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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ $2400 later....does it look any different?
Posted by: billh1963 Feb 25 2012, 02:11 PM
Some may remember (if you are totally bored and spend all your time on this forum) that I bought this Zambezi Green '74 just before Christmas. It was bought it sight unseen so you never know what you are going to get.
The seller was pretty good about describing the rust issues and that the carbs would need to be adjusted for sea level. What he did not mention was that the transmission was in need of some serious work.
So, I took the car to a local Porsche indie (the Eastern racers on this forum know him...Bob Woodman ...the tire guy) and $2400 later I have a rebuilt transmission from Dr. Evil installed (Thank you, Mike), new T/O bearing, a new RMS and other seals, and fully synchronized carbs. Here's the "new" look!
I've driven the car around 50 miles today and I'm very pleased. The remaining work:
1. Adjust the clutch - the clutch engages/disengages right at floor. I would like for it to engage right in the middle of the range. Which way do I need to adjust the cable at the transmission end to make that happen?
2. The clutch cable tube is loose and is actually up in the tunnel. I guess the only way to get that fixed is to get access to the tunnel and get the tube back in place?
The car back at home:
Posted by: euro911 Feb 25 2012, 02:54 PM
You'll need to tighten up the adjustment slightly (maybe multiple times) to get it where you want it to disengage. If you have to adjust it often, it could be caused by the cable stretching, the tube in the tunnel pulling further away from it's mounting point(s), or possibly a bending roll-pin in the clutch pedal arm at the foot pedal assembly.
Car is looking nice 
Posted by: Vacca Rabite Feb 25 2012, 04:06 PM
Before you start adjusting the clutch cable, you have to re-weld the clutch tube. Without that being firmly in place, adjustments are not going to do anything good for your car. Fix the tube, and the clutch cable adjustment will be a piece of cake.
Zach
Posted by: dlee6204 Feb 25 2012, 04:16 PM
Before you start adjusting the clutch cable, you have to re-weld the clutch tube. Without that being firmly in place, adjustments are not going to do anything good for your car. Fix the tube, and the clutch cable adjustment will be a piece of cake.
Zach
Posted by: Garold Shaffer Feb 25 2012, 04:40 PM
Before you start adjusting the clutch cable, you have to re-weld the clutch tube. Without that being firmly in place, adjustments are not going to do anything good for your car. Fix the tube, and the clutch cable adjustment will be a piece of cake.
Zach
ask me how I know. 
Posted by: Rusty Feb 25 2012, 05:51 PM
Before you start adjusting the clutch cable, you have to re-weld the clutch tube. Without that being firmly in place, adjustments are not going to do anything good for your car. Fix the tube, and the clutch cable adjustment will be a piece of cake.
Zach
ask me how I know.
Posted by: billh1963 Feb 25 2012, 05:56 PM
Looks like it's unanimous! Guess I'll be working on a clutch tube now.
Posted by: aharder Feb 25 2012, 06:00 PM
Before you start adjusting the clutch cable, you have to re-weld the clutch tube. Without that being firmly in place, adjustments are not going to do anything good for your car. Fix the tube, and the clutch cable adjustment will be a piece of cake.
Zach
ask me how I know.
Posted by: euro911 Feb 25 2012, 06:22 PM
I was having to readjust the clutch on my wife's car so much that I finally took everything apart. Inspection in the tunnel revealed that the clutch tube was fully intact, the pressure plate, was fine ... ended up just being the cable
If you know for sure your tube's come undone, then by all means ... 
Posted by: jimkelly Feb 25 2012, 06:40 PM
here is the fix ...
i assume there are less pathetic ways to do it also 
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Posted by: Tom Feb 25 2012, 06:52 PM
Anyway, clutch adjustments aside, that is a nice looking car.
Tom
Posted by: Eric_Shea Feb 25 2012, 06:52 PM
No, no, no... that's pure beauty! From the tin can opener to the "Stanley" bracket from Home Depot. I don't think clutch tube repairs get much better than that!
Posted by: billh1963 Feb 25 2012, 07:06 PM
If you know for sure your tube's come undone, then by all means ...
Tube is free floating....
That was another undisclosed "feature"
Posted by: ConeDodger Feb 25 2012, 07:29 PM
No, no, no... that's pure beauty! From the tin can opener to the "Stanley" bracket from Home Depot. I don't think clutch tube repairs get much better than that!
Body putty? That'd work right?
Posted by: euro911 Feb 26 2012, 01:43 AM
i assume there are less pathetic ways to do it also
Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Feb 26 2012, 09:14 AM
Fix it this way....Much mo better. No need to cut the center tunnel, just access the tube by removing the shifter and plug weld it to the side of the tunnel.
