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Posted by: jimkelly Jul 9 2012, 01:18 PM
pics
note that most of these wheels use special and expensive bolts.
note that most of these wheels range from $200 to $500 for a set with bolts.
note that some of these wheels are for racing only, ie: mini lites, panasport, keizer, etc etc
kws: 4 lug wheels - four lug wheels - 4 bolt wheels - four bolt wheels
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Posted by: dlkawashima Jul 9 2012, 01:42 PM
Nicely compiled Jim. Here are two other 4 lug wheels. I don't know what brand/model these are .....
Matt's 914:
Hisashi's 914:
Posted by: Kirmizi Jul 9 2012, 02:09 PM
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Posted by: sixnotfour Jul 9 2012, 02:33 PM
Revolutions
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Posted by: Millerwelds Jul 9 2012, 04:29 PM
Superlights 16x7
Posted by: dlkawashima Jul 9 2012, 05:00 PM
I think the wheels on car #2 are Ronal Kleeblatt rims.
There's an old thread that had a lot of good pictures of 4-bolt 4x130 rims. Maybe you can add some of those pictures to your compiled one ...
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=62874
Posted by: Scott S Jul 9 2012, 05:15 PM
#19 are American Racing. Libre (Libra?) wheels.
Posted by: rjames Jul 9 2012, 05:43 PM
Another for the 'steel wheel' category. Brazilian chromies.
Posted by: gothspeed Jul 9 2012, 05:46 PM
Superlights 16x7
Anyone know what size tires are on these superlites?
Posted by: URY914 Jul 9 2012, 05:54 PM
American Racing on my car in 1981.
Western Wheel and Shelby also made them.
Posted by: LotusJoe Jul 9 2012, 06:24 PM
Nicely compiled Jim. Here are two other 4 lug wheels. I don't know what brand/model these are .....
Matt's 914:
By far some of the coolest wheels I have seen. I did do some research on the these wheels last year and found the manufacture; but they have not made them in years. I can't remember who it was that made them
Posted by: anderssj Jul 9 2012, 07:21 PM
#2 are definitely Ronal--I can post PN, etc. if there's any interest.
My car has American RAcing "LeMans" wheels on it--I'll try an find a picture later.
Posted by: Type 47 Jul 9 2012, 08:12 PM
And these ATS German wheels
Posted by: carr914 Jul 9 2012, 08:40 PM
lotus65 has these - he offered them back to me but won't follow-thru 
Posted by: Elliot Cannon Jul 9 2012, 09:26 PM
Revolution
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Posted by: Mark Henry Jul 9 2012, 09:34 PM
EMPI Sprintstars
For sale if anyone is interested 
Posted by: jimkelly Jul 10 2012, 04:28 AM
sport steel
the upside to these - while heavy - are that they are 15" x 5.5" with correct 4.5" offset - and - they use easy to find and cheap - short bolts.
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Posted by: jimkelly Jul 10 2012, 04:30 AM
mahle
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Posted by: jimkelly Jul 10 2012, 04:31 AM
pedrini
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Posted by: jimkelly Jul 10 2012, 04:33 AM
01 ???
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Posted by: jimkelly Jul 10 2012, 04:34 AM
02 ???
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Posted by: jimkelly Jul 10 2012, 04:36 AM
mini lites
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Posted by: jimkelly Jul 10 2012, 04:38 AM
fuchs
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Posted by: jimkelly Jul 10 2012, 05:27 AM
03 ???
look like superior turtlebacks but are concave
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Posted by: jimkelly Jul 10 2012, 05:28 AM
Empi ?
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Posted by: URY914 Jul 10 2012, 05:55 AM
^^Empi's I believe
Posted by: kmwvmarip Jul 10 2012, 06:02 AM
Very useful post for someone trying to glean information. It'd be great to add ball park $$ values and availability to this (ie still manufactured, links, etc)... I know things change over time... but this could be useful as a one-stop sort of post...
Posted by: bam914 Jul 10 2012, 06:04 AM
Nicely compiled Jim. Here are two other 4 lug wheels. I don't know what brand/model these are .....
Matt's 914:
By far some of the coolest wheels I have seen. I did do some research on the these wheels last year and found the manufacture; but they have not made them in years. I can't remember who it was that made them
3 piece Jongbloed wheels. These are the wheels I had on my race car. I sold them to him.
