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Posted by: Rav914 Apr 16 2012, 02:39 PM

Have you made your own steel brake lines? I broke one yesterday working on the hell-hole (the long one for the passenger rear). I did some research and it looks fairly straightforward, just need to buy the proper tools and practice.

But before I do, or PM bdstone914 for spare parts, I thought I'd query the local brain trust.

Thanks,
Nate

Posted by: McMark Apr 16 2012, 02:44 PM

Yeah, you can make your own. I've done it a few times. The cheapie tools are a PITA, but do work. http://www.eastwood.com/tubing-flaring-kit-double-single.html.

I want to pick up one of these sometime soon. http://www.eastwood.com/professional-brake-tubing-flaring-tool.html

Posted by: Vacca Rabite Apr 16 2012, 04:32 PM

I made many of the lines on my car using the enameled green lines from NAPA. It's not hard at all.

Zach

Posted by: ape914 Apr 16 2012, 04:37 PM

Get a bender and flare tool. make sure the flare is exactly the same type you're replaceng, there are some variation in flare styles.
Easy process for a skilled mechanical type of person.

Hint. Practice some flares and bends on some spare tubing (buy some extra for this) always good even for experienced folks to brush up if it has been a while.

Posted by: Matt Romanowski Apr 16 2012, 04:41 PM

Summit Racing has the one Mark linked to for $50 less.

But they are all amatuer hour compared to this http://www.amazon.com/MasterCool-Universal-Hydraulic-Flaring-Tool/dp/B00063YR2I

Posted by: jmill Apr 16 2012, 05:54 PM

I've replaced all the brake lines on several cars and have the snap-on single and double flare kit. I can't do the bubble flare with my kit.

Bubble flare is on the right.




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Posted by: Rav914 Apr 16 2012, 06:03 PM

Sweet! Thanks for the inputs. Looking forward to the process.

Posted by: rick 918-S Apr 16 2012, 06:06 PM

Done it!


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Posted by: jmill Apr 16 2012, 06:57 PM

On a side note I bought the brake lines from NAPA in the longest lengths I could. Usually the fittings are different. It doesn't matter as long as the line size is correct. Cut of the ends slide your fitting on (they have those too) and then flare and bend it.

Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Apr 17 2012, 07:57 AM

Stores such as NAPA, Carquest, and others, sell brake lines with the correct fittings. Why would you buy the wrong ones, cut them up, and change the ends? I'm having a hard time understanding the thinking behind that one.

The Cap'n

Posted by: PRS914-6 Apr 17 2012, 08:43 AM

Before you criticize, think it through..... .....

Napa sells pre-made lines in specific lengths, typically in 1 foot increments at our store. Sometimes they are just right and other times there is no close match. The difference in price between their longest line and shortest line is next to nothing. You buy the longest line, leave one end alone, bend it to the shape you want and then cut off the excess and flare it. The left over can be used for a shorter length by using the ends off your old lines. You get two perfect new lines for the price of one. Us cheap bastards understand these things......I did my entire car this exact way including the hydraulic clutch and it saved quite a bit.

Posted by: jmill Apr 17 2012, 08:55 AM

You point is a valid one. If they have them with the diameter, length and fitting type you desire your all set.

Unfortunately, the availability of off the shelf parts is dependant on your location. Racine, WI lacks the large number of tuners and hot rodders to support a decent inventory at most auto supply stores. When I built my 53 Chevy, which I later sold to Pepsi, the longest length available of the shelf in the diameter I required had the wrong size fittings. To avoid special ordering parts or adding additional fittings and potential leaks I chose to buy the long lengths and replace the fittings. Fittings are easily changed, adding length and changing line diameter not so easy (which was my point.)




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Posted by: worn Apr 17 2012, 10:00 AM

In my case the store had only sizes that were either too long or too short. I hadn't learned to make the flares so I bought too long (a matter of inches) and made some bends to take up the excess. If I did it again, I would cut to proper length and make the flares myself.

Posted by: Valy Apr 17 2012, 04:09 PM

Buy something like this. Just make sure they have the right connector size.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Metal-brake-lines-Porsche-1964-1965-1966-1967-1968-1969-1970-1971-1972-1994-/300694651281?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item4602cc4191#ht_5844wt_864
http://www.ebay.com/itm/18-piece-brake-line-kit-BMW-VW-Porsche-Mercedes-replace-rusted-lines-/380422329269?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item5892f013b5#ht_5396wt_864

Posted by: sixnotfour Apr 17 2012, 05:31 PM

rdauenhauer probably has ten of them. He is in mill creek

Posted by: uncle smokey Apr 17 2012, 07:36 PM

I just did this for my truck. AutoZone had a roll of line, I think 25 feet, for about 25 bucks. All in with the fittings it was maybe 40 bucks.

Posted by: strawman Apr 18 2012, 10:51 PM

I'm a big proponent of Cunifer lines and fittings from http://store.fedhillusa.com/cnf3.aspx The stuff is virtually impossible to kink, and it won't rust. I also bought the fittings from FedHill, and used a standard Crafstman double-flare system that I bought for ~$50; with that flaring tool, you perform the first flare and then don't perform the second/double flare. Thanks to McMark for that tip...

See post #177 of http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=83031&st=100 for details.

Now I just gotta close on my new house (in June!) here in SLO, get my project out of storage, and get it running!

Geoff

Posted by: pilothyer Apr 19 2012, 10:26 AM

Try this link ........ full set fittings and all.........pre cut and finished ends.
http://austinhealeywood.com/brakelines.html