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Posted by: Britain Smith Apr 13 2012, 02:12 PM

I have this little 2 month vacation this summer called a "sabbatical" and I am contemplating taking the family to the Pike Peak Hillclimb. I went back in 1998 and it was a fun event to see.

Anyway...looking at the entry list, I spotted this car.

Jeff MacPherson
Bozeman, MT
Pikes Peak Open
1970 Porsche 914

Anyone know who it is?

-Britain

Posted by: Ferg Apr 13 2012, 02:16 PM

This guy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_MacPherson

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Driver Jeff MacPherson (Bozeman, Montana) is entered in the Pikes Peak Open Division and has strong credentials. He was 8th at the 1987 Indianapolis 500 won by Al Unser and won $117,000 for his top ten finish. MacPherson finished just ahead of Mario Andretti in the ’87 Indy 500. He’s driving a 1971 Porsche 914 on Pikes Peak this sumer.

Posted by: URY914 Apr 13 2012, 02:17 PM

I have always wondered if a 914 had ever been entered. I tried looking it up on several PP history sites and never found one. This could be the first!

Posted by: Ferg Apr 13 2012, 02:21 PM

I'm going to try and make it this year, my own backyard and I have never been sad.gif

Posted by: Britain Smith Apr 13 2012, 02:21 PM

Nice.

Maybe I should enter my car....hmmm, it is all paved this year and I have a turbo!

-Britain

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 13 2012, 02:34 PM

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I have always wondered if a 914 had ever been entered. I tried looking it up on several PP history sites and never found one. This could be the first!

Didn't Jeff Zwart run his 914-6 at Pikes Peak?

I vaguely remember seeing a video on youtube of him in the 914, somewhere in-between the million other videos of him ...
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Posted by: majkos Apr 13 2012, 02:43 PM

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I'm going to try and make it this year, my own backyard and I have never been sad.gif


For many years I've always wanted to go,
this is enough of a motivator to think about it this year.
I think Pike Peak's and 914 are perfect for each other driving.gif aktion035.gif

Posted by: brant Apr 13 2012, 02:45 PM

my vintage club has a class with the organizers of the event
we have a lot of vintage cars entered
mostly V8's though

the organizers won't allow any vintage car slower than a certain threshold to run...

It sounds like Jeff may be running in an open class though
its an expensive event
the practice windows are 1 run per a day for 2 or so days...

(they don't close the mountain for the days of practice... they have a couple of hours of closure from 5am -7am kinda thing)

then the race.

I think entry fee is around a grand.

it beats cars up bad..
you need to tap into the knowledge of the previous pikes peak community on tires.

Posted by: pete000 Apr 13 2012, 03:15 PM

Wow that is cool. I went around 10 years ago and it was fun a crazy Suzuki guy always has some insane rig there from Japan. And Rod Millan had a Toyota truck bodied indy car !

Wonder if the 914 entered is crazy modified?


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Posted by: Dave_Darling Apr 13 2012, 03:24 PM

Back in the late 1970s there were a number of "specials" built with 914-4 motors for Pike's Peak. Built by Garretson's in Mountain View CA.

And there were 914s running the Peak in the 70s as well.

--DD

Posted by: brant Apr 13 2012, 04:13 PM

Here is one of my clubs vintage guys running last year:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ0_qt3zqF4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtLlb59dx4E


its not an autox set up


p.s.
Pete000, I think I was there that year also
I know the tundra truck ran more than one year but I remember seeing the suzuki also.

b

Posted by: brant Apr 13 2012, 04:15 PM

Here are photo's also from last yearhttp://davephilipphoto.zenfolio.com/p593340692


I don't seem to be able to capture it and post it here...
but worth looking I promise

http://DavePhilipPhoto.zenfolio.com/p593340692/e14c4195b



Posted by: Scott S Apr 13 2012, 04:59 PM

It is very very fun. I have not been since probably 2000. Dont go up for the day - go the night before and camp. It is a blast.

