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Posted by: jsconst Jul 10 2012, 08:22 PM
I started a restoration thread for thehttp://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=151864&hl=
And the http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=155192&hl= thread when I bought the white 74.
But since the yellow project has been put on hold, I guess I need a white 74 restoration thread, So here we go...
Here are some pictures of the car when I first bought it last November.
At least the lights all work!
That doesn't look good
The first month it spent on jackstands while I worked on the engine and brakes to get it driveable and able to be registered.
Put in some new used seats, a dash mat, some carpet pieces and floor mats, a stereo and speakers, a new steering wheel, and fixed the odometer.
After months of driving/working/driving/working, replaced the AAR - twice, the MPS - 3 times, decel valve -once, McMark adjusted my valves, sealed the tranny, replaced the cracked windshield, and drilled/taped and plugged 3 leaking galley plugs, that was a long day, ya McMark 
. Well I finally got it looking and running fairly well, been driving the piss out of it, almost 8K miles since december.
Drove it to WCR 
My car on Laguna Seca
Drove it in an autocross school, and two AX races. 
But now it's time for big changes, I had built (McMark) this 2056 for the yellow car.
And it's been sitting on my workbench since December waiting for the yellow car to be ready. The yellow car's going to be a while..... So I decided to put it in the white car instead, but not only that, the D-jet system on the car now has been a pain 
to sort out and its taken 3 complete systems to finally get it running this good, still needs a better MPS.
So I pulled the trigger and bought a crankfire-Microsquirt FI system from McMark at Original Customs.
Here's part of it
No more distributor, no more obsolete FI parts, and tuning with my laptop how cool is that. 
Thats almost caught up....more to come
Jeff
Posted by: kg6dxn Jul 10 2012, 08:51 PM
Very cool! How many 914's do you own now? I lost track.
Some day I will get back to mine...
Posted by: jsconst Jul 10 2012, 09:32 PM
Very cool! How many 914's do you own now?
I lost track.Some day I will get back to mine...
Thanks Mike, just the two, one to drive, one to restore. But this throws a hitch in the logic, both cars down at once. Have to get the engine swap done fast.
Yours would be running, but I think you like working on it more than driving, how many engines have been in that car since you've had it....I lost track
Jeff
Posted by: kg6dxn Jul 10 2012, 09:42 PM
Yours would be running, but I think you like working on it more than driving, how many engines have been in that car since you've had it....I lost track
Jeff
Posted by: jsconst Jul 10 2012, 10:09 PM
So a couple of weeks ago I began getting ready, first thing I did was put the rear suspension back on the yellow car and roll it out of the garage to make more room.
Its new home for now.
Then I got the engine off the work bench, and pulled out the tranny I rebuilt last May at Dr Evil's clinic. Now if I can just figure out where all this stuff goes And I thought the motor was already built.
First the new crankwheel and sensor.
Then I got to thinking about it, now's the time to add an external oil cooler, can't hurt.
Epoxying my new CHT sensor
Almost together, the alternator, intake, and exhaust then the motor will be ready for install.
This weekend, after the Petaluma swap, gotta drive it one more time, the old engine/tranny/exhaust are coming out so I can start the engine compartment repairs. 
Hoping to have the new engine in and tuned, in time to drive it to Beaver for RRC in September 
More to come.
Jeff
Posted by: Lennies914 Jul 10 2012, 10:34 PM
Tried to subscribe, but I can't get it to work
Let me know if you need a spectator hand.
See ya Saturday!
Posted by: JimN73 Jul 10 2012, 10:37 PM
Jeff, what's the configuration of your 2056? I built mine to a 2056 about a year and a half ago and Mark will be working on my MS & distributorless ignition kit as soon as he gets a couple of other projects done.
I'll have a thread when we get closer.
Thanks,
Posted by: jsconst Jul 10 2012, 11:13 PM
Jeff, what's the configuration of your 2056? I built mine to a 2056 about a year and a half ago and Mark will be working on my MS & distributorless ignition kit as soon as he gets a couple of other projects done.
I'll have a thread when we get closer.
Thanks,
Hey Jim, I had all my machine work done by HP machine in Lodi. I bought the KB pistons, had my stock cylinders bored. I also bought the 9550 super cam kit from Jake. The heads were totally rebuilt, ports polished, new seats and valves. All chambers were balanced, all rotating parts were balanced. Then I took it all to McMark and he built it and broke it in, I think he said 9.1-1 cr.
Can't wait to drive it.
Jeff
Posted by: jsconst Jul 10 2012, 11:20 PM
Tried to subscribe, but I can't get it to work
Let me know if you need a
See ya Saturday!
There's always more beer in the fridge than I can drink alone in one day
With the heat though my Saturday afternoon start might turn into Sunday morning, but your welcome if you're free, and not doing anything
See you Saturday for sure if you're going to make it to Petaluma.
Jeff
Posted by: JimN73 Jul 12 2012, 02:46 PM
Jeff, what's the configuration of your 2056? I built mine to a 2056 about a year and a half ago and Mark will be working on my MS & distributorless ignition kit as soon as he gets a couple of other projects done.
I'll have a thread when we get closer.
Thanks,
Hey Jim, I had all my machine work done by HP machine in Lodi. I bought the KB pistons, had my stock cylinders bored. I also bought the 9550 super cam kit from Jake. The heads were totally rebuilt, ports polished, new seats and valves. All chambers were balanced, all rotating parts were balanced. Then I took it all to McMark and he built it and broke it in, I think he said 9.1-1 cr.