Posted by: jimkelly Jul 10 2012, 07:24 AM
turbine
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Posted by: jimkelly Jul 10 2012, 08:52 AM
Keizer
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Posted by: jimkelly Jul 10 2012, 08:53 AM
Campagnolo
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Posted by: jimkelly Jul 10 2012, 08:53 AM
Momo
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Posted by: jimkelly Jul 10 2012, 09:00 AM
Haney
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Posted by: jimkelly Jul 10 2012, 10:56 AM
Ronal
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Posted by: jimkelly Jul 10 2012, 10:57 AM
Riviera
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Posted by: jimkelly Jul 10 2012, 11:06 AM
Gurney (painted black)
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Posted by: Millerwelds Jul 10 2012, 11:19 AM
Superlights 16x7
Anyone know what size tires are on these superlites?
205-55-16
Posted by: ottox914 Jul 10 2012, 09:54 PM
Panasport
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Posted by: ottox914 Jul 10 2012, 09:58 PM
Keizer
Posted by: jimkelly Jul 11 2012, 04:49 AM
Steel
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Posted by: jimkelly Jul 11 2012, 02:32 PM
06 ???
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Posted by: 3d914 Jul 11 2012, 07:12 PM
I don't this its bias, but the factory wheel choices seem to look the best to me.
Nice compilation.
Posted by: jimkelly Jul 13 2012, 04:37 AM
07 ???
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Posted by: jimkelly Jul 13 2012, 04:38 AM
08 ???
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Posted by: ThePaintedMan Jul 13 2012, 01:26 PM
07 ???
Enkei 92s? Think thats what I have.
Posted by: carr914 Jul 13 2012, 01:32 PM
Look like Enkei's to me
Posted by: jimkelly Jul 13 2012, 06:12 PM
09 ???
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Posted by: scotty b Jul 13 2012, 07:51 PM
I don't this its bias, but the factory wheel choices seem to look the best to me.
Nice compilation.
I do believe that this thread is simply to show all of the available options. Not a personal preference poll
Posted by: cwpeden Jul 15 2012, 04:52 PM
Momo
both used long bolts
Posted by: Porsche930dude Jul 15 2012, 05:15 PM
Posted by: cwpeden Jul 15 2012, 07:17 PM
09 look like maybe Riken.
Posted by: lennyhope Oct 24 2013, 04:48 PM
Another for the 'steel wheel' category. Brazilian chromies.
Can anyone give me more details on these wheels? What are they? Where fitted? Where made? etc etc
Posted by: 76-914 Oct 24 2013, 06:07 PM
Dan Gurney's "Hot Rod Black" w/ polished rims, center cap & nuts. Now in the possession of Mark, euro911
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Posted by: shuie Oct 24 2013, 06:22 PM
15x7 ATS w/205 tires
These were my favorite wheels on the front of my 914. I really wanted to run these, but never could find a rear wheel that would fit w/o flares because of the offsets. I have no idea who made them. Some kind of Jackman clone for VWs.
Posted by: Trekkor Oct 24 2013, 07:17 PM
I know, not narrow body, but these are Diamond Racing Wheels.
They are made to order for about $125 each.
Very strong and fairly light.
For a narrow body car order a 15x7 with a 4.75 backspace.
FYI: the set-up for my car is 13x10 rears with a 4.75" backspace and 13x8 fronts with a 4" backspace.
KT
Posted by: sixnotfour Oct 24 2013, 07:22 PM
If you want it to rub on the outer fender, then yes
5.250-.50 no stretching of fenders
Posted by: JawjaPorsche Oct 24 2013, 07:26 PM
I did not see American racing alloys on previous posts. I looked twice! 
Here is write up on Ebay:
Never removed since being installed as a dealer option on this car, is a set of probably the most desirable aftermarket vintage wheel in the market, the american racing wheel. An original dealer installed option as installed by American Racing, the four spoke look is a classic. Everyone these days is returning their 914 to the original vintage look and these wheels are recognized as one of the best options of the time.
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Posted by: Trekkor Oct 24 2013, 07:28 PM
If you want it to rub on the outer fender, then yes
5.250-.50 no stretching of fenders
That's probably correct.
