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Posted by: Jenny May 12 2003, 10:13 AM

Turns out the car looked much better than originally anticipated!! Here's some pics...

trunk looked the best...


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Posted by: Jenny May 12 2003, 10:14 AM

trunk


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Posted by: Jenny May 12 2003, 10:18 AM

longs


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Posted by: Jenny May 12 2003, 10:19 AM

longs


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Posted by: ! May 12 2003, 10:19 AM

So when does it RUN, Mrs. Mueller?????

Posted by: Jenny May 12 2003, 10:21 AM

engine bay


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Posted by: Jenny May 12 2003, 10:21 AM

look, battery tray still in tact!!


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Posted by: Jenny May 12 2003, 10:26 AM

the non-chemically stripped portion of the car...


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Posted by: Jenny May 12 2003, 10:28 AM

never knew this spot held water. Sir Andy pointed it out and promptly took a drill bit to it!


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Posted by: Jenny May 12 2003, 10:40 AM

floor pans... Looks bad, but they hold water


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Posted by: Jenny May 12 2003, 10:44 AM

car all packed up and ready for more cleaning next week. Note the new wheels!!


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Posted by: Lawrence914-6 May 12 2003, 10:56 AM

Looks like you've found a nice solid car... congrats on the cleanup!

-Rusty

Posted by: Jenny May 12 2003, 11:20 AM

Thanks Rusty! I'm getting really excited about it. Hopefully I can get the engine compartment clean by next weekend, and B can get going on transplanting the motor and tranny after that. Then, I'm planning on bribing some bay area folk into helping me move everything else from the orange car to the silver one. If I can get 4 people that are 914 savvy to help, I think we can have it assembled in one weekend! Wishful thinking??

Jen

Posted by: anthony May 12 2003, 11:21 AM

Why don't you get it painted before moving all the parts over? Wouldn't that make things a lot easier?

Posted by: Jenny May 12 2003, 11:29 AM

Well, I'm not going for a Yeaman paint, more of a Maaco paint. :toilet:

I'll get it painted as stripped down as they'll let me get. But I'm pretty sure they'll want the car running. I'll ask Brad what is the least we can do to still get it painted.

Jen

Posted by: Jeffs9146 May 12 2003, 11:33 AM

What color are you thinking about!

Silver is sweet and it will be easier for you in the long run!!

Jeff

Posted by: Jenny May 12 2003, 11:45 AM

Brad discourages color changes (rock chips will show the old color) so I think I'll be staying with silver. Besides, the rims match perfectly!!

Jen

Posted by: Jenny May 12 2003, 11:46 AM

By the way, can anyone point me to the thread about getting car paint in a spray can so I can paint the engine bay myself?

Thanks,

Jen

Posted by: Lawrence914-6 May 12 2003, 11:50 AM

There are a lot of really nice shades/tones of silver. That's one color you can change the shade and it won't show chips.

Have you called around for someone in California that will do single stage in a rattle can, or have the smog nazi's outlawed it? I know there's a place in Des Moines that used to make paint bombs.

Posted by: jonwatts May 12 2003, 11:51 AM

I've used this place (http://www.towerpaint.com/index2.html). Give them the 914 paint code and they'll ship you some custom cans. Not sure of anyone local to us that provides this service.

I used them to test paint colors before choosing one.

Posted by: Curvie Roadlover May 12 2003, 11:54 AM

I second Jon's Tower Paint recommendation. Got my touch-up paint from them. Like Jon said, just give 'em the color code and they ship you the paint

Posted by: Jeff Krieger May 12 2003, 12:07 PM

Well, you've gotta give Jenny credit for her determination to build a running 914. Most girls would just go out and buy a Miata or something.

Posted by: Brad Roberts May 12 2003, 12:26 PM

She did really well. I'm was blown away that the tray is SOLID and the there are NO holes below the tray area. It will all clean up really well with some 3M sanding discs.

