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Posted by: Brett W Sep 27 2004, 03:23 PM

Been a good weekend. Got quiet a bit done here are some of the pics of the weekend.

Here is what I started with Sat morning. I built the rolly car and remounted the car so now I can move it all over the world.


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Posted by: Brett W Sep 27 2004, 03:27 PM

Off with Her head.


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Posted by: Aaron Cox Sep 27 2004, 03:28 PM

woohooo! whats fenders are you going to run?

Posted by: Brett W Sep 27 2004, 03:30 PM

The rust monster never sleeps. Who ever did the work on this car before me must have installed a rusty fender and then covered it up with the seam sealer and undercoat.


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Posted by: Brett W Sep 27 2004, 03:31 PM

There goes the fenders. Gonna be easy to clean now.


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Posted by: Brett W Sep 27 2004, 03:33 PM

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Posted by: SirAndy Sep 27 2004, 03:33 PM

QUOTE(Brett W @ Sep 27 2004, 02:30 PM)
The rust monster never sleeps. Who ever did the work on this car before me must have installed a rusty fender and then covered it up with the seam sealer and undercoat.

that is a weak spot. the factory filled it with some kind of foam to prevent water from getting in there. well, after 15 years or so, the foam starts to crack, traps the water and you know the rest.
almost ALL the 914s i have seen had rust in there. the only time i have seen a clean one was where the fender had been replaced with a brand new one at one time and the bodyshop left it open with no foam.

icon8.gif Andy

Posted by: Brett W Sep 27 2004, 03:34 PM

Me in the car. I am going for the lowest most laid back seating position possible.


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Posted by: Lou W Sep 27 2004, 03:35 PM

WOW, that rust looks like it's been there a while, what a mess, what are you gonna do?

Posted by: Brett W Sep 27 2004, 03:36 PM

Grandma drivin, don't even get in fronnt of me. I can't even see over the steering wheel.


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Posted by: Lou W Sep 27 2004, 03:44 PM

QUOTE (Brett W @ Sep 27 2004, 02:30 PM)
The rust monster never sleeps. Who ever did the work on this car before me must have installed a rusty fender and then covered it up with the seam sealer and undercoat.

that is a weak spot. the factory filled it with some kind of foam to prevent water from getting in there. well, after 15 years or so, the foam starts to crack, traps the water and you know the rest.
almost ALL the 914s i have seen had rust in there. the only time i have seen a clean one was where the fender had been replaced with a brand new one at one time and the bodyshop left it open with no foam.

Andy

I hope mine doesn't look like that, I'd like to think that someone installed a rusty fender. ohmy.gif

Posted by: Brett W Sep 27 2004, 04:03 PM

For the most part the rust is gone. When I cut the fender and some of the attachment tabs that got most of it. There is a little bit inside the door hinge plate, but getting to that is not a big problem now that the fender is gone. I'll probably just cut out the back side and have a look around then weld back some good metal. Will solve the problem.

I am not sure about the fenders yet. I may run Sheridan because they are a little more aero but I like the look of the M/R stuff, Baker style flares. The problem is alot of the flares on the market are meant for much wider tire than EP allows so there is a lot of unneccesary width in the flares.

Posted by: synthesisdv Sep 27 2004, 05:05 PM

QUOTE(Brett W @ Sep 27 2004, 06:03 PM)
I am not sure about the fenders yet. I may run Sheridan because they are a little more aero but I like the look of the M/R stuff, Baker style flares.

brett,

can you run fenders like the sheridan type in EP?

I don't think so.

Also, those things are going to kill your top speed at the end of the straights, mucho drag. driving.gif

Posted by: SirAndy Sep 27 2004, 05:08 PM

around here they don't let you run the chopped off windshield 914s anymore unless the car was build way back when and has a logbook ...

sad.gif Andy

Posted by: URY914 Sep 27 2004, 06:46 PM

You need to add a strut from the door hinge plate mounting point back to the latch plate mount. It will help to keep it from bending in the middle.

