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Posted by: McMark Sep 5 2012, 03:21 PM
I'm ordering a few CSP Bellcrank linkages and I figured I'd put it out as a group buy and offer a discount, as well as a package deal with the throttle cable bracket I make.
This is the best, easiest to use/install linkage available. I've used a ton of them and the build quality is outstanding and installation is dead-simple. I'm also including the throttle cable bracket that I designed specifically for this setup. That means this a complete setup for dual IDF users.
Original price for the linkage from CSP is $155 (at current exchange rates)
Original price for the throttle bracket is $35
Total retail is $190. Group buy price: $165. Closes 12/18/2012
http://www.originalcustoms.com/store/product.php?productid=6&cat=1&page=1
I will place the order with CSP on 12/18. The setups will ship from Germany to me, and then I'll reship to you. Expected shipping is the week of 1/10/2013.
Posted by: Harpo Sep 5 2012, 04:18 PM
Good afternoon Mark,
Will this fit Dells as well as Webbers?
Thanks
David
Posted by: McMark Sep 5 2012, 04:25 PM
Yup. Works for Dellorto DRLAs.
Posted by: Kansas 914 Sep 5 2012, 04:44 PM
Original price for the linkage from CSP is $155 (at current exchange rates)
Original price for the throttle bracket is $35
Total retail is $190. Group buy price: $165. Closes 9/10/2012
http://www.originalcustoms.com/store/product.php?productid=6&cat=1&page=1
I will place the order with CSP on 9/10. The setups will ship from Germany to me, and then I'll reship to you. Expected shipping is the week of 9/17/2012.
Mark,
I just placed an order via the website - nicely done and thanks a million. I can't wait to throw my hex bar in the trash!
Posted by: '73-914kid Sep 5 2012, 05:20 PM
Just out of curiosity, do these work with the tall CB intakes? I wasn't sure if the geometry would fit the tall manifolds, so I went with Chris Foley's, but have you ever used them with the taller manifolds successfully? I alsways see the CSP linkage on short manifolds, which raised the question.
Posted by: ConeDodger Sep 5 2012, 09:39 PM
Seriously good deal! This is what Mark put on my car and it works like a charm!
Posted by: ottox914 Sep 6 2012, 06:26 AM
I have this set up on the 914T, tall manifolds, and TWM ITB's. Don't know if it is the manifolds, or the ITB's, but the rods were just a bit short. YMMV. Even with needing that little fix, I love the system.
Posted by: ConeDodger Sep 6 2012, 06:48 AM
I have this set up on the 914T, tall manifolds, and TWM ITB's. Don't know if it is the manifolds, or the ITB's, but the rods were just a bit short. YMMV. Even with needing that little fix, I love the system.
Dave, the rods are probably made for narrower engines, perhaps Type 1? Mark had to get some all-thread and replace the rods on mine due to the fact that my engine is a stroker motor and has spacers moving the cylinders outboard. Still, this is the smoothest action linkage I have seen on a 914. I love it. Very cool that Mark is putting this together too because that custom piece he is including to guide the cable looks like it was original to the car... Original but custom - Original Customs!
Posted by: SLKWrx Sep 6 2012, 07:12 AM
Is the throttle bracket available on its own?
Posted by: ConeDodger Sep 6 2012, 07:37 AM
Is the throttle bracket available on its own?
Yes, $35 at Original Customs or PM McMark...
Posted by: biosurfer1 Sep 6 2012, 08:03 AM
I have both of these on my car like Rob and took great pleasure in slowly and painfully dismantling my stupid hex bar POS which was then lovingly hurled into the trash.
Mark seems to think his bracket works better than my Home Depot galvanized angle brace solution...I still maintain that flex added character to mine:)
Posted by: SLKWrx Sep 6 2012, 09:47 AM
Is the throttle bracket available on its own?
Yes, $35 at Original Customs or PM McMark...
Great! Thanks.