Be preparred for snow - it is not all that rare for it to happen. Its amaizing how thin the air gets at the top of that mountain, it's WAY up there. I remember in the late 80's I thought something was really wrong with my little GTI - it would barely idle!

Fun stuff!! I still remember the Audi coupes - soooooo cool.

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Apr 13 2012, 05:01 PM

Is is very good for spectators? Is there a specific area for spectators or can you pretty much watch from where ever you like. I can't imagine it's like a european rallye where folks are situated all over the course.

Posted by: pete000 Apr 13 2012, 05:28 PM

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Is is very good for spectators? Is there a specific area for spectators or can you pretty much watch from where ever you like. I can't imagine it's like a european rallye where folks are situated all over the course.



You can go just about anywhere you can drive or hike to. Best vantage points you can see several turns.

Weather is really sketchy.
We went up the night before and slept in the back of my friends van.

Posted by: Vacca Rabite Apr 14 2012, 09:27 AM

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Here is one of my clubs vintage guys running last year:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ0_qt3zqF4



I love watching the big old cars race. :-) That Cuda was fun to watch.

My favorite pikes peak video, though...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGaYz5aLegc


Wish I had a high-rez copy of it...

zach


Posted by: brant Apr 14 2012, 09:58 AM

this is a great video also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8nptFx1jug

still its amazing what the vintage, rear wheel drive, heavy, old, all metal cars can do. My friend keith davidson has won the vintage class 2 or 3 years now in a ford falcon. I believe its still a 289 also! His time last year was 12:44 so I think its amazing that he is within 2 and a half minutes of the turbo/4wheel drive cars that are carbon fiber dedicated hill climb and ralley cars. His is just an old vintage track car that still has door panels and a dash!




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Posted by: OmaPossu Apr 14 2012, 10:52 AM

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this is a great video also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8nptFx1jug


Nice driving and that scenery is always thrilling to watch! Havent seen that clip of Marcus driving Pikes Peak. One grazy Finnish rally driver, ex world champpion.

Posted by: get off my lawn Apr 14 2012, 01:09 PM

Rod Millen's record-breaking celica was at laguna seca several years back at the monterey historics, I had a chance to check it out really well. Talk about trick.

That turbo suzuki monster barely beat Millen's record but only after they paved the top.
I attended a dinner that night after the historics with Mr. Millen and some guy named Ivan iron man. I think his last name was stewart or something like that.
Juan Fangio, Dave Jordan and Scooter Patrick were also there.
Awesome stories. Fangio had a very young and pretty girl hanging off his arm, evidently it was his neice. Their hotel room was right next to mine. They must have a VERY close family bs.gif

I still have an autographed picture of the shelby toyota S2000 they used to race signed by Scooter and Jones, and I didn't even have to ask for it!
Two of the coolest, neatest, most down to earth guys I've ever met.
The kind of guys you'd help move just so you could hang out with them.


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Posted by: get off my lawn Apr 14 2012, 01:16 PM

No, not that Fangio, Juan Fangio the II.
Dis guy, drove toyotas in IMSA and did pretty good. Arguably one of the most winningest cars ever. Won darn near every race it ever entered, and usually took 1st and 2nd :

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Winning at Road Atlanta and Mid-Ohio in the ’92 season’s first half, Davy Jones’ and his Jaguar would later be relegated to scrapping for second and third-place finishes with the likes of Geoff Brabham and Chip Robinson (Nissan NPT 91 A, B) Wayne Taylor and Tommy Kendall (Chevrolet Intrepids; by then two distinct teams) and Price Cobb (Mazda RX-792P). A talented pool of drivers to be sure and all of whom finished either second or third at one time or another in 1992, but also a clear testimonial to the AAR Eagle Toyota’s strengths, which closed the 1992 season winning nine of the 13 races on the schedule.

“Starting with the ’92 New Orleans race (that year’s seventh), (Dan) Gurney’s two (Eagle MKIII) Toyotas went on a seven race consecutive-win run, with either (Juan) Fangio (II) or P.J. Jones winning in the (Nos.) 99 or 98 (respectively), Raffauf said.