KT
Posted by: type47fan Oct 24 2013, 07:36 PM
Authentic EMPIs
They are a two piece wheel "sealed" with a large diameter o-ring, NLA. Have been running with tubes. There is an EMPI logo in the web that the valve stem "points" to. The center cap attaches with the old school "mag" style tabs.
I bought these new from Auto Haus in Buena Park, CA, in 1971 for my, then new VW Superbeetle. Cost: $35.00/each.
Sold the SB and installed them on my first 914, an L20E '72, then on my current car, am L31M '76.
Posted by: ChrisNPDrider Oct 24 2013, 07:38 PM
Here is another shot of the American Racing allow "le Mans" wheel. They came w or w/o polished spokes. Mine are painted gold on the inside face. They take mag seat lugs (hard to find).
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Posted by: JawjaPorsche Oct 24 2013, 07:53 PM
Here is another shot of the American Racing allow "le Mans" wheel. They came w or w/o polished spokes. Mine are painted gold on the inside face. They take mag seat lugs (hard to find).
Nice Kayak carrier!
Posted by: euro911 Oct 24 2013, 09:03 PM
Posted by: euro911 Oct 24 2013, 09:05 PM
I took that pic
... The car belonged to one of my neighbors, Matt. Supposedly sold it to someone on World, but I don't know 'who'
Posted by: yalewolf Oct 24 2013, 09:22 PM
These were on mine when I got it...Don't have any idea what they are.
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Posted by: Kraftwerk Oct 24 2013, 10:24 PM
I am currently running JW 3-piece wheels a bit wider than Rivaria or Pedrinis ( at least I think they are called "JW")
nice basket-weave, sweet wheels, I bought from K Trekor a few years ago. (smile wavey)
Posted by: Trekkor Oct 24 2013, 11:54 PM
I am currently running SW 3-piece wheels a bit wider than Rivaria or Pedrinis
nice basket-weave, sweet wheels, I bought from K Trekor a few years ago. (smile wavey)
will post a picture..
Those were cool wheels!
KT
Posted by: jimkelly Oct 25 2013, 05:02 AM
superior turtlebacks
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Posted by: 1stworks Oct 25 2013, 07:25 AM
English made Revolution..
Posted by: ripper911 Oct 25 2013, 08:26 AM
Posted by: rhodyguy Oct 25 2013, 08:40 AM
the steelies with plain nipple caps on the orange car in post #40 look so right!! the wheels (similar to rivs) pictured in post#50 look to be formula vees. if so they have the correct, prob no rub with wider tires, backspacing.
Posted by: lennyhope Oct 25 2013, 08:45 AM
Another for the 'steel wheel' category. Brazilian chromies.
IN POST #8
What are these? ANY MORE INFO??
Posted by: lennyhope Oct 25 2013, 08:46 AM
Sorry duplicate post of above...
Posted by: rhodyguy Oct 25 2013, 09:21 AM
lenny, go check out the cip1.com web site. look for wheels with 4.5ish inch backspacing on a 5.5 inch wheel that strikes your fancy.
Posted by: Kraftwerk Oct 25 2013, 10:29 AM
Those were cool wheels!
KT
They still are!
Posted by: lennyhope Oct 25 2013, 10:47 AM
I've been offered some of these wheels. Does anyone know more about them??
http://s152.photobucket.com/user/AndyCamper/media/post-4467-1341877563-1.jpg.html
http://s152.photobucket.com/user/AndyCamper/media/post-4467-1341877387.jpg.html
Posted by: vw505 Oct 25 2013, 11:19 AM
Were did you find this picture of my car? LOL. It realy is i checked the tags on it.
Posted by: 1stworks Oct 25 2013, 11:33 AM
Those were cool wheels!
KT
They still are!
Beautiful!!!!
Always loved bbs look.
Posted by: Pat Garvey Oct 25 2013, 04:32 PM
I've been offered some of these wheels. Does anyone know more about them??
http://s152.photobucket.com/user/AndyCamper/media/post-4467-1341877563-1.jpg.html
http://s152.photobucket.com/user/AndyCamper/media/post-4467-1341877387.jpg.html
These wheels where manufactured by a Brazilian company named Mangal. They are high quality and were offered as dealer options for 914's in the 70's. Think they stopped making them in the late '70's, as alloy wheels were becoming more mainstream. A Chinese company remade them in the 90's, with horrible results (BIG surprise there).