Can't wait to drive it.
Jeff
I'm using Jake's 9530 cam with compression at 9.5:1 and lightened flywheel. Should be pretty comparable, performance wise but they'll tune differently.
Posted by: jsconst Jul 12 2012, 07:56 PM
I'm using Jake's 9530 cam with compression at 9.5:1 and lightened flywheel. Should be pretty comparable, performance wise but they'll tune differently.
Jim, Rich Wilner has the same setup from McMark in his car, he posted his tuning file in http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=145791, his file should get both of ours tuned fairly close to get started, thanks Rich.
Should be a fun set up, actually getting excited about pulling a perfectly good running motor, but it will go in the yellow car someday.
Jeff
Posted by: bembry Jul 12 2012, 08:20 PM
Man--you're doing good stuff with that white car--I like!
Posted by: JimN73 Jul 12 2012, 09:03 PM
I'm using Jake's 9530 cam with compression at 9.5:1 and lightened flywheel. Should be pretty comparable, performance wise but they'll tune differently.
Jim, Rich Wilner has the same setup from McMark in his car, he posted his tuning file in http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=145791, his file should get both of ours tuned fairly close to get started, thanks Rich.
Should be a fun set up, actually getting excited about pulling a perfectly good running motor, but it will go in the yellow car someday.
Jeff
Jeff, I've tried to open the zip file that he posted on April 24. It appears to be empty, unless I need another program to open it.
I think you're right, we should be able to get our cars up and running quickly using information from those who have already done this.
What's you schedule? I drive the car every day so I want to get all of the pieces & software together and get parts installed and tuning 99% done in 2-3 days. Mark is going to help with the install, so I'll have a good source for help.
Jim
Posted by: jsconst Jul 12 2012, 09:48 PM
Man--you're doing good stuff with that white car--I like!
Thanks, saw the pic of you and dad in your car...very cool nice picture, love the color of your car, looks to be in nice shape.
Jeff
Posted by: jsconst Jul 12 2012, 09:59 PM
Jeff, I've tried to open the zip file that he posted on April 24. It appears to be empty, unless I need another program to open it.
I think you're right, we should be able to get our cars up and running quickly using information from those who have already done this.
I've tried to open the zip file that he posted on April 24. It appears to be empty, unless I need another program to open it.
What's you schedule? I drive the car every day so I want to get all of the pieces & software together and get parts installed and tuning 99% done in 2-3 days. Mark is going to help with the install, so I'll have a good source for help.
Jim
I would think you would need their program to open the file, haven't looked in to that part yet. I'm planning on pulling my old motor this Sunday, then I have some rust to clean up, new battery tray, SS fuel lines, new cables then the new motor goes in. Then I'm loading it on my trailer and taking it to original customs to finish it and tuning.
Hoping to get it done quickly also, I don't drive mine every day but close, it's going to be tough to be without it, I've gotten used to be able to drive it when ever the mood strikes.
Jeff
Posted by: McMark Jul 12 2012, 10:29 PM
Is this the motivate-Mark thread?
Two cars leaving this weekend. Two cars leaving next week. Things are looking good for a 12h wiring harness building bonanza!
Jeff, you're engine is looking gorgeous! 
Nice work!
Posted by: jsconst Jul 12 2012, 11:01 PM
Is this the motivate-Mark thread?
Two cars leaving this weekend. Two cars leaving next week. Things are looking good for a 12h wiring harness building bonanza!
Jeff, you're engine is looking gorgeous!
Nice work! Ya I need the rest of my kit
Should have the car in your shop with the motor in by July 29th....pick it up on the 30th, that should be enough time right. Thanks, the motor has come along nicely, it's only taken almost a year and lots of $(don't tell my wife)
See you on the 29th (I'll bring your tire rack) or sooner if I decide to take some time off from the job, I let myself do that sometimes, gotta keep the priorities straight
Posted by: JimN73 Jul 13 2012, 10:38 AM
Is this the motivate-Mark thread?
Two cars leaving this weekend. Two cars leaving next week. Things are looking good for a 12h wiring harness building bonanza!
Jeff, you're engine is looking gorgeous!
Nice work! Yep, I,m ready too.
Posted by: jsconst Jul 14 2012, 11:22 PM
Is this the motivate-Mark thread?
Two cars leaving this weekend. Two cars leaving next week. Things are looking good for a 12h wiring harness building bonanza!
Jeff, you're engine is looking gorgeous!
Nice work! Yep, I,m ready too.
See Jims ready too, I guess this is the motivate Mark thread.....is it working
Jeff
Posted by: jsconst Jul 14 2012, 11:32 PM
Car ran great to petaluma and back today, had some time this afternoon and got the crimped connectors off my new injectors so they're ready to install.
Started putting my intake together, cut my throttle body shaft down 10mm to fit the new throttle position sensor, and mounted the cold start valve block off plate.
Tomorrow the engine/tranny/exhaust come out and go in storage for the yellow car, and the rust repairs begin
Jeff
Posted by: jsconst Jul 15 2012, 11:25 AM
Well got everything on top disconnected.
And got the car up in the air.
