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Posted by: kg6dxn Jul 28 2012, 04:56 PM
If a member here gets banned, should they be allowed to join back to the fourm under a newly assumed name? What if they get banned a second time? This has become a topic of interest recently.
Posted by: carr914 Jul 28 2012, 05:07 PM
I Know I'm an AssHat Member for Life - so Apologies Ahead of Time are Accepted
Thank You
Posted by: jcd914 Jul 28 2012, 05:36 PM
I think it depends on what they did to get banned in the first place. The admins here seem (to me) to be pretty forgiving and someone has to work pretty hard to get banned. If they were disruptive enough to get banned they should probably stay away but I think most everyone should get a second chance.
Jim
Posted by: 914itis Jul 28 2012, 06:28 PM
I think it depends on what they did to get banned in the first place. The admins here seem (to me) to be pretty forgiving and someone has to work pretty hard to get banned. If they were disruptive enough to get banned they should probably stay away but I think most everyone should get a second chance.
Jim
add that to the poll
Posted by: jeeperjohn56 Jul 28 2012, 07:13 PM
with Jim, a second chance. John
Posted by: Elliot Cannon Jul 28 2012, 07:17 PM
I think they should just be ignored. Internet forums like this one are so anonymous (with the exception of the few people I have actually met), if some a** hole says something that insults me or others or is generally an a**hole, I just ignore them. If I don't know them their opinion of me or things in general mean nothing to me. I know I've said this befor but if people were required to list their real name and where they are from, it might limit the amount of a**hole posts and inane arguments. There's .04 worth.
Cheers, Elliot Cannon
Paso Robles, California
Posted by: RickS Jul 28 2012, 09:39 PM
If some one really tics you off, you can just go into your profile and add them to a blocked users list, and you will never see another post. Seems pretty simple compared to playing cop.
Posted by: bigkensteele Jul 28 2012, 10:14 PM
A ban is a ban. If Charles Manson got out of prison tomorrow and changed his name to John Smith, he is still Charles Manson, and I don't want him buying the house next door.
It is not easy to get banned here. You have to be an extremely irritating a-hole who offends damn near everyone to the point that they are begging that the person be banned. APE914 is a perfect example. I don't know who he was before, don't care. He is an equal-opportunity hater that ruins every thread he replies to.
Utopia does not exist and is not possible. Many people, myself included, come here to relax, absorb knowledge, and hang with the other 0.002% of the general population that has an interest in these cars. I can think of no good reason why we should have to put up with jerk-offs who have demonstrated on numerous occasions that they only want to disrupt otherwise peaceful and meaningful dialog between us. As far as I know, and please correct me if I am wrong, assholes are not yet considered a protected segment of our society (yet, being the opperative).
Posted by: Dr Evil Jul 28 2012, 10:41 PM
Banned = Banned
Posted by: bfrymire Jul 28 2012, 10:51 PM
I think it depends on what they did to get banned in the first place. The admins here seem (to me) to be pretty forgiving and someone has to work pretty hard to get banned. If they were disruptive enough to get banned they should probably stay away but I think most everyone should get a second chance.
Jim
+1
I agree. People can change. Maybe probation?
-- brett
Posted by: URY914 Jul 29 2012, 05:57 AM
I'd like to see an open forum. No rules, no banning, say anything to anybody. Stop trying to be the forum police. Let the sparks fly.
Posted by: shuie Jul 29 2012, 06:30 AM
I wouldn't actually ban anyone. I would just put them in their own special individual security group where they could still see everything and the rest of the non-banned membership would not be able to see or respond to anything they post. The change would be completely transparent to the banned member. They could argue and inflame themselves in the background, post FS and WTB ads, and wonder why they never get a response from anyone. Eventually, some them may even figure out that they are being completely ignored and leave on their own.
Posted by: DBCooper Jul 29 2012, 07:14 AM
What are some examples of people who've been banned? Stromberg, I remember. Some other little Nazi adolescent whose name I don't remember, who else? It doesn't happen often, does it, or are there people who disappeared and I just didn't notice?