“Now, I don’t want to take anything away from someone like Dan Gurney, because before he gained access to the factory deal he clearly paid his dues in this sport and today remains one of its finest ambassadors, but in 1992 and 1993 the Toyota operation versus pretty much of the rest of the paddock was like a tank-on-tank shootout between a (WWII German) Tiger II tank and a Russian T-34.”

In 1993’s 11-round IMSA race season, excepting the July round at Road America and from which it was absent (some say it was due to “budgetary issues” whereas others say “purely political” reasons were the root cause), the AAR Eagle Toyota MkIII won every race in which it participated.

In seven of the 10 races which the Eagle won it likewise finished second. Another Eagle first place produced a third-place for the sister car. The worst finish of any Eagle in 1993 was at the end of Daytona’s Rolex 24, wherein the No. 99 Eagle of Fangio, Andy Wallace and Kenny Acheson finished 27th. Of course, on the same scale’s highest end was the No. 98 sister car (below, on the way to its 1993 Rolex 24 win), with drivers P.J. Jones, Rocky Moran and Mark Dismore – preserving the team’s ongoing win streak started at the 1992 New Orleans race.



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Posted by: 6freak Apr 14 2012, 06:29 PM

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I'm going to try and make it this year, my own backyard and I have never been sad.gif

REALLY! slap.gif

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Posted by: brant Apr 14 2012, 06:57 PM

look at all the snow on the side of the road in this one..
gotta wonder what the road temp is and how well those race tires are going to hold at below freezing road temps...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um78NHqBORI&feature=relmfu

Posted by: aircooledtechguy Apr 16 2012, 09:53 AM

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look at all the snow on the side of the road in this one..
gotta wonder what the road temp is and how well those race tires are going to hold at below freezing road temps...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um78NHqBORI&feature=relmfu


WOW, that thing handles WAY(!!!!!!) better than my '62 Ranchero. . . I would have been off the road by the first turn. . . second turn. (my little 'Chero wouldn't have built up enough speed to have a problem in the first turn av-943.gif )

Posted by: dlestep Apr 16 2012, 10:04 AM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Apr 13 2012, 04:34 PM) *

QUOTE(URY914 @ Apr 13 2012, 01:17 PM) *

I have always wondered if a 914 had ever been entered. I tried looking it up on several PP history sites and never found one. This could be the first!

Didn't Jeff Zwart run his 914-6 at Pikes Peak?

I vaguely remember seeing a video on youtube of him in the 914, somewhere in-between the million other videos of him ...
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I think that video of the 914/6 was a hillclimb "down under"

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 16 2012, 11:09 AM

QUOTE(dlestep @ Apr 16 2012, 09:04 AM) *
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Apr 13 2012, 04:34 PM) *
QUOTE(URY914 @ Apr 13 2012, 01:17 PM) *

I have always wondered if a 914 had ever been entered. I tried looking it up on several PP history sites and never found one. This could be the first!

Didn't Jeff Zwart run his 914-6 at Pikes Peak?

I vaguely remember seeing a video on youtube of him in the 914, somewhere in-between the million other videos of him ...
idea.gif

I think that video of the 914/6 was a hillclimb "down under"

I know that one ...

But i vaguely remember seeing one of him driving his 914 at Pikes Peak.
Or could be my Alzheimer kicking in.
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Posted by: moggy Apr 16 2012, 02:16 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Apr 16 2012, 09:09 AM) *

QUOTE(dlestep @ Apr 16 2012, 09:04 AM) *
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Apr 13 2012, 04:34 PM) *
QUOTE(URY914 @ Apr 13 2012, 01:17 PM) *

I have always wondered if a 914 had ever been entered. I tried looking it up on several PP history sites and never found one. This could be the first!

Didn't Jeff Zwart run his 914-6 at Pikes Peak?

I vaguely remember seeing a video on youtube of him in the 914, somewhere in-between the million other videos of him ...
idea.gif

I think that video of the 914/6 was a hillclimb "down under"

I know that one ...