Just the bottom connections and drop it out, no more drives for a while 
Jeff
Posted by: jsconst Jul 15 2012, 02:29 PM
Motors out 
It dropped out fairly easy, just went slow and kept stopping to check things since I was by myself. Was going to remove the heat exchangers and exhaust before I dropped the motor. Got one nut off, second one, the harder one to get to is a nylon lock nut DAPO, can't get a socket on it, thats going to be a fun one, think I'll deal with it later.
Well now the real work begins, cleaning, scraping, sandblasting, and painting four of my favorite things....good thing I stocked up on beer
I think for the rest of the day I'll play with my new motor, still have the intake and exhaust to finish.
Jeff
Posted by: jsconst Jul 16 2012, 06:02 PM
Well I ended up staying home and worked on my car today. I got the trunk and engine compartment stripped down of the bolt on parts.
The trunk needs some attention as well as the engine compartment.
Then I thought I might as well fix this as well, PO thought they needed starter access through the trunk 
I got the battery tray cut out and cleaned up the area around it.
This is what I found 
I knew the battery tray was toast, and had planned on replacing the engine shelf where the dealer cut for the AC install, but the rest is more severe than I had hoped for.
I know when I'm beyond my capabilities, I put in a call to McMark today, looks like it's going to Original Customs sooner than I had planned, and the bill is going to be bigger. 
Oh Boy! Not sure if I'll meet my deadline to get the car back on the road in time to make RRC, we'll see.
If it ends up being to severe to my wallet, I may have to switch back to working on the yellow car.
I need a beer
Jeff
Posted by: Lennies914 Jul 16 2012, 07:45 PM
What a bummer Jeff.
Posted by: McMark Jul 16 2012, 10:27 PM
I can get that knocked out in one day for you. Tow the car down and go work on my house while I work on your car. 
Posted by: jsconst Jul 16 2012, 11:24 PM
I can get that knocked out in one day for you. Tow the car down and go work on my house while I work on your car.
Sounds good to me, thought it might be a bigger job, let me know when you want it. Unloading my flat bed trailer wednesday morning, could load the car and bring it any time after that......like wednesday afternoon.
Jeff
Posted by: jeeperjohn56 Jul 17 2012, 07:33 PM
Jeff, That suck's about the rust, but your a mad man on getting it done. I wish I had your energy. But I'm glad to see you get it done right. Mark will get it done right, keep us posted with your progress. Good Luck John
Posted by: jsconst Jul 19 2012, 12:20 AM
Jeff, That suck's about the rust, but your a mad man on getting it done. I wish I had your energy. But I'm glad to see you get it done right. Mark will get it done right, keep us posted with your progress. Good Luck John
Thanks John, ya the extra rust damage sucks, but that's the chance you take with an old car. Talked to McMark today cars going over on Monday for the cut and weld.
After work today I broke out the angle grinder and some stripping pads and cleaned up the adhesive from the engine pad, and most of the rust in the trunk. This weekend I should be able to get the rest of the surface rust sandblasted and pressure washed before it goes to Original Customs for the major rust repairs.
Jeff
Posted by: RobW Jul 19 2012, 06:18 AM
If you need a work party... I'm in. Galt's not that far away...
Posted by: Lennies914 Jul 19 2012, 07:16 AM
If you need a
Count me in.
Posted by: jsconst Jul 19 2012, 08:02 AM
If you need a
Count me in.
Count me in too
Saturday would be the best day, going to try to strip the interior, and pull the gas tank to run new SS fuel lines and cables. Then put it on the trailer to go to Marks.
Sunday is sandblast and pressure wash.
Jeff
Posted by: jsconst Jul 20 2012, 07:09 PM
Got home early today so I decided to finish up the exhaust and work on the intake.
Oh did I mention I bought a Triad exhaust, Dave at Triad did an awesome job, he even added the fitting for my oxygen sensor for me. He was great to deal with, can't wait to hear how it sounds. 
The alternator and front tin and the motor is about ready to go in.
Lennies914 is coming over tomorrow to help pull out the interior, and change the back window, and run some new cables, oh and
Decided to make it a work party if anyone else is free and feels like coming over, there's a thread about it somewhere in the garage. Blame Robw for the late notice...it was his idea
Jeff
Posted by: RobW Jul 20 2012, 09:58 PM
Im watching the kids tomorrow after all.
I would encourage others to go to Galt. wrenching on 914s is fun and a great experience.
Although Galt is ranked 64th on the top 101 cities for residents in homes for the mentally ill... 
Posted by: jsconst Jul 21 2012, 07:34 AM
Im watching the kids tomorrow after all.
I would encourage others to go to Galt. wrenching on 914s is fun and a great experience.
Although Galt is ranked 64th on the top 101 cities for residents in homes for the mentally ill...
You're a funny guy Rob, it could be true though don't go into Galt much, my place is out in the country 11 miles from the city of Galt, not sure why my address is Galt, the Wilton post office is only 3 miles
Sorry you can't make it, at least it gives us someone to talk about
Maybe we'll do a BBQ in august.
Jeff
Posted by: ConeDodger Jul 21 2012, 07:08 PM
Im watching the kids tomorrow after all.
I would encourage others to go to Galt. wrenching on 914s is fun and a great experience.
Although Galt is ranked 64th on the top 101 cities for residents in homes for the mentally ill...
You're a funny guy Rob, it could be true though don't go into Galt much, my place is out in the country 11 miles from the city of Galt, not sure why my address is Galt, the Wilton post office is only 3 miles
Sorry you can't make it, at least it gives us someone to talk about
Maybe we'll do a BBQ in august.