Posted by: ConeDodger Sep 6 2012, 10:34 AM
I have both of these on my car like Rob and took great pleasure in slowly and painfully dismantling my stupid hex bar POS which was then lovingly hurled into the trash.
Mark seems to think his bracket works better than my Home Depot galvanized angle brace solution...I still maintain that flex added character to mine:)
My hex bar dismantled itself once. All of a sudden on my way back from Mark's first drive from his shop in Napa it started running like shizit. I had it towed back to Mark's shop and Yopu came down to get me from Sacramento. Turned out the hex bar had self-destructed and had to be welded back together...
These things need to be trash-canned.
Posted by: hcdmueller Sep 6 2012, 12:05 PM
Any chance you will ship to an APO address? I would love to order this setup.
Chris
Posted by: maf914 Sep 6 2012, 12:46 PM
Mark,
I placed an order with payment from your website. Thanks!
Posted by: McMark Sep 6 2012, 02:44 PM
Any chance you will ship to an APO address? I would love to order this setup.
Chris
Never done it, but I'm willing to learn.
Posted by: aircooledtechguy Sep 6 2012, 04:31 PM
This linkage is absolutely the BEST thing to happen to a pair of Webers or Dellortos. If you pay a mechanic to occasionally tune the carbs, this linkage extends the time between carb tunes due to linkage changes. IE: it will pay for itself in a couple years of use.
Don't think about it; just do it!! 
Posted by: billh1963 Sep 7 2012, 06:02 AM
Bought one!
Posted by: Michelj13 Sep 7 2012, 08:30 AM
This linkage is absolutely the BEST thing to happen to a pair of Webers or Dellortos. If you pay a mechanic to occasionally tune the carbs, this linkage extends the time between carb tunes due to linkage changes. IE: it will pay for itself in a couple years of use.
Don't think about it; just do it!!
I do not have any experience with this type of linkage, but, it has to be better than the hex bar type from CB, Weber, and one more can't remember the name that I DO have experience with. Especially when used in the 914 there always seems to be something in the way or something not right to achieve full throttle and even sync. Just my experience IIRC. If I ever need a dual linkage setup, this is the type I would get.
Posted by: ww914 Sep 7 2012, 09:06 AM
Here is another photo of this setup. It is simple and reliable.
Posted by: rdauenhauer Sep 7 2012, 09:35 AM
Posted by: hcdmueller Sep 7 2012, 10:06 AM
Any chance you will ship to an APO address? I would love to order this setup.
Chris
Never done it, but I'm willing to learn.
Shipping is through US Postal Service. You have to fill out a customs form. It is a military address in the US that delivers stuff to me in Germany. If that works let me know.
Thanks,
Chris
Posted by: ConeDodger Sep 7 2012, 10:15 AM
Any chance you will ship to an APO address? I would love to order this setup.
Chris
Never done it, but I'm willing to learn.
Shipping is through US Postal Service. You have to fill out a customs form. It is a military address in the US that delivers stuff to me in Germany. If that works let me know.
Thanks,
Chris
He can do it!
You brought your car to Germany?
Posted by: hcdmueller Sep 7 2012, 10:17 AM
I had no choice. Who wouldn't take their 914 to Germany if they had the chance. Just wish my work schedule didn't suck so much. I don't get to drive it as much as I would like.
Posted by: McMark Sep 7 2012, 06:28 PM
Yeah, no prob.
Posted by: hcdmueller Sep 8 2012, 05:19 AM
Can I make the order without going through your store? I can paypal you directly. The store gives an error with my address.
Posted by: bobhasissues Sep 8 2012, 08:18 AM
I have the CSP and love it compared to hexbar.
I set mine up a bit different than the CSP instructions show with excellent results and a better fit. Was wondering if anyone else tried this:
Set the bell crank to pull forward from the driver side rather than from the passenger side. Mount throttle cable to driver side of case. Connect the passenger side rod to the (back) flywheel side of the bellcrank and the driver side to the front side of the crank. The end result is a better alignment of the push rods and a cleaner look.
