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Posted by: Ferg Sep 15 2004, 08:45 AM

along with my pertronix install i did a cap and rotor, well when transfering plug wires from one cap to another, i pulled to high up and pulled the wire out of the connector, I know it could be repaired but theay are older stock type anyhow so I want to replace them. Any suggestions, car is a 2.7 conversion.
Ferg.

Posted by: seanery Sep 15 2004, 09:10 AM

I've got magnecore's on my 2.7 car.

Posted by: Aaron Cox Sep 15 2004, 09:19 AM

anyone ever use MSD or moroso wires?

Posted by: ArtechnikA Sep 15 2004, 09:24 AM

once again - Magnecore... 85's will be all you need.

i'm sure -somebody- has used MSD or Moroso wires.
but the hard part is not the wire, it is the 911 plug connector.
Magnecor's done it right. -and- they are good wires.

Posted by: KenH Sep 15 2004, 09:26 AM

Magnacore - buy direct - see their WEB site.

Ken

Posted by: synthesisdv Sep 15 2004, 09:36 AM

I have these phat auroras from aircooled.net. They are red, that's all I know about them so far.

Quick question.

I need to cut the ends off the coil lead and crimp on a 90deg angle boot. I am running a bulkhead mount fitting for the coil. (thats why)

So is there anything special about crimping one of these big cables? The factory crimping looks wierd.

dr


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Posted by: Aaron Cox Sep 15 2004, 09:39 AM

party foul! improper use of zip ties. Five yards, and first down!
buy the ultra cool spark wire holders

Posted by: synthesisdv Sep 15 2004, 09:43 AM

Well you tell it to Jake then. He's the one that put them there.

That's all I got to say about that.

dr

Posted by: Aaron Cox Sep 15 2004, 09:45 AM

i now retract my statement!

Posted by: rdauenhauer Sep 15 2004, 10:49 AM

How bout Nologyhttp://www.nology.com/hot.html

Posted by: ArtechnikA Sep 15 2004, 11:01 AM

i am unconvinced. they're at least $100 more than Magnecore, for one thing.
they compare to 'conventional' ignition but a 2,7 already has a CD box (at least).

their device works on the same principle as a series-gap spark plug and i don't see how it can provide an advantage when there is already a CD ignition. (and every ignition wire has SOME capacitance...)

love to see the impartial A/B/A dyno runs on an engine that already has a HiPo CD ignition box

Posted by: rdauenhauer Sep 15 2004, 11:14 AM

In a enviroment where you have a CD ignition I might agree.
The amount of capacitance in just a single wire run is negligibal (try and load up and pop a "spark plug" wire!). On a type 4, who knows, I am convinced as on my GSXR race bike a swap from stockers to hotwires with individual postive grounding and added capacitance showed a butt and real dyno gain (butt dyno felt stronger than the 2hp recorded)
Ya I know someone is gonna claim youll get better performance just by swapping new for old but 2HP?
(BTW they also happen to be one of my sponsors )

Posted by: brant Sep 15 2004, 11:19 AM

how much are the magnacores..

(I know I should google it)
brant

Posted by: ChrisReale Sep 15 2004, 03:20 PM

Spark plug wires are up there with replaceables like cap and rotor and plugs etc... Dont spend too much money. I like magnecore. The stock Bosch are good also. I fail to see how spending big bucks on "boutique" plug wires will yield any better results. But I also probably would not be able to tell the difference between normal copper speaker wire, and the ultra-expensive pure silver wire that audiophiles use, so what do I know?

Posted by: ArtechnikA Sep 15 2004, 03:28 PM

i got mine from http://www.apexperformance.net/cartgenie/prodInfo.asp?pid=130&cid=10

relatively local to me, good guys to talk to, PCA members (i don't recall if i asked for, or got, a PCA discount...)

$128 looks like for the 8,5mm

Posted by: Sammy Sep 15 2004, 03:36 PM

I bought my magnecors from windward a couple years back, paid $129.

They are very good wires, if I had to do it again I would still buy magnecors. Made a huge improvrement in the way the engine ran, but that just tells me how bad the OEM wires were.

A couple of things:
I don't like the way the connector feels when it goes onto the dizzy cap, but they don't come loose so it aint a big deal.

The little round rubber seals that seal the cooling air from leaking out the valve covers are junk on the magnecors.
Mine kind of shriveled up and don't seal worth a darn. Not that big of a deal to me, but if your cooling is marginal it might be an issue.

Posted by: Ferg Sep 15 2004, 03:40 PM

Thanks, that looks like a good price on them...

Truthfully I didn't realize how much money they are... How do I repair my mistake for now. I thought I had a grip on the connector and I didn't I ended up pulling the wire out of the connector that goes to the cap. I twisted it back in, but not sure if I need to recut it or not, to get a good connection?
Ferg.

Posted by: seanery Sep 15 2004, 03:46 PM

contact Richard Clewett for magnecores.
I shopped around and found that he had the best pricing, in 2000 for them.

Posted by: brant Sep 15 2004, 04:09 PM

mike,

I'll send you a note...
but I'm sure its repairable... even if we go to the flaps and buy a $.99 end for it.

brant

Posted by: Ferg Sep 15 2004, 04:25 PM

I may not get your email Brant, something is really screwy with my hotmail today... none of my outgoing messages are going through, (i think) and I not sure i'm getting all of them either.

Ferg.

Posted by: brant Sep 15 2004, 04:31 PM

Call me....

I was going to do housework.. but could do white car work if you need?

brant

Posted by: ArtechnikA Sep 15 2004, 04:34 PM

i'm a bit sub-thrilled about the cap fit too, but i always use a Nylon tie-wrap on each tower so i -know- they're not coming out. (and i use a different color on #1, so i don't have to try to remember which one that is...)

my plug end airseals are holding up fine, but i have a mere 2,2 and it probably doesn't get as hot, plus it just doesn't get as hot here, and there's less ozone...

Posted by: Ferg Sep 15 2004, 04:47 PM

Brant, no worries, i'll play with it tonight, if I get stuck I may call you.
Ferg.

Posted by: TimT Sep 15 2004, 04:48 PM

You could alway build your own wires.. get the length and fit perfect.

Look http://www.kingsborne.com/800.htm you can buy bulk Delphi Packard wire, and all sorts of Beru connectors along with the crimp tools etc....

Years ago (cant believe I can say that) I made wire for my 911 using copper core wire with the stock Beru connectors.. never worried to much about a radio in my 911's

I have Magnecores on both my cars, the plug connector seems much more positive than the stock wires..