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Posted by: speed metal army Sep 19 2012, 10:39 PM

smile.gif smile.gif I think I actually started this a year ago.I bought a 5.3 out of a wrecked Silverado with almost no k's.(11,000 IIRC)I went back and forth,should I,shouldnt I...I actually called the fella who was going to build it for me and asked him to sell it for me. biggrin.gif

Then,as luck would have it,my car was giving me grief early this summer.D-jet hassles,etc.No surprise,I dropped a valve seat.At this point I was pretty sick of DJet(had some sweet Italian Webers in the wings lol),and really wasnt feeling the big 4 idea,though I had collected parts already.I just wanted to drive my car. mad.gif I wanted to be able to turn the key,and get instant fun and reliability(motor wise),and yeah wayyyy more power than the 2.0 was giving me.Needless to say,the dropped seat made me make up my mind much quicker which direction I was going to go.After reading a bunch of V8 threads,and some you tube stuff(Especially Byndbads vids and car,that thing just kills)I put the wheels in motion.

The motor I bought is an LS Iron blocked engine,and came with FI.But Truck FI.(quite tall)My buddy Murray at Real Horsepower had been doing carb'd LS's for a while,I like carbs,so we converted it to a carb'd motor.We used the MSD programming module to run the coil packs,bolted up a LS carb manifold(Edelbrock) and put on a Holley 670cfm Street Avenger.The other thing about the 5.3 Truck motors are the pan.Quite deep.Too deep!No sweat,Murray had a brand new takeoff from a 2010 Vette he did in 2010. smile.gif Its nice and shallow,lotsa clearance.

Week 1-12
I phoned Renegade,ordered the loot and waited.In the meanwhile I mounted the fuel pump and filter(Did Sir Andy's cool fuel pump trick) and started to cut up the front of my car a bit. beer3.gif (The guy in the car is my buddy Andrew.I owe him big for all his help!)I tig'd in woven SS mesh to keep birds and 2x4's out.The rear firewall had lots of shitty old brown glue on it,and the battery tray sucked too.I welded in a new tray and got my body guy to respray the firewall as well as the mesh.(After lizard skinning it)
I ripped out all the carpets,fixed an ugly spot under the drivers side seat and welded the Engman kit in.My body guy sprayed lizard skin over the entire floor/inner firewall.
I also repalced the throttle,and clutch cables as well as ran a new 3/8" SS fuel line through the tunnel.Installed Racer Chris's Sway Bar.
I had a nice uncracked dash top saved for this,so it went in too.I also installed a new black carpet kit for good measure.
Bought a high torque starter.Put in all new brake hoses and 320 calipers in the front.Installed the tee.
Whew!

Week 9

Cooling system from RH came! beerchug.gif Installed it and ran some wiring for it too.

Week 12

The rest of the RH stuff came!(In the most destroyed boxes I have ever seen,but thats another story lol)
I dumped it all off at Real Horsepower.Murray went on vacation for 2 weeks!!AARRGGGGG!! biggrin.gif Im still learning how to be patient!lol
Anways,Murray came back and he bolted the whole works together.The one thing RH doesnt make a provision for is the Iron block LS's are missing a tapped hole for their alternator mount.(We used a single wire 120 amp alt BTW)Murray and I made a slick mount that you can see in the pics.
I called Murray and said"Hey,give me a shout before you bolt that thing in the car,I want a couple of pics!"He told me i'd better get my ass over there now,cause it was in progress! aktion035.gif

Murray's a cool guy.Hes not a Porsche guy tho.He has his shop full of beautiful(customers,and his own) hotrods.When I told him what we were up to,(the conversion I mean) He didnt even bat an eye.He was in.I told him I wanted to do as much of it as I had time for,and that I had to do the exhaust.I told him I would take the car elsewhere to work on the stuff I wanted to do myself,and he refused.Murray is a cool guy.

The other cool thing about this whole thing was the reaction from the regulars,and his new customers too."That is going in there?? That is super cool!!"My little car was on the lift,surrounded by $100k Hotrods,and it was the Belle of the ball. biggrin.gif
While I was there,there were at least 4-5 phone calls to Murray from his cronies."It it running yet?Have you driven it yet?"

Anyway,Murray and I probably did the whole install of the motor/transaxle in about 4.5 days,including Andrew and I doing the exhaust.Murray held up the old wiring harness and said"Tom this thing is kinda scary!Im not using it!" So,all the wiring got a nice upgrade in the bay.I used the Parkerflex coolant hose,expensive,but very tough and can bend into a tight,tight radius with zero collapse.Yes I ran hose under the car.It bugs me.(I wish I was more patient and ran SS like I will do for next season,but I simply did not have time.The sun is running away!)
The goodies from Renegade all worked as they should.Thier instructions are stromberg.gif biggrin.gif No,really they need an update and I told them so!Hi Scott,Steve, Ian! Despite the "Instructions" The parts,and the guys at RH are top shelf.I called,I got answers.Really good guys. beerchug.gif

Murray and I started the car.It was almost alien!Ive started the car many times,but this time it lit up in 1/2 a revolution,and sounded crazy!It was odd at first,my little green car sounding that way,but not in a bad way.More like a "Oh thats much better"kinda way!We filled it with water(Also weird as hell)and follwed the burping procedure. That was last night.This morning I got to drive my car! evilgrin.gif

