest daughter of 15-time NHRA Funny Car national champion John Force and his wife Laurie Force. She is a graduate of Cal State Fullerton having majored in Communications.[1] On July 19, 2009 Courtney won her first National event in the Top Alcohol Dragster category at the 22nd annual NHRA Northwest Nationals in Seattle, Washington.[1] She ended up amassing enough points in that season to win the Top Alcohol Championship. In 2012, after her sister Ashley Force announced her retirement from competitive racing, Courtney became the fourth driver for John Force Racing, driving the Traxxas Ford Mustang, while at the same time, it was announced that Brittnay Force would handle the driving duties for a Top Fuel Dragster sponsored by Brandsource.

I am sure the Force sisters are great people and very talented/smart and professional. Their dad is prolific in the "business" and has afforded them every "advantage" in their career development. Racing is primarily about business and secondarily about sport. Top level drivers are definitely elite "atheletes" in every sense of the word..However, one question is how many top level drivers would go racing if there was no money in it? How many teams would be interested if there was no money in it? Money makes it all happen. All the driving talent in the world wouldn't make for a good "show" because the equipment would be so terrible and so slow no one would be interested. Danica is just another driver for us to talk about and follow. She stirs emotions because she has "dared" to compete in a business/sport that is dominated by men. Maybe you dont like the way she talks or the way she looks or the way she drives...One thing is for sure...she is working her ass off...is committed to her career, shows up for work, puts in her time and tries to improve under harsh circumstances and conditions...which is completely "admirable" in my book. I love hearing everyone chime in on this stuff. Thanks for always kicking in your opinions!!

Posted by: URY914 May 4 2013, 07:39 PM

^Brian, I think you have a future in politics.

Posted by: carr914 May 4 2013, 09:02 PM

I guess Cheating on her Husband is Admirable Too?

Posted by: bcheney May 5 2013, 06:14 AM

I missed that one...when did she cheat on her husband? Please give all the details so this thread remains fair and balanced:)

Posted by: URY914 May 5 2013, 07:07 AM

Google is your friend....."

Patrick's divorce papers, signed by a judge, were filed on April 17, but she's been dating rookie NASCAR driver Ricky Stenhouse Jr. for months."

Posted by: Jgilliam914 May 5 2013, 07:25 AM

Damn guys... Don't be judgin!! I am sure there are damn few people bound for Sainthood in this forum? She is a capable driver not great and not a back marker either! She is there for marketing purposes. Nascars viewership is way up since the beginning of the year. She does have a chance to win any restrictor plate race due to the fact Nascar owns the intakes on these cars. But look at Juan Pablo Montoya. Everyone here knows he is one HELL of a driver and this has translated into how many Cup wins? Not many. Cup driving is not easy. With the restrictions to parts that there is very little " outside the box thinking" to make your car better than anothers. Equipment breaks and too many aggressive moves by others can take out half the field every week. It is entertainment especially the last 10 laps. You try driving at high speed in extremely close competition for 3-4 hours and you will see what kind of athletes they actually are. I tip my hat to them all to get to that stage and are able to compete

Posted by: Spoke May 5 2013, 08:21 AM

I think this is the reason so many people have an issue with Danica. Or Danican't as I've seen her name butchered on some websites.

For the most part, racing is a competition and usually the best driver with the best equipment wins and gets the accolades.

Rarely does the 8th or 12th or 20th place driver get any attention. Or along those lines, the 4th place driver in the Indy 500 get their picture on the cover of Sports Illustrated.

Dan Wheldon who won the Indy 500 that year later turned up wearing a T-shirt with the phrase "Actually Won The Indy 500" on the front since the media was ogling Danica for the 4th place finish.

Danica is a product of our times where you don't have to do anything to be a media star like the Kardashians, Paris Hilton, Nicole Richie.

I was happy when she made the move from Indycar to Nascar as now the media frenzy following her can allow Indycar to get back to the business of racing.

I'm not sure if the added attention she brings really helps attendance at races or TV viewership.

Posted by: naro914 May 5 2013, 03:34 PM

Hmmmm....5 pages on a 914 forum discussing Danica Patrick and Nascar.

Yep, she/they have won...

Posted by: bandjoey May 5 2013, 07:59 PM

http://www.ispot.tv/ad/7oAl/coca-cola-racing-family-road-trip

Danica's NASCAR family trip. Proves she a real man!

Posted by: URY914 May 5 2013, 08:44 PM

Retirements:

Terry Labonte FAS Lane Ford 185 laps
Kurt Busch Furniture Row Chevrolet 182 laps
JJ Yeley Baldwin Chevrolet 182 laps
Ryan Newman Stewart-Haas Chevrolet 182 laps
Danica Patrick Stewart-Haas Chevrolet 182 laps
Hamlin/Vickers Joe Gibbs Toyota 148 laps*
Joey Logano Penske Ford 143 laps
Greg Biffle Roush Fenway Ford 141 laps*
Kyle Busch Joe Gibbs Toyota 138 laps*
Travis Kvapil BK Toyota 128 laps*
Joe Nemechek NEMCO Toyota 53 laps
Kevin Harvick Childress Chevrolet 47 laps
David Reutimann BK Toyota 43 laps
Kasey Kahne Hendrick Chevrolet 42 laps
Trevor Bayne Wood Brothers Ford 22 laps

James Hinchcliffe won an extraordinary IndyCar race in Sao Paulo by taking the lead from Takuma Sato on the final corner of the last lap.

Hinchcliffe took DP's seat at Andretti Racing.

Posted by: carr914 May 6 2013, 04:05 AM

The Mayor of Hinchtown now has 2 Wins in the GoDaddy IndyCar in 4 Races this year. GoDaddy gets to Victory Lane! (it's the only way they are going to get there)

Posted by: rhodyguy May 6 2013, 07:11 AM

maybe rs jr just has a bigger package. i'm not talking sponsorship or endorsements. danica's husband is going to walk away from the marriage with a boat load of cash that should last a long time and she's the one that puts her life on the line. relationships go south. that's why god made divorce attnys. you think the male drivers don't lay major pipe when the pit poopsies start lining up?

k

Posted by: ThePaintedMan May 6 2013, 08:11 AM

I have to admit, I kick out of this thread... but you guys do sound a lot like the "Real Housewives of 914World."

Posted by: gothspeed May 6 2013, 04:15 PM

... and at the beginning of the race, she will be 'sitting' on the pole ...

.... sorry couldn't resist ....

Posted by: SirAndy May 6 2013, 04:27 PM

What does that have to do with anything? Are you trying to tell me there are *NO* male drivers that have ever cheated on their wife's?

Posted by: URY914 May 6 2013, 06:44 PM

And those male drivers shouldn't be called admirable either. I don't think anyone should be called "admirable" if they cheat. Being a man or women doesn't have much to do with it.

Posted by: carr914 May 6 2013, 07:15 PM

Posted by: naro914 May 6 2013, 07:25 PM

Says he with "Bada Bing" in his avatar

Posted by: naro914 May 6 2013, 07:26 PM

again...see post #99

Posted by: carr914 May 6 2013, 07:45 PM

I'm Single - therefore I Cheat on No One!

Posted by: naro914 May 6 2013, 07:49 PM

ha!

Posted by: URY914 May 7 2013, 10:33 AM

This week the circus rolls into Darlington. DP will have her hands full.

Posted by: carr914 May 7 2013, 11:05 AM

The Darlington Stripe will be in the Seat of her Pants!

Posted by: get off my lawn May 7 2013, 02:00 PM

DP is where she is, making millions and getting all this publicity. because of that thing twixt her legs.

If she was a male with hte same driving skills, recirds, etc she'd be out of work.

But because of her puss she gets mentioned in the news for finishing 12th.
She gets endorsements for being built like a 12 year old boy.

Sjhe gets a great ride with a great team knowing she'll only finish mid-pack at best, because of that publicity.
I don't dislike her except that she takes advantage of that reverse discrimiation to profit from it and that is immoral IMO.