Jeff
BBQ???
Yes!!!
Posted by: rwilner Jul 21 2012, 07:27 PM
The zip file I posted should extract to an msq file. You can open it with tunerstudio. I would post links but I am on my iPhone -- google it, the company who makes the software is efi analytics. The free version will get you started but I highly recommend upgrading to the paid version so you can use auto tune.
I am no ms expert but I know more than nothing, feel free to pm me questions or post them here and I'll do my best!
Posted by: jsconst Jul 21 2012, 09:53 PM
The zip file I posted should extract to an msq file. You can open it with tunerstudio. I would post links but I am on my iPhone -- google it, the company who makes the software is efi analytics. The free version will get you started but I highly recommend upgrading to the paid version so you can use auto tune.
I am no ms expert but I know more than nothing, feel free to pm me questions or post them here and I'll do my best!
Thanks for the info Rich, I'm sure when I get into the tuning phase I'll have questions, enjoyed talking with you last time appreciate all the great info.
Jeff
Posted by: jsconst Jul 22 2012, 09:14 AM
Lennie came over yesterday, got the interior all pulled out, and the rocker panels removed. There was more rust under the seat area, go figure, so instead of running the new cables and lines, we chipped all the tar out in the seat area.
Most of it ended up being not to bad, a couple of spots under the passenger seat will need Marks attention, maybe one new seat bracket. At least the longs looked good. 
So today I decided to pull the pedal cluster and front carpet, and finish removing the floor tar. See what other surprises I can find, might as well find it now and get it all done while its in Sonoma.
It was HOT (99) here yesterday, so we quite working on the car around 1:30 jumped in the air conditioned truck and drove to Penn Valley and picked up Lennies new toy, don't tell his wife, I'm sure he'll tell you all about it soon.
Well got to get busy, going to be 100 today!
Jeff
Posted by: jsconst Jul 22 2012, 01:56 PM
Finished cleaning the tar off the front floors, the tar removal wasn't as bad as I was expecting, after everything I'd read. The seam sealer was a bit tougher, but got it cleaned out. Unfortunately under the front tar reveiled more rust and a few more holes 
Got a few more parts to take off, a whole bunch of parts and hardware to label and get boxed up...my garage looks like a swap meet right now
couple more hours then its time to grab a beer and go jump in the pool 
Jeff
Posted by: McMark Jul 30 2012, 06:40 PM
Progress!
Attached image(s)
Posted by: jsconst Jul 30 2012, 07:26 PM
That trunk patch is looking good the trunk might stay a little cooler now
While the cars at McMarks shop I decided to have a few things done besides just the rust repair, new brakes lines, rear wheel bearings, cv joints cleaned repacked, pedal area reinforced, new shocks and struts, and reinforce clutch tube.
That should put me ahead when the car gets back, still have a lot to do, to have it ready to drive to RRC in September.
Talking to McMark it looks like he's coming here after the motor is in for the final hook ups and to fire it up. Thought if there is an interest would make it a BBQ
I'll post a thread about it later and see if there's an interest.
Thanks for the pics Mark, oh ya, my new tires get delivered tomorrow
Jeff
Posted by: jsconst Aug 1 2012, 07:01 PM
Well Mark has been making progress on the rust repairs, talked to him today, he went to repack my CV's.....they're shot, guess I'm getting new ones. Better to find out now then in the middle of the desert on my way to Albuquerque 
On a brighter note, my new tires arrived.
Maybe my back end won't break loose so easy next AX 
Jeff
Posted by: JimN73 Aug 1 2012, 09:01 PM
Well Mark has been making progress on the rust repairs, talked to him today, he went to repack my CV's.....they're shot, guess I'm getting new ones. Better to find out now then in the middle of the desert on my way to Albuquerque
On a brighter note, my new tires arrived.
Maybe my back end won't break loose so easy next AX
Jeff
I'm using those for autocross. They're pretty slippery when they're cold, but after a couple of runs before they start to stick. then they're pretty good. You'll like them.
Posted by: jsconst Aug 1 2012, 10:03 PM
I'm using those for autocross. They're pretty slippery when they're cold, but after a couple of runs before they start to stick. then they're pretty good. You'll like them.
That's good to hear, I didn't have a lot of options running 14" rims.
Do you use them for street too or just ax?
Jeff
Posted by: JimN73 Aug 1 2012, 10:20 PM
I'm using those for autocross. They're pretty slippery when they're cold, but after a couple of runs before they start to stick. then they're pretty good. You'll like them.
That's good to hear, I didn't have a lot of options running 14" rims.
Do you use them for street too or just ax?
Jeff
Mostly autocross, Jeff. I have 205-50 15s and they're a little tough when moving slowly. And, I'm not sure what the mileage is for these tires, so I tend to use them only for autox. My street tires are stock 165/80 15s
Posted by: echocanyons Aug 1 2012, 10:42 PM
I love my direzzas. Tons better than the falkens I previously had...still a bit dicey in the wet though.
Posted by: jsconst Aug 1 2012, 11:43 PM
I love my direzzas. Tons better than the falkens I previously had...still a bit dicey in the wet though.
Do you run them as street tires? Was wondering how they would do as street tires, noise, wear, handling.
