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Posted by: winnkhan Sep 15 2004, 04:32 PM

Does anybody know of a dealer/ supplier that offers a headlight kit that would use the front fender signal location as the headlight ?
With the new halogen light available it shouldnt be to hard to put head lights and turn signals in those areas.

Posted by: Cloudbuster Sep 15 2004, 04:41 PM

Don't know of any kits. I've been toying with the idea of install these mini lights into the turn signal pods. I'd like to ditch the pop-up headlights.

http://foglights.com/xlo.html
http://foglights.com/xsl.html

Might have to widen the pod, or form & weld in some bulges / fairings to get them to blend, and not look too 'import'ish.

Posted by: winnkhan Sep 15 2004, 09:05 PM

thats what i was after too (losing the pop ups)
i thought maybe i would make my own pod from fiberglass , and maybe use the european lens since they are mostly clear. problem would be the turn signal operation unless you split the new pod.

Posted by: winnkhan Sep 15 2004, 09:07 PM

thanks for the web sights .

Posted by: Cloudbuster Sep 15 2004, 09:23 PM

Look for some LEDs to replace the turn signal. I've seen small billet, bullet shaped LEDs for hot rods that would fit inside the pod. (Too lazy to do web search right now)

For lens covers look here
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=2951

in 914 Parts, Products, etc.

Posted by: ! Sep 15 2004, 09:42 PM

The reason the 914s HAVE popup headlights is due to Federal headlight height minimums. You COULD put an auxilary light down there but legally need the popups.........

Posted by: Cloudbuster Sep 15 2004, 09:56 PM

I'm not sure where 'down there' is, but I do have minimum headlight height in mind in my mental ramblings.

Headlight height is measured from the ground to the center of the lens, right?

Therefore, 2" dia light at the top of the turn signal pod would actually have a center point that is higher than the center of the real headlights. I think. Haven't acutally measured.

Posted by: ! Sep 15 2004, 10:22 PM

I was assuming that you wanted to put headlights in the grill area.....sorry, read too fast.

Posted by: fiid Sep 16 2004, 01:20 AM

You aren't going to get away with plastic turn signal lenses for 2 reasons:

1) they will probably melt
2) the beam pattern will be aweful.

I think the best bet is to get some thick glass cut and drilled - with the cuts at an angle. I think it ought to be possible to get an LED turn signal and an HID light in that space and provide more than adequate lighting whilst losing the popups.

I will probably try to do this when I'm done with my current projects and have too much time and money lying around.

Posted by: DougC Sep 16 2004, 08:46 AM

This is where you need to look for conversion lighting..Also check some of the Mazda Miata sites, they often do similar conversions. I've thought about doing this to a 914 for a while.. anyway check out this site! http://www.rallylights.com/hella/headlamps.htm

Doug C

Posted by: winnkhan Sep 16 2004, 07:08 PM

i think this will look sweet , sleek , smooth the hood move the lights. sweet.

i had considered modifiing a bumper/ spoiler to do all the lighting . but i ll probably just use the turn pods.

Posted by: SpecialK Sep 16 2004, 07:23 PM

Seems like something like this would work pretty well using headlight covers that drop down exposing the lights at the rear of the headlight bucket.....Okay, well squint your eyes and look at it again.


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Posted by: winnkhan Sep 17 2004, 10:06 PM

are you saying to leave the head lights where they are ? and expose them with a cover?
good idea.
that would be a lot easier and would give the car a very up dated look.
I wonder if you could use the fog and signal light that in this picture modify it to fit that 914 turn pod?
which car is this?

Posted by: rhodyguy Sep 18 2004, 07:39 AM

there is/was a car(a 6) in the classifieds that has the pop up lights removed, some sort of fixed lights installed, and clear covers.

kevin

Posted by: nsyr Sep 18 2004, 08:32 PM

something like this


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Posted by: nsyr Sep 18 2004, 08:36 PM

this


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Posted by: Aaron Cox Sep 18 2004, 08:47 PM

i think it looks ...but it is a neat idea. maybe if the openeing wasnt square

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Sep 18 2004, 10:19 PM

I think the pop ups are cool.
Cheers, Elliot

Posted by: winnkhan Sep 18 2004, 10:26 PM

I think your both right ,is that a orderable light ?
if you were to overlay the outside edge of the light with fiberglass and paint it to match the car it would make the opening look smaller .cool
where did you find these headlights?

Posted by: DougC Sep 20 2004, 09:39 AM

Come on NSYR give us more info on those lights in your picture - please.

Doug C

Posted by: fiid Sep 20 2004, 10:31 AM

I think putting non-popup lights in the stock place is an excellent idea. I also like the idea of doing the miata-like popups that only rise 3" or so - just enough for a pair of small projectors each side. I don't know how easy it would be to modify the 914 light mechanism to allow for this though.

Posted by: 914Timo Sep 20 2004, 11:35 AM

I like the idea too. We have measured there should be enough room for two light modules per side. Hella makes very nice modules, where the diameter of the light is 95mm. Hella codes should be something like 1BL008193-027 (h9 bulb) and 1KO008191-057. The only problem is that they are quite expencives and I wouldnt like to have a set just for testing.

An other idea I have thought many times is using 928 lights in 914. I like 928 lights but they need quite a lot

Posted by: 914Timo Sep 20 2004, 11:56 AM

Try this http://www.hella.com/produktion/HellaPortal/WebSite/InternetImages/Drivers/download/gb_zub_3_03.pdf if you like to see more about Hella lights.

Posted by: 914Timo Sep 20 2004, 11:58 AM

...or this http://www.hella.cz/prisl/tuning/main.htm

And the diameter was only 90mm.