But what really pissed me off is the poser journalists who play along and say "bubba finished first at dover, billy bob finished 2nd, and danica finished 35th.
Same with the force girls. NHRA totally promotes women and minorities, it's so obvious its sickening. But don't mention that at the awards banquet, noooooooo!

If you're a white male you have to make it to the semi-finals just to get your name or sponsor mentioned, but they have no problem doing a 10 minute expose on a female driver (like horse face longoria) who coincidentally, failed to qualify that weekend.

It isn't fair, it isn't right, it's bullshit and it's time people started speaknig the truth instead of only saying whats PC and popular at parties.

Posted by: URY914 May 7 2013, 03:03 PM

^^^Pretty much sums it up.

Posted by: SirAndy May 7 2013, 03:43 PM

You don't like wimmen much, do you?

Posted by: 396 May 7 2013, 04:02 PM

Free Bump for what seems a never ending post

Posted by: naro914 May 7 2013, 04:22 PM

^^^ from you avatar, your screen name and your rant....you sir have some anger management issues

Posted by: ThePaintedMan May 7 2013, 06:44 PM

W(hy)TF are we talking about drivers in NASCrap and drag racing anyways? Male, female, other, doesn't really make much difference. Everyone knows that sportscar racing is really the only thing relevant to the real world (always has been) and where most of the really talented drivers are anyway.

Posted by: GeorgeRud May 7 2013, 07:49 PM

I'd beg to differ a bit. Professional racing is a business, and whatever brings in money (sponsorship, prize money, appearance money, family money, drug money) has always fed the beast. There are many talented drivers in all the series, and I think you'd find that the Tony Stewarts, AJ Foyts, Mario Andrettis, and others are good at whatever they drive. I still remember when AJ jumped into one of Preston Henn's Swap Shop 935s at the 24 hrs. of Daytona, having never driven one before,,and proceeded to best the other driver's times in the car. Talent is talent, and if a driver chooses to go where he can make the most money, it's fine.

Just like many movie and TV stars can be considered as nothing but very lucky waiters and waitresses, we shouldn't blame any driver that takes advantage of the opportunities afforded them. I don't think Danica is a great driver, but she helps them with their marketing efforts, so she helps run the business.

Maybe not fair, but that's life!

Posted by: naro914 May 7 2013, 08:03 PM

If 'being a woman' is the only reason Danica gets pub, why do then not now follow every move of Simona de Silvestro in Indy Car?

Or how come they didn't follow Sarah Fisher's every move? Heck, she even OWNED a team?

Why? Because Danica is more talented than both of them. I like Simona and Sarah...great girls, talented drivers. But, Danica was better. More marketable? Probably, but so what?

She's a good driver, has earned her seat, and that's that. I talked to a guy that works at Stewart Haas racing this past weekend. He said she is really working hard to be a better driver. Spending lots of time watching tape, testing, time with the crew, etc...something many drivers don't do...

Posted by: bcheney May 7 2013, 08:17 PM

Well said...

Posted by: carr914 May 7 2013, 08:46 PM

Now back to the Only Thing she is Good at - Posing for the Cameras!

Posted by: URY914 May 8 2013, 04:49 AM

She has a good agent.

Posted by: andys May 8 2013, 09:51 AM

For the results side, she ran with the big boys all race long at this past weekends Talledega race. Got caught up in a near the end of race pile up while running tenth. A better than "no talent" showing I'd say.

Watch Danica's speech at the National Press Club from last year. Well poised, confident, no lack of continuity, good eye contact with the audience, and articulated well. Her stage presence is a component of what makes her a sponsors dream. In the speech, she talks of her history and how the media attention developed, recognizes that not everyone is a fan, and that she's trying to be the best driver; not the best "girl" driver. In 2000, she finished 2nd at the Formula Ford Festival in England; the highest finish for an American in the history of the event.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkbB01FIJj4

Andys

Posted by: carr914 May 8 2013, 10:13 AM

That would be Incorrect - Josef Newgarden (Sarah Fisher's Driver) Won the FF Festival in the Kent Division in 2008

Posted by: andys May 8 2013, 11:33 AM

I looked it up: 2008 overall festival winner was a Brit, Wayne Boyd; Kent Division was scored separately. Either way, a great accomplishment for both Patrick and Newgarden.

Andys

Posted by: URY914 May 12 2013, 05:37 PM

Darlington NASCAR:

28. Danica Patrick Stewart-Haas Chevrolet + 5 laps

Posted by: carr914 May 12 2013, 08:14 PM

I never saw a TV Crew give more attention to someone that Qualified 40th and never ran higher than 26th

Posted by: Elliot Cannon May 13 2013, 09:32 AM

They give her attention to her for the same reason some resent her.

Posted by: URY914 May 13 2013, 09:57 AM

So they see she lacks talent too?

Posted by: Bullethead May 13 2013, 10:25 AM

The main reasons she has big sponsors, and why the big sponsors make sure she has plenty of attention: Media is easily manipulated because they want story conflict, tragedy, or public acrimony for ratings, which the unwashed provides by being even more easily manipulated. Whether entertainment or news, the end game is the same.

NASCAR loves that buzz, so is party to the charade. She gets paid for the constant exposure... certainly not because she's a gifted driver.

Hobbs, Diffey and Matchett were talking about how she'd be good for F1 while discussing Red Bull this past weekend. That she's the perfect size for F1, brings big money with her, attracts plenty of media attention... which is all true. But none of them made any comment regarding driving talent.

Posted by: URY914 May 13 2013, 01:33 PM

Because there isn't any to talk about.

Posted by: URY914 May 19 2013, 06:12 AM

Here is an example of NASCRAP bending the rules for her.....

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/danica-patrick-rule-nascar-rule-change-virtually-guarantee-050600209.html

COMMENTARY | Heading into this Saturday's All-Star Race at Charlotte, it's pretty clear that one person is the overwhelming favorite to receive the fan vote that puts the final driver into the big show from the Sprint Showdown. Her name is Danica Patrick, if you haven't guessed yet.


But there was one caveat that I had not thought of: Last year, only drivers on the lead lap at the end of the Showdown could be voted on to the big race.


Not so fast, NASCAR now says.


Despite having said earlier in the year that only a lead-lap car could be voted in, there's now a little flip-flopping going on. On Wednesday, the rules were clarified by NASCAR spokesman Kerry Tharp, who said a car only has to be in raceable condition to be voted on to the All-Star Race by fans.


Call me a conspiracy theorist if you like, but there is no way that this decision was made without Danica on the minds of NASCAR officials.

Posted by: URY914 Jul 29 2013, 07:12 AM

"Losers:

Danica Patrick — Patrick was supposed to have a bit of an edge with all her Indy 500 experience. Obviously, it didn’t translate to stock cars. She got lapped 36 laps into the race, and it was all downhill from there. A 30th-place finish at her favorite track has to be the low point of her tough rookie season. "

She moved up 3 positions from he 33rd starting position. Of course no one really watched the race in person as this picture shows. Attendance was reported to be somewhere around 80k.

Posted by: sean_v8_914 Jul 29 2013, 07:35 AM

does she drive a 914?
did she touch a 914?

Posted by: naro914 Jul 29 2013, 07:48 AM

URY, you seem to have this obsession with Danica.

First, I don't begrudge her for all the attention - that's the media. they are obsessed with her, no her fault. Heck, there are A LOT of people in this world with WAY less talent at what they do than Danica that get WAY more media attention for whatever reason (think Kardasians, Paris Hilton, JLo, etc).

Is she a top notch driver? Certainly not in Nascar - I honestly wish she stayed in IRL. Not a lot of drivers seem to be able to make the transition into Nascar. Other than a road coarse win, what has the heralded JPM done? Or multi time V8 Supercar Champion Marcus Ambrose?