Jeff
Posted by: echocanyons Aug 2 2012, 08:15 AM
Yes, I use them as my street tire. The handling is superb, the road noise is similar to the Falken and Khumo's. Wear has been relatively slow as compared to the Khumo's.
I have been running 205/50 15's for about 2 years driven daily up until recently(should resume shortly).
Posted by: Madswede Aug 2 2012, 09:21 AM
I had Dunlop Direzza's on my car (five years ago when it was running) and used them for daily driving/street. 'course it wasn't running on all four cylinders but that's beside the point. 
Since I was commuting ~200 miles a day, I didn't take the 914 very often, but when I did I was very happy with them. Stuck very well once warmed up, and there are quite a few twists and turns on NM-4 between Los Alamos and Rio Rancho.
EDIT: I should add that I didn't notice any issues when wet, but then it hardly ever rains here. Also, the wear was better than expected, but again I wasn't driving on them for all that long, maybe a year or two. For comparison, when I was driving the 968 as a DD/commuter and really racking up the miles, I was going through Continental Sport-Contact tires at a rate of a pair every year (or, on average, a full set every two years). That was doing 20-30k miles a year, though. YMMV.
Posted by: jsconst Aug 2 2012, 10:51 AM
Appreciate the responses, good to hear since I planned on running them for street as well as ax, can't afford a second set of rims and tires right now.
Thanks again
Jeff
Posted by: JStroud Mar 21 2015, 05:08 AM
Wow....guess its been a while since I updated this...lots has happened. Well I ended up selling Jim the Microsquirt system. I finally got the new 2056 in the car and running with the stock D-jet system. New motor ran great, and was a blast to drive.
Drove with the 2056 in the car for most of 2013, in September took a trip to Texas and back with a stop at RRC in Durango, http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=218192&hl=.
Then in November I took the 2056 out to take the transmission to Dr Evils clinic.
While it was out I decided to change the car to a -6.
I sold the 2056 with only 6500 miles, mostly from my trip, and bought a 2.7 -6, from a '75 Carrera...let the transformation begin.
Posted by: JStroud Mar 21 2015, 06:08 AM
One of my laptops decided to up and die, so I lost a bunch of pictures, partly why this hasn't been updated....so we'll have to fast forward a little.
I bought the 2.7 in November 2013, and really wanted it in and running in time to make WCR in Tahoe. So to speed things along I took the car to McMarks and had him cut the holes and install the oil tank, cut off the -4 engine mounts, weld on a -6 mount, and get the fuel and oil lines set up.
While he was doing that, I was getting the engine cleaned up, put on new fuel lines, injectors, a bunch of seals, new turbo valve covers......
2.7 ready to go in car
Installing the 2.7....oh ya, I built a shop in part of a barn on our property and bought a lift. 
With Marks help, I got the 2.7 in and running a week before WCR, drove it to Tahoe for the event. Engine ran very well......but started smoking, more than before, on the way up....and never got better I knew the motor probably needed to be rebuilt when I bought it, but I was hoping to drive it a while first.
Posted by: Cairo94507 Mar 21 2015, 06:09 AM
Sweet. You are truly a Porsche madman! I look forward to seeing your posts of the conversion.
Posted by: JStroud Mar 21 2015, 06:29 AM
Oh it gets better....
So I wasn't driving the car much, smoking bad, then Eric called and asked if I wanted to help escort a drive during Porsche Parade, I said sure but just put me at the rear.
Drove down to my brothers in Capitola, and 2 miles from his house, loud pop, and car starts running like crap and has limited power....
After a few hours of messing with it ...on the phone with Eric and McMark....decided to have it towed home.... not a fun weekend.
Got the car home and in the shop decided it was time for a rebuild....hey I got to put 500 miles on it before it blew. 
And drove it just enough to know a -6 was the engine for me, the 2056 was fun, but the -6 was beyond fun...
Made a deal with Mark to put a carbed 2.7 he had sitting in the shop in my car while I rebuilt mine.
Picked up his motor and pulled the CIS 2.7 out.
Marks 2.7 had been sitting for years, and had dual carbs, so I had to change the fuel pump and fuel line setup. Put some new seals, adjusted the valves, built a wiring harness for it, and did a quick clean out on the carbs.....and put it in.
We got the motor running, but the carbs kept clogging, and wouldn't adjust like they should, so we pulled them for a full rebuild.
Posted by: Cairo94507 Mar 21 2015, 06:37 AM
Nice, a 3.2 will be cool. Will you run Webers or the Motronic injection?
Posted by: JStroud Mar 21 2015, 06:46 AM
While the carbs were off and at Marks shop to be rebuilt, I started the tear down on my 2.7.
Almost apart
Ready for the machine shop
While taking the engine apart I was able to piece together its destruction.
When the engine was first installed it smoked a little but not to bad, checked the compression, all cylinders were around 95 to 105, low but fairly even, so I knew it was getting tired.
Then when I pulled the cylinders I found this.
The ring must have broke driving to Tahoe, which is why it started smoking so bad on that trip.
Then when I went to remove the timing chains, one side was noticeable looser than the other....failed tensioner...Porsche parade break down....skipped a timing gear on that cam.....
Posted by: JStroud Mar 21 2015, 07:10 AM
The 3.2 is running Motronic, but that's skipping ahead.
After inspecting the parts, found out the case had cracks running along the head stud area inside the cylinder spigots, oversized head stud inserts weakened the inside of the case. Found a replacement case, and a new P/C set.