But i vaguely remember seeing one of him driving his 914 at Pikes Peak.
Or could be my Alzheimer kicking in.
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Would love to give that little hill a try in a 914. Here's me attacking the 'real' Pikes Peak a few months back.... admittedly a bit slower than I would have liked in the uphill sections with my little 4 pot, but she gave it all she had biggrin.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaY8BZRGI7g

Posted by: Ferg Apr 16 2012, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(Ferg @ Apr 13 2012, 01:21 PM) *

I'm going to try and make it this year, my own backyard and I have never been sad.gif

REALLY! slap.gif

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Yes really, the road was dirt shades.gif FERG.gif

Posted by: Britain Smith Aug 8 2012, 08:37 PM

Check it out, I found a picture of the 914 running Pikes Peak this year. Looks heavily modified with center seat. I would love to get more pictures/info on this car.

-Britain

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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Aug 9 2012, 01:42 AM

My friend Julian owns the Lister driven by Rick Knoop in the exhibition class.
It's qualifying at #9 . It's a purpose built club racer with n/a Chevy power.
MacPhersons 914 is close, qualifying at #12 in the Pikes peak open class.
Rick says he can squeeze a bit more out of the Lister.The car is also doing Bonneville this year.

Posted by: sixnotfour Aug 9 2012, 03:16 AM

Driver Jeff MacPherson (Bozeman, Montana) is entered in the Pikes Peak Open Division and has strong credentials. He was 8th at the 1987 Indianapolis 500 won by Al Unser and won $117,000 for his top ten finish. MacPherson finished just ahead of Mario Andretti in the ’87 Indy 500. He’s driving a 1971 Porsche 914 on Pikes Peak this sumer.

http://www.usacracing.com/ppihc/news_ppihc/5210.html


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Posted by: sixnotfour Aug 9 2012, 03:29 AM

http://odysseyscoop.com/blog/2012/08/07/aio-takes-to-the-races/


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Posted by: sixnotfour Aug 9 2012, 03:50 AM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSeHQBuHc9k

Posted by: URY914 Aug 9 2012, 04:51 AM

So what part of that car is a 914? dry.gif

Posted by: dlestep Aug 9 2012, 08:17 AM

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So what part of that car is a 914? dry.gif

its' shadow at 3 o'clock

Posted by: Randal Aug 9 2012, 08:31 AM

QUOTE(Britain Smith @ Apr 13 2012, 01:21 PM) *

Nice.

Maybe I should enter my car....hmmm, it is all paved this year and I have a turbo!

-Britain




Do it!

Every hillclimber's dream.

Does you ECU compensation for altitude?

I mean there are some dramatic altitude changes on that road. They start higher up than any of the hills we run on the West Coast. The mountain is 14,110 and they gain 4,721 feet during the 156-turn course, so the start is above 9.300 feet.

No ECU compensator, no motor at the end.

Posted by: SirAndy Aug 9 2012, 11:46 AM

QUOTE(Britain Smith @ Aug 8 2012, 07:37 PM) *
Check it out, I found a picture of the 914 running Pikes Peak this year. Looks heavily modified with center seat. I would love to get more pictures/info on this car.

Not much 914 left on that thing ...
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Posted by: Britain Smith Aug 9 2012, 12:28 PM

Looks like double a-arm front suspension. Does anyone know what engine is in it? I would love to see more pictures under the bodywork. The paint and bodywork looks amazing!

-Britain

Posted by: Rod Aug 9 2012, 01:35 PM

It's a Corvette engine Britain, with ZO6 Brakes.

Posted by: pete000 Aug 9 2012, 09:40 PM

I would say 914 in appearance, just like John Force's car is Mustang in appearance.

Posted by: csdilligaf Aug 12 2012, 03:56 PM

More info on the car. Its LS6 powered with a G50/52 full tube chassis and C6 corvette suspension with Z06 rotors and calipers. Sheridan body and a real 914 windsheild frame and cowl with vin #. Jeff is a great guy and was really excited to put a car together for this hill climb. Glad to see he got it together in the nick of time. Had the race not been rescheduled he might not have made it. I have been checking on the results and have not seen anything on a time yet. Hope he does well.