Posted by: biosurfer1 Sep 8 2012, 09:15 AM
Bob, this is how I have mine set up too...didn't even realize it was "wrong" until Mark told me. He also said there really isn't a wrong way to mount them...there is simply a working way and a non-working way. Pretty easy to figure out which is which:)
Posted by: Harpo Sep 8 2012, 10:06 AM
Good morning
Could you please post a photo?
Thanks
David
Posted by: McMark Sep 8 2012, 11:03 AM
There are a couple photos on the eStore. All my pics are at work.
Posted by: no1uno Sep 9 2012, 01:00 PM
just ordered one. Thanks!
Posted by: euro911 Sep 9 2012, 01:39 PM
I purchased one back in February - Love it!
... and they do make one specifically for Type-4s (CSP129941400) ... the mounting is different for Type-1s and -2s too.
Posted by: John Jentz Sep 10 2012, 09:53 AM
I'm in, you've been PayPal'd.
Posted by: hcdmueller Sep 10 2012, 11:02 AM
Can't wait to get mine.
Posted by: RoadGlue Sep 10 2012, 05:38 PM
Ordered mine! Mark, remind me to give you cash for the throttle cable bracket when we meet up. 
Posted by: Gearhead1432 Sep 10 2012, 11:15 PM
Bummer, I just tried to place an order and it gave me an error message. Can I use paypal directly?
Thanks,
-Rob
Posted by: ConeDodger Sep 10 2012, 11:49 PM
Here are a couple more pics... This is good quality throttle control in a world of junk.
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Posted by: Harpo Sep 21 2012, 05:22 PM
Good afternoon Mark,
Could you give us an update?
Thanks
David
Posted by: ConeDodger Sep 22 2012, 03:33 PM
Good afternoon Mark,
Could you give us an update?
Thanks
David
Patience David, Mark is out of town until Wednesday next week. Original Customs is still open because Mark has employees, but he is out of town. Not sure how much internet time he will have.
Posted by: Gint Sep 23 2012, 09:37 AM
Even prices on 914 parts are going up. 4 years ago that linkage from CSP was $89.
That's a great product offer Mark. I may need a bracket.
Posted by: euro911 Sep 23 2012, 01:12 PM
Posted by: billh1963 Oct 23 2012, 07:20 AM
Any updates? Could really use the one I paid fone now that I am getting ready to put my dual Dells on an engine.
Posted by: McMark Oct 23 2012, 09:18 AM
I sent out an email to all the buyers. Only heard back from a few. CSP is updating the design to include a return spring (which is a great new benefit). I'll contact them again and get an updated timeline. If you need one ASAP, PM me and we'll figure something out.
Posted by: billh1963 Oct 23 2012, 10:35 AM
I sent out an email to all the buyers. Only heard back from a few. CSP is updating the design to include a return spring (which is a great new benefit). I'll contact them again and get an updated timeline. If you need one ASAP, PM me and we'll figure something out.
I can wait a couple more weeks. Just got my powder coated engine tin back and over the next few weeks will be reassembling.
Posted by: McMark Oct 23 2012, 01:21 PM
I'll post as soon as I hear back from Gunter. 
Posted by: McMark Oct 26 2012, 10:30 AM
Just got word that production on these will happen in Mid-Nov with the new design. If this doesn't work for anyone, just PM me and we'll see about getting you an old-style linkage.
Posted by: billh1963 Oct 26 2012, 11:08 AM
I can wait...awesome news!
Posted by: aharder Oct 26 2012, 12:24 PM
Time is on my side so I can kick back have a few 
and wait
Posted by: SLKWrx Oct 26 2012, 01:22 PM
Mark,
Does the delay include the cable holder? I emailed a few days ago about the one I purchased and haven't heard anything back.
