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Posted by: Pdr1787 Jun 7 2012, 12:59 AM
Bought new clutch cable, pulley, t.o. Bearing, preassure plate the pushing in the shift fork and I still have lost half pedal play. The cable is adjusted all the way. What else could it be? I check the pedal assembly and it seems fine. Any advice???
Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 7 2012, 01:09 AM
did you replace the ball stud clip and the 2 throw out bearing clips?
k
Posted by: Dr Evil Jun 7 2012, 08:24 AM
Just because you have run out of threads on the adjustment at the end of the cable does not mean you are fully adjusted. It is often that the cable end needs a piece of short pipe under the nut to add to the adjustment.
The big question is, did it work before the parts change? That tells us a lot.
Posted by: walterolin Jun 7 2012, 09:24 AM
Has the clutch cable tube separated from the firewall. When mine separated I wasn't bright enough to figure it out, so I started adding
washers to the threaded end as Dr. E suggested.
The better question, though, is "did it work before", and if so what is differnt now.
Posted by: spunone Jun 7 2012, 10:20 AM
what size pipe do ya use?
Posted by: Dr Evil Jun 7 2012, 11:06 AM
Well, technically it would be tubing. I use what ever fits around the threads. 7/16" IIRC.
Posted by: Pdr1787 Jun 7 2012, 01:55 PM
What happened first was my clutch cable snapped. I replaced the cable and everything was fine for about a week. I was pullin into a gas station, tried to put it in first when I felt a pop. There was still some pedal play but not enough to engage it in gear without grinding the gears. Since then I have replaced all that I have mentioned expect for the retainer clip and the t.o. Bearing clips. I'm running out of ideas now....
Posted by: Pdr1787 Jun 7 2012, 01:59 PM
I'm going to check the clutch cable tube. I also don't know what you mean about adding a piece of tubing.
Posted by: brant Jun 7 2012, 02:13 PM
the comment about a piece of tubing is:
on the end of the cable where you tighten the adjusting nuts
often at the end of the threaded portion people do not have enough adjustment.
by placing a piece of tubing or a stack of washers between the cable "fork" and the adjustment nuts you tighten up the cable further...
however:
if you had your clutch adjusted correctly and working
and then something popped....
that is probably not indicative of needing a stack of washers added.
that is more like something broke
likely the clutch tube
athough it could of been other things....
brant
Posted by: LotusJoe Jun 7 2012, 03:39 PM
I'm sure you have already thought of this but the nuts on the threaded end of the clutch cable are 11mm or M7 thread. A M8 will thread on and seem tight but will eventually come loose. 
Posted by: Strudelwagon Jun 7 2012, 03:46 PM
Just because you have run out of threads on the adjustment at the end of the cable does not mean you are fully adjusted. It is often that the cable end needs a piece of short pipe under the nut to add to the adjustment.
The big question is, did it work before the parts change? That tells us a lot.
Dr. Evil, You Rock! You answered the question before I even asked it. My friggin reverse was grinding a little and I figure a few more threads might help.
"Just because you have run out of threads on the adjustment at the end of the cable does not mean you are fully adjusted"
Lets hope that's the problem....Thanks
SW
Posted by: Dr Evil Jun 7 2012, 03:53 PM
Yes, and that info of something breaking was not available when I made the spacer recommendation. It does sound like the tube popped.
Posted by: Jeffs9146 Jun 7 2012, 04:19 PM
You can also adjust the bracket on the front of the clutch cable! If the bracket wasn't tightened up enough! It is a bit more work than just adding a spacer but it is the "correct" way to add threads to the back!
Posted by: Strudelwagon Jun 7 2012, 05:38 PM
You can also adjust the bracket on the front of the clutch cable! If the bracket wasn't tightened up enough! It is a bit more work than just adding a spacer but it is the "correct" way to add threads to the back!
Jeff, do you mean in the tunnel at the pedal cluster?
Steve
Posted by: Jeffs9146 Jun 7 2012, 05:51 PM
Yes, make sure it is all the way on at the cluster! I have seen people not screw it all the way in.
Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 8 2012, 08:25 AM
the bracket, or clevis, adj procedure is detailed on pgs 70/71 section #5 of your haynes.
k
Posted by: euro911 Jun 8 2012, 11:25 AM
The 'pop' does sound like the clutch tube may have busted loose in the tunnel.
Posted by: Jeffs9146 Jun 8 2012, 12:51 PM
Sounds like that to me!!!
Posted by: Dr Evil Jun 8 2012, 05:20 PM
Question, did the cable come out in two pieces? Pop and one piece = tube broke free. Pop and two pieces = cable broke (and maybe the cable broke free).
Posted by: brant Jun 8 2012, 06:35 PM
any updates?
there is always the chance that the new cable wasn't seated on the firewall entrance.... and the pop was it seating....
just being hopeful
get under there and look things over.
pull the center arm rest and open up the tunnel
get us an update on what you find.
brant
Posted by: Pdr1787 Jun 10 2012, 01:23 PM
The clutch cable tube is still connected to the firewall... It seems fine. Maybe it broke father down the tunnel? I'm going to add some washers and see if that is a good enough fix.
Posted by: brant Jun 10 2012, 02:44 PM
I think its most commonly inside the tunnel where they break loose...
hard to see, you have to pull the armrest, and tunnel covers
flashlight, and sometimes a mirror.
brant
Posted by: Dr Evil Jun 10 2012, 04:49 PM
It is easiest to check buy pulling the shifter out and looking from that opening.
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