A couple of weekends ago, Doug (mrbubblehead), Joe (Kapt Kaos) and I got together to fine-tune Joe's and the 'BB's' carburetors.
We got Joe's car running pretty well and the A/F readings were looking great. We ran into a little difficulty with mine and gave up since it was getting late in the day
This prompted the question - would there be enough interest to hold a larger carb-tuning clinic in the South Bay area (LAX)?
I offered to host the event at my shop in Harbor City and Joe suggested that we could merge a carb-tune clinic along with my Danmar lift assembly party. I said, why not.
EDIT (7/31): After numerous responses, the event is scheduled for Saturday, August 25th.
The 'Carb Clinic' will be headed up by Doug and will include carb theory/analysis and possibly some lab work (utilizing the latest high-tech equipment known to mankind)
I will be more involved with the 4-post lift assembly and will need some strong helpers
There will be food & drink, cool give-away prizes and Joe Sharp will be manning the grille
So the question is ... who (and how many of you) would be interested in attending this event?
Post here or PM me to RSVP, so we know how much grub to provide.
I'll PM the shop address ...
Proposed Attendees:
mrbubblehead (Doug)
KaptKaos (Joe)
Joe Sharp
SLITS (Ron)
Rotary'14 (Robert)
Elliot Cannon
Jim Hoyland
914-300Hemi (Ravi)
silver74insocal (Dave)
oldschool (Jaime/Jim)
914_teener (Rob)
monkeyboy (Jim)
1TRICK6 (Jim)
ruby914 (Mike)
arg (Tony)
76-914 (Kent)
Type4Unltd (Richard)
Heeltoe914 (Leamon)
Mike D.
bdstone (Bruce)
Reid (my brother)
Black22 (Mike)
SECHSER (Jack)
0396 (Peter)
falconfp2001 (Frank)
RSrocket (Ron)
RiqueMar (Enrrrrrrique)
G e o r g e
914Bryan
mike914duck
Rob (Landlord)
lagunero (Alberto)
Me +1
I would possibly show up depending upon the date, but I don't do carbs ... FI all the way.
I need to change the clutch in the Grey Ghost before RRC, so I need to take that into consideration. Also want to add an A/F indicator (which has nothing to do with the clutch .. )
Now, about A/C in your trailer .................................
Hi Mark!
I wanna just show up and watch! what date?
-Robert
I can be there if it's towards the end of August. I'll be visiting family (my wifes) and friends in the Pacific Northwest in the beginning of August.
Cheers, Elliot
im in too....
I got excited and then realized it was the wrong "south bay". Is Mission bay the SoCal "bay"?
A little south of LAX airport, Matt
I would attend since I live in the SoBay. Granted, my DD is FI but my 914 is carbed It would be a great opportunity to learn more about tuning carbs other than just changing a bunch of jets.
@ Mark,
BTW, I''m still new to the 914 crowd. Where is your shop located?
Thanks,
Ron
Sounds good, I'm in...
If it's at the end of August I might be in also. I run FI, but more knowledge never hurts.
Count me in. What's the date?
Count me in.
I would love to attend this. not really interested in carb tuning but will help out any way i can Dave
I asked Robert (Rotary'14) if he would like to bring some stainless steel fuel line sets to the event (to sell).
If you would like to purchase a set, PM him to make sure he brings enough.
mark, i was thinking instead of working on tuning 1 or 2 cars, we could put on a little class. i was gonna print up some hand outs to give out. we could go over weber theory, synchronizing, air/fuel ratios, and tuning. that way everybody can learn to tune there own cars. and then we'll all have an understanding on how the carbs work and what effects jetting changes will make and why. i think that would be better than 10 guys trying to look in the decklid while one guy is trying to explain things. i could even get some poster board and make up some drawings so we are all on the same page.
It'll be pretty much your gig, Doug. Sounds OK with me ... but I'll still offer up the 'BB' as a lab experiment
When??
What he said...
I vote for August 18th or 25th. If it's not one of those Saturdays, unfortunately I'm out.
Well, this more about what date works best for you guys. Post your choice of August 18th. or August 25th. Majority will dictate the date.
I tried to edit the first post to add a poll, but couldn't figure it out
Either date, August 18th. or 25th. is OK with me. Once we have a consensus, I'll post a definite date ... and of course a start time (914-ish)?
Doug, which of those two Saturdays do you want to do this on?
EDIT:
Saturday, August 25th is the date ... gates open at 8:00 am-'ish
25th looks clear to me at this point.... TV shows seem to add days some times.
If I come I will bring my gear and shoot the event, and post it so others can injoy maybe even bring my heat press and print some shirts (if some one does the art work)..just bring a white t-shirt.
I'm in. I could use some help fine tuning my Dells.
Twenty fifth.
25th is better for me too.
I'm good with either
OK, I'm calling it the 25th. too then.
Mark and Doug,
Any chance you'll be discussing the tuning of 3bbl 40 ida webers.
I'll bring my 6 as a guinea pig.
Jim
Simply put, carburetors atomize a fuel mixture, shouldn't matter how many throats you're dealing with.
A neighbor's Dellortos stumped me last week, though ... I should snag his manual to better learn the difference from Webers.