Posted by: SLITS Jul 29 2012, 08:50 AM
Why not just send an EMP to their computer? 
or
just have Clay crawl thru the lines and disconnect their CPU.
Posted by: Dr Evil Jul 29 2012, 08:58 AM
I only remember Alfred (adolescent Nazi that kept posting racist things), and Stromberg (swindler, con man, thief, etc).
Probation is fine for a first offense, I agree. The person that sparked this discussion has been banned before so I dont think probation would apply.
You have to work very hard to get banned on this site.
Posted by: 6freak Jul 29 2012, 09:00 AM
3 strikes ...YOUR OUT
Posted by: Drums66 Jul 29 2012, 11:11 AM
3 strikes ...YOUR OUT
exactly............Baseball&Felons! (I agree)
Posted by: Madswede Jul 29 2012, 12:05 PM
I believe this sort of thing has been going on as long as there has been an internet forum for people to be on. What's going on is fundamental to human nature and how people interact with each other, particularly on a semi-anonymous forum like this.
In the groups I've been a part of in the past, dating myself here but we're talking about the heady days of the late 80s into the 90s when Usenet was the only game in town before the web took over, there really was no "banning" available to us. The forums were truly open to anyone to post anything. So as a defense, those of us that had disagreements with others we simply placed them in a "killfile" which was essentially identical to the "ignore" function here.
We would often get in a parting shot to the offender by simply replying with "plonk" - the sound of a certain object hitting the water of a certain porcelain receptacle that was also the sound of them being put into one's personal killfile, never to be heard from again. Sometimes it worked well - the knowledge that one would never hear a response from that person again (total f*ckin' silence) was sometimes enough to drive the asshole away without having to ban them, which was impossible anyway.
By the way, the forums I'm talking about in particular were alt.music.pink-floyd and alt.fan.led-zeppelin but alt.fan.douglas-adams was just about as bad for a time there.
So, banning may be a nice feature, and it may work, but really ... I think a "plonk" into your personal killfile is the best. Let 'em know you did it, if you like ... or just simply start ignoring them until they wonder why no one responds. 
Posted by: scotty b Jul 29 2012, 02:01 PM
Put them in solitary for a few months then let them back into the general pop. Daily cavity searches are mandatory. No-one gets shived in the garage.
FWIW, We don't have these issues in the sandbox, it has it's own rules and regulators 
Posted by: RobW Jul 29 2012, 03:20 PM
Whoever owns and manages this site should decide. A website isn't a free democracy. 
Posted by: kg6dxn Jul 29 2012, 03:34 PM
I'd like to see an open forum. No rules, no banning, say anything to anybody. Stop trying to be the forum police. Let the sparks fly.
I would too. Fuch It! Feels like I get in trouble more than I care to.
Posted by: kg6dxn Jul 29 2012, 03:36 PM
FWIW, We don't have these issues in the sandbox, it has it's own rules and regulators
I can get in trouble in the sandbox. Rules are made up as you go. I'm on my last warning for something that had no rules...
Posted by: RobW Jul 29 2012, 03:40 PM
FWIW, We don't have these issues in the sandbox, it has it's own rules and regulators
I can get in trouble in the sandbox. Rules are made up as you go. I'm on my last warning for something that had no rules...
Naw. You are far too nice of a guy to get in any trouble.
Posted by: Rand Jul 29 2012, 04:27 PM
I'd say the place polices itself quite well, because of the members.
When an asshat exposes himself, it is pretty clear to everyone. He then becomes entertainment fodder and gets run out on his ass by everyone. How does it get any better than that?
Let's not try to over-use rules and make the place sterile.
I know there are exceptions... Apparently Stromturd and ape/red/demencheIA are among them. But I have to admit, if they don't try to creep back in once in a while, I'll miss the drama a little.