There was almost no dirt behind the rockers packed in next to the jack points.

I have thought more about it... and she will be using the heat gun and puddy knife to remove the tar paper from the floorboards. Its more labor.. but I dont want any surprises under the tar paper. It feels really solid (no crunching) but I know it has had standing water in it.

First thing to do is to get the engine compartment sanded/cleaned up so we can shoot it.

We will leave the car stripped for the Maaco paint job at a later date.

Jen,

Contact those people JonW suggested.. I'll get the paint code off the car today and email it to you.

Should be a generic 73 1.7 silver.

B

Posted by: Jeroen May 12 2003, 01:35 PM

Jenny... I'm jealous!!!

cheers,

Jeroen

Posted by: need4speed May 12 2003, 02:10 PM

There was a great color on old Ghias in the 50's called Aerosilver grey. Renders your car invisible in fog.

(look at #3 down on this page)
http://www.kgcentre.co.uk/vehicles_for_sale.htm

The VW paint codes are here:
http://www.type-14.com/paint.htm#L248

This is the only example I could find on the web, but it's a really nice layed back color. I've seen it in person at last year's Treffen in Ventura. Really a nice silver color. I doubt it's historically accurate for a 914 tho.

Posted by: Jenny May 12 2003, 02:46 PM

Ooohh! I liked #2 on that page. I was toying with the idea of a gunmetal color, and then putting the Porsche decal across the doors.

Jen

Posted by: Lawrence914-6 May 12 2003, 03:30 PM

Sounds like you need to take a visit to a local paint supply store and peruse their books of color chips.

Suggestion: call the shop you plan on using, and find out what brand they use before you go.

-Rusty

Posted by: Dave_Darling May 12 2003, 04:41 PM

WARNING!! A buddy of mine (Josh2, for those who have been around long enough to remember him) has a 914 that is that color. Well, now it's "mostly" that color... Anyway, that looks an awful lot like "pavement" color to most SUV drivers out there. It seems to be even more invisible than BRIGHT SCREAMING YELLOW (sorry, another CRX flashback) because everyone kept trying to hit that car...

--DD

Posted by: L8Apex May 12 2003, 04:57 PM

Dave and I, as CRX owners know much about the tainted yellow colored CRX's. They were mostly found wrecked, or burned to the ground. strange.

Posted by: Jenny May 12 2003, 05:02 PM

Great. So no yellow, and no asphalt. What's a girl left with??

Jen

Posted by: SirAndy May 12 2003, 05:09 PM

silver?

Posted by: Brad Roberts May 12 2003, 05:27 PM

It will be OE factory Silver or you can pick it up this weekend.

Seriously. No joking. If the car doesnt go back to the OE color.. no help from me.

I spent 2 hours last night going over a factory 6 that had been repainted by a reputable shop. It cannot be done correctly unless we completely strip the tub down to bare metal. This 6 looked like hell.

I hate to be a dick.. but its going to be done right or I wont be involved.


B

Posted by: Jenny May 12 2003, 05:39 PM

I figured as much, Brad. Wishful thinking on my part.

I'll find another car later on down the line to bastardize.

Jen

Posted by: Brad Roberts May 12 2003, 05:48 PM

And you will get good money for this one.. because it wont be a color change. Silver is the most sought after 914 color on the planet for 4's and 6's.

B

Posted by: Bleyseng May 12 2003, 06:28 PM

I agree with Brad, Jenny. Silver is a awesome color too when all waxed and polished up. Shows the sexy lines and curves of the body really well. Stands out nicely in a crowd too candy colored 914's too.
Geoff

Posted by: krk May 12 2003, 06:59 PM

Jen,

Being as I own a silver one now, and I previously owned a silver one, I'm the first to say "ya baby!" to staying silver.

Being as I own a respray car, I'm also the first (well, second as Br@d would always be at the front somewhere) to say doing a good respray is very hard ... er.. very very hard... well, like, impossibly hard.