I'll let Doug chime in on what he'll be offering at the clinic ...
I'm down! Let me see if I can try to make this!
No carbs, but it'd be cool to stop by and hang out!
Mark,
I don't have carbs but looks like fun. It will be nice to check out your new shop too.
You may have to do this more often for us FI guys.
The only thing I know about the ruby914's AFR is, it can't be correct.
Like I mentioned earlier, all the FI guys can help to assemble the lift
Awesome stuff! Can't wait.
i had better get crackin on my hand outs and stuff.
I'm in as well.
I may have missed it on another post/thread but I will eventually need to know where your shop is. Address?
I'm waiting to see if any additional folks want to sign up before I PM the address.
Give it a few more days ...
EDIT: I added the list of proposed attendees in the first post
Mark Iam in for the aug. 25. I can bring my hammer drill if you need one. For drilling the anchor bolt holes in concret. let me know
Tony G
Thanks for the offer, Tony, but we're not planning to bolt the lift down. See you there.
Anybody else planning on attending?
Mark, I am coming to check out Ruby's Suby and maybe hang around a bit.
if its cool with you guys, im gonna have to start kinda early. the better half reminded me about a date night we had at a comedy show. so im gonna have to get out of there no later than 2:00. i have never done any thing like this but i cant imagine it more than a couple hours.... im gonna try to get there as early as i can. what time does this little shin dig start mark?
Let us know what time you want to start, Doug.
Anybody else want to come? (wife is preparing to shop for food)
I'll PM the address tomorrow ...
i'll call you in the morning mark.... personnaly, i would like to get there early. so i have time to visit and chill with everyone. maybe start the class around 10:00 for maybe an hour or so? then have lunch? visit and chill some more, check out some cars. im gonna have to split at about 2. but im totally flexible about the times, as long as i can cut out on time. cuz my wife will have my ass if i miss our "date". she already call my 914 ""the other woman".....LOL she might my you know what.
PMs with shop address and Jiggle Map sent out
Mark your calendars: Saturday, August 25th., the gates open at 8:00 am
I am in Looks good. I would say no later than a 9am start. No reason for it to take up the whole day. Should be fun as always.
Hi Mark!!
Got the address,, thanks for hosting this! I'll be bringing a few sets of lines,, and stuff,,
folks should PM me to make sure I bring a set for ya.
-Robert
I want to come but my 914 runs perfect! Can I bring my VW, duel carbs and does not run perfect...?
Yeah, come on down Mike. I'll PM you with the address.
Drag Steve's butt down here with you too
Just a reminder to check your PMs for the shop address and Map to the shop.
Saturday, August 25th., 8:00 am
Hmmmm ... it appears to be mid-engine with rear wheel drive ... OK
Did you get the PM with the directions?
Nope. No PM yet.
Check again Mike ... sent you another one. If you still don't get it, call me
The following also haven't acknowledged receipt of PMs either
Joe Sharp
914-300Hemi
bdstone914
G e o r g e
Socalandy
proto31
highways
Saturday, August 25th., 8:00 am
Next Saturday
PM sent
We'll be buying food mid-week. Please RSVP so we know how much to get.
Some of you have offered to bring food items. If you want to bring something, let me know what
Menu:
Burgers (Vegie for Elliot)
Hot Dogs
Chips & Dip
Macaroni salad
Fruit
Liquid refreshments
Desert
Edited 8/23/12:
KaptKaos (Macaroni salad, water +?)
Joe Sharp (Hot Dogs and Chili)
Elliot Canon (Bad Jokes)
Rotary'14 (S/S Fuel Lines)
Heeltoe914 (Lift Assembly Experience)
SLITS (More Bad Jokes)
euro911 + 1 (Burgers, Buns, Chips & Dips, Sodas, Water & Ice, Condiments, and my wife's world famous Toll-Housewife Cookies)
I will be there. I thought I responded to the PM.
Geez, I'll go PM you, now. I did get your email w/ directions. Let me know if you need any tools brung.
RSVP ... wholly shit ... Do I have to wear a Tuxedo?
and
take a shower?
I don't need food ... I'm fat enough.
BUMP
Damn Mark, Did you just invite the Rainbow Coalition?
Uh oh, he said weiner!
Note: We're getting close to 30 people and we only have about a dozen chairs at the shop
Also, let me know if you didn't get a PM with the address ...
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I'm the only one that will be sitting down. The rest of you will be putting the four post lift together and adjusting my carbs.
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dibs on a chair..... im getting old and fat. 42 is taking its toll.
Thanks for the heads up. I will stick one in the car.....
What time does the event start? I want to get there early so I can claim the chair.
Mark, sorry I have to miss this great opportunity.
Have fun !
The gates will open around 8:00 AM. Coffee and breakfast treats will be available (while the limited supply lasts).
Ted, we may schedule some future events if this one goes well ... maybe not as large though
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Euro911,
Good luck this weekend with the clinic and the lift assembly! Don't forget the case of Dextron III ATF!