Posted by: Dave_Darling Jul 29 2012, 04:45 PM
And sometimes people do change, at least for a while.
After all, Alfred/Alpine/Alhambra/All_be_back behaved himself for more than a year before reverting to racist phallocranial behavior...
--DD
Posted by: JRust Jul 29 2012, 04:48 PM
3 strikes ...YOUR OUT
Works for me
Posted by: wingnut86 Jul 29 2012, 06:57 PM
Dave,
What the heck is Phallo...whatever??
Never mind
Oh, 3 strikes gets life
Posted by: Dr Evil Jul 29 2012, 07:22 PM
I just tried to put some one on my ignore list, it didnt work 
I got a white screen and can still see the asshat's posts 
Posted by: DBCooper Jul 29 2012, 09:34 PM
Huh? So you can read this? Well IF you can it'works for me. In the place of their message there's a "you're ignoring this fool" note in a white box and a "do you want to un-ignore?" option. The only time you can't get away is if someone else quotes them. You see their posts then. Great feature, I swear it's lowered my blood pressure by twenty points, easy.
Posted by: kg6dxn Jul 29 2012, 09:50 PM
I just tried to put some one on my ignore list, it didnt work
I got a white screen and can still see the asshat's posts Stop trying to block me!
Posted by: bigkensteele Jul 29 2012, 09:52 PM
I just tried to put some one on my ignore list, it didnt work
I got a white screen and can still see the asshat's posts I can still see you too (in all your naked, blurred out glory), so it clearly isn't working.
Posted by: Elliot Cannon Jul 29 2012, 10:57 PM
I just tried to put some one on my ignore list, it didnt work
I got a white screen and can still see the asshat's posts It's working on me. But I ignore you most of the time anyway.
That way I stay pretty ignorant. No. Wait, that's not quite right. 
Posted by: Drums66 Jul 29 2012, 11:09 PM
Dave,
What the heck is Phallo...whatever??
Never mind
Oh, 3 strikes gets life
.......Means he's been hit in the cranium, with a tire iron LOL
Posted by: shuie Jul 29 2012, 11:24 PM
Posted by: carr914 Jul 30 2012, 03:27 AM
When an asshat exposes himself, it is pretty clear to everyone. He then becomes entertainment fodder and gets run out on his ass by everyone. How does it get any better than that?
But I have to admit, if they don't try to creep back in once in a while, I'll miss the drama a little.
Posted by: r_towle Jul 30 2012, 07:54 AM
Internet bullies are most likely not capable of that kind of behaviour once you put them in a real life public situation.
They would be shut down by a group of people, told to shut up, and not listened to.
This behaviour, with personal messages to spawn even more drama and attempt to sway a conversation only ended up with the original thread being ignored, all education in the thread is over...
I believe the ignore button is the best response and even if you see a post quoted, do what you would do in public...let it go and dont respond.
Honestly, the Internet gives certain types of people a platform to be heard...these types of people would typically require therapy to even try to be part of a normal social situation.
Yes, they can make your blood boil...then its time for you to do what you would do in a real life situation...either walk away (if that is what you would do in a bar) or stand your ground and tell the person to STFU
Rich
Posted by: ww914 Jul 30 2012, 08:44 AM
I haven't been around as long as most, but I think the way the Admins handled the last post where there were personal threats, etc. is the best way to go. I think everyone has a right to their opinion, but if you start bashing someone in a personal way, your post is gone. I know this sounds like internet police, but as a society, sometimes we need to be reminded that we are human beings and we should treat others like we would want to be treated. Sound like I'm preaching? Sorry.
Posted by: Drums66 Jul 30 2012, 10:23 AM
I haven't been around as long as most, but I think the way the Admins handled the last post where there were personal threats, etc. is the best way to go. I think everyone has a right to their opinion, but if you start bashing someone in a personal way, your post is gone. I know this sounds like internet police, but as a society, sometimes we need to be reminded that we are human beings and we should treat others like we would want to be treated. Sound like I'm preaching? Sorry.
