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Posted by: Gint May 6 2003, 09:29 PM

Subject/description says it all. Are his the same as the overlays that Resoration Designs sells? Anybody have real pictures of either?

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=1191&hl=oration

Posted by: Brad Roberts May 6 2003, 09:31 PM

The over lays fit right over what you now have.. almost undectable.

The last ones I used from BM where big steel plates that kinda welded over the top.

I think BM's where more designed to help rusted sagging cars than they where for actual rust repair.

I have some pics somewhere of both..


B

Posted by: Gint May 6 2003, 09:35 PM

My body guy keeps telling me I should use the overlays. He's referring to RD's units. He doesn't plan to repair rust with them, but he believes they will stiffen up the chassis. I'm thinking that it will just be another place for new rust to form.

You know how it is. There are two camps for long stiffening. I'm not certain that it's necessary as long as the chassis is solid. And mine will be when it's finished. But I want to see the options.

Posted by: Brad Roberts May 6 2003, 09:39 PM

I dont like the idea of trapping "anything" between the 2 pieces. I would rather see the rust happening under the "band aid". I like BM's pieces but I dont think I would ever use them (I sold the last set I had)


B

Posted by: Lawrence914-6 May 6 2003, 09:40 PM

Here's a link.

http://www.highway914.net/tech/mayeur/mayeur.htm

They are not a stock looking lamination kit. They tie directly into the trailing arm mounting point. You have to remove an alignment shim to install them.

Brad's is very detectable... but provides much more stiffness.

-Rusty

Posted by: Lawrence914-6 May 6 2003, 09:41 PM

Oh, one more thing.

They also tie into the door sill, if you install them the way he recommends.

-Rusty

Posted by: Gint May 6 2003, 09:42 PM

Thanks Rusty.

Has anyone installed the Restoration Designs overlays? Pictures? Brad have you seen them and if so, your thoughts?

Posted by: Qarl May 6 2003, 09:44 PM

They are good steamed!


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Posted by: Lawrence914-6 May 6 2003, 09:46 PM

One more thing.. kind of a P.P.S.

Brad's kit has evolved over the years... and the pictures I posted are not the current version. I think the current version may be a one-piece kit, per side.

-Rusty

Posted by: Brad Roberts May 6 2003, 09:48 PM

The only reason I like them over the BM pieces:

When I see BM pieces on a 914 tub.. it makes me IMEDIATELY think: "This car was a rusted piece of sh_t" .... not: "Oh, they where trying to strengthen the tub". My thoughts on this are usually echo'd by whomever I'm with looking at the car.

You stand a chance of a very clean install with the RD pieces, and that would go unotticed by 90% of the 914 people out there.


I like both kits.... but I'm concerned with what people think in the long run.

(yes I know this car is a rusted POS, but your having it done correctly)

The BM pieces feel like a cop out to actually using the proper pieces.

My .02

B

Posted by: Matt914MI May 6 2003, 09:50 PM

I called BM this morning to order but I have to wait a week so he can get more jack receivers. Hopefully I'll have a set in a couple weeks. When I do, I'll post pics of what the new version looks like.

Posted by: Brad Roberts May 6 2003, 10:02 PM

Thanks Matt.

The quality is very good.

Please take some good pics.. and show us what BM selling now-a-days.


B

Posted by: boxstr May 6 2003, 10:13 PM

You might try www.restoration-design.com and look for a picture.
CCLINCLAMSHELL

Posted by: Gint May 6 2003, 10:17 PM

Posted by: Matt914MI May 6 2003, 10:24 PM

Don't worry. I'll be documenting the whole process with lots of pictures. I may even throw together a better website someday.

Posted by: Gint May 9 2003, 11:01 PM

Does anyone have pictures of the Restoration Designs overlays actually installed on a car?

Posted by: Lawrence914-6 May 10 2003, 08:11 AM

Here is a pic of Mayeur's kit, installed. This picture is mid-restoration, from 1999, I believe.

-Rusty

Posted by: Lawrence914-6 May 10 2003, 08:12 AM

here's the pic.


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Posted by: Gint May 10 2003, 08:22 AM

Thanks Rusty.

Still looking for a pic of the Restoration Designs overlays installed though. Anybody?

Posted by: Gint May 18 2003, 08:22 PM

I got an email yesterday from Bill at Restoration Designs. Great information and pictures of the RD overlays. He couldn't get the pics posted here so I wanted to post them.

Posted by: Lawrence914-6 May 18 2003, 09:10 PM

Someone must have really loved that particular chassis. If that's a professional install, he could have bought a new car for the price of the work.

Posted by: Gint May 18 2003, 09:16 PM

I resemble that remark

Posted by: rhodyguy May 19 2003, 07:30 AM

the hoops we jump through for these cars no wonder our wives get pissed off.

kevin

Posted by: Gint May 19 2003, 09:53 AM

Nothing against Brad Mayeur, I spoke with him once and I am thankfull that guys like him are out there helping to keep these cars on the road. But I'm going to start a new thread for the RD overlays. Given Bill's willingness to help, the reputation that RD has for good quality parts and the pics he emailed me I needed, I felt it deserved a seperate thread with RD and overlays in the title.