Heck, even Dale Jr. - who obviously is on a team with the BEST equipment - can't win much.

OK, I'm just feeding the thread here. Some of you seem so obsessed with her. Honestly ...WHO CARES????
As Sean implied, this is a 914 forum. When she does something in a 914, then get back to us...

Posted by: URY914 Jul 29 2013, 08:07 AM

I'm not obsessed with her. I'm obsessed with how the media is obsessed with her and how they think the general public should be obsessed with her. Hey, I give her credit for make a hell of a lot of money and being a media whore. It pays very well. Good for her. I hope she don't get hurt.

So move this to the Sandbox if you wankers don't like it here or better yet don't open the thread.

Posted by: rhodyguy Jul 29 2013, 12:55 PM

paul, i'm obsessed with your obsession over the media (who turned her into the whore) obsession that the general public should be obsessed with her. she's a good sport. i think she'd rather just go to the transporter and not discuss the poor finishes week after week. this thread usually makes for good reading on mon or tues.

k

Posted by: zymurgist Jul 29 2013, 01:16 PM

Posted by: SLITS Jul 29 2013, 01:52 PM

It stinks too!

Posted by: URY914 Jul 29 2013, 01:57 PM

Here is a guy that understands it.........

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/brickyard-400-winner-ryan-newman-no-ride-2014-153000839.html

"Money, Not Talent or On-track Success, Has Become the Measuring Stick by Which Teams Choose Which Drivers to Keep"


"....Call me old-fashioned, but I want to have the best and most competitive 43 drivers on the track each week -- not just the drivers who have the most companies funding them."

Posted by: URY914 Aug 4 2013, 07:41 PM

35th today

Posted by: 396 Aug 5 2013, 07:19 AM

This tread is still going -

Posted by: GeorgeRud Aug 5 2013, 08:07 AM

That article is absolutely right on target. I feel sorry for Tony Stewart as he does have to make decisions as a team owner, and he realizes who is the more talented driver ( as well as a friend), but the bills have to be paid.

The paid rides are nothing new (remember Pablo Escobar in IMSA 935 turbos years ago as well as many others?), and will continue as long as racing is so expensive.

Posted by: andys Aug 5 2013, 09:32 AM

Yup, that's the reality....always was, always will be.

"Money, Not Talent or On-track Success, Has Become the Measuring Stick by Which Teams Choose Which Drivers to Keep"

"....Call me old-fashioned, but I want to have the best and most competitive 43 drivers on the track each week -- not just the drivers who have the most companies funding them."

See my above comment. Been that way ever since I can remember (There's no "has become"). People that bring money/sponsorship always find their way on the track, like it or not.

Andys

Posted by: URY914 Aug 5 2013, 11:18 AM

It'll probably run until the end of the season.

Posted by: Mark Henry Aug 5 2013, 01:31 PM

Yep... you can bitch all you like, but except for the top teer of drivers the rest of the field is there because they can afford it. Many of swinging dick can't drive worth shit, they basicly bought their ticket...don't hear ya bitching about them. DP is no different she can pay so she can play.

Posted by: URY914 Aug 10 2013, 09:05 PM

NASCAR Watkins Glen 2013 qualifying results: Ambrose smashes track-record, secures pole

35) Danica Patrick

Posted by: rfuerst911sc Aug 11 2013, 04:38 AM

35th......hahahahahahahahahaha I wonder what the excuse is this week ?

Posted by: Spoke Aug 11 2013, 08:41 AM

One name: Hiro

Hiroyuki "Hiro" Matsushita, born March 14, 1961, Kobe, Japan), is a former driver in the Champ Car series. He is the grandson of Konosuke Matsushita, founder of Matsushita Electric Industrial Co.. The family relationship has allowed him to receive financial backing from Panasonic throughout his racing career.

Matsushita earned the nickname "King Hiro" from Emerson Fittipaldi, who was complaining about Hiro's reluctance to cede track position when getting lapped by the leaders. The nickname came about as a result of the voice-activated microphone ("vox") Roger Penske's team was using. Emerson's epithet was said so quickly that the circuit cut off the first syllable of the first word he used. Fittipaldi, allegedly, had intended to say "Fucking Hiro!"

Posted by: URY914 Aug 11 2013, 08:21 PM

DP finished 20th at the Glen today. Steering that big ass car around a track like that must have been a job for the little Lady today. I'll give her credit for that.

Posted by: rhodyguy Aug 12 2013, 07:25 AM

credit? CREDIT!!!? it was a tough day for a number of top tier drivers.

Posted by: URY914 Aug 12 2013, 07:57 AM

Her finishing position was helped by the high drop out rate.

Posted by: URY914 Aug 19 2013, 04:51 AM

Michigan, 23rd after starting 28th.

Posted by: bcheney Aug 25 2013, 09:22 AM

26th at Bristol. What happened this week?

Posted by: rfuerst911sc Aug 25 2013, 04:27 PM

Got her period

Posted by: URY914 Aug 25 2013, 05:37 PM

That's not very nice.

Posted by: bcheney Aug 26 2013, 05:21 AM

Ya Rick that was low...and down the middle. Why don't you just say what's on your mind!

Posted by: billh1963 Aug 26 2013, 07:39 AM

At least that would be a possible excuse instead of the reality...no talent

Posted by: carr914 Aug 26 2013, 06:04 PM

Posted by: URY914 Aug 26 2013, 08:04 PM

When the doc says, "lay flat on your stomach" she has no problem.

Posted by: URY914 Aug 26 2013, 08:19 PM

Posted by: jgara962 Aug 26 2013, 11:28 PM

Unless she has a boner.

Posted by: URY914 Aug 27 2013, 04:44 AM

So back to the OP....after her other qualifing positions this year, do you really think the Daytona pole was all her driving or did NASCAR help her "earn" it?

Posted by: 6freak Aug 27 2013, 08:03 AM

we`ll see at the next Daytona event! if she`s not the top 3 then ..im sure that horse is in the stable waiting to run or it should be it was bad fast and when they find a car that kicks ass on a track most time thats a dedicated car ..i dont think it got wrecked ,but then again she does go through them quite fast some times two a week

GO KASEY GO

Posted by: worn Aug 27 2013, 09:09 AM

Not to pick on this particular post, but I don't think most of on the board have any idea about what it is like to be a good looking woman - and we are fuching jealous! And then add the idea that inside suppose a good looking woman is like us and wants to drive in the big leagues and they have a chip to play that will help get there. What would most people do? Would you rerally say:" oh I am above that sort of thing?" Well, I don't know personally, cause I haven't ever felt like I was a magnet for women's eyes, more's the pity. Still you would probably want to turn it off sometimes. Or if you couldn't you would probably find a use for it.

Posted by: carr914 Aug 27 2013, 09:11 AM

Happy Hour started Early Today

Posted by: 6freak Aug 27 2013, 03:27 PM

but I don't think most of on the board have any idea about what it is like to be a good looking woman -


i sure dont! Are you a good look n women? or just a real pretty boy

Posted by: carr914 Aug 27 2013, 06:16 PM

transgenderedracers.com

Posted by: 6freak Aug 28 2013, 08:16 AM

Hell i dont even make a good ugly one !

Posted by: URY914 Sep 2 2013, 04:44 AM

Atlanta 500.........she started 21st and she finished 21st.

Posted by: carr914 Sep 5 2013, 05:06 PM

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2013/09/04/a-winning-danica-patrick-is-nascars-biggest-hope-to-restart-growth/

Posted by: worn Sep 5 2013, 05:42 PM

As I said, we don't know what it is like but we are jealous of the ability to reel in the OPPOSITE sex.

Apparently this crowd is more jealous than I thought...

Posted by: r_towle Sep 5 2013, 06:58 PM

Put her alone on the track she does fine.
Put her in traffic.....


Forget it.

Posted by: Steve Sep 5 2013, 07:56 PM

She is pretty!! Kind of looks like Sandra Bullock.