Posted by: McMark Nov 29 2012, 11:31 AM
Just got this update from CSP. Anyone else who's thinking of jumping on this group buy can still get in.
some components are still missing and production is scheduled for mid of December.
Gunter is on Holiday and will be back next week.
Posted by: ConeDodger Nov 29 2012, 11:40 AM
Sorry Mark. I am just seeing your question now. As my car has SDS injection, it has to have a vacuum signal to the MAF. The intakes are plumbed to a common plenum and then on one side of that box to the MAF and the other to a factory AAR. A little bit of Original Customs magic. I had nothing to do with that. I left it with Mark and he sent me picture updates...
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Posted by: rdauenhauer Nov 29 2012, 01:59 PM
Time line?
Posted by: McMark Nov 29 2012, 02:00 PM
From my post from earlier today....
some components are still missing and production is scheduled for mid of December.
Posted by: rhodyguy Nov 30 2012, 10:19 AM
USPS priority large box flat rate to military APO/FPO/DPO addresses is $13.45. $2 cheaper than 'anywhere in the U.S' and the boxes are free. great deal.
k
Posted by: rdauenhauer Dec 15 2012, 03:18 PM
From my post from earlier today.... some components are still missing and production is scheduled for mid of December.
Posted by: McMark Dec 17 2012, 12:23 PM
Just got word from CSP that they're finished with the retooling and are ready to fulfill the order. With the holidays and shipping from Germany to me, I expect these will be in your hands early to mid Jan.
Anyone else that wants to get in on the order still can.
Posted by: ConeDodger Dec 17 2012, 12:36 PM
Just got word from CSP that they're finished with the retooling and are ready to fulfill the order. With the holidays and shipping from Germany to me, I expect these will be in your hands early to mid Jan.
Anyone else that wants to get in on the order still can.
Can we still get in on the order?
Wait for it... wait for it... demeaning look is coming in 3...2...1...
Posted by: McMark Dec 17 2012, 12:41 PM
Did you feel it? 
Posted by: Gint Dec 17 2012, 07:36 PM
I'll take one. Are these rods longer to accommodate the extra width of the type IV?
Posted by: ConeDodger Dec 17 2012, 08:49 PM
Did you feel it?
It was stealth but I felt a chill and I shivered and I knew, McMark must have just given me a demeaning look... Again.
Posted by: ConeDodger Dec 17 2012, 08:58 PM
I'll take one. Are these rods longer to accommodate the extra width of the type IV?
Mike, I don't think Mark has had trouble with these 'out of the box' with any other TypeIV but mine. He had used them on a lot of his motors before mine. Mine has at least a 1/4" spacer under the cylinders.
Posted by: Gint Dec 17 2012, 10:13 PM
No, it's been a long time, but I got to thinking about it and IIRC, the one I got years ago had rods that were were not long enough also. I can't confirm that though, because now I can't find the rods.
Posted by: McMark Dec 17 2012, 10:59 PM
Just found out today that longer rods are available from CSP. So I'm ordering some spares of those in case people run into problems with width. But these are designed for the Type IV. Brett (biosurfer1) installed his with the provided rods.
Posted by: Gint Dec 17 2012, 11:10 PM
Sweet! I'm in. And since I can't find mine...
Can't seem to find a button on your site to add it to my cart.
Posted by: McMark Dec 17 2012, 11:18 PM
Whoops it had 'sold out'. I fixed it.
Posted by: Gint Dec 17 2012, 11:50 PM
Ordered. Gracias
Posted by: billh1963 Dec 30 2012, 08:13 PM
Glad to hear these are finally coming in! I should be getting mine around the time I get my green car back from ScottyB....might be experiment time!
Posted by: Gint Dec 30 2012, 10:10 PM
My carb rebuilds are done. I get to put that stupid cross bar linkage back on this week and sync carbs. For all of a month... yuk.
Posted by: hydroliftin Jan 8 2013, 10:37 PM
Any update on when these will ship?