.......Guess I missed the Drama?......ban anyone that BASTARDIZE"S 1
of these Cars(914 Porsche)
NOTE; ADMINS, I"ve lost use of the iconx
Posted by: seanery Jul 30 2012, 11:44 AM
Posted by: seanery Jul 30 2012, 11:45 AM
Drums, try closing and reopening your browser. If that doesn't do it, maybe a reboot or clearing your cache.
Posted by: Strudelwagon Jul 30 2012, 02:04 PM
Somebody's starting a BAND? cool! 
Ya....Band = Band
Posted by: ape914 Jul 30 2012, 02:25 PM
The real question is, what to do about banned witches?
How do we know who's a witch? 
Posted by: ape914 Jul 30 2012, 03:05 PM
Attached below is a technical data flow chart I dug up. It comes from a rather obscure factory technical department, who's main task was to supply factory warrentee guidance to dealerships dealing with customer complaints of haunted cars, Possesed transmissions, and ghoastly paranormal wind noises.
Evidently per Porsche factory historian Herr. Manx Kurz, they had a bad set of witching dog gears in 1979 installed in 13 911E's. Herr. Kurz told me they have been dealing with this type of witch thing every now and then since, but now they know what to do about it when it happens.
This flowchart will help us figure it out the burning witch question, in a logical step by step way, so there will be no mistakes.
Thanks to Herr. Manx Kurz, Porsche Factory Historian for this valuable data.
Posted by: Scott S Jul 30 2012, 03:27 PM
I actually used that entire sequence/scene as an example of a bad syllogism in a 400 level english class in college. I wheeled in the TV cart, threw in the VHS tape and sat back.
I got a "B".......
Posted by: Porschef Jul 30 2012, 03:35 PM
I actually used that entire sequence/scene as an example of a bad syllogism in a 400 level english class in college. I wheeled in the TV cart, threw in the VHS tape and sat back.
I got a "B".......
SWEET! I was always stoked with a "B"
Posted by: ape914 Jul 30 2012, 03:38 PM
[
SWEET! I was always stoked with a "B"
All whilest stoking a "j"
Posted by: scotty b Jul 30 2012, 04:00 PM
Ignorance truely is bliss I suppose...............
Posted by: DBCooper Jul 30 2012, 04:17 PM
of these Cars(914 Porsche)
Define "BASTARDIZE". Thanks.
Posted by: Dave_Darling Jul 30 2012, 04:32 PM
"Anything that does not conform to my own personal notions of good taste."
DUH!!
--DD
Posted by: Drums66 Jul 30 2012, 04:51 PM
.....Heavily alter in truly bad style & taste from it's original condition
as,DD alluded to.(we know taste is individual)
Posted by: DBCooper Jul 30 2012, 07:19 PM
Good one, Dave. And I did MEET my father....
Posted by: brant Jul 30 2012, 10:56 PM
so glad you all solved this problem for future generations!
Posted by: SUNAB914 Jul 31 2012, 09:34 AM
Where's Brian?
Posted by: underthetire Jul 31 2012, 09:36 AM
IMO,
it takes quite a bit just to get a "time out". If you already had the "time out" and continued to piss everyone off, good by!
Posted by: Scott S Jul 31 2012, 09:43 AM
Where's Brian?
at the People's Front of Judea meeting (you have to really hate the Romans....)
Posted by: KELTY360 Jul 31 2012, 09:01 PM
Posted by: 396 Aug 4 2012, 12:51 PM
We should add the members that take $ for items advertised but never shipped to this list.
Posted by: rick 918-S Aug 4 2012, 01:41 PM
I have avoided this thread for days on end while some very good 914 related topics have gone off the page. Save the drama for yer momma. Move this waste of time and list of personal problems to the sand box. Fix or drive yer cars people. 
Nothing but a bunch of mental masterbation.
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