See the angle I added in this picture.


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Posted by: Brett W Sep 27 2004, 08:13 PM

Fenders are pretty much free. Can't be a 1 peice front end. Can replace the whole fender with a fiberglass replica. See my dilemna. Drag is bad. I may have to make my own fenders. I hope not.

The chassis will be mounted on a chassis jig shortly. I just have to order materials and build it.

914 is allowed to run open or closed prep. No late model cars can run open any more.

Posted by: Jeroen Sep 27 2004, 09:19 PM

You may wanna check HPH for the fenders...

Posted by: Brett W Sep 28 2004, 12:23 AM

I wish I had some pics of Rich's stuff.

Posted by: 914Timo Sep 28 2004, 03:49 AM

Is that same car in your avatar ??

If it is, what you are going to do with that front chrome bumper ??

Posted by: groot Sep 28 2004, 05:56 AM

Looking good!

By now you see the need to lower the steering wheel and extend it towards the driver. Otherwise your front hoop will be way up in the air.

I was worried about being too low in my car. I can't see the fenders while seated. But, once I'm in it on the track, no problem.

Posted by: Racer Chris Sep 28 2004, 07:19 AM

Check with Steve Limbert at http://www.aircooledracing.com in PA for fenders.

Posted by: Brett W Sep 28 2004, 08:11 AM

Timo
I am selling you the bumper, right?

Kevin that is something I wanted to talk to you about.

Chris
I am going to be calling you tonight. You going to be around.

Posted by: Tony C Sep 28 2004, 08:28 AM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Sep 27 2004, 03:08 PM)
around here they don't let you run the chopped off windshield 914s anymore unless the car was build way back when and has a logbook ...

sad.gif Andy

Yes they do in Production class. In GT no. Brad has been telling people you can't for 2-3 years and he is STILL wrong!

-tony sawzall-smiley.gif

Posted by: groot Sep 28 2004, 09:08 AM

Ask away....

Steering wheel location or visibility???

Posted by: Brett W Sep 28 2004, 09:11 AM

I'll give you a call tonight.

Posted by: Jeroen Sep 28 2004, 09:44 AM

QUOTE(Brett W @ Sep 28 2004, 08:23 AM)
I wish I had some pics of Rich's stuff.

Search for pics of Bill Pickering's car (ninecats)

Posted by: Racer Chris Sep 28 2004, 03:04 PM

I'll be around. Feel free to call.

Posted by: Brad Roberts Sep 28 2004, 03:37 PM

We cannot cut the windshields off IN PCA and you cannot cut the windshields off in SCCA GT2. I made the mistake ONCE and everyone took it as the gospel.. jeez.


B

Posted by: Tony C Sep 28 2004, 03:52 PM

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-tony

Posted by: Racer Chris Sep 28 2004, 06:11 PM

Actually, the current GT rules still allow 914s to cut off the roof, since it is a previously classified car. Only new classifications must be full roof body style. You guys gotta learn to read. bootyshake.gif

Posted by: Tony C Sep 28 2004, 07:01 PM

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That wasn't how the original "fastrack" amendment was written, but I just checked the current GCR, and there it is.

-tony

Posted by: 914Timo Sep 29 2004, 12:39 AM

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I am selling you the bumper, right?


Heh, maybe...... I will sen you e-mail. I am looking for a good chromed front bumper.

Posted by: nein14-6 Dec 6 2004, 11:38 AM

Question, does the Ginther style windscreen cover/replace the piece of sheet metal that is in front of the stock windshield that the wiper and fresh air vent were mounted to? In other words on a new project that I am working on, that piece is very rusty and I would like to remove it. Does the windscreen cover that panel?

Thanks

Posted by: crash914 Dec 6 2004, 01:01 PM

come on, tell us that you made Vroom Vroom noises when you sat in it..... wink.gif

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