Posted by: csdilligaf Aug 12 2012, 04:16 PM

Looks like PPIHC just listed some more times and Jeff Macpherson in a 914 ran 11:55.2

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Aug 12 2012, 06:51 PM

Rick Knoop drove Julians Chevy powered Lister to 10:56.240 for 1st place in exhibition class.
Not too shabby. The regular use of the Lister is club road racing.

Posted by: Randal Aug 12 2012, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Apr 16 2012, 09:09 AM) *

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QUOTE(URY914 @ Apr 13 2012, 01:17 PM) *

I have always wondered if a 914 had ever been entered. I tried looking it up on several PP history sites and never found one. This could be the first!

Didn't Jeff Zwart run his 914-6 at Pikes Peak?

I vaguely remember seeing a video on youtube of him in the 914, somewhere in-between the million other videos of him ...
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I think that video of the 914/6 was a hillclimb "down under"

I know that one ...

But i vaguely remember seeing one of him driving his 914 at Pikes Peak.
Or could be my Alzheimer kicking in.
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Would love to give that little hill a try in a 914. Here's me attacking the 'real' Pikes Peak a few months back.... admittedly a bit slower than I would have liked in the uphill sections with my little 4 pot, but she gave it all she had biggrin.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaY8BZRGI7g



You are having way to much fun. No way that event would ever happen in California.

Would you let us run there if we shipped over?

Posted by: PeeGreen 914 Aug 13 2012, 11:56 PM

At least it has a windshield and looks like a 914 piratenanner.gif

I love the look.

Posted by: billh1963 Aug 14 2012, 10:49 AM

Too dangerous for me!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEUrEPPABbY

Posted by: 7275914911 Aug 14 2012, 11:17 AM

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Surprised this is just now getting posted.....

Jeremy is a top SCCA National Tour event driver from the Dallas area. I have seen that car up close in Blytheville 2 years ago. I know some people in LR that are close friends with this guy. Amazing that these two basically walked away from this off course ride!!! Second year in a row that a car has went off on that same corner I believe...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7rVdS8Qnvb8

Posted by: perrysan Aug 15 2012, 10:58 AM

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Looks like PPIHC just listed some more times and Jeff Macpherson in a 914 ran 11:55.2


Found a short clip of Jeff's car going around a couple turns:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKYyrDDixuw&feature=player_detailpage#t=124s

Check out the tail dragger at the end of the clip - WOW.


Posted by: Richard Casto Aug 15 2012, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(csdilligaf @ Aug 12 2012, 06:16 PM) *

Looks like PPIHC just listed some more times and Jeff Macpherson in a 914 ran 11:55.2


Found a short clip of Jeff's car going around a couple turns:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKYyrDDixuw&feature=player_detailpage#t=124s

Check out the tail dragger at the end of the clip - WOW.

That 914 is low and wide! I liked the Freightliner hanging the rear out and laying some rubber! (rewind the video to 0:29 to see it). He needed more downforce. biggrin.gif

Richard

Posted by: Richard Casto Aug 15 2012, 01:03 PM

Have these been posted yet? Paul Dallenbach's crash (stuck throttle) in a 1400 HP twin turbo unlimited car...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnolSTQgy9Y



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2T0c-xDdwc



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpQtPhRDDs4


Dallenbach is OK. Some of those spectators should consider themselves lucky to alive.

Richard

Posted by: poorsche914 Aug 15 2012, 02:10 PM

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Posted by: rjames Aug 15 2012, 03:48 PM

Wow. There's no way I'd want to be standing anywhere near the road as a spectator.

Posted by: Vacca Rabite Aug 15 2012, 05:24 PM

At least not on the outside of a turn.

Zach

Posted by: URY914 Aug 16 2012, 04:54 AM

I found some "914" pics on line.....

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Here are a few more...

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Posted by: johannes Aug 16 2012, 09:05 AM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UETSyigLlm8



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDIpslSTV88

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Cool car and he was driving it about 7 tenths, which is about right for a new car on any hill.