I decided to go with Walt at Competition Engineering for my machine work. Packed everything up and drove to LA for the G & R swap, Spent the night in Bakersfield, and dropped off the parts Monday morning.
Got an email from Walt, with the machine work the case needed, the parts that needed replacing and other machine work I would have had over $9,000.00 into rebuilding that motor. Not quite the budget I was hoping for...
So after some thought, I decided to part out the 2.7, and put the money towards a 3.2.
Found a 3.2 for sale on pelican installed in a '76 912E, went to LA to take a look.
Jamie, oldschool, came by and we started the engine in the car, messed with it a while checking it out, talking to the owner. Decided I wanted it, made the deal and started pulling the motor.
Got it pulled in the truck and headed for home.
My new motor in my shop.
Almost caught up.
Posted by: JStroud Mar 21 2015, 08:23 AM
I bought the 3.2 at the beginning of November, didn't have a chance to do much with it for a while. Pulled Marks motor and got it back to him. And working on selling off the 2.7 stuff.
As I sold the 2.7 stuff, I started buying the parts I needed to get the 3.2 installed.
I got tired of my crowded shop and finally took the time and finished stripping the red parts car and pushed it out of the shop. 
Spent a day moving stuff around and cleaning up the shop. Got one corner emptied, so I built a workbench and set up a working area. Got all the 3.2 stuff moved over and organized.
Posted by: mepstein Mar 21 2015, 09:07 AM
Very nice !
Posted by: JStroud Mar 21 2015, 09:14 AM
About a month ago, after about a month of research, I started the electrical changes for the 3.2. I took the intake off, and modified the engine harness for the 914.
Rewired the 14 pin connector with one that will plug in to the cars 14 pin connector and eliminate the relay board.
I had been going back and forth on where to mount the DME, finally after changing my mind several times I decided to mount it in the rear trunk. Quicker, easier, and I don't use the rear trunk much anyway. A couple of weeks ago I got a mounting plate made and welded some mounting studs. Plate is mounted with rubber offsets.
The DME and harness installed.
Then I took the wiring harness I pulled out of the red parts car and cut out enough wires to run the electrical from the DME harness to the under dash connections and fuel pump.
I've got the interior apart ready to start that phase of the electrical, might have time this weekend to do more....we'll see
Posted by: JStroud Mar 21 2015, 09:45 AM
OK...almost there, Last week I got the tube with -AN fitting welded on from McMark, to modify my oil cooler. I cut the existing tube and mount, and fit the new tube on, ready to weld.
I had bought a new ring gear adapter and stage II clutch and pressure plate from KEP, I was planning on reusing the flywheel from the engine.
I took the flywheel and clutch parts to my machinist to surface the flywheel and then balance it all, I also dropped off the oil cooler to be welded.
Got a call yesterday.......flywheel is too worn to surface...
But the oil cooler is welded.....
So I ordered a new flywheel yesterday now when it comes in I just need to get it all balanced....and pick up the oil cooler.
Well the threads caught up, now I need to get busy.... really like to drive it to WCR in April.....
Posted by: McMark Mar 21 2015, 11:15 AM
Glad you updated your thread. You right. A lot has happened...
Posted by: steuspeed Mar 21 2015, 11:33 AM
Do you still have those 14" Dunlops? I bought the last set of those tires from Tire Rack 195/55/15. I'm pretty happy with them, but the smaller diameter means more shifting and higher revs on the freeway. The ride is more supple than the P6000's I had before, but turn-in is not as crisp. I feel the compound is more sticky though.
Posted by: JStroud Mar 21 2015, 01:06 PM
Glad you updated your thread. You right. A lot has happened...
Yep lots of changes.....over a couple years....Yes I'm still running the same tires, really like them in the summer around town, but when it's cold or too wet not so much. Rev's were too high on my trip driving straight freeway, but I've fixed that with a set of 7 X 16's sitting in my shop waiting for tires.
Posted by: arkitect Mar 23 2015, 09:03 PM
Jeff,
Lots of work done...almost there. Your a jack of all trades...very talented.
Can't wait to see it done and you on the road again.
Dave
Posted by: Cairo94507 Mar 24 2015, 06:57 AM
Wow! That is a ton of work and I am impressed with all of it.
Posted by: JStroud Mar 26 2015, 08:56 PM
Thanks Dave and Michael, its been fun, if my health hadn't taken a turn for the worse at the end of last year it would have been done by now. Finally doing better so should be soon, its been down since the middle of June last year....can't wait to drive it again.
Now for an update: Got my wire harness roughed out and labeled. 
Routed it through the firewall into the cabin. Now I just need to install the connectors in the engine compartment.
Still need to finish routing it through the tunnel then I'm installing a new separate fuse block under the dash to hook up the start/run power for the DME, fuel pump, radio, aftermarket fog lights, and other accessories. I've also incorporated my center console gauge wiring into the harness.
Changed the rubber fuel lines on the intake, cut off the crimped connectors, and installed the new fuel hose with FI hose clamps.
Then I finally found a good deal on a rennshifter....thanks Bob....this is an upgrade I've been wanting to do.
Should get my flywheel and clutch back all balanced tomorrow, and my oil cooler all welded up. That should get things moving along.
Posted by: Erben914 Mar 26 2015, 10:53 PM
Very nice Jeff. That shifter looks sweet!