I've had my Brazilian wheels for 40 years and love them. There are probably some still available, but stay away from that Chinese crap (and they are CRAP!).
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Posted by: carr914 Oct 25 2013, 05:30 PM
Those were cool wheels!
KT
They still are!
Beautiful!!!!
Always loved bbs look.
Those look like the Grakus I had
Posted by: Trekkor Oct 25 2013, 07:47 PM
Seemed to remember them being called 'Epsilon' wheels.
Who knows?
KT
Posted by: carr914 Oct 25 2013, 09:12 PM
That sounds right for the wheels pictured. My Grakus's looked just like them & with a name like Graku, they might have been an Eastern European Copy
Posted by: lennyhope Oct 26 2013, 02:09 AM
I've been offered some of these wheels. Does anyone know more about them??
http://s152.photobucket.com/user/AndyCamper/media/post-4467-1341877563-1.jpg.html
http://s152.photobucket.com/user/AndyCamper/media/post-4467-1341877387.jpg.html
These wheels where manufactured by a Brazilian company named Mangal. They are high quality and were offered as dealer options for 914's in the 70's. Think they stopped making them in the late '70's, as alloy wheels were becoming more mainstream. A Chinese company remade them in the 90's, with horrible results (BIG surprise there).
I've had my Brazilian wheels for 40 years and love them. There are probably some still available, but stay away from that Chinese crap (and they are CRAP!).
The ones I have been offered are Made in Brasil...and have the Mangal on them...Big thanks gor the info....
Posted by: lennyhope Oct 26 2013, 10:31 AM
What markings/stamps are on the factory 914 5.5 steelies that distinguish them from others??
Posted by: euro911 Oct 26 2013, 10:54 AM
Size Code
Manufacturer and Date Code
Posted by: lennyhope Oct 26 2013, 11:52 AM
Instead of 10 and 70, what would the other wheels tend to have? I guess what I am saying is What do they mean??
Many thanks
Posted by: euro911 Oct 26 2013, 02:34 PM
51/2 J x 15 = wheel width, offset and diameter
10 = month (October)
70 = year (1970)
Posted by: lennyhope Oct 26 2013, 02:38 PM
"Doh!"
Where is the offset marked??
Posted by: euro911 Oct 26 2013, 10:34 PM
I believe 'J' is the offset/backspacing designator. I'll measure the back-spacing when I get back to the shop. If anyone else knows the info off the top of their head, chime in.
Posted by: rhodyguy Oct 27 2013, 08:10 AM
4 5/8"?
Posted by: Craigers17 Sep 8 2017, 06:22 PM
...As a newbie, I hate to bust in on a classic wheel thread, but I've been doing a lot of wheel shopping lately, and I found these on Ebay. I think they might be the unidentified wheels in pic #19.
They are "Cal Master" and appear to be VW type wheels 4x130's. I wondered if anyone has heard of these. The only caveat is that two are 15x5 and two are 15x7...don't know how this would affect the handling. Based on the backspacing, it looks like these might actually work on a narrow body??? (yes, that is a statement/question). Maybe with a spacer? Dunno.
Posted by: TM_Corey Sep 8 2017, 06:31 PM
I get razzed about my steel wheels but I like them and they are the actual original wheels that came with my car. I like to say it's a "sleeper" 2.0.
Although if I had it to do over again I would have painted instead of powder coated.
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Posted by: BillC Sep 8 2017, 07:26 PM
I believe 'J' is the offset/backspacing designator. I'll measure the back-spacing when I get back to the shop. If anyone else knows the info off the top of their head, chime in.
Actually, the "J" describes the bead seat contour. You can read more about it http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible_pg4.html, about halfway down the page.
Posted by: euro911 Sep 8 2017, 09:08 PM
Thanks for that link Bill. Didn't know about the bead style, nor the hump style 
Bookmarked it 
Posted by: garrettlee2 Sep 8 2017, 09:18 PM
compomotive cx 400
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