So I vote SILVER for your car. Heck, check out the stock color code and see if you like it -- the best is if the stock color is something you love!

Here's the down side -- I took my silver /6 to a PCA driving event. Every frikk'n porsche there was silver, black or red. The 914's that were colorful were the real eyecatchers! (ravenna green anyone?!)

So I"m recently on a yellow kick -- unfortunately -- I love the car on the front cover of Caught by Camera.

But I digress...

Silver is still my vote. (like that matters or something! hey, anything will look better than RUST!)



kim.

Posted by: Jeffs9146 May 12 2003, 07:26 PM

Rust.........hummmmm? <_<

No, I think not!

Jeff

Posted by: krk May 12 2003, 07:35 PM

Um....

What color is this?????


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Posted by: Brad Roberts May 12 2003, 08:00 PM

L 96 D is the paint code Jenny.

B

Posted by: Jeffs9146 May 12 2003, 08:07 PM

Personaly, I am with Brad! This car has potencial!

Jeff

Posted by: rhodyguy May 12 2003, 08:14 PM

jenny, if you haven't done so, build some new rubber into your budject now. seals that is not tires. now will def be the time to do it. esp sealing rubber for the engine tin. you dont' want to have to pull the engine again to do it. alot of the pieces are pretty inexspensive. L96 D, same as mine.

kevin

Posted by: Eddie Williams May 12 2003, 09:57 PM

Mine is L97A VW Diamond Silver Met. What is the diference between this and the L96D Porsche Met Silver?

Posted by: Alexlitov May 12 2003, 10:12 PM

There is a place here in San Leandro that can make you a spray can of the desired color. They also make touch up paint. If anyone needs more info i can look it up.

Posted by: Brad Roberts May 12 2003, 10:22 PM

Alex,

Please look it up. I want her to be ready for paint by Monday.

Kevin,

Her wrecked car had all new rubber in it/on it. We will hold a "Transfer Jenny's parts party" after I get it running and it gets painted. The body shops dont like to see cars that they have to push around.. so I will have her get the engine compartment done first so I can install the engine tranny combo (73 GA 2.0) and make it drivable. I also get tired of pushing cars up and down the trailer ramps...


B

Posted by: Jeffs9146 May 12 2003, 10:54 PM

L96D Thats my color! Here is what it will look like!!:


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Posted by: Alexlitov May 12 2003, 11:17 PM

San Leandro Color
555 E 14th St
San Leandro, CA 94577
(510) 569-8236

http://www.paintscratch.com

Posted by: rhodyguy May 13 2003, 06:32 AM

wow a bunch of good rubber. if it's a pretty complete set that's a quick $500. don't forget the glycerin from walgreens upon reinstall. get one of those plastic syringe's to squirt the goop into the channels. one thing i did when i painted the engine bay, i ran a small space heater to warm the compartment up for the night before i painted. the self etching primer in the rattle can was an excellent product.

kevin

Posted by: Jenny May 13 2003, 11:08 AM

How many cans of paint should I be ordering for the engine bay?? Anybody done this before??

Jen

Posted by: aufaber May 13 2003, 12:07 PM

I think you could do it with two.. three would probably be safe if you are just doing a single coat. I think I went through 3 cans doing 3 coats on the rear decklid.


-Aaron G>

Me, I'd silver por15 The engine bay. Looks nice in Jarred's 510's engine bay and on my trunk and drivers side floor.

Posted by: Brad Roberts May 13 2003, 12:14 PM

You havent had that silver out in the saun yet have you ??

It turns yellow. They tell you not to put in areas with contact to the sun.

I used Silver on a 914 cage. Looked like baby piss in about 10 days after driving around with the top off.

B

Posted by: jonwatts May 13 2003, 12:25 PM

I'd get a minimum of 3 cans for good heavy coverage.

Posted by: Jenny May 13 2003, 12:33 PM

3 cans of tricoat or regular? I thought the tricoat DOES provide good heavy coverage...