I'd like to see Bill Cooper run PP. Pretty amazing driver that has the experience (and car) to go fast.

Posted by: byndbad914 Aug 16 2012, 11:08 AM

seeing this really makes me sad I didn't find out PP was paved to the top until registration was full. That would have been 2 Sheridan bodied V8 cars tearing up the hill! And I am not sure I know what 7/10s is, but according to my friends that is apparently how I drive to go to work so that might be the problem laugh.gif I wouldn't go 10/10s the first time tho' that is for sure, those slopes are more like cliffs as a few have found out the hard way.

After I start the Nova project over the winter I might put the engine and trans back in the 914 if the project is going too slow idea.gif

Posted by: Randal Aug 16 2012, 04:41 PM

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seeing this really makes me sad I didn't find out PP was paved to the top until registration was full. That would have been 2 Sheridan bodied V8 cars tearing up the hill! And I am not sure I know what 7/10s is, but according to my friends that is apparently how I drive to go to work so that might be the problem laugh.gif I wouldn't go 10/10s the first time tho' that is for sure, those slopes are more like cliffs as a few have found out the hard way.

After I start the Nova project over the winter I might put the engine and trans back in the 914 if the project is going too slow idea.gif



Ha, 10/10s is kind of like you drive an autox.

IMHO at PP with 156 corners it'll take a bit of time to learn the course. Even on our short courses out here (15-20 real corners) it takes a couple of years to start to feel like you know exactly what to do where. Once you get there you can go fast and stay on the hill.

What, 10:00 minutes up 12.5 miles is about 75mph average, but still that is fast considering 156 corners. Not far from what we average on the hillls out here.

Here is a nice smooth drive up the hill. The car is crazy fast, but he makes it look easy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y4camxSlVw

Or you can drive flat out like this blink.gif http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0pTT1VmOQ4

Posted by: jmacp Aug 20 2012, 10:33 AM

Hello 914 folk, I was directed to this site by a few of you.
The "Green Thing" at Pike's Peak this year is my car, purchased in February from one of you and then heavily modified into it's current configuration.
Let me say this, if you are ever offered to drive up a closed forest road above the treeline, going as fast as you want...just say yes!
Pike's Peak was an extraordinary experience to be sure.
Referencing some of your comments, this was a first year effort. My only communication to any other competitor was to Rod and Rhys Millen to ask about a gearing choice. The rest of the car we just took our best shot.
With very limited testing and development we put a good balance on the car and put it in the trailer.
What we need for next time is more power ie: forced induction, tbd. Given the time constraints we opted to run what we brung and use the stock LS6 with the Pantera "stacked" efi. Dyno runs and further tuning on the mountain gave us approximately 520 hp (corrected).
All in all, I view the effort as a success. The car developed a high speed loose during our run (approximately 30 degrees hotter ambient than our testing during the week) and when I arrived on top the road was drenched and steaming...sometimes difficult to see the centerline because of the steam...I chose to uncharacteristically ease up (I guess age does that) and just get it to the line without wiping off the smile.
You're right about Bill Cooper being a fast guy (just ask him) we spent all day yesterday parked next to one another at a car show here in Bozeman.
Thanks for the pictures and video, the best coverage is right here, jeff

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Posted by: seanery Aug 20 2012, 11:42 AM

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Posted by: flipb Aug 20 2012, 11:47 AM

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The "Green Thing" at Pike's Peak this year is my car, purchased in February from one of you and then heavily modified into it's current configuration.


Okay, the speed of the build obviously didn't leave time to document in a build thread, but would love to hear more about the project.

And congrats on doing something that most mere mortals dream about...