Posted by: URY914 Sep 5 2013, 08:08 PM

Talk about a fluff piece......

Posted by: URY914 Sep 8 2013, 08:00 AM

Last night she startd 35th and fininshed in 30th.

She didn't make The Chase.

Posted by: rhodyguy Sep 8 2013, 08:01 AM

not many did.

Posted by: carr914 Sep 9 2013, 05:33 AM

Dang - she's been chasing the rest of the Field all year!

Posted by: bulitt Sep 9 2013, 05:45 AM

Jeez Ury we get it, lighten up, its a have fun car forum

Posted by: URY914 Sep 9 2013, 06:04 AM

Hey this is fun!

Posted by: billh1963 Sep 9 2013, 01:23 PM

Haters aside, by some measures, Patrick has raced very well. Her average start position this season has been 31; her average finish 26–that 5-position gain is the best in the sport. She won in 2008 at the Indy Japan 300, and she is only one of 13 drivers, male or female, to lead both the Indy 500 and Daytona 500. “I feel like I need to win to be a success in Nascar, and I do believe eventually that will happen,” says Patrick. “The biggest pressures are my own expectation levels and wanting to do well for my team.”

If she is such a success why will she be known as one of the most overpaid/underperforming drivers in history......

They don't give the details of how those lead laps were obtained....

Posted by: andys Sep 9 2013, 03:38 PM

The facts are available, but to summerize, half of her $12.9M earnings are from endorsements ($6.4M) according to Forbes. She earns about half the winnings/salary of what he boss (Tony Stewart $12.7M) earns (Forbes). Dale jr. makes $13M in endorsements alone. Her "under achievements" are on par with the majority of rookies entering their first year in cup, which include some big names. Let's see how she does in her sophmore year.

I watched both the 2005 Indy 500, and the 2013 Daytona 500. Her laps lead at the Indy race were legit, late in the race laps and was in the hunt for a win. She lead one lap at Daytona; she was running up front the entire race.

Andys

Posted by: carr914 Sep 9 2013, 05:09 PM

She may be earning $12.9 Mil, but you should also include the amount of $Mil that GoDaddy has to pay Tony Stewart to put her in a car. Gotta be $20Mil Plus!

Posted by: PRS914-6 Sep 9 2013, 05:18 PM

I don't keep up with this thread (or car racing) but couldn't help to notice she was on Chopped the other night. It's a tough competition cooking show that requires imagination and skill and it's fun to watch. She was on a celebrity version and she won $10k for her charity. Her food looked delicious. Even if she can't drive, the girl can cook!....more important to us older guys.

Posted by: URY914 Sep 9 2013, 05:27 PM

All the more reason for her to get out of the racecar and back in the kitchen!!!

Posted by: carr914 Sep 9 2013, 05:35 PM

But her Food was probably Last arriving to the Judge's Table! Is that Cooking Contest rigged too?

Posted by: URY914 Sep 16 2013, 04:50 AM

Chicago, finished 20th after starting 23rd.

Posted by: carr914 Sep 16 2013, 04:53 AM

See, Paul is just doing us a favor with his Public Announcement with Danica's Awesome Performance in case the Danica Fox Network didn't already inform you.

Thanks Paul!

Posted by: URY914 Sep 16 2013, 05:48 AM

You're welcome T.C.
Just trying to help out those that truly care about her.

I'm surprised NASCRAP didn't allow her in the chase too. I mean if they're giving out free passes you would think they would give one to the person that the entire series revolves around.

Posted by: Racer Chris Sep 16 2013, 07:15 AM

I enjoyed watching that show.
Danica did very well.
Winning on Chopped isn't easy, and the show isn't rigged.
She concentrated on the basics.
Her dishes were successful because she finished them on time, applied good cooking/seasoning principles and her plating was attractive.
I'd eat her (food) anytime.

Posted by: URY914 Sep 16 2013, 02:25 PM

I just looked this up;

2013 Season:
27 races run
0 wins
1 pole
0 top 5 finishes
1 top 10 finish
25.6 average finish position
30.2 average qualifing position
8th best finish
496 race points
1 bonus point (for the pole I guess)
0 penalty points
497 total

$2,799,135 total winnings

$2.8 million for finishing in 25th place.

Posted by: billh1963 Sep 16 2013, 06:23 PM

Sounds like HANS collar welfare!

Posted by: rhodyguy Sep 17 2013, 07:35 AM

how much did 26th place make? or 24th for that matter. ever notice how derrick cope only runs in races on a limited basis? if he starts the race and finishes as a back marker it's still a payday.

k

Posted by: ThePaintedMan Sep 17 2013, 07:52 AM

NASCAR is a victim of their own stupid mistakes. They turned it into an over-commercialized debacle over the last decade, and now they act surprised when a bunch of guys want to "start and park" but still collect a hefty paycheck.

What's even more ludicrous is "The Chase." It was only a matter of time before team orders came into play like at Richmond where one teammate spins or causes some kind of interruption so that the other teammate can benefit. When you structure your rules the way they do, why wouldn't someone take advantage of it? It's just like F1, which I find equally as obnoxious and unimaginative, but I at least understand the logic behind team orders.

As far as Danica is concerned, if her average finish is 25th, that's still better than 40% of the rest of the field, and in her first season. So I really don't understand what those statistics are supposed to suggest. Is she overhyped? Yes (isn't everyone in NASCAR to some extent). Does she have talent though? Yes. Does she whine too much? Yes - then again, we are all a bunch of grown men who are spending entirely too much time participating in a thread which is basically whining about the fact that Danica whines too much or makes too much money.

Posted by: DBCooper Sep 17 2013, 07:53 AM

Wow, what a thread. I keep expecting it to slowly fade away, but it keeps coming back to the top. Lovers or haters, there's a whole lot of general Danica fixation around here. You might want to get that looked at.

Posted by: FourBlades Sep 17 2013, 08:33 AM

I nominate this for classic thread status!

Lots of entertainment value here.

John

Posted by: URY914 Sep 22 2013, 04:13 PM

2013 Sylvania 300

Sunday, September 22, 2013 at New Hampshire Motor Speedway, Loudon, NH

She started 21st and finished 27th.

Posted by: carr914 Sep 29 2013, 04:53 AM

Waaaaa! I'm having such a bad year! You guys can't give me a good car for races, my new boyfriend is a Cowboy, I don't have any Boobs and the Guys on 914World keep making fun of me - saying I can't drive and something about having a Member!

Posted by: Steve Sep 29 2013, 09:16 AM

That's not very nice. She can always add the boobs later when switching professions and becoming a stripper. Besides big boobs would weigh the car down and make it harder to get in and out, but it might make GoDaddy sales go up.

Posted by: URY914 Sep 29 2013, 05:20 PM

Dover today finished 29th.

Posted by: billh1963 Sep 29 2013, 07:29 PM

At least she is consistent

Posted by: rhodyguy Sep 30 2013, 07:42 AM

then there's those that finished behind behind her..."what the hell is wrong with you? can't you even finish ahead of a tiny woman?".

Posted by: carr914 Sep 30 2013, 08:22 AM

I think her Boyfriend likes to Finish her from behind!

Posted by: rhodyguy Sep 30 2013, 08:29 AM

tc, your reply is worthless without pictures.

Posted by: billh1963 Sep 30 2013, 01:16 PM

http://athlonsports.com/nascar/ranking-best-teams-nascar-2013

4. Stewart-Hass Racing

Most teams are spending the winter working on testing for 2013. Stewart-Haas Racing is busy working overtime in another department: building race cars. Not only does it need a third set for Danica Patrick’s full-time entry in the No. 10, but it’s also working on a fourth for when she’s done crashing that fleet. OK, so it may not be that bad, but it is the type of unrated content GoDaddy didn’t want released but becomes public knowledge weekly beginning with this year’s Daytona 500.

