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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ Gauging interest. Bi-xenon headlight conversion kit.
Posted by: Chris914n6 Apr 19 2012, 02:23 AM
So 10 years ago I designed a low profile popup headlight kit using the Hella 90mm housings. Didn't have the all tools to produce them. Now I do. But times have changed and bi-xenon housings are readily available. Plus, 1 will do the job of 2 and fit A LOT neater.
Package would include a pair of FX-R bi-xenon projectors, custom powder-coated headlight structures, formed lexan shrouds, and a few other pieces to make it a quality product. Raised headlight height will be about 1/2 stock. (Sleepy eyes for you s13 owners lol)
Price will be about $350-400.
You will still need D2S bulbs and ballasts. New kits run about $70 for DDM, $160 for Morimoto, and $250 for Philips & Mitsu OEM stuff.OR
Also been working on a design for the turn signal location. Hi Felix 
Using the Mini projectors, LED panels for the park/turn lights, Lexan cover, housing. Hoping to get the D2S version to fit so it can use the Awesome and Almost as Awesome bulb/ballast setups. Still labor intensive enough to put the price in the $350-400 range.
LASTLY
Also brainstormed a LED replacement for the side marker. Less wart, more pimple lol. Looking to be about $100/pr if the idea pans out.
Posted by: billh1963 Apr 19 2012, 04:49 AM
I will watch this thread with interest! I might be interested depending on how close to stock (cosmetically) the final solution turns out.
Posted by: tracer Apr 19 2012, 06:24 AM
I would be on board for this change. Do you have any pictures of the finished working system you are proposing?
Posted by: carr914 Apr 19 2012, 06:37 AM
Also watching
Posted by: rnellums Apr 19 2012, 07:29 AM
VERY interested in a headlight for the turn signal location. If you develop a kit for this I WILL buy it.
-Ross
Posted by: effutuo101 Apr 19 2012, 07:49 AM
Pictures?
Posted by: matthepcat Apr 19 2012, 08:46 AM
I am always interested in this stuff. I am a fan of unconventional, and I like the sleepy eye concept.
Posted by: kg6dxn Apr 19 2012, 09:37 AM
Interested. Need to see a mock up.
Posted by: falconfp2001 Apr 19 2012, 11:50 AM
Very interested. ![popcorn[1].gif](style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
By half Height, do you mean to modify the Headlight so it only opens half height? The way the headlight motors and relays are designed, they would have to fully cycle to open so how would you keep the motor from doing this?
While working on mine I once blew a fuse because the motor could not fully cycle to its stop position. Would be cool to have only a few inches open just don't see it happening easily.
Posted by: matthepcat Apr 19 2012, 12:00 PM
Probably will not use factory motors.....or motors at all(thats how I would do it).
Or maybe linear actuators.
Very interested.
By half Height, do you mean to modify the Headlight so it only opens half height? The way the headlight motors and relays are designed, they would have to fully cycle to open so how would you keep the motor from doing this?
While working on mine I once blew a fuse because the motor could not fully cycle to its stop position. Would be cool to have only a few inches open just don't see it happening easily.
Posted by: McMark Apr 19 2012, 01:29 PM
I did that with factory motors and bi-xenon. 
Posted by: Chris914n6 Apr 19 2012, 01:45 PM
Questions to date...
Pics- I find the brainstorming part fun, lots of doodles, sourced components I would use, but haven't invested the many hours or dollars to prototype it or jigs. Probably 2 weeks for the frame and another 2 weeks for the molding bucks. Plus a week for the hard parts to get here.
Motors- Uses stock motor setup. Just needed to change lever geometry.
Fog lights- Got a PM about adding fog lights to the popups. Anyone else into that possibility?
Original Hella fitting.
Posted by: JmuRiz Apr 19 2012, 07:42 PM
I'm watching too, I'm a fan of modern tech in an old package...sometimes it pays to buy a non original car 
914/8 style duals would be cool, but I guess that'd need a new hood shape...so stock headlight covers would be best.
Posted by: Chris914n6 Apr 23 2012, 12:05 AM
Looks like enough interest to move forward, so this weekend I did a mock-up and started blueprinting. Ordering hard parts Monday. Raised height about 4 1/2".