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Posted by: Randal Aug 20 2012, 12:19 PM

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Hello 914 folk, I was directed to this site by a few of you.
The "Green Thing" at Pike's Peak this year is my car, purchased in February from one of you and then heavily modified into it's current configuration.
Let me say this, if you are ever offered to drive up a closed forest road above the treeline, going as fast as you want...just say yes!
Pike's Peak was an extraordinary experience to be sure.
Referencing some of your comments, this was a first year effort. My only communication to any other competitor was to Rod and Rhys Millen to ask about a gearing choice. The rest of the car we just took our best shot.
With very limited testing and development we put a good balance on the car and put it in the trailer.
What we need for next time is more power ie: forced induction, tbd. Given the time constraints we opted to run what we brung and use the stock LS6 with the Pantera "stacked" efi. Dyno runs and further tuning on the mountain gave us approximately 520 hp (corrected).
All in all, I view the effort as a success. The car developed a high speed loose during our run (approximately 30 degrees hotter ambient than our testing during the week) and when I arrived on top the road was drenched and steaming...sometimes difficult to see the centerline because of the steam...I chose to uncharacteristically ease up (I guess age does that) and just get it to the line without wiping off the smile.
You're right about Bill Cooper being a fast guy (just ask him) we spent all day yesterday parked next to one another at a car show here in Bozeman.
Thanks for the pictures and video, the best coverage is right here, jeff



Congratulations on building a great car and successfully running Pikes Peak. To be honest all us NWHA guys aspire to do what you did. Great run. And running any hill being smart is fundamental.

The cool thing is that there aren't many 914 running the hills, but the ones that do have held up the side pretty well this year!

Wish you would bring that great car out to a few of the events on the West Coast.
Not quite Pikes Peak, but we have some great hills and our average times aren't bad.

I have been impressed with Cooper's driving after watching him run Cascade last year. He was just as fast in the wet as in the dry...which wouldn't mean much except he was TTOD.

Welcome to the World Site!

Posted by: bugsy0 Aug 20 2012, 12:24 PM

Jeff is my neighbor & friend - super great person, super car. Pic below is at the local "cruzin on main" show in Bozeman this past weekend.
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Posted by: URY914 Aug 20 2012, 02:12 PM

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Now we need more pictures. biggrin.gif

How about some with the body work off? Please! smile.gif

Posted by: jmacp Aug 20 2012, 10:02 PM

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Well...since you asked, here is a photo of the day I bought the car. The previous owner had jumped in and declared " I need to drive it one more time"...
The results were quite similar to actions preceded by the words "watch this".
Amazingly, other than ego issues, no harm done...?
This was February of this year, I had already ordered and paid for the 914 bodywork and then watched the car sever a power pole...

Posted by: jmacp Aug 20 2012, 10:21 PM

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Later that week, much of the original roll cage and other non essentials have been removed...

Posted by: jmacp Aug 20 2012, 10:30 PM

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...and still later that week we get an idea of where the new roll cage can be and still retain the 914 appearance...

Posted by: Richard Casto Aug 21 2012, 07:04 AM

Jeff, if you have the time, keep the photos and details coming. We all find it very interesting. And the power poll photo... Wow!

Richard

Posted by: jmacp Aug 21 2012, 08:21 AM

QUOTE(Richard Casto @ Aug 21 2012, 07:04 AM) *

Jeff, if you have the time, keep the photos and details coming. We all find it very interesting. And the power poll photo... Wow!

Richard

You bet Richard...but it may be a week or so...I leave today to drive a handicap Honda Minivan from Minneapolis to SanJose for a relative. It ought to be exciting...

Posted by: Randal Aug 21 2012, 08:35 PM

QUOTE(jmacp @ Aug 21 2012, 07:21 AM) *

QUOTE(Richard Casto @ Aug 21 2012, 07:04 AM) *

Jeff, if you have the time, keep the photos and details coming. We all find it very interesting. And the power poll photo... Wow!

Richard

You bet Richard...but it may be a week or so...I leave today to drive a handicap Honda Minivan from Minneapolis to SanJose for a relative. It ought to be exciting...



Let all us teeners know when your coming and we'll buy you lunch at one of our great place.

Posted by: SirAndy Aug 21 2012, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(jmacp @ Aug 21 2012, 07:21 AM) *
You bet Richard...but it may be a week or so...I leave today to drive a handicap Honda Minivan from Minneapolis to SanJose for a relative. It ought to be exciting...