You know it’s a bad sign when people are predicting that a “best-case scenario” is simply finishing the race in one piece, right? Patrick’s push to the front will be hot and heavy, though, as the GoDaddy sponsorship will be up for renewal at season’s end.

Posted by: URY914 Sep 30 2013, 02:10 PM

So the GoDaddy deal was only for one year?

Posted by: URY914 Oct 1 2013, 08:29 PM

Posted by: carr914 Oct 1 2013, 08:35 PM

Posted by: URY914 Oct 3 2013, 06:17 PM

She cleans up well


http://www.vevo.com/watch/colt-ford/drivin-around-song/QMJW51300004?syndicationid=bb8a16ab-1279-4f17-969b-1dba5eb60eda&shortlink=6fb6o7&country=US

Posted by: carr914 Oct 6 2013, 08:52 PM

Dead Last - 43rd Place. Crashes out on the 1st Lap

Daytona seems like 10 Years ago, huh?

Posted by: URY914 Oct 7 2013, 06:14 AM

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/danica-patrick-day-ended-without-completing-half-lap-234932077--nascar.html

Some of the comments are classic.

Posted by: rhodyguy Oct 7 2013, 06:18 AM

too early in the am. at first glance i read the coke ad as a 'six pack of poop". damn tire manufacturers.

Posted by: billh1963 Oct 7 2013, 07:11 AM

One of the posters got it right....

Danica Patrick can't begin to relate to any Formula 1 driver. Meanwhile, over in Indycar, Simona de Silvestro had a podium finish this weekend, with very little media attention. I'm sure this has NOTHING to do with the fact that she's said she'd never pose in a bikini, while Danica says she wouldn't rule out Playboy. The great thing here is that the pink car we read so much about during the week was out there for such a long time "raising awareness" of breast cancer.

She said, "And I had enough momentum to go to the middle because I got a run on the car in front of me..." No Danica, you didn't have a run. You went into the corner so hot that you got sideways. The reason you got a run was that everyone around you knew how much to slow down to make the corner without losing control. Everyone but you... Until you learn that it's your fault, you will never improve as a driver. You blame everything around you, but never what was controlling the brake, gas, and steering wheel.

Posted by: carr914 Oct 8 2013, 08:10 AM

Whoever did this piece is a worse reporter than Danica is a Driver

Danica Patrick - Champion Race Car Driver !

http://www.makers.com/danica-patrick?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000474



I did like the Line, "the 1st time I drove a Go-Kart, I went head-on into a Concrete Building!

Posted by: URY914 Oct 10 2013, 07:51 PM

Posted by: URY914 Oct 14 2013, 06:53 AM

BTW, 20th Saturday night. Just in case you missed it.

Posted by: carr914 Oct 14 2013, 11:32 AM

You know, everyone says she is a Sponsors Dream (and she does get a Lot of publicity), but

Why has she burned through so many Sponsors?;

GoDaddy
AirTran (AirTranica)
Motorola
Argent
Tissot
Boost Mobile
Peak
XM Radio
Pioneer
Meijer

Posted by: carr914 Oct 14 2013, 09:09 PM

Posted by: URY914 Oct 20 2013, 06:08 PM

Talladega:

33. Danica Patrick

With only four races to go, NASCAR could fix a race so she could still win one.

Posted by: Spoke Oct 20 2013, 08:03 PM

The race was started with the words:

"Danica and gentlemen, start your engines"

Posted by: URY914 Oct 21 2013, 06:09 AM

And it finished with ".....where's Danica???"

Posted by: andys Oct 21 2013, 09:39 AM

Until the last pit stop, she was running 7th. A good finish ruined by a pit road speed violation.

Andys

Posted by: URY914 Oct 28 2013, 09:25 AM

Yesterday she broke into the top 20!

17. Danica Patrick , Chevrolet

Posted by: billh1963 Oct 28 2013, 10:48 AM

She's on a roll!

Posted by: andys Oct 28 2013, 10:59 AM

Actually, a very decent run. Started 40th (I think) on one of the toughest tracks in the series, ran as high as 9th, finished just ahead of Kurt Bush.

Andys

Posted by: rhodyguy Oct 28 2013, 12:00 PM

she finished ahead of a lot of other drivers. more than half the field on what be one of the more exhaustive tracks to race on. but she's still cute and rich.

Posted by: veltror Oct 28 2013, 06:07 PM

What is this bloody obsession with this gooseberry puddin?

Posted by: SLITS Oct 28 2013, 07:47 PM

Soccer, Baseball & Football are boring as hell. What else is left?

Posted by: rhodyguy Oct 28 2013, 08:06 PM

we don't' have a kate. or page 3 girls.

Posted by: bcheney Oct 28 2013, 10:17 PM

Well said...

Posted by: URY914 Oct 29 2013, 06:03 AM

Now there is a new name for her.

Posted by: carr914 Nov 3 2013, 07:10 PM

Baby Boo-Boo finishes 25th Texas

The Good News - Ryan Newman finishes Ninth, so go to your local Outback Steakhouse Monday & ask for a Free Bloomin Onion (Free everytime he finishes in the Top 10)

Posted by: bcheney Nov 3 2013, 09:06 PM

Attached image(s)

Posted by: rhodyguy Nov 4 2013, 11:06 AM

she's trying to see her first nascar win.

Posted by: URY914 Nov 4 2013, 12:19 PM

She needs to keep looking.

Posted by: rfuerst911sc Nov 4 2013, 04:51 PM

May need binoculars.......or a telescope !

Posted by: URY914 Nov 4 2013, 06:55 PM

25th yesterday...............

Posted by: carr914 Nov 4 2013, 06:57 PM

Posted by: carr914 Nov 11 2013, 07:25 AM

Phoenix Results - 33rd out of 43, 12 Laps Down! She still made $73,000 in Prize Money!

Posted by: URY914 Nov 11 2013, 08:15 AM

Season is almost over. Where is that driver that took the pole at Daytona?

Posted by: rhodyguy Nov 11 2013, 08:49 AM

leaving to go to the bank to cash her $73k check. no doubt she has ex-spousal support obligations.

Posted by: URY914 Nov 11 2013, 10:09 AM

There are a few clips of her on YouTube when she was on the Leno show recently.
Her arms are HUGE!

Posted by: bulitt Nov 18 2013, 09:49 AM

Posted by: URY914 Nov 18 2013, 10:04 AM

Finished 20th yeasterday and 27th in the points.

Posted by: andys Nov 18 2013, 10:21 AM

Ran as high as 12th. Finished behind Mark Martin, and just ahead of Kurt Bush and boyfriend Ricky.

Andys

Posted by: URY914 Nov 18 2013, 10:48 AM

I hear she has several F1 test drives scheduled during the off season. So look for that anouncement coming soon.

Posted by: URY914 Nov 19 2013, 06:38 PM

Another marshmallow piece ........

"Trying to be great. No other modern American athlete's attempt to be great has been met with such wide reactions. Patrick is an American success story, overcoming long odds in a man's world to inspire young girls to believe that they can become whatever they want. Or she's a shameless opportunist, with little success to show for all the endless, breathless hype. The truth, as is often the case, lies somewhere in between."


http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/64023780/

Posted by: jgara962 Nov 19 2013, 08:45 PM

Where's the resrtictor plate that took the pole at Daytona?

Posted by: billh1963 Nov 22 2013, 05:51 PM

http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/danica-patrick-rookie-season-provided-more-fodder-who-those-who-think-she-isn%2527t-sprint-cup-read-111913#!ouG0q

Danica Patrick isn’t thrilled with her rookie year. Don’t be fooled. By all measures that really count with Danica, it was a great year.

She dominated the NASCAR conversation early, especially when news broke that she was rubbing fenders with Ricky Stenhouse Jr. She won the celebrity competition on “Chopped.” And she landed a co-host gig with Trace Adkins on the upcoming American Country Awards.

Not bad for someone who can’t remember which is the accelerator and which is the brake.