Posted by: JStroud Mar 28 2015, 11:44 PM
Very nice Jeff. That shifter looks sweet!
Thanks Eric, Looking forward to getting it installed, but I think I'll wait till after WCR....I've already got enough to do to get ready now.
Posted by: JStroud Mar 28 2015, 11:51 PM
Went to the breakfast this morning, but manage to get a couple of hours in the shop.
Got setup to install the harness connectors.
Got the female 14 pin connector on the car harness, and a 2 pin connector on the center gauge wiring for the oil temp and pressure.
Posted by: JStroud Mar 30 2015, 08:24 AM
We had our granddaughter for the weekend, but managed to get a couple hours in the shop yesterday. Installed a fuse block in the engine compartment for all the red wires connecting to the battery, never liked that setup, also needed 12v for the DME.
Now all my circuits will be fuse protected, wether they need it or not. 
Posted by: JStroud May 31 2015, 12:42 PM
Had a setback getting my car done, my health took a turn for the worse and can't do much myself anymore. McMark came over and worked a couple of days in my shop and got the engine in the car, then he took the car to his shop and finished the installation. Thanks Mark, you're a good friend!!! 
So my car is now mechanically done and runs awesome. I've been able to take it for a few short drives and am very impressed with the 3.2.
I thought the 2.7 was fun, the 3.2 is amazing...so much power, definitely a great engine for these cars.
He also got my new renn shifter installed, loving that too. Now I need to upgrade the rest of the linkage back to the tranny.
3.2 in the car
Next I'm going to get the 16 X 7 Fuchs on the car, new tires should be here on Tuesday. I also ordered new bumper tops from 914rubber I have a set of early bumpers (no tits) I'm prepping for paint, then new tops. Cars running great now time to get it looking the way I've wanted.
Posted by: JStroud Jul 19 2015, 01:11 PM
Yesterday Mike Bellis and Andyrew came by to help me get my 16 X 7 fuchs on the car, I bought these about 2 years ago from Jamie, about time I got them on the car.
Mike and Andyrew rolled the rear fenders until they finally fit, not too much pulling needed. I sure do like the way they look on the car.
Getting started
All done
Andyrew decided to do some body work while he was there, he pounded out the small dent on the early front bumper I had, then welded up the license plate holes, and the holes in the rear bumper. 
Then he got all the welded holes grinded down, skim coated the front bumper, and sanded. A light sanding and paint and the bumpers will be done.
A big thanks to Mike and Andyrew, you guys are awesome, can't believe all you got done in just a few hours. Can't thank you enough for all your help.
Cars almost done now. 
Jeff
Posted by: Chris H. Jul 19 2015, 01:32 PM
Nice work guys! Those wheels look PERFECT! Can't even tell you pulled the rear fenders.
Hey Jeff, do you have a 6 badge for that thing? If not I'd like to send you this one:
I was gonna put it on my car but I'd rather get a 3.3 badge made instead. RJMIII did these a while back. You could either leave it polished aluminum (it's silver, not gold) or paint/plasti-dip it black. It'd go great with the theme either way. It's the exact size of the original one. Just PM me your address if you want it.
Posted by: JRust Jul 19 2015, 01:39 PM
Wheels look great Jeff! Absolutely my favorite look & wheels. 16" fuchs with black centers & polished lips. Congrats on getting the car closer to done. The work on your bumpers will really shine when you paint them. Always great having nice straight stuff. Looking forward to seeing those bumpers done & back on your car. Wish I could have made it down to help. Looking great bud
Posted by: turk22 Jul 19 2015, 04:45 PM
Yesterday Mike Bellis and Andyrew came by to help me get my 16 X 7 fuchs on the car, I bought these about 2 years ago from Jamie, about time I got them on the car.
Mike and Andyrew rolled the rear fenders until they finally fit,
not too much pulling needed. I sure do like the way they look on the car.Getting started
All done
Andyrew decided to do some body work while he was there, he pounded out the small dent on the early front bumper I had, then welded up the license plate holes, and the holes in the rear bumper.
Then he got all the welded holes grinded down, skim coated the front bumper, and sanded. A light sanding and paint and the bumpers will be done.
A big thanks to Mike and Andyrew,
you guys are awesome, can't believe all you got done in just a few hours. Can't thank you enough for all your help.Cars almost done now.
Jeff
Love to hear these stories, its a great community we have here!
Great work!
Posted by: jeeperjohn56 Jul 19 2015, 05:19 PM
Hey Jeff, glad to hear you getting car done, I;m in the same boat as you need to get rear window resealed install new interior, new rear shocks, but need to clean garage so I can work on car, keep it up. John
Posted by: Mike Bellis Jul 19 2015, 05:28 PM
We had fun and good conversation. Let me know if you need anything else.
Posted by: JStroud Jul 20 2015, 07:26 PM
Thanks guys, this is the fun part, finishing up the last few items.
Appreciate the offer Chris, and yes this is a great group of people, all the help and words of encouragement has been overwhelming....thanks everyone.
Get your car done John, love to see it on the road.
Ordered the paint for the bumpers today....one step closer.
Jeff
Posted by: brant Jul 20 2015, 07:38 PM
looks GREAT Jeff!
Posted by: mgp4591 Jul 20 2015, 09:26 PM
The attitude to help out here on the World is really great, but why is Andy welding the floor?
