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Posted by: URY914 Sep 14 2004, 07:56 PM

Does anyone have a picture of a lightened 2.0 rod?

Or a website that would have one?

I've searched all my stuff and can't seem to find one. I hate to have to go back through all my print material.

Thanks,

Paul

Posted by: Bleyseng Sep 14 2004, 09:24 PM

One with holes drilled in it?


Geoff

Posted by: synthesisdv Sep 14 2004, 09:48 PM

these thingies?


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Posted by: Joe Sharp Old Sep 14 2004, 10:03 PM

Gosh! I'am getting a woodie. I like things that are finished by hand. OOPPPSSS! biggrin.gif
Joe

Posted by: URY914 Sep 15 2004, 07:48 AM

I love things with holes drilled in them.

Jake, Brad, Racer Chris, others, whata think?

Thanks David.

Paul

Posted by: Racer Chris Sep 15 2004, 08:11 AM

Those took some time, for sure.
Notice the groove in the big end and the ridges on the small end. A lot of material was removed.
I would think that for the time invested a set of Carillos or Pauters would still be lighter and definitely stronger.

Posted by: synthesisdv Sep 15 2004, 08:21 AM

QUOTE(URY914 @ Sep 15 2004, 09:48 AM)
I love things with holes drilled in them.

Then your gonna like my throttle and oil cooler brackets smile.gif

dr


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Posted by: thesey914 Sep 15 2004, 08:33 AM

Dr -that is one of the nicest custom throttle cable brackets I've seen

Posted by: URY914 Sep 15 2004, 08:40 AM

Chris,
You're right. Cutting in the groove is a hand milling job right?

What about just drilling the holes and cleaning them up with a grinding wheel and stationary belt sander?

Paul

Posted by: SLITS Sep 15 2004, 08:44 AM

You run 'em in your engine and when the beams seperate at high rpm, you can have fun rebuilding it again laugh.gif

And while your at it, you might want to purchase 9XXAuto's high performance fuel rails and throttle bodies. <_<

Posted by: maf914 Sep 15 2004, 09:09 AM

dr,

Nice brackets! Aluminum? What gauge? Thanks.

Posted by: synthesisdv Sep 15 2004, 09:19 AM

QUOTE(maf914 @ Sep 15 2004, 11:09 AM)
Nice brackets!  Aluminum?  What gauge

Thanks Mike,

I used 14 (.0641") gauge aluminum because I have very limited tools for working the metal. Basically a drill press and a saber saw.

I was worried about the rigidity of the throttle bracket but it is very strong, even with the lightening holes. You really can't feel it deflect when you pull side to side with a strong hand.

The cooler bracket as an assembly is also fairly rigid. I have plastic spacers between the cooler and the bracket and rubber sheet between it and the body. Feels very stiff, deflects the slightest bit side to side. maybe .05"

If the coolers do get wacked, at least they wont damage the body too much when they fail. If I used heavier stock, probably would rip the bottom of the trunk out.

dr

Posted by: Aaron Cox Sep 15 2004, 09:22 AM

dr,

that was an inspiration to throttle brackets all over the world smile.gif

Posted by: Brett W Sep 15 2004, 09:27 AM

Check out these rods:


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Posted by: synthesisdv Sep 15 2004, 09:28 AM

QUOTE(acox914 @ Sep 15 2004, 11:22 AM)
that was an inspiration to throttle brackets all over the world smile.gif

I always wanted to help mankind, guess the best I can do is a cool bracket. laugh.gif

Seriously, the whole thing arose from the fact that the linkage was already setup to pull from (behind). Every other 914 carb linkage I have seen pulls from the front. I had to figure a way to mount the cable head at the back of the case.

I know I could have swapped the linkage around but the motor was dyno'd with the current setup and I didn't want to take it all apart. There are enough variables already since basically I don't have any idea what I'm doing. wacko.gif

dr

Posted by: Brett W Sep 15 2004, 09:28 AM

I want some


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Posted by: synthesisdv Sep 15 2004, 09:30 AM

Looks like they will snap if you look at them too hard.

dr

Posted by: URY914 Sep 15 2004, 09:36 AM

QUOTE(synthesisdv @ Sep 15 2004, 07:19 AM)
Feels very stiff, deflects the slightest bit side to side. maybe .05"


lThats what I can inspiration. lol2.gif

Now can we get back to my rods.

Paul

Posted by: synthesisdv Sep 15 2004, 09:39 AM

QUOTE(URY914 @ Sep 15 2004, 11:36 AM)
Now can we get back to my rods.

what rods?

also, don't any of us work???

Should we be thinking about rods and holes on a weekday? unsure.gif

dr

Posted by: Aaron Cox Sep 15 2004, 09:41 AM

QUOTE(synthesisdv @ Sep 15 2004, 08:39 AM)
QUOTE(URY914 @ Sep 15 2004, 11:36 AM)
Now can we get back to my rods.

what rods?

also, don't any of us work???

Should we be thinking about rods and holes on a weekday? unsure.gif

dr

what a fitting topic for HUMP day biggrin.gif

Posted by: URY914 Sep 15 2004, 09:42 AM

QUOTE(synthesisdv @ Sep 15 2004, 07:39 AM)
also, don't any of us work???

Should we be thinking about rods and holes on a weekday? unsure.gif

dr

I do work. But this is MUCH more important!!! driving.gif

P

Posted by: Dominic Sep 15 2004, 04:18 PM

I have a question on 2.0 rods? Are most people using the stock rods when they build performance engines? Since there are not too many chioces.....What are you folks using?

I'm going to be running a C/W crank and JE 96mm flat top pistons on my 2056cc engine.

Posted by: Jake Raby Sep 15 2004, 06:34 PM

Almost all my engines use a Type I rod combo.... I have the cranks and pistons made especially for it.

The 2.0 rod is heavy and weak ane more expensive for a rebuilt set than a H beam rod set that is 400 grams lighter and will hold 200 more HP.

There are no aftermarket rods for the TIV using a stock journal unless you call Pauter ( I don't like theirs) or Carrillo ($$$ but worth every dime)

I am working on a 2.0 replacement rod that will drop right in, and also another version that is longer for better rod ratios.

BTW, if its a street engine the JEs may not be the best choice. The Keith Blacks are a much better street piston. They run quieter, burn less oil and are lighter- just as strong.

Posted by: rhodyguy Sep 16 2004, 08:17 AM

so the am 2.0 type 4 rods that cb and aircooled.net sell are incompatible/won't work?

kevin

Posted by: URY914 Sep 16 2004, 11:52 AM

Jake,
I gotta use my stock rods due to my 97mm Arias pistion's pin height which I posted about a few days ago. You said I need to get the weight down to 600 grams.

So looking I'm for the best way to do this. Grind and clean it up or drill some holes like the picture above?

Paul

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