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Posted by: Tom Feb 26 2012, 09:20 AM
Jeff,
Can you give more details on your method? I like it!
Thanks,
Tom
Posted by: billh1963 Feb 26 2012, 09:29 AM
Fix it this way....Much mo better. No need to cut the center tunnel, just access the tube by removing the shifter and plug weld it to the side of the tunnel.
Looks like a good solution!
Posted by: Prospectfarms Feb 26 2012, 10:01 AM
Fix it this way....Much mo better. No need to cut the center tunnel, just access the tube by removing the shifter and plug weld it to the side of the tunnel.
Can you give more details on your method? I like it!
Thanks,
Tom
Aye, no good deed goes unpunished. When I first saw photo I thought it was a joke suggestion to embed the tubes in concrete within the tunnel! Bad eyes, overactive imagination.
Are those "spot welds" in photo the plug welds as seen from the outside bonding the clutch tube to the inside of the tunnel? What's the white stuff?
Thanks a lot.
Posted by: Dr Tard Feb 26 2012, 10:37 AM
bad tube = short lived transmission/clutch/TOB/etc.
Just for the record, MY charge was only PART of the $2500 bill 
Dont want to frighten off potential clients 
Posted by: bembry Feb 26 2012, 11:16 AM
Before you start adjusting the clutch cable, you have to re-weld the clutch tube. Without that being firmly in place, adjustments are not going to do anything good for your car. Fix the tube, and the clutch cable adjustment will be a piece of cake.
Zach
ask me how I know. Yep..been there too.
Posted by: billh1963 Feb 26 2012, 11:44 AM
Just for the record, MY charge was only PART of the $2500 bill
Dont want to frighten off potential clients Absolutely!
By the way....Bob Woodman says that's one of the nicest shifting rebuilds he's seen! Excellent job by the doctor!
I'll be bringing the old transmission to the clinic...it's going to need some bearings!
Posted by: Philip W. Feb 26 2012, 12:47 PM
Just for the record, MY charge was only PART of the $2500 bill
Dont want to frighten off potential clients Absolutely!
By the way....Bob Woodman says that's one of the nicest shifting rebuilds he's seen! Excellent job by the doctor!
I'll be bringing the old transmission to the clinic...it's going to need some bearings!
I had the pleasure of being the first to test drive this car and other than the issue of the tube between 3-4the shifting it was smooth, I am so looking forward to the clinic and getting my transmission as well! Really a nice driving car Bill!
Posted by: Dr Evil Feb 26 2012, 01:32 PM
Just for the record, MY charge was only PART of the $2500 bill
Dont want to frighten off potential clients Absolutely!
By the way....Bob Woodman says that's one of the nicest shifting rebuilds he's seen! Excellent job by the doctor!
I'll be bringing the old transmission to the clinic...it's going to need some bearings!
Dude! I love hearing stuff like that from the old pros
Thanks for reporting.
Posted by: billh1963 Feb 26 2012, 01:47 PM
Just for the record, MY charge was only PART of the $2500 bill
Dont want to frighten off potential clients Absolutely!
By the way....Bob Woodman says that's one of the nicest shifting rebuilds he's seen! Excellent job by the doctor!
I'll be bringing the old transmission to the clinic...it's going to need some bearings!
I had the pleasure of being the first to test drive this car and other than the issue of the tube between 3-4the shifting it was smooth, I am so looking forward to the clinic and getting my transmission as well! Really a nice driving car Bill!
I'm glad I was following Phil back to my house....I wasn't sure he was going to stop!
Posted by: Philip W. Feb 26 2012, 01:51 PM
Doc, when I was there he said, I don't know where he got that but it was an excellent build. His background is 30 years in porsche Aircooled racing and mechanics, and a mechanical engeneering degree from georgia tech. Also one of the guys that occasionally helps out in the shop is a 50 year veteran of porsche , originally from germany he apprenticed with porsche at the age.of 15 So I would say it was a nice complement.
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Posted by: Philip W. Feb 26 2012, 01:55 PM
Just for the record, MY charge was only PART of the $2500 bill
Dont want to frighten off potential clients Absolutely!
By the way....Bob Woodman says that's one of the nicest shifting rebuilds he's seen! Excellent job by the doctor!
I'll be bringing the old transmission to the clinic...it's going to need some bearings!
I had the pleasure of being the first to test drive this car and other than the issue of the tube between 3-4the shifting it was smooth, I am so looking forward to the clinic and getting my transmission as well! Really a nice driving car Bill!
I'm glad I was following Phil back to my house....I wasn't sure he was going to stop!
The thought crossed my mind.
I almost forgot where I was going.
Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Feb 26 2012, 03:25 PM
Go Here:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=64569&hl=clutch+tube+repair
Fix it this way....Much mo better. No need to cut the center tunnel, just access the tube by removing the shifter and plug weld it to the side of the tunnel.