Okay, that’s a bit harsh. Patrick proved she can drive a stock car better driver than 99.9 percent of Earth’s population. But her first full season in Sprint Cup proved she really has little business racing against the other 0.1 percent, which, sadly for her, comprises the weekly starting field.

She finished 27th in point standings and had one more top-10 finish than Lindsay Lohan. Patrick’s marketing appeal allows her be held to a lower standard, but come on. She’s starting to make Anna Kournikova look like Venus Williams.

Fellow drivers know what’s good for Danica is good for NASCAR, so nobody was critical this season.

Kyle Petty was a voice of truth crying in the wilderness in June when he called her a “marketing machine” and said, “Danica has been the perfect example of somebody who can qualify better than what she runs. She can go fast, but she can’t race.”

He was immediately labeled a Neanderthal, of course. I don’t know about that sexist pig Petty, but I’m willing to never again criticize Danica’s driving skills if her boosters would do one thing: Admit it’s all a charade.

Nobody can blame Patrick for capitalizing on her looks. I don’t even blame NASCAR for latching on to her. An attractive woman circles around good ol' boys is a great marketing hook.

But when all the lipstick is wiped away the whole point is to win races, right?

The Danica Defense League insists she’s more than just another pretty driver in a bikini. Yes, she won the Daytona 500 pole and finished eighth. Patrick had only three more top-15 finishes in the next 35 races, none since July. Her average finish was 25.3. Stewart finished 42 points behind her in the final standings, and had 15 fewer starts.

“We just didn’t’ keep getting a lot better,” Patrick said. “We got better, but there were challenges along the way.”

She mentioned mechanical issues, bad luck and the ever-popular “learning curve” that young drivers have to go through. But a lot of teams can bemoan bad luck, mechanical woes and a dog eating their spare tire. As for that nasty NASCAR learning curve, let’s see how some other big names handled it.

Jimmie Johnson had eight races in the Busch series (now Nationwide) before moving up to the big circuit. He had three wins and 21 top-10s in his rookie season. He was 26.

Jeff Gordon raced two years in the Busch series. In his first Winston Cup year, he had seven top fives and 11 top-10s. He was 21.

Kyle Busch spent two years in Nationwide. In his rookie Sprint Cup year, he had nine top-fives and 11 top 10s. He was 21.

Joey Logano spent 15 minutes in Nationwide. He had three top fives and seven top 10s. He was 19.

Danica had 58 Nationwide races before this season, going a tidy 0 for 58. If you add Sprint, Nationwide and Indy races, she is now 1 for 221 (that winning coming in Japan).

That’s a batting average of .0045. Why didn’t Stewart-Haas racing just go out and hire Mario Mendoza to drive the No. 10 car?

“I get frustrated,” Patrick said. “I know what I can do and want to do it.”

She’d better get busy. The learning-curve excuse has maybe two more years of shelf life. She’s also 31, she'll have to worry about losing curves off the track, too.

Expect next season to be like the one that just ended. Patrick will be a big story heading into Daytona, where NASCAR will plant the story that she’s dating Tiger Woods. She might finish the year with two top 10s, which could be enough to end Dale Earnhardt Jr.’s 11-year reign as NASCAR most popular driver.

Along the way, Patrick will go on celebrity “Celebrity Jeopardy.” She’ll throw out the first pitch at the Dodgers season opener. That will be a few days after she replaces Ellen DeGeneres as the host of the 86th annual Academy Awards.

It’s good to be Danica. Just imagine how big she’d be if she could actually drive

Posted by: carr914 Dec 7 2013, 09:36 PM

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/jay-mohr-got-icy-glare-danica-patrick-joke-180017991--nascar.html

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Dec 8 2013, 01:13 AM

The goal isn't to win races. The goal is to make profits.

Posted by: Tom Dec 8 2013, 05:29 PM

I would be happy to score 27 th out of 78 drivers that Nascar kept stats on. Yes, some only drove in one or very few races. Maybe because they are just not up to the desires of the team owners. Seems to still be a lot of boys club prejudice against females in the mostly male dominated auto sports.
Comparing the rookie year of a 6 time champion to the rookie year of someone who had only a fair year is kind of questionable. Actually, comparing Jimmy Johnson to anyone except maybe Richard Petty is questionable. LOL!!
Nascar has gone so far down hill that I actually rarely watch it anymore and I used to watch every race I could. Everyone pushes the rules as far as they possibly can, and there are so many of them. Some very well established teams probably get away with a lot more than the little guys, no news there, right? It has turned into a money making enterprise and the managers of the governing body make a lot of decisions based on pure profits! In my opinion, this has ruined the sport. If you are one of the drivers for a megabuck team, you are somewhat in the running, if not, you are an also ran.
Tom

Posted by: ablesnead Dec 8 2013, 06:18 PM

The woods brothers a couple of years ago...It can happen !

Posted by: carr914 Dec 8 2013, 06:21 PM

Uh, Danica was Not Rookie of the Year!

Posted by: Tom Dec 8 2013, 07:24 PM

Uh, who called her the rookie of the year?
Tom

Posted by: URY914 Feb 10 2014, 01:13 PM

The thread that just won't die.



The King had a few words about Queen Danica.....

"If she'd have been a male, nobody would ever know if she'd showed up at a race track," Petty said according to Wheels.ca. "This is a female deal that's driving her. There's nothing wrong with that, because that's good PR for me. More fans come out, people are more interested in it. She has helped to draw attention to the sport, which helps everybody in the sport."

http://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2014/2/10/5396998/nascar-richard-petty-danica-patrick-win-sprint-cup-race

Posted by: Spoke Feb 10 2014, 01:32 PM

But the King did say he thought she could win a race....if everybody stayed home.

Posted by: veltror Feb 10 2014, 06:22 PM

Still think that there is a bloody obsession with this gooseberry puddin

Posted by: URY914 Feb 16 2014, 05:29 PM

Ok, this tread is a year old. She didn't make the Daytona pole this year. I mean she didn't qualify on the pole. It remains to be seen if she ends up working the pole.

http://motorsportstalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/16/danica-patrick-will-not-repeat-as-daytona-500-pole-sitter/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs

It seems NASCAR rigged the pole winner again this year so they could get the maximum about of press out of it.

For all you wankers that want this thread to end, I won't post on it again unless she wins the race next Sunday.

Posted by: bulitt Feb 18 2014, 11:44 AM

Does Nascar hand out numbered plates to each car, or do they draw them out of a hat?
Do they take the plates back after qualifying then hand them out again before every practice, race?

Posted by: URY914 Feb 18 2014, 07:29 PM

It depends on who they want to win the pole. That driver gets a "special" one.

Posted by: billh1963 Mar 3 2014, 09:52 AM

http://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2014/3/3/5465466/2014-nascar-phoenix-recap-results-kevin-harvick-danica-patrick-justin-allgaier-crash

It didn't matter the team. It didn't matter the circumstances. And it certainly didn't matter who was behind him. All that mattered to Kevin Harvick Sunday was the outcome. That outcome was a dominant victory.

Just as important as the result, however, was the process.

The win was Harvick's first with Stewart-Haas Racing having joined the organization this season following a lengthy divorce from Richard Childress where he had been for the previous 13 years.

Harvick announced in November 2012 he was leaving RCR to join the team co-owned by good friend Tony Stewart, which made his departure prolonged and sometimes awkward.

The decision to exit RCR was multilayered.

Harvick clearly had grown frustrated with what he perceived to be the preferential treatment Richard Childress afforded his grandsons, Austin and Ty Dillon. That frustration was most evident last October following an incident between Harvick and Ty during a Truck Series race at Martinsville where Harvick referenced silver spoons as the catalyst for his leaving.

What the assertions of nepotism leveled did was mask a remarkable 2013 season Harvick produced. He would win four races, and for the third time in four years finished third in points. All the while RCR struggled to find the same level of performance with its other teams, which ultimately underlines the main reason Harvick left.