Posted by: McMark Jan 14 2013, 02:19 PM
The linkages have arrived in the US and are in transit via USPS to me.
Posted by: billh1963 Jan 14 2013, 02:33 PM
The linkages have arrived in the US and are in transit via USPS to me.
Awesome! Can't wait
Posted by: RoadGlue Jan 14 2013, 02:48 PM
Yippeeeee!
Thanks Mark.
Posted by: Harpo Jan 14 2013, 04:56 PM
Great news, thanks for the update
David
Posted by: somd914 Jan 14 2013, 05:23 PM
Been needing to tweak my hex bar linkage but I've been holding off - looks like tossing it rather than tweaking it will soon be in order!
Thanks Mark
Posted by: hydroliftin Jan 14 2013, 07:48 PM
Wooh-hop! I can hardly wait to pull out that hex bar.
Posted by: McMark Jan 22 2013, 10:11 AM
I have a huge box of linkage kits beside my desk. 
These will get packed up and shipped to buyers sometime later this week. Thanks for everyones patience.
Posted by: SUNAB914 Jan 22 2013, 01:48 PM
By any chance you got an extra for sale, just saw this thread.
Posted by: John Jentz Jan 22 2013, 01:50 PM
I have a huge box of linkage kits beside my desk.
These will get packed up and shipped to buyers sometime later this week. Thanks for everyones patience.
Cool! Just like Christmas all over again!
Posted by: RoadGlue Jan 22 2013, 02:40 PM
I may be in slow-noma this weekend. What day(s) will you be there? Maybe grab a beer while we're there?
Posted by: aharder Jan 22 2013, 09:16 PM
Sweet
I've been 
trying to get my carbs in sync.
Posted by: billh1963 Jan 28 2013, 07:50 PM
Have these shipped yet? BTW: Did you get my PM? Wanted to make sure you have my correct address.
Posted by: Harpo Feb 2 2013, 06:58 PM
Good evening Mark,
Could you please give us an update?
Thanks
David
Posted by: McMark Feb 3 2013, 07:55 PM
Shipping out tomorrow. My employee was out sick all last week and all the things I had planned got screwed up.
Posted by: McMark Feb 6 2013, 10:07 AM
Linkages should start arriving in mailboxes anytime...
Posted by: aharder Feb 6 2013, 12:10 PM
Thanks Mark !!!!
Posted by: RoadGlue Feb 6 2013, 12:24 PM
Ditto!
Maybe we'll see you Friday? Let's keep in touch. I need to head out to the race track to pick up an exhaust system for Dug. I may do that over the weekend, which means I could swing by the shop if you're there. We'll chat via email.
Woo hoo! One less thing to not have think about.
Randy
Posted by: RoadGlue Feb 6 2013, 02:15 PM
Ha! Well I spoke too soon. It just arrived here at the office. Thanks Mark!
Posted by: hydroliftin Feb 6 2013, 09:07 PM
Bellcrank arived today! Now I can get the carbs sorted out. Thanks Mark.
Posted by: McMark Feb 6 2013, 09:15 PM
One thing I need to email everyone about is that you may find it worked better to route the throttle cable between the engine shelf and the engine tin. The angle is slightly better for the cable to mount in the new black bracket.
Also, use the picture in the first post as a guide.
Posted by: billh1963 Feb 7 2013, 07:42 AM
Got mine yesterday...well worth the wait! Thank you!
Posted by: John Jentz Feb 7 2013, 12:56 PM
Got it, looks great, BUT where's the return spring? I thought it was supposed to have one built in.
Posted by: hydroliftin Feb 8 2013, 09:13 AM
What is the torque spec for the bolts holding the bellcrank and cable bracket to the engine case?
Posted by: McMark Feb 8 2013, 11:17 AM
No specific torque. Just snug it down against the washers.
Posted by: somd914 Feb 8 2013, 11:32 AM
I sent out an email to all the buyers. Only heard back from a few. CSP is updating the design to include a return spring (which is a great new benefit). I'll contact them again and get an updated timeline. If you need one ASAP, PM me and we'll figure something out.
