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Posted by: obscurity Jul 15 2012, 01:11 PM

I am looking for a source of the seat belt anchor. I am doing some work on the drivers side long and the tunnel and will need to replace these. The only commercially available anchors I have found are these http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HFM-SBHP/. Several people sell them but they lack the sleeve that goes through long. I am hoping to find something like the originals.

I have tried to source them from Restoration Design (since they are welding them into the long replacement) but they don't sell hardware. I have also tried to find the components to weld up but I have not found anything similar. Its possible that I am just not using the right search terms but so far I have found nothing. Does anyone have any ideas for a source?

Any help is appreciated,
John

Posted by: The Cabinetmaker Jul 15 2012, 03:54 PM

Maybe one cut from a donor car?

Posted by: obscurity Jul 15 2012, 07:29 PM

I thought about that but then I will have a rusty seat belt anchor just like I do now. I really didn;t think this would be as hard as it seems to be. Can anyone tell me what the name of the "insert" is? The e-brake piece uses a similar part (but smaller)

Thanks,
John

Posted by: bigkensteele Jul 15 2012, 09:39 PM

Not sure what your fabrication skills are. If you would not be happy with welding a nut to a plate and then welding that on the inside of the tunnel, then perhaps you might want to find some pipe or a ferrule and tap it to accept the bolt.

I would think that the nut/plate solution would be more than adequate, assuming you have good penetration on your welds.

Posted by: obscurity Jul 16 2012, 06:40 AM

It is looking more and more like I will have to go that route. I am just frustrated that although the part like this shows up in several locations on our cars, I found some Landrover replacement parts that included it (as a portion of a larger part), and Restoration design is using them for replacement longitudinals I can't find a supplier for the part. Are all these people having the parts fabricated in small quantities for their use?

It looks something like this,



Please excuse the rough sketch.

Posted by: injunmort Jul 16 2012, 06:51 AM

google "stepped threaded bung" msc and i am sure mcmaster, grainger etc will have what you need.

Posted by: obscurity Jul 16 2012, 07:04 AM

THANK YOU!! I will have to search suppliers tonight but a quick Google search has found many photos of exactly what I am looking for.

All the best,
John

Posted by: obscurity Jul 16 2012, 07:32 PM

In the latest turn of events I was able to find this right away but they don't have the right size (7/16"-20)

http://www.bungking.com/bungs-3/stepped-flanged-bungs/stepped-flanged-through-threaded-bungs.html

After a lot of digging though the web including McMaster, MSC, Grainger and many others all I have found that was the right size doesn't actually meet the sketch above

http://qscomponents.com/716BungRH.html

Mcmaster actually has the same thing but it is harder to link to. What I really want is the "step" shown in the sketch. This part is really for use with pipe.

Back to the web

John

Posted by: two-strokejohn Jul 16 2012, 08:36 PM

If you can get a bung insert close to the correct size of 7/16-20.... drill it out and retap it ...... if need be, I could supply you with a correct tap.

John

Posted by: bigkensteele Jul 16 2012, 08:45 PM

Are you sure that it is a 7/16" thread? Everything else on the car other than the wheel diameter is metric, so I am surprised that this would be SAE thread, unless they had to comply with some DOT standard.

Posted by: Dave_Darling Jul 16 2012, 09:01 PM

I think it was the latter case--a DOT standard. Either that, or there is a metric thread that is functionally identical to 7/16-20.

--DD

Posted by: injunmort Jul 17 2012, 08:27 AM

i have been told sae was dot mandated on the seatbelt hardware but i dont know that for sure.

Posted by: Racer Chris Jul 17 2012, 09:02 AM

Exactly.
M11 and 7/16-20 are virtually identical.

Posted by: Racer Chris Jul 17 2012, 09:04 AM

I'm doubtful you will find a suitable new part to install without some modificaton or fabrication.
The suggestion of welding a nut to a plate is the simplest solution.
You could machine the nut in a lathe to provide the shoulder you want.

Posted by: injunmort Jul 17 2012, 11:25 AM

google fragola performance, they may be able to help. they make one in aluminum #499510, they may also make it in steel. fwiw

Posted by: Harpo Jul 17 2012, 03:43 PM

There is a company called viking (SP?) that sells a pipe nut to Chrysler. And yes 7/16 is the standard size for seat belt applications here in the US. I had no idea that it also applied to Europe.

David

Posted by: smj Jul 18 2012, 12:03 AM

That's exactly what it is. And it was easier to standardize on what would sell in the US market than not. Should we put this in a wiki for easier reference than searching for old threads?

See also:

Posted by: Black22 Jul 18 2012, 01:20 AM

www.bungking.com will make any bung you want. Length, thread size and pitch...anything. Give them a look.

Posted by: smj Jul 18 2012, 02:53 AM

Oh yeah, about that - anybody have Mike Judge's phone number? I would love to hear what Beavis/Cornholio would do with that...

Posted by: Black22 Jul 18 2012, 09:43 AM