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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ So, how was the susp.class at SSI?

Posted by: Jeroen Jan 18 2003, 10:19 PM

Got any big stories or 'nasty' pics to share?

cheers,

Jeroen

Posted by: Gint Jan 18 2003, 10:37 PM

Must still be goin on...

Posted by: Brad Roberts Jan 18 2003, 11:18 PM

I just got home.

The class wasnt much of a class. We had the wrong torsion bars and the wrong shocks.

The car has 88 Carrera front suspension and he was sold the wrong torsion bars, even though the guy said they would fit a 914/6 (bullshit) I tested them in a 4cyl adjuster cup and they slid right in. (6's and 911's are different for those of you following along at home)

The shocks where a oversite. He ordered for his 9146 which uses a internally threaded shock collar. Later cars (Carrera's) use a externally threaded strut. Soo.. no shocks. I pulled it all apart and spent a couple of hours installing the new Smart bar. Everything went smooth.

I finish it when the shocks and bars come in.

B

Posted by: J P Stein Jan 18 2003, 11:43 PM

Hey, shit happens.
I just put my new sport inserts in their strut housings.
Got em' both done and went in to have dinner.
That's when I realized that I had put the full lenght bump stop in also......sigh.

Now don't get all het up, Brad. I've got the old ones boxed up to send to Bilstein.......they are really bagged out.....maybe un-fixable. I even have Bilsteins ph#, so's I can talk at em'. The good news is that the new ones fit tightly in the housings.

Posted by: Bleyseng Jan 19 2003, 01:48 AM

Hey, I thought the class was fun. Typical owner supplied parts job, meaning the wrong parts. We stood around watching Brad try to install all the wrong stuff. I bought the torsion bars off Olav since they fit my car and not his. The swaybar set up install went really well though, great set up. Mostly we watched and tried to help. Olav has a beautiful six and I was hoping to get a chance to drive it. Too bad its not going anywhere for a couple a days. DD took pics as we went along maybe he'll post em soon.
Geoff

Posted by: Brad Roberts Jan 19 2003, 02:37 AM

The anti-roll bar install went very smooth and turned out very nice. My eyeball alignment of the mounts left the bar spinning in your fingers (no drag on the bar). I love the Smart bar.. I'll push them until I puke.

B

Posted by: olav Jan 19 2003, 02:18 PM

At least I had the correct rear shocks.

Just the fronts shocks and the torsion bars were wrong. I forgot about the fact that I upgraded to an 88 Carrera front suspension in my excitement of getting new shocks.
As for the torsion bars, oh well. The're going to be put to good use.

:toilet:

Posted by: ChrisReale Jan 21 2003, 04:05 PM

I want to see pics of the smart bar install. I want one baaaad. Brad showed a few of us at JP's how they attached to the a-arm, but my eyes glazed over just looking at the bar . They do make them in 22 or 23mm, which would be my choice.

Posted by: Dave_Darling Jan 21 2003, 04:15 PM

Sorry, I don't have a whole lot of pics. Actually, when I left at ~5:30, B was still working on installing the mounting plates on the inner fender wells. So I didn't get to see that much of the sway-bar install. Oh well.

I'll have to download the pics from the camera (later today I think) and then upload them here.

--DD

Posted by: Dave_Darling Jan 21 2003, 07:00 PM

Okay, kiddies, here we go... Gonna be a big download for those who are bandwidth-impaired!!

Note the boo-boo on the fender lip. This was caused by the tire rubbing the fender when the steering wheel was turned and the car hit a bump.

--DD

Posted by: Dave_Darling Jan 21 2003, 07:02 PM

Next, a pic of the rear wheel.

Posted by: Dave_Darling Jan 21 2003, 07:02 PM

The victim....

Posted by: Dave_Darling Jan 21 2003, 07:03 PM

Uuuuuup she goes!!

Posted by: Dave_Darling Jan 21 2003, 07:04 PM

Bending down the washer so we can remove the upper strut retaining nut.

Posted by: Dave_Darling Jan 21 2003, 07:04 PM

The washer and nut in question.

Posted by: Dave_Darling Jan 21 2003, 07:06 PM

The rear end of the torsion bar, with adjuster. (The adjusting bolt has been removed.)

Posted by: Dave_Darling Jan 21 2003, 07:06 PM

Torsion bars, new and old. (Sadly, the new ones had 19 splines while the old ones had 23...)

Posted by: Dave_Darling Jan 21 2003, 07:08 PM

The fuel tank compartment. A few years worth of dirt and grime... Olav decided to do something about that!!

Posted by: Dave_Darling Jan 21 2003, 07:09 PM

You can see the ventilation intake pretty well here...

Posted by: Dave_Darling Jan 21 2003, 07:10 PM

Olav removes the windshield washer bottle as Andy looks on.

Posted by: Dave_Darling Jan 21 2003, 07:12 PM

You can see the original 914-6 windshield washer pump and hoses in this pic!

Posted by: Dave_Darling Jan 21 2003, 07:12 PM

...And the results of Olav's work--a (mostly) clean fuel tank compartment!

...And that's all the pics I have.

Posted by: ChrisReale Jan 21 2003, 07:30 PM

Thanks Dave! The tank compartment looks much better all clean.

Posted by: olav Jan 21 2003, 08:22 PM

Another no tanker...

Posted by: olav Jan 21 2003, 08:23 PM

no right wheel.

Posted by: Porsche Rescue Jan 21 2003, 08:28 PM

Never seen the front of a 914 jacked like that. Tell me where the jack is making contact with the car.

Posted by: ChrisReale Jan 21 2003, 08:44 PM

I was wondering the same thing.

Posted by: Bleyseng Jan 21 2003, 09:04 PM

On the lift reinforcing plates, where else did ya think? I don't think Olav wanted big dents in his floorpans.......
Geoff

Posted by: Porsche Rescue Jan 21 2003, 10:05 PM

Not where the jack stands are (lift reinforcing plates, donuts, etc). I'm looking at the floor jack on page 1. It looks like the jack is under the front valance.

Posted by: mskala Jan 21 2003, 10:19 PM

I'm also curious as to what are those metal pieces just inboard of the
shock towers, I have never seen a 914 with those. Of course, they're
probably mostly hidden by the tank, but still I've had tanks out before
and not seen that curved piece.
Mark S.
'70 914-6

Posted by: dgw Jan 21 2003, 10:30 PM

Mark,

You're not talking about those pieces of carpet glued in there for the tank to rest on, are you?

Posted by: olav Jan 21 2003, 10:53 PM

Mark,

I believe those are where the front factory oil cooler lines would have gone if the car was a GT.

Posted by: Dave_Darling Jan 22 2003, 12:03 AM

The car was lifted by the front torsion bar mount. That supports a good portion of the weight of the car and is one of the standard lifting/supporting points.

Mark, I think the curved metal pieces you are referring to are just the ends of the bulkhead that goes in front of the gas tank. They were painted black on Olav's car for some reason, I'm not sure why.

--DD

Posted by: Brad Roberts Jan 22 2003, 12:33 AM

I cant figure out what Mark is talking about.

All the sixes I have ran across have been painted black around the shocks towers and bulkhead. I have NO idea why Porsche did this, but they did it on 911's also. (Black strut towers) its a sound deadening or undercoating.

99% of the time I use the round jack plate to jack up the 914's using the factory jack points. I have 2 plates and both of them where in the race car trailer 1.5 hours away. Soo.. the next best place is right on the torsion bar "skid plate"

B