Can you give more details on your method? I like it!
Thanks,
Tom
Aye, no good deed goes unpunished. When I first saw photo I thought it was a joke suggestion to embed the tubes in concrete within the tunnel! Bad eyes, overactive imagination.
Are those "spot welds" in photo the plug welds as seen from the outside bonding the clutch tube to the inside of the tunnel? What's the white stuff?
Thanks a lot.
Posted by: Tom Feb 26 2012, 07:21 PM
Thanks Jeff!
Tom
Posted by: SUNAB914 Feb 27 2012, 07:51 AM
That too bad about the tube, but at least you can get it fixed. Nice picture of your cars.
Posted by: billh1963 Feb 27 2012, 08:27 AM
That too bad about the tube, but at least you can get it fixed. Nice picture of your cars.
997 might be leaving soon. I'll have room for a certain white 914 I know about
Posted by: Philip W. Feb 27 2012, 08:34 AM
That too bad about the tube, but at least you can get it fixed. Nice picture of your cars.
997 might be leaving soon. I'll have room for a certain white 914 I know about
you are't selling your 997 are you?
i think that would be a mistake. that white 914 you are referring to, the one at your other house? i may be making a mistake here letting that slide thru my fingers!
but i know as often as you buy/sell/trade it would be in good hands until i would have room for another - and i have't decided yet--- but you will be the first to know
Posted by: billh1963 Feb 27 2012, 08:40 AM
you are't selling your 997 are you?
i think that would be a mistake. that white 914 you are referring to, the one at your other house? i may be making a mistake here letting that slide thru my fingers!
but i know as often as you buy/sell/trade it would be in good hands until i would have room for another - and i have't decided yet--- but you will be the first to know You know where that white 914 sits...LOL
Someone has made me a very good offer for my 997....a good bit more than what I paid. I'm thinking of selling and getting a GT3.
Posted by: SUNAB914 Feb 27 2012, 08:56 AM
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Posted by: billh1963 Feb 27 2012, 09:11 AM
I think you enjoy this too much!
Posted by: ww914 Feb 27 2012, 09:34 AM
I also sold a 997 for more than I paid for it. Couldn't pass it up. Now into 914s. Haven't regretted it yet.
By the way, the green 914 looks great. Good job on the tube fix.
Posted by: billh1963 Feb 27 2012, 09:41 AM
I sold a 997 to get into 914s. Haven't regretted it yet.
By the way, the green 914 looks great. Good job on the tube fix.
Well...I have to admit that I love my 997....it's the best 911 I've owned.
If I sell I will get another one. I'm thinking an earlier 997 GT3.
That being said, I really enjoy 914's. They are immensely fun, very inexpensive (compared to the 911) and woefully under appreciated. I believe my future will always have a couple 914's in it!
Posted by: SUNAB914 Feb 27 2012, 10:22 AM
Having a weak moment, someone better jump. 
Posted by: scotty b Feb 27 2012, 08:13 PM
so does this mean you dropped the Boxter hunt Phil ?
Posted by: billh1963 Mar 15 2012, 12:08 PM
Fix it this way....Much mo better. No need to cut the center tunnel, just access the tube by removing the shifter and plug weld it to the side of the tunnel.
Clutch tube was fixed this week using the method Jeff described above. The transformation is amazing. Between the repaired clutch tube, a new shift bushing. and Dr. Evil's transmission this car shifts fantastically! (well...for a 914. anyway
)
Posted by: Dr Evil Mar 15 2012, 12:30 PM
It will never shift like a Honduh, but it will be close
Posted by: Philip W. Mar 15 2012, 12:36 PM
so does this mean you dropped the Boxter hunt Phil ?
nope- I bought the boxter, but enjoy driving the 914, and I am sure eve more sol when the transmission is rebuilt dr.evil style, new bushings etc. Hoping to eliminate those pesky leaks. Seems like bill and i are in a contest to see who can do more or should I say spend more on their 914car in a year, LOL. But I hear that it is coming up your way soon Scotty, so I guess he may win if that is the case.
Fix it this way....Much mo better. No need to cut the center tunnel, just access the tube by removing the shifter and plug weld it to the side of the tunnel.
Clutch tube was fixed this week using the method Jeff described above. The transformation is amazing. Between the repaired clutched tube, a new shift bushing. and Dr. Evil's transmission this car shifts fantastically! (well...for a 914. anyway
)And now just tho spread the wealth around, its rust repair time.
Posted by: billh1963 Mar 15 2012, 01:21 PM
These cars get expensive...fast!
Bringing this one up with me to leave with Scotty and bringing another one back! I must be... 
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