I too am confused - no return spring. But otherwise very sweet.
Posted by: euro911 Feb 8 2013, 11:46 AM
Do you guys have the original Weber springs on the throttle shafts? 
They were missing on my carbs, so I bought some new ones from EMW. You can get them from CB Performance, as well as a few other sources.
I added an additional spring (at the bell-crank) that I picked up at a local hardware store.
Posted by: somd914 Feb 8 2013, 03:28 PM
Yep I have springs on my carbs, so no big deal, just curious as I thought the delay was do to the new design/manufacturing effort which included some sort of return spring.
No matter the linkage looks great, think it will be a good improvement, and I appreciate Mark handling the GB.
Posted by: Gint Feb 8 2013, 10:28 PM
Got mine today. 
Did a trial fit. Perfect. Thanks Mark. Is this bracket painted or powder coated? I might need to bend it a little and end up needing some touch up.
Posted by: RoadGlue Feb 9 2013, 12:48 AM
The bracket is powder coated. Just saw Mark tonight and the topic came up.
Posted by: Gint Feb 9 2013, 02:22 PM
Thanks Randy
Posted by: Gint Feb 11 2013, 06:30 PM
Got mine installed late yesterday. Ball sockets that actually pop off. I still need to synch and remove the crossbar plate from the top of the carbs. But synching should be a lot easier.
Posted by: John Jentz Feb 12 2013, 10:25 AM
Did yours have the built in return spring?
Posted by: McMark Feb 12 2013, 10:32 AM
I emailed Gunter again to see what's up. I just looked again at the CSP site and perhaps it's compatible with http://csp-shop.de/cgi-bin/cshop2/front/shop_main.cgi?func=det&wkid=43231730495&rub1=Engine&rub2=Fuel%20System%2CCarburator%20Linkages%2CBellcrank%20Linkages&artnr=20650a&pn=0&sort=0&all= which is an add on option.
Hopefully I will hear back from Gunter soon and we can see about ordering the spring for those who want them.
Posted by: biosurfer1 Feb 12 2013, 01:45 PM
Count me in for a spring
Posted by: Gint Feb 14 2013, 10:00 AM
Posted by: Gint Feb 17 2013, 09:50 PM
That works great! What an improvement over those stupid cross bar linkages.
Posted by: Harpo Feb 18 2013, 07:49 PM
Please add me to the list for the additional return spring
Thanks
DAvid
Posted by: billh1963 Feb 20 2013, 06:53 AM
Didn't look closely at mine....I also thought these were going to have the built in return spring. Put me down for a spring.
Posted by: Gint Feb 20 2013, 07:00 AM
I'm not using a spring other than what's on the carb shafts. Works great!
Posted by: DBCooper Feb 20 2013, 07:30 AM
Unless there's something wrong with your carburetors you shouldn't need an additional return spring. That linkage is so low friction that it doesn't "add" anything. That's not to say you don't need a spring, I don't know, but if you do you might want to take a look at your throttle cable, or your carb's throttle shafts.
Posted by: Gint Feb 21 2013, 06:58 AM
Or at least get it installed first! 
You don't know that you don't need a return spring unless you've tried it.
Posted by: John Jentz Apr 9 2013, 09:25 AM
Any news about the spring?????
Posted by: ConeDodger Apr 9 2013, 03:36 PM
Any news about the spring?????
Yes, and it's good news too! It's Spring!
Posted by: McMark Apr 11 2013, 12:21 AM
I've tried several times to get info from CSP about the return spring. The bottom line is that I haven't gotten any word that there is a spring made specifically for our setup. The T1 spring may work, but I won't have time to do any research into this aspect.
Posted by: B2524 Apr 13 2013, 09:58 AM
Are any of these still available, I missed this thread. Thanks,
Kd
Posted by: rmital Apr 27 2013, 11:18 AM
I'm ordering a few CSP Bellcrank linkages and I figured I'd put it out as a group buy and offer a discount, as well as a package deal with the throttle cable bracket I make.