Posted by: rnellums Apr 23 2012, 07:09 AM
Looks good. Shoot me a PM if you get around to making them for mount in the turn signal housing!
-Ross
Posted by: jimsfolly May 25 2012, 05:37 PM
So 10 years ago I designed a low profile popup headlight kit using the Hella 90mm housings. Didn't have the all tools to produce them. Now I do. But times have changed and bi-xenon housings are readily available. Plus, 1 will do the job of 2 and fit A LOT neater.
Package would include a pair of FX-R bi-xenon projectors, custom powder-coated headlight structures, formed lexan shrouds, and a few other pieces to make it a quality product. Raised headlight height will be about 1/2 stock. (Sleepy eyes for you s13 owners lol)
Price will be about $350-400.
You will still need D2S bulbs and ballasts. New kits run about $70 for DDM, $160 for Morimoto, and $250 for Philips & Mitsu OEM stuff.
Also been working on a design for the turn signal location. Hi Felix
Using the Mini projectors, LED panels for the park/turn lights, Lexan cover, housing. Hoping to get the D2S version to fit so it can use the Awesome and Almost as Awesome bulb/ballast setups. Still labor intensive enough to put the price in the $350-400 range.LASTLY
Also brainstormed a LED replacement for the side marker. Less wart, more pimple lol. Looking to be about $100/pr if the idea pans out.
Trying to be patient waiting for update on progress, I was going to do the dual 60mm hella setup but i've got more money than time.....
Posted by: smj May 25 2012, 06:23 PM
I'm watching too, I'm a fan of modern tech in an old package...sometimes it pays to buy a non original car
Amen, brother!
I'm very interested, I think these would look great with the slant nose on my -6. Torn about incorporating the fogs, I generally like the option of running them without having to pop up the mains.
Posted by: kerensky May 25 2012, 09:37 PM
Highly interested in this mod.
Posted by: Chris914n6 May 25 2012, 10:31 PM
You know the quick times were to keep me motivated and not for you right lol. The Universe honors no plans. Took 3 weeks to get parts as I timed the order right during industry week. Can't find a local supplier for the 5/8" .095 DOM cross tube... luckily I don't need much because it's costing triple. Everything else is coming together. Have a paper template and the design is done. Just need to build one and real world test it.
I also worked out a deal to get electronics, so I can do a discounted package.
Here are some teaser pics from when the lights first got here. Chrome shroud optional. Tape over lens so I don't scratch 'em.
Double light/fog. Also the same lights for the turn sig setup if that gets more interest.
Posted by: smj May 31 2012, 02:06 AM
Thinking about this a little more, the dual headlight/foglight setup might be a good option for the earlier cars where the headlights are always raised when the running lights are turned on. (At least, that's the case with my -6...)
Posted by: Harpo May 31 2012, 11:46 AM
I'm interested in the led side marker that is less wart like
Thanks
David
Posted by: Chris914n6 Jun 1 2012, 09:17 PM
About that side marker... I took mine off so long ago I forgot they didn't blink, so it's kinda over spec'd lol. So it's currently up in the air if and how I tackle it.
smj- I'm making a set for someone and have no problem making another or 2 or 20. I ended up with a 2 piece frame so it's not that involved as originally anticipated.
Though... it sounds like you have a wire crossed on your switch. All the cars I've played with function: off >> park on >> raise hl & on. Then pushing in it's: all on >> hl off >> park off & hl down.
There is also the option of DRL. I can do the halo rings like the BMWs.
Posted by: kerensky Jun 1 2012, 11:01 PM
Posted by: smj Jun 2 2012, 01:53 AM
smj- I'm making a set for someone and have no problem making another or 2 or 20. I ended up with a 2 piece frame so it's not that involved as originally anticipated.
Groovy - I'll just have to make another of those whatchacallums... "decisions" ... no problem.
Though I gotta say, this is probably not going to be the most cost effective way to get around that one %$#! headlight retaining ring screw that's rusted tight into place...
Though... it sounds like you have a wire crossed on your switch. All the cars I've played with ...
A wire crossed on one of my cars? Something less than factory original?? That, sir, is simply unpossible!
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