Posted by: jonwatts May 13 2003, 01:40 PM

Sorry, shoulda kept my mouth shut. I haven't used the tri-coat. The cans I bought were single stage enamel.

Posted by: ChrisReale May 13 2003, 02:25 PM

My car was L 96 D before the PO got hit and re-painted it Guards Red. Sooner or later, I plan to go back to theoriginal color, but there arr ea few "imporvements" to be done before

Posted by: aufaber May 13 2003, 02:41 PM

It actualy looks kinda greenish to me. Ya I've seen teh color change. I think it's just the clear formula with suspended metal in it. As far as I know the Grey and black don't do it.

-Aaron G>

Posted by: Brad Roberts May 13 2003, 02:56 PM

Aaron,

When is Jeff going to come back to reality (that he cannot deny his 914 fetish) ??


B

Posted by: Jenny May 13 2003, 03:00 PM

Painting targa top... (since I don't have sail panel vinyl to match)

pros and cons??

Jen

Posted by: Brad Roberts May 13 2003, 03:11 PM

Just more money.

I have plenty of black lids.. so have it done.. if you dont like it.. I end up with a silver lid..LOL

If you recall..the tube frame race car is all silver. It looks pretty good with the silver top.

B

Posted by: aufaber May 13 2003, 03:12 PM

He actualy drove his 914 the other day. He was just talkng to me about throwing some 1.7 head on it to get it moving again without the locomotive sounding exhaust leaks.. though last night when he pulled it into the driveway the electrical system went out.

So i was looking through Por15 site and noticed they make a non-UV sensative silver topcoat called SterlingSilver. More interesting to me was that they make a non UV sensative version in White. I am a big fan of white enigne bays when it comes to being able to see when you are woking on.

http://www.por15.com/topcoat.html

-Aaron G>

Posted by: Jenny May 13 2003, 03:14 PM

Top needs to be sanded flat, right? I'm not sure I'll like the silver pitted look...

Jen

Posted by: Brad Roberts May 13 2003, 03:14 PM

I used the white on the tube frame of the silver race car above. It worked "Ok" at best. I found out brake cleaner takes it off the tubes pretty quickly.


B

Posted by: nine14cats May 13 2003, 03:14 PM

Hey B,

Is your tube car a sheridan wide body or standard? and what size rims and tires do you run? I remember you saying one time that it was more stable with 10" wides than 12" wides...

Just curious for grins.....

Bill P.

Posted by: nine14cats May 13 2003, 03:17 PM

Hi Jenny,

If you want the side pillar vinyl, I believe I have a new set in the garage that I'll donate as part of the project...I think I still have all of the trim pieces too...

If you want them...I'll check in the garage tonight...

The car's getting closer....

Bill P.

Posted by: Brad Roberts May 13 2003, 03:18 PM

WIDE BABY. Damn wide I should say.

The body kit is for 14 inch rears and 12 fronts. At one point in time.. SCCA said we had to run 10's on all four corners.. they changed that about 2 years ago. We can now run 12's on the rear but have to keep 10's on the fronts. We tried 12's on the rear..but you have to totally change the gearing and setup to run 12's. It wasnt worth the wheel investment and tires at this point in the game.

The fronts are 10's with a 5/5 offset. The rears are 10's with a 6/4 offset. The front track is 2 inches wider than the rear. It goes where ever you turn the wheel. I dont think anybody that has driven it has made it understeer.

B

Posted by: Jenny May 13 2003, 03:34 PM

Hey Bill,

I'm actually glad there's no vinyl. It would have been a hassle trying to strip and repaint the orange car, but since the silver one doesn't have it anyway, I'm going for the sleek painted look.

I really appreciate your generosity though. It's nice to know there's always good 'ol 914 folk willing to pitch in for the cause. Merci beaucoup!!

Jen

Posted by: nine14cats May 13 2003, 03:52 PM

Hey Jenny,

Votre Bienvenue!