Posted by: euro911 Jul 21 2015, 03:47 PM
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Posted by: Cairo94507 Jul 21 2015, 05:15 PM
I have belonged to a few car club sites. 914World.Com is by far the best. Next closest was NSXPrime.com. All the rest pale by comparison.
Posted by: sixnotfour Jul 21 2015, 08:15 PM
Posted by: JStroud Apr 9 2016, 12:28 PM
Guess it's time to update this, been awhile. Haven't got a lot done....but at least it's slowly moving forward. I had the car up in the garage all bundled up for winter, so I had a friend help me do some things in the shop. Got the rest of the insulation in, the remaining lights installed, then hung some cabinets and a shelf, and got some decorations up.
My brothers have been coming over and helping me with the car. They have the rear bumper done, still working on the front bumper.
Then I finally got my bottom piece of my console back in, modified the hole for the renn shifter, then deleted the heater holes.
Chris H. sent me a 914-6 emblem a while back, finally got around to getting it installed...with a new twist. Thanks Chris!!!
Well that's it for now, my brothers will be here Monday, hopefully the front bumper will get done.
Posted by: Chris H. Apr 9 2016, 03:31 PM
Thanks for the update Jeff! So glad to hear from you. That is EXACTLY what I had in mind for that badge. It really belonged on your car. It's looking great! Keep us posted !
Posted by: jack20 Apr 9 2016, 04:11 PM
Jeff,
It's great to see you posting again! Hope you're doing well.
Jack
Posted by: euro911 Apr 28 2016, 09:37 PM
Glad to see you posting again, Jeff
Hoping your health has improved (looks like it has)
Posted by: Jeffs9146 Apr 28 2016, 10:57 PM
Hey Jeff,
I get my updates from Lennies914.
Glad you are still working on the white one!
Let me know if you need anything.
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Posted by: r_towle Jun 15 2016, 10:32 PM
Bye
Posted by: ConeDodger Jun 15 2016, 11:25 PM
RIP Jeff...
Posted by: euro911 Jun 16 2016, 12:12 AM
Posted by: ConeDodger Jun 16 2016, 10:07 AM
Mark,
Jeff had cancer. He was diagnosed a year ago and told he had months to live. He fought it and I think building this six was part of that fight. He died last weekend...
Posted by: euro911 Jun 16 2016, 03:54 PM
Thanks, Rob ... I found the other thread right after seeing this one
I passed through Galt on the way up and back from Cameron Park. I wanted to stop by Jeff's place, but I was already a day behind schedule.
Posted by: 2mAn Jun 24 2016, 12:40 AM
this car needs to stay within the group. I would hate to see it go to a flipper. I need to get my ass moving
Posted by: tygaboy Jun 24 2016, 09:59 AM
Yesterday I spoke with Deborah, Jeff's wife. Wonderful woman and we all need to keep sending our thoughts and prayers her way. The situation reminds us that everything else is small and unimportant.
But she is selling Jeff's car and I'm currently 2nd in line. I understand the person who has first shot is from SoCal and sounds like he is supposed to commit today.
I have to believe he'll make it happen but I'm ready to go if that deal doesn't happen and I'll certainly let you all know what happens.
Again, please keep Jeff's family in your prayers.
Thanks,
Chris
Posted by: 2mAn Jun 24 2016, 10:38 AM
Yesterday I spoke with Deborah, Jeff's wife. Wonderful woman and we all need to keep sending our thoughts and prayers her way. The situation reminds us that everything else is small and unimportant.
But she is selling Jeff's car and I'm currently 2nd in line. I understand the person who has first shot is from SoCal and sounds like he is supposed to commit today.
I have to believe he'll make it happen but I'm ready to go if that deal doesn't happen and I'll certainly let you all know what happens.
Again, please keep Jeff's family in your prayers.
Thanks,
Chris
The family will be in my prayers, as well as praying that the car doesnt show up on for sale for double the price in a month.
Thanks for the update
Posted by: arkitect Jun 25 2016, 07:17 AM
Jeff did alot of great work on that car, he was very talented. The new owner will be very lucky.
Dave
Posted by: Mike Bellis Jun 25 2016, 09:34 AM
I remember we rolled his fenders trying to fit the wheels. I told Jeff to drive slowly so we could see if there was any rubbing. He hammered the gas and suddenly we were doing over 60 on the bask country roads. We got back to his driveway and there was a large paint bubble on the passenger side from the rubbing tire. He didn't care. It was the first time he had driven the car in months and one of the last times he drove the car.
Thanks Andyrew for helping that day. It was great to get him on the road again.
Godspeed Jeff. You will be missed.
Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 26 2016, 09:02 AM
No more pain. Rip.
Posted by: tygaboy Jun 26 2016, 01:15 PM
Hi all - I mentioned that I was in line to buy Jeff's car. I went yesterday, took it for a drive (if you haven't driven a 914 with a 3.2, you need to. What a blast!) and in the end, decided for a number of reasons not to buy it. None of those reasons were because of the car.
Deborah, Jeff's wife, had a number of family and friends there with her and we all talked about her options, that the car was likely worth more than she was asking, etc.
I don't feel it's my place to get into details but I did receive a nice text from Deborah letting me know that she's decided to hold off on selling Jeff's car.
Just my opinion but I think that's a great decision for Deborah, given all she's going through.
Let's keep her in our prayers and remember the importance of family and friends.
Take care,
Chris
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