Let all us teeners know when your coming and we'll buy you lunch at one of our great place.

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Posted by: Britain Smith Jun 27 2013, 11:08 AM

Looks like he is back at Pikes Peak this year.

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Posted by: McMark Jun 27 2013, 11:17 AM

I would LOVE to crawl around that car. Lotsa cool stuff going on I'm sure.

Took me a second to figure out those bumps on the hood are for wheel/tire clearance. yikes.gif
And the targa bar is lower making the roof raked. Sweet!

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Jun 27 2013, 12:02 PM

Holy krap! No guard rails! w00t.gif Not even one of these to keep you from going over and DOWN! lol-2.gif


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Posted by: brant Jun 27 2013, 12:09 PM

guard rails?

what are those?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on3RxOpGNYA


Posted by: sixnotfour Jun 27 2013, 12:47 PM

2013 practice


Posted by: effutuo101 Jun 28 2013, 07:38 AM

That was cool!

Posted by: bugsy0 Jun 28 2013, 01:31 PM

smilie_pokal.gif Way cool video, Jeff!
So does anybody know if this is the first 914 to run at Pikes Peak?

Posted by: Dave_Darling Jun 28 2013, 06:38 PM

A custom tube-frame race car won Pike's Peak running a 914 engine waaaaay back when. I wish I could remember the year. And the class.

--DD

Posted by: sixnotfour Jun 28 2013, 08:00 PM

Really Dave did you not read Andy's post...It is 2013...try and stay current/// go 2013 914-8

Posted by: Dave_Darling Jun 28 2013, 10:00 PM

No, I mean in the 80s, possibly the 70s. Running a Type IV engine, as used in the four-cylinder 914 cars.

--DD

Posted by: DBCooper Jul 1 2013, 03:45 PM

I needed some motorcycle parts last week but my guy was at Pikes Peak as the suspension specialist for the Lightning electric motorcycle. Turns out they were the fastest motorcycle this year, beating all the gasburners and 20 seconds faster than the second place Ducati. That's the first time any kind of electric vehicle's been the fastest up the hill.

When I was looking up their results I saw that a four wheel drive Peugeot 208 with a twin turbo V6 was fastest overall this year, beating the previous best time by almost 45 seconds. Good Lowered. Car has more than 1 hp per kilo of weight.

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Posted by: yeahmag Jul 1 2013, 04:01 PM

I believe that was Sebastian Loeb of WRC fame in the Red Bull car.

Posted by: URY914 Jul 1 2013, 06:10 PM

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No, I mean in the 80s, possibly the 70s. Running a Type IV engine, as used in the four-cylinder 914 cars.

--DD


Rick Mears drove a IV powered buggy in 1976 I believe. I'll dig up a pic of it.

Posted by: URY914 Jul 1 2013, 06:14 PM

I was wrong..............it was 1975. biggrin.gif

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Posted by: Dave_Darling Jul 1 2013, 06:46 PM

Thanks, that is exactly the car I meant! smile.gif

Prepared by Garretson's, I do believe.

--DD

Posted by: URY914 Jul 1 2013, 08:54 PM

This one has been restored recently....

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Posted by: jt914-6 Jul 1 2013, 09:07 PM

2013 Jeff Zwart practice....a former 914-6 race car driver....film maker....photographer....

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Posted by: Britain Smith Jul 2 2013, 03:33 PM

That guy is lucky he still has legs.

-Britain

Posted by: jmacp Apr 23 2014, 09:48 PM

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Here is the 2014 power plant and driveline.
Something much more interesting, 492 CI LS based, 2800 rpm/600lb torque, 900+hp!

Posted by: 2mAn Apr 23 2014, 11:06 PM

I need to attend this one day.

Posted by: Cracker Dec 27 2015, 12:21 AM

How in the world do you get a 914 to hook up that much power?

Tony

QUOTE(jmacp @ Apr 23 2014, 10:48 PM) *

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Here is the 2014 power plant and driveline.
Something much more interesting, 492 CI LS based, 2800 rpm/600lb torque, 900+hp!


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