Bill P.

Posted by: Dave_Darling May 13 2003, 04:19 PM

Bill, that may be the literal translation of "Your welcome" (the posessive "your", even!), but the actual response is, "De rien". ("It's nothing.")

--DD

Posted by: jonwatts May 13 2003, 04:31 PM

Thank you, Frenchie Frencherson.

Posted by: Dave_Darling May 13 2003, 04:35 PM

Hey, man--ya gotta speak the language if you want to hit on the waitresses in Montreal! (Ref: the 2001 East Coast Ramble)

--DD

Posted by: nine14cats May 13 2003, 04:35 PM

thanks for the english...er...french lesson dave....my junior high school french is rusty...besides it was a free translator on the web and I typed in the wrong phrase!



merde....besides...I'm half hawaiian! we mix everything up!

bill p.

Posted by: SirAndy May 13 2003, 04:39 PM

actually,

"pas de probleme"

(means no problem) is pretty common too.
at least in the southern part of france ...

ahhhh, nothing like a warm summer day in the Camargue ...

Posted by: Jenny May 13 2003, 04:40 PM

I like hawaii's Mahalo (sp?) Doesn't it mean pretty much anything you want it to? Hello, good bye, thank you, so on and so forth...

Posted by: rhodyguy May 13 2003, 06:43 PM

the paint mixed for me went a long way. they mix the paint by the pint and load it in the cans. you pay for the pint no matter what. a pint makes four cans. whether you buy four it's up to you, so there was a slight add on. the finnish paint and 3 cans of self etching primer( i used the gray) ran about $90 i believe. 1 1/2 cans did my whole engine bay and lower firewall back to the contol arms, and i did not scrimp. i'll use the paint to touch up some minor flaws on the body.

kevin

Posted by: Brad Roberts May 13 2003, 06:49 PM

Jenny.. listen to Kevin. Buy what he says to buy. He is the only person to do this recently that I have seen. I would like to use the self etching primer. I know it works well.

B

Posted by: anthony May 13 2003, 07:06 PM

Jenny if you don't need all 4 spray cans I'd split some of the cost with you ... assuming you are ordering stock L 96 D silver paint.

Kevin do you know if they will put some of the paint in a standard touch up bottle?

Posted by: Bleyseng May 13 2003, 07:25 PM

Ok, Kevin where did you get the paint. I am going to touch up the paint finally so it looks good from 20 feet.
Geoff

Posted by: Alexlitov May 13 2003, 07:33 PM

The place in San Leandro does touch up paints. Look at my replay on page 3.

Posted by: rhodyguy May 13 2003, 08:00 PM

geoff, i got it at a firm named Canyon Auto Body Supply. just down the road a bit from where my house is. as to the touch up paint i'll check tomorrow, the spray cans the paint comes are pretty generic looking. i'll also ask them specificly what the paint make up is. it's like nothing i've ever seen come out of a can. plus, the spray tps adjust for a band that goes vert or horizon. much better than just a fog. it allows you really direct the paint where you want it without the running aspect turning into a nightmare. just be patient with it. use the blue light release masking tape, it comes off much easier. you will also need the correct style breather for these products. the paint smells much stronger, i suggest putting tape around the jam on the door that goes from your garage into the house.

my house is a geographical odity. 2 mi from the paint, flap, hardware, grocery stores. all in diff directions.

kevin

Posted by: rhodyguy May 13 2003, 08:12 PM

jenny, my r trunk is in the same shape as yours. i'm going to spray it out with the same batch of paint. i have to weld in the f trunk bottom i showed in a in a previous topic. should be enough for that . lets see, i have to pull a rocker to remove the old ac lines, might as well paint the longs. well that WOULD be the best time to paint the rockers. the rear val is already off. see where this is headed? it never seems to end.

kevin

Posted by: Curvie Roadlover May 13 2003, 08:40 PM

Thank you = mahalo, hello/good bye = aloha