Phatnine11
I did some research and noticed that BendPak recommends 10WT or Dextron III, and some other manufacturers suggest ATF as an alternative. Some say ATF is to acidic and eats the seals
Danmar specified AW-32 (ISO32), so we just picked up a 5-gallon jug of that.
Thanks for the suggestion though, Ceasar ...
7 hours from now ...
Thanks Mark for hosting the carb clinic. Got to meet a bunch of familiar names from the board; your shop is very cool, the lift will make it easier to work on you 914s; big thanks to Joe Sharp for the great burgers, dogs, and chili. Learned how carbs should be tuned, how to use a A/F gauge, and got to see some beautiful 914 workmanship.
Thx to Mark for putting on this get together and thx to the other Mark for the ride in his Turbo Suby Ruby. I couldn't find the shit eating grin emoticon. I think we pulled about 2 G's accelerating. I'm now considering the 4 cyl.
Great fun today!!! Had a good time with everyone there. Kent, while you are considering that Suby, I took a ride in Mike's 3.0L! All I can say is
I NEED A SIX!!!!!!
See you all soon!
Mark,, You're a great host, your wife makes yummie snacks! You have a nice set up to bring to life all your projects! I'm green with envy. It was great to see a few new faces as well as the usual mugs. The Lift went together pretty smooth, you had plenty of help,, bolt that puppy down!
Nice BBQ!
THANK YOU
-Robert
Heres a short clip,http://youtu.be/C1WYx5iTMd8
Nice little clip, Jaime (except for that guy narrating) ... looking forward to seeing the Clinic video
What can I say ... you guys were just absolutely awesome!
With Leaman and Mike D. diving right in and all the help from you guys, the lift is assembled and works great. Doug also did a great job teaching the Carb Clinic.
With so much going on, only snapped a few pix, so I'm hoping there are more pix coming from you guys
Rob, Jim, Elliot & Bruce
Joe, Mike, Jim, Richard, Tony & Dianne at the start of the lift assembly
Leaman and Ron assembling the lift
Dianne, Joe & Kent (Mike's Ruby Suby at left of pic even though it's white)
Easy to remember names today, there were 4 Jims, 3 Mikes, 2 Joes and 2 Robs ... and of course, Joe Sharp did an outstanding job with the BBQ, as always (thanks, bud)
Hope to have another event sometime in the future, maybe another carb clinic, hands-on tech day and swap meet?
Thanks Mark and Dianne,
The shop looks great, lift came together well.
Just need some redheads and bolt it down.
It was great to give Kent a ride in the Suby. I can see he is stoked to get started on his project.
It was nice to see everyone, I am starting to get all the names and faces put together..
Good work
Now, if I could get my FI tuned
Had a great time. Was good to see everyone!!
thanks for hosting the gig yesterday mark. i like getting together and meeting people with the same insane hobby as me. normal people just dont understand.
i want to apologize to the people who attended the carb clinic. a public speaker i am not. i even spent a week on the handouts. but as soon as the camera started rolling (which i hadnt planned on) i just fell apart. hopefully the hand outs made more sense than i did...LOL
Doug, you did great! Be sure to send me the PDF of the your handout. If its justa word doc, then send that and I can PDF it for you.
Mark - Awesome host!!
Much thanks to Mark and Dianne for all the hard work putting this together. I think I counted 13 Porsche 914's at this event. Here are just a few.
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Old school tying to figure out how to get the film in the camera.
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Lotsa cooks in the kitchen but they finally got it sorted out. I think Mark will get some good use out of this lift. I wish I had room for one like it.
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Slits holding the instructions. Mike trying to explain to Leaman that he's holding the wrong end of the wrench.
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Richard trying to explain where the motor is.
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Some of the raffle prizes. This was a really fun event. Maybe we can talk Mark and Dianne into doing this again sometime. Although if more people show up Mark will have to get a bigger shop.
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It was really nice of our landlord to offer the use of a vacant shop ... it came in handy for Doug's carb clinic session. The landlord is a car guy too, not sure why he didn't make it to the event
Kind of bummed though, the vacant shop/neighbor was a prototype/small production machinist that had been there for 8 years. Gonna miss Moe, although he lives locally and pops in from time to time.
Another guy who has a Harley repair shop down the street (Larry Settles) stopped in when he saw all the cars in the lot. Apparently, he has a 914 with a 3.2 in it ... will have to check it out
An additional thanks to Ron (SLITS), Jack (SECHSER) and Tony (arg) for helping us clean up ... much appreciated
Edit:
Oh, and the 'raffle' was actually a free give-away, mostly freebies that HF offers (makes one wonder how much I shop there)
Those who's raffle tickets were called first got the first pick of the items on the table, just a little something to take away for helping out. The dough in my hand came from some unexpected voluntary donations and were appreciated as well
Mr. Bubbleheads,
Your presentation was really good. The way you explained the sequence of adjustments was easy to follow and took a lot of the mystery out of adjusting and syncing carbs.
Thanks for taking the time...y
Mark,
Thank you for hosting the event. I had a great time meeting and talking to people that have the same sickness.
Looks like I missed a great event. I ended up getting off of work early Sat morning and fell asleep on the couch Hopefully there will be another one soon
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Check out a short clip...
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You need help with that let me know.
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