This is the best, easiest to use/install linkage available. I've used a ton of them and the build quality is outstanding and installation is dead-simple. I'm also including the throttle cable bracket that I designed specifically for this setup. That means this a complete setup for dual IDF users.
Original price for the linkage from CSP is $155 (at current exchange rates)
Original price for the throttle bracket is $35
Total retail is $190. Group buy price: $165. Closes 12/18/2012
http://www.originalcustoms.com/store/product.php?productid=6&cat=1&page=1
I will place the order with CSP on 12/18. The setups will ship from Germany to me, and then I'll reship to you. Expected shipping is the week of 1/10/2013.
I installed the linkage, very nice....and the bracket....the barrel of the accelerator cable is past the connection point (cable too long)?
anyone have this issue? did this last night, finished up around midnight, so going to take another look when I get home today; but certainly seems the accel cable is just too long.....
Posted by: McMark Apr 27 2013, 02:39 PM
There is a ball-socket at the pedal. This should be threaded all the way on. If not it can cause the problem you're looking at.
And while you've got your head in the pedal cluster, make sure the throttle stop isn't bent and allowing the throttle to return farther than normal. And inspect the throttle arm at the cluster to make sure the rod isn't bending. The arm to rod should be 90 degrees/ right-angle.
Posted by: LotusJoe Jul 25 2013, 08:18 PM
Is this setup still available?
Posted by: Dtjaden Jul 25 2013, 08:49 PM
Can anyone compare this to the Tangerine cable linkage (ignoring the price difference)?
Posted by: ConeDodger Jul 25 2013, 09:57 PM
The CSP is crazy good. I can't speak for the Tangerine though Chris pretty much universally makes great product...
Posted by: McMark Jul 25 2013, 11:19 PM
I think I have a couple, send me a PM.
Posted by: r_towle Jul 26 2013, 02:16 PM
I've tried several times to get info from CSP about the return spring. The bottom line is that I haven't gotten any word that there is a spring made specifically for our setup. The T1 spring may work, but I won't have time to do any research into this aspect.
Post a pic of the spring if this is still a problem.
We had good success with MSC or McMaster Carr when we needed springs, they have all springs...
Looks like (from what pictures I see here) the spring would be part of the bell crank, so its a torsion spring.
They have a hug section of these at the two HW vendors above...
We order ten different ones for a robot once, kept trying them till we found the right tension for the application...
They were pretty cheap.
rich
Posted by: JFG Oct 10 2017, 12:36 PM
Does anyone have pictures of the carbs where the csp plates fit? I can't tell which one they're calling left or right and the images in the instructions are blackened photocopies
Posted by: nditiz1 Oct 10 2017, 01:04 PM
Does anyone have pictures of the carbs where the csp plates fit? I can't tell which one they're calling left or right and the images in the instructions are blackened photocopies
McMark made a pretty good video showing the setup. Look for his vid here. I believe you are wondering about the rods. They attach to the carb plates. They are very similar to the hex bar setup you had on there.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=317510
Posted by: JFG Oct 10 2017, 01:39 PM
I'll watch that video in full tomorrow.
My confusion is the instructions refer to right/left carbs and the throttle plates provided in the kit replaces one of them?
Have users connected them to the standard plates that come with the carbs?
Posted by: Perry Kiehl Oct 10 2017, 05:50 PM
I'll watch that video in full tomorrow.
My confusion is the instructions refer to right/left carbs and the throttle plates provided in the kit replaces one of them?
Have users connected them to the standard plates that come with the carbs?
You have to put an adapter on each one. When you have the parts in front of you, you can see it's simple and very straight forward
Posted by: simonjb Aug 31 2018, 08:59 AM
Help, but which Carb is left and which is right? I am installing and trying to following the instructions. Thanks !
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