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Posted by: pbob42 Jun 11 2012, 05:13 PM

$180 for a retro fuel pump. Will any 40+ psi in/out/return fuel pump work? '73 914 2.0

Posted by: ClayPerrine Jun 11 2012, 05:31 PM


Here is a simple, easy to find replacement.

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/AIX0/E8445.oap?ck=Search_N0515_-1_-1&pt=N0515&ppt=C0128

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Airtex E8445 is the part number.

Inlet and outlet sizes are 5/16 so there is no adapters required.

I bought it at O'Reilley for 114.99. It has been running on Betty's L-Jet 74 for about a year now. It works great, and is available at most FLAPS.

Considering the D-Jet and the L-Jet use the same fuel pump, I figure it will work fine with the D-Jet too.


Posted by: 914_teener Jun 11 2012, 05:56 PM

ohhh...I wouldn't use those hose clamps.

I use a similar 2 port pump. works fine on my D-jet.

Posted by: pbob42 Jun 11 2012, 06:16 PM

QUOTE(914_teener @ Jun 11 2012, 04:56 PM) *

ohhh...I wouldn't use those hose clamps.

I use a similar 2 port pump. works fine on my D-jet.


What do you do with the third line? Return line right?

Posted by: JawjaPorsche Jun 11 2012, 06:38 PM

I assume the pump you have now is a three prong pump? If so, the new pumps only have two prongs. Get rid of the plastic Y hose connector. Only one return line to the fuel tank.



QUOTE(pbob42 @ Jun 11 2012, 08:16 PM) *

QUOTE(914_teener @ Jun 11 2012, 04:56 PM) *

ohhh...I wouldn't use those hose clamps.

I use a similar 2 port pump. works fine on my D-jet.


What do you do with the third line? Return line right?


Posted by: pbob42 Jun 11 2012, 06:43 PM

QUOTE(JawjaPorsche @ Jun 11 2012, 05:38 PM) *

I assume the pump you have now is a three prong pump? If so, the new pumps only have two prongs. Get rid of the plastic Y hose connector. Only one return line to the fuel tank.



QUOTE(pbob42 @ Jun 11 2012, 08:16 PM) *

QUOTE(914_teener @ Jun 11 2012, 04:56 PM) *

ohhh...I wouldn't use those hose clamps.

I use a similar 2 port pump. works fine on my D-jet.


What do you do with the third line? Return line right?



gotcha

Posted by: swl Jun 11 2012, 08:15 PM

QUOTE(pbob42 @ Jun 11 2012, 08:16 PM) *

QUOTE(914_teener @ Jun 11 2012, 04:56 PM) *

ohhh...I wouldn't use those hose clamps.

I use a similar 2 port pump. works fine on my D-jet.


What do you do with the third line? Return line right?

The third line on the three port tees into the return line. In two port the return line just goes straight back to the tank. The three port design helps in priming by shunting any air from the supply to the return. It also serves as over pressure pop off.

Posted by: Katmanken Jun 11 2012, 08:49 PM

I don't know why you would screw with another pump when the Bosch pumps are so robust and reliable, and don't cost a lot more

Here's Bus Depot's price on the inline pump used in the EFI Beetle, Bus, and Vanagon, and works great on a 914.

Bus Depot does european trips, and buys either from the auto maker, or buys from the OEM parts manufacturer that supplied the parts to the auto makers assembly line.

They have a Pierburg for $280 and a Bosch for $149. Both were supplied by VW on new Vanagons. I've used both and they look and run the same.

http://www.busdepot.com/view.jsp?model=58&category=21&group=-1&prodgroup=-1

Posted by: ClayPerrine Jun 12 2012, 05:49 AM

QUOTE(Katmanken @ Jun 11 2012, 09:49 PM) *

I don't know why you would screw with another pump when the Bosch pumps are so robust and reliable, and don't cost a lot more

Here's Bus Depot's price on the inline pump used in the EFI Beetle, Bus, and Vanagon, and works great on a 914.

Bus Depot does european trips, and buys either from the auto maker, or buys from the OEM parts manufacturer that supplied the parts to the auto makers assembly line.

They have a Pierburg for $280 and a Bosch for $149. Both were supplied by VW on new Vanagons. I've used both and they look and run the same.

http://www.busdepot.com/view.jsp?model=58&category=21&group=-1&prodgroup=-1


I was unaware of bus depot.

Most of the "OEM" pumps people were getting were Chinese knock offs, and very poor quality and had to be ordered and shipped. Plus they were charging upwards of $400.00 for them. The Peerburg is a very good pump, but it still requires shipping.

The pump I put in this thread is available by walking into Pep Boys, O'Reilly, or Autozone and giving them the part number. If they don't have it, they can get it in a few hours, or if it's a Sunday, the next day. That can be beneficial if you are stranded in BFE with a dead fuel pump.


Posted by: pbob42 Jun 12 2012, 08:06 AM

Picked it up last night - removing the "y" connection, putting in a new fuel filter up stream and an EFI fuel filter down stream ( just to protect the injectors). Thanks for the help.

Posted by: Katmanken Jun 12 2012, 08:37 AM

Well, I did put one of those Autozone pumps in my daughters Volvo because she was desperate to get it running "RIGHT NOW" and I was a bit underwhelmed by the quality. When I fired it up, it made as much whining noise as my Bosch pump did right before it crapped out from being fed ground up metal and clay from a bad load of gas. Daughter hated the noise, felt it would leave her stranded, and sold the car.


Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Jun 12 2012, 11:04 AM

QUOTE(Katmanken @ Jun 11 2012, 07:49 PM) *

I don't know why you would screw with another pump when the Bosch pumps are so robust and reliable, and don't cost a lot more

Here's Bus Depot's price on the inline pump used in the EFI Beetle, Bus, and Vanagon, and works great on a 914.

Bus Depot does european trips, and buys either from the auto maker, or buys from the OEM parts manufacturer that supplied the parts to the auto makers assembly line.

They have a Pierburg for $280 and a Bosch for $149. Both were supplied by VW on new Vanagons. I've used both and they look and run the same.

http://www.busdepot.com/view.jsp?model=58&category=21&group=-1&prodgroup=-1



In 32 years of working on Vanagons, I've never seen an OE installed Pierberg fuel pump. Of course, I haven't seen ALL the Vanagons, but I have seen a significant number of them. They do make a good pump, but they're expensive and the Bosch ones seem to work fine and last a long time. As for a filter after the pump as mentioned elsewhere in this thread, you better be absolutely sure it's rated for 30PSI and more. 40-50 would be better.

The Cap'n

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