More than anything Harvick yearns to win a Sprint Cup championship. Yet RCR hadn't claimed a premiere series title since 1994 with Dale Earnhardt, and as the focus shifted to the Dillon brothers that possibility seemed increasingly unlikely.

Whereas SHR won the championship three years ago, and with a close-knit relationship with Hendrick Motorsports, which supplies cars, engines and technical data to SHR, concerns about the quality of equipment would never be in doubt.

At Harvick's request SHR recruited and ultimately signed Rodney Childers to lead the No. 4 team. The pairing of a superstar driver with a mastermind crew chief created high hopes, but also questions whether those expectations could ever be adequately fulfilled.

"There's been a lot of skepticism as we've gone through the offseason," Harvick said. "Honestly you hear it, I paid attention to it during the offseason obviously, but as we've gone through the first few weeks, you try to put yourself in your own little world."

he payoff came to fruition sooner than most thought.

Throughout the weekend the No. 4 Chevrolet was pegged as the car to beat. The speed Harvick demonstrated in practice drew the attention of Dale Earnhardt Jr. and Brad Keselowski, each of whom said it was Harvick's race to lose.

As predicted, Harvick rolled.

On the day he led 224 of 312 laps, withstood several late-race restarts, and then fended off Earnhardt, still riding a wave of momentum from his Daytona 500 triumph the week before. The win was a Phoenix-best fifth for Harvick and his third in four races.

"Just a huge credit to the team really, the organization and everybody who has been a part of this process as we've gone through the winter and over the last couple months of last year," Harvick said. "... I'm just the lucky guy that gets to drive the car around the racetrack when they're dialed in like they were today. Luckily we were able to put it all together."

Although it may have a new beginning with a new team, for Harvick it was an all too familiar ending.

****

As Harvick celebrated his 24th career victory his SHR teammate fell on the opposite side of the emotional spectrum.

For the second week in a row Danica Patrick was a victim of an accident she did not create when the she made contact with the spinning car of Justin Allgaier. The damage while not crippling was pronounced and would later puncture one of Patrick's tires, inducing her into another spin.

"Just sad. I'm so sorry, God. All we have for luck is bad. God."-Danica Patrick

Patrick has now crashed three times in two races -- albeit two not of her own doing. More so, her encounter with Allgaier in the garage post-race it makes one wonder if she is feeling the pressure to raise her performance level.

By any gauge Patrick's rookie year was disappointing where -- with the exception of the Daytona 500 -- she was largely uncompetitive. While no one is expecting a breakout 2014, there was hope with more experience Patrick could escape her struggles of a year ago.

Thus far the early returns suggest not.

At Daytona the magic she had last year during Speedweeks was absent. A rule requiring her and Stewart to start at the rear of the field in both the Budweiser Duel and Daytona 500 following an unapproved engine change left Patrick upset.

Frequently, she bemoaned her situation, criticized the fairness and openly questioned why she should even bother competing in her qualifying race. This outlook was in stark contrast to Stewart. The owner/driver was unmoved about NASCAR's judgment, understanding that because of the draft and fluidness of racing at Daytona, it made little difference where he lined.

Not much changed at Phoenix, where Patrick lagged throughout the weekend. In qualifying she posted just the 33rd-fastest time, and in Sunday's race her average running position was 30th.

Patrick also got swept up in an accident that she neither started nor could have easily avoided.

"Just sad," she radioed to her crew following her second spin. "I'm so sorry, God. All we have for luck is bad. God."

However, had she been running better at the time and not in the back where trouble lurks and inexperience reigns, her day would have probably ended differently. Patrick, instead, was 25th and a lap down when the initial contact with Allgaier ensued.

The underlying issue is that this is Patrick's fifth year of running stock cars and her second full season in Cup. Not to mention, she drives for one of the sport's premiere organizations with championship-caliber equipment at her disposal. Accentuated by the fact Harvick was in Victory Lane celebrating his first win with his new team in just his second race.

Which means, while Patrick's aggravation is understandable to some degree, the excuses of why she's not improved are starting to ring hollow.

Posted by: 396 Mar 3 2014, 10:12 AM

When will this tread end?

Posted by: ablesnead Mar 3 2014, 04:39 PM

why should it...it someone is interested enough to write a response..the thread serves a purpose ...even apparently for you

Posted by: 396 Mar 3 2014, 05:19 PM

Come to think of it...you are correct. I guess I should simply 'bump' other postings just for the heck of it with out adding any real 914 real value.

Posted by: FlatIV Mar 3 2014, 05:31 PM

This is just my opinion......... If you don't want to see this train wreck don't watch....

Posted by: 396 Mar 3 2014, 07:16 PM

Your correct. That's why I don't venture into the sand box section.

Posted by: URY914 Aug 5 2014, 06:19 PM

http://www.motorsport.com/nascar-cup/news/danica-patrick-comes-under-fire-after-crash

Posted by: URY914 Aug 5 2014, 06:25 PM

http://www.motorsport.com/nascar-cup/news/needs-improvement-six-nascar-cup-drivers-who-must-turn-it-around

Posted by: rhodyguy Aug 5 2014, 06:53 PM

well…a tire going down, the driver pushing it and the hitting the wall business is a new one.

Posted by: bcheney Aug 5 2014, 09:19 PM

So much negativity about Danica...get over it... She probably isn't leaving any time soon...and she might just help Nascar bridge themselves to greener pastures...unless of course Jr. Wins 6 more races this year and becomes Cup champion...then all the fans will come back and fill the stands at every race in 2015 and dozens of new sponsors will stand in line to fund more teams long into the future.

Posted by: billh1963 Aug 6 2014, 06:01 AM

Danica has faded from view....just like Tiger Woods is fading from the golf limelight. In a couple more years people will ask, "Danica, who?"

Posted by: carr914 Aug 6 2014, 06:33 AM

Danican't

Posted by: SLITS Aug 6 2014, 11:07 AM

This is better than watching WWE.

Posted by: 396 Aug 6 2014, 11:16 AM

Free bump

Posted by: URY914 Aug 6 2014, 11:20 AM

Brian loves Danica.

Posted by: ThePaintedMan Aug 6 2014, 12:05 PM

Yup, she ain't leavin... but neither is Paul Menard, Stenhouse or probably a number of other drivers who haven't won a race yet, or may never. Yet no one bitches about them. The fact is, though she may not be one of the legendary drivers who you'll always remember, she's still one of the 43 at the top of the class, whether you personally like it or not. And makes a lot more money than any of us.

Posted by: rhodyguy Aug 6 2014, 01:41 PM

correction. my guess is more than ALL of us. combined!

Posted by: URY914 Mar 13 2015, 10:03 PM

Submitted without comment........

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Mar 13 2015, 10:32 PM

Ya but we know what you're thinking.

Posted by: jgara962 Mar 13 2015, 10:34 PM

Where she belongs.

There. I said it.

Posted by: messix Mar 14 2015, 01:47 PM

hell if she cooks she a hell of alot better than some of girls/women out there now.

Posted by: jgara962 Mar 14 2015, 02:15 PM

It's pretty hard to screw up scrambled eggs.

Although I've seen it done.

At my house.

Not by me of course.

Posted by: billh1963 Apr 29 2015, 11:07 AM

Train wreck finally ending?

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/report--godaddy-dropping-danica-patrick-s-car-sponsorship-134649273.html

Posted by: URY914 Apr 30 2015, 06:46 PM

I think we saw this coming months ago but no one wanted to listen.

Posted by: andys Apr 30 2015, 07:46 PM

The rumor of Go Daddy pulling out of NASCAR was floating around the NASCAR garages for quite some time, and was not a surprise.

Posted by: bcheney Apr 30 2015, 09:10 PM

16th in points doesn't sound too bad. I'm sure a new sponsor will step up and get a nice ROI...just like GO DADDY has...

Posted by: URY914 May 1 2015, 07:40 AM

She'll probably pick up a cell phone company for a sponsor. Those guys will hire anybody.....

Posted by: Elliot Cannon May 1 2015, 09:40 PM

Word is she is getting an Formula I ride.

Posted by: billh1963 May 2 2015, 04:44 AM

Good grief. If that's true whoever is bringing her on has probably waited too long. I think her "novelty" has worn thin.

Posted by: carr914 May 2 2015, 05:44 AM

NEVER going to happen!

Posted by: carr914 May 2 2015, 05:45 AM

Viagra, for all the Manica nut-swingers

Posted by: warpig May 2 2015, 11:17 AM

"The company would still like to sign Patrick to a personal services contract"
I don't know, she is still pretty hot But those arms,,,,they scare me.

Posted by: carr914 May 3 2015, 05:31 AM

Arms, what about the Package?

Posted by: SKL1 May 4 2015, 08:11 PM

At my son's Formula Enterprise race this weekend at Blackhawk Farms in Rockton Ill and we pitted across from a FA (formula Atlantic) and it was her car from Rahal's team. They were at the track to see the car when she was testing it many years ago and said she was a royal b*tch to her crew etc while testing... they sure didn't buy the car just because she had raced it.

Few years back when she was racing for Rahal in that car at RA, my son got a picture with her and she came up to his waist!

I have a feeling Stennhouse Jr. is using her for his gain- don't think they'd mention him very often for any other reason.

If Haas even thought of giving her a chance at a F1 seat I'd lose ALL respect for that team!

Posted by: URY914 May 6 2015, 01:16 PM

You need two things in F1: money and talent. Now she doesn't have either one.

Go make me a sandmitch!

Posted by: mgp4591 May 6 2015, 05:05 PM

Formula One is a whole 'nuther ball game. You see drivers from there go to NASCAR, not the other way around for a reason- Montoya couldn't produce except in small doses - he was a bitch to deal with and a little too aggressive with very expensive machinery. The truly talented ex F1 drivers end up in GT or DTM where the are still light years ahead of anything offered up in stock car racing. Kinda like other analogies we've all heard- being an ex F1 driver in a stock car is fun... until your friends see you with one!

Posted by: Elliot Cannon May 6 2015, 06:01 PM

Look for Mercedes to make announcement soon.

Posted by: GeorgeRud May 6 2015, 07:07 PM

With enough money, even the talent can be overlooked in F1 (or just about any racing series). Just the way life is - the bills have to be paid one way or the other.

Posted by: carr914 May 6 2015, 08:44 PM

F-1 is about to become irrevalent - Costs, Lower teams leaving (including the threat from Red Bull & Toro Rosso) Engineering taking over Driving, Going to Foreign Markets that have No Fans, alienating what True Fans it has instead of the All-Mighty Right Now Money campaign leaves it going south. In the End, Danica will be a name focused on , but never chosen. She belongs in ChumpCar

Posted by: URY914 Sep 13 2017, 04:04 AM

https://sports.yahoo.com/danica-patrick-leaving-stewart-haas-racing-end-year-200340265.html

Posted by: GeorgeRud Sep 13 2017, 06:48 AM

I figure it may be time for her to retire as she's not bringing big sponsor bucks with her anymore. If you check websites for her net worth, you'll see she's done fine for herself however!

Posted by: toolguy Sep 13 2017, 09:44 AM

Article in today's sports page, She's out and announced it on her facebook page.. No sponsor for next year

Posted by: SKL1 Sep 13 2017, 01:55 PM

It was a race to see who would be out first, Danica or Marco... guess she "won" as her daddy didn't run the team.

Posted by: mepstein Feb 19 2018, 08:38 AM

"Patrick's final NASCAR race at the Daytona 500 captured her career to perfection. She had photojournalists embedded with her, a hunky celebrity NFL QB boyfriend by her side, social media buzzing — and a crumpled Chevy towed to the garage that put a premature end to her race."

yahoo sports

Posted by: Drums66 Feb 19 2018, 11:32 AM

.......Danica takes Aaron!

Posted by: GeorgeRud Feb 19 2018, 04:44 PM

Well, at least she had a career in Racing, made her money, and is still a celebrity that can get endorsement money. At least she didn’t cause this accident (but didn’t manage to avoid it either). We’ll see how she does at Indy.

Posted by: URY914 May 27 2018, 11:33 AM

She just WON the INDY 500!!!

No wait, she spun.

Posted by: Larmo63 May 27 2018, 12:13 PM

She's pretty, she can drive a race car fairly well, and she's a woman.

That's about it.

Posted by: rhodyguy May 27 2018, 08:52 PM

+ her own money. Plenty of it.

Posted by: Mark Henry May 28 2018, 10:40 AM

Many great male drivers never won a race

A win in japan, 3rd at Indy, a bunch of top tens and $60mil in the bank. Was there hype because she was a woman, sure and she took advantage of it, good on her. Wouldn't have even been a comment if she had been a man.

You can be a hater, but I'd call that a successful career in racing.

Posted by: rhodyguy May 28 2018, 10:49 AM

$60M!? ZOIKS! Good for her.

Posted by: Mark Henry May 28 2018, 10:53 AM

That's a internet search guesstimate.
But yep... that would buy my two shits of what haters think.

Posted by: rhodyguy May 28 2018, 10:59 AM

her teeshirt should read 'i have millions of dollars. Go back to your day job' or 'who cares what you assholes think? I'M RICH!'

Posted by: URY914 May 28 2018, 03:28 PM

Posted by: URY914 May 28 2018, 03:45 PM

She did bring a change to racing. It used to be that drivers got paid for winning the race, she got paid for starting the race.

Posted by: GeorgeRud May 28 2018, 03:52 PM

I’d agree, she did OK with her talents and marketability. Long gone are the days when raw talent and ability to win races got people competitive rides (if that truly was ever really available). Thankfully she didn’t get injured from all her ‘incidents’ and should be financially set for life.

Posted by: Dave_Darling May 28 2018, 08:48 PM

To be fair, a lot of drivers, including some with lots of experience, were doing the solo crash thing in that corner yesterday.

... Of course, it does seem to be more of a consistent pattern with her ...

Maybe she can team up with Crashtor, I mean, Pastor Maldonado now?

--DD

Posted by: URY914 Jul 19 2018, 04:57 PM

She is retired and still can't win.....

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/danica-patrick-espys-monologue-called-awkward-cringey-video-011920636.html

Posted by: carr914 Jul 19 2018, 07:08 PM

She was Fuchin Horrible! She Crashed in the 1st minute!

This was funny thou


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb3JDHLhVbU

Posted by: gms Jul 19 2018, 07:31 PM

That was funny TC!

Posted by: andys Jul 20 2018, 08:29 AM

Painful to watch, though in reality, it's not her doing. The writers and producer are to blame for allowing poorly written material to find its way to air. I actually felt sorry for Danica....Didn't help her image.

Andys

Posted by: GeorgeRud Jul 20 2018, 03:55 PM

Participating in that video certainly makes me like her more. Anyone who’se willing to make fun of themselves is OK in my book.

Posted by: URY914 Jul 20 2018, 04:06 PM

Sorry but I can't agree. She has a agent who got her the gig and she knew what she was doing. Kinda like driving in a series that she didn't have the talent for.

Posted by: carr914 Jul 20 2018, 05:22 PM

No, She came across exactly as she is in person - no personality, just a Bitch!

Good Luck Aaron! lol

Posted by: euro911 Jul 20 2018, 05:39 PM

I'd still let her take the pole position

Posted by: preach Jul 16 2020, 05:54 PM

The girl of your dreams is single again! Go get her fellas!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/nfl-star-aaron-rodgers-and-danica-patrick-split-after-two-years-together/ar-BB16PJfJ?li=BBnb2gh

Posted by: euro911 Jul 16 2020, 08:23 PM

Hmmm, I wouldn't mind giving her a whirl