Its crazy.The car feels the same,but just wayyy more assertive.Im taking it easy,because of clutch break in,but wow.Its so much more fun you couldnt beat the smile off my face with a baseball bat.My car is "fixed" beerchug.gif The cooling system works flawlessly,it sounds tough,and is scary fast.I loved my car when it was stock.It still feels that way,just more.
I had two guys tailgaiting the hell out of me on the way home(My maiden voyage of considerable distance,45 min)to the point that I pulled over.They also pulled over,and I immediately thought"Shit!somethings on fire!" Nah.They wanted to know what was in the car! biggrin.gif Jeesh!
Anyhoo,here is some pics of the process.It was fun as hell.(though,it would have been cooler if it was done 9 weeks ago lol)
Thanks to
Mikey 914
Andrew
Murray@Real Horsepower Hotrods
Cheers!! beerchug.gif beer3.gif

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Posted by: speed metal army Sep 19 2012, 10:49 PM

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Heads up!This is the bracket you need to fab for the LS IB to make RH's Alt bracket fly.Heads up!This is also a terrible photo!Ill dig for a better one.
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Posted by: Andyrew Sep 19 2012, 11:00 PM

WOW that is one clean install!

Congrats! You should be proud! (Tig'ed SS exhaust is a very nice touch)

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Cool bonus for me.The Tuner guy shows up.Hes a highschool pal of mine ive not seen in 19 yrs!The very first drive I took in the car,Brian(The tuner/Buddy of mine from GR 12)was sitting in the passenger seat with a cable flapping away over the targa bar programming away while we bullshitted about the good ol days!

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Posted by: balljoint Sep 19 2012, 11:59 PM

Very sweet. smile.gif

Posted by: matthepcat Sep 20 2012, 12:32 AM

Very clean! Like everything about the car....but a carburetor??!!


It's like getting to the Olympics, and then sleeping in past the alarm. smile.gif

Posted by: Drums66 Sep 20 2012, 01:54 AM

...Very sanitary man!(monster power plant) thumb3d.gif
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Posted by: bulitt Sep 20 2012, 04:02 AM

Very Nice! Couple of questions.
Why the carb on backwards? Easier to install the throttle linkage?
Stock linkage?
Did the Avenger need alot of adjusting?
Where did you get the metal mesh?

Posted by: SLKWrx Sep 20 2012, 06:03 AM

Awesome install. You do really great work. Though, all I thought of when I read the title was: IPB Image

Posted by: ottox914 Sep 20 2012, 06:28 AM

Looks great. Bet it drives great as well. Hopefully that awesome exhaust doesn't melt any wires near by. But I suspect as clean as this install is, that has been addresses and any melting danger is just the perspective of the photo and not a real problem. Does that beast run an air cleaner, and how does it fit under the engine lid?

Nice, nice, nice.

Posted by: tomeric914 Sep 20 2012, 06:38 AM

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Where did you get the metal mesh?

http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-wire-mesh/=jdg639

Posted by: speed metal army Sep 20 2012, 08:24 AM

QUOTE(bulitt @ Sep 20 2012, 03:02 AM) *

Very Nice! Couple of questions.
Why the carb on backwards? Easier to install the throttle linkage?
Stock linkage?
Did the Avenger need alot of adjusting?
Where did you get the metal mesh?

Easier to mount the linkage!
Almost no adjustment at all.The carb idled a shade high out of the box,that was it.
The pmesh is a 10 ga ss wove mesh from a local supplier. smile.gif

Posted by: speed metal army Sep 20 2012, 08:27 AM

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Very clean! Like everything about the car....but a carburetor??!!


It's like getting to the Olympics, and then sleeping in past the alarm. smile.gif

Ha! I knew someone would rip on the carb. I dig carbs,and if I want ( doubt it ) i can run FI later. I didnt have to cut up my engine bay at all either. This configuration( so far) is way more than I can use anyways. Plus it looks cool! aktion035.gif

Posted by: speed metal army Sep 20 2012, 08:30 AM

QUOTE(ottox914 @ Sep 20 2012, 05:28 AM) *

Looks great. Bet it drives great as well. Hopefully that awesome exhaust doesn't melt any wires near by. But I suspect as clean as this install is, that has been addresses and any melting danger is just the perspective of the photo and not a real problem. Does that beast run an air cleaner, and how does it fit under the engine lid?

Nice, nice, nice.

Thanks! The wires are safely tucked away,i think its an in progress pic. I can close the lid,and do run an air cleaner. Im going to make one for myself that uses a k&n 4" cone.
With this setup,it barely fits under there.

Posted by: porbmw Sep 20 2012, 08:40 AM

Wow!
Nicely done.
Hope to get a chance to see/hear it sometime!
That pretty well ups the ante around here...!
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Posted by: ballioint Sep 20 2012, 09:29 AM

Can we see the front bumper? Curious on how it looks. The rest of it looks amazing!

Posted by: speed metal army Sep 20 2012, 10:02 AM

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Can we see the front bumper? Curious on how it looks. The rest of it looks amazing!

You can!I will take a pic for you.Its super stealth.One cool thing about the big rubber bumpers.(Plus I dig the way they look) smile.gif

Posted by: speed metal army Sep 20 2012, 10:17 AM

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Wow!
Nicely done.
Hope to get a chance to see/hear it sometime!
That pretty well ups the ante around here...!
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Im cruising to Stanley park on Saturday! smile.gif

Posted by: porbmw Sep 20 2012, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(porbmw @ Sep 20 2012, 07:40 AM) *

Wow!
Nicely done.
Hope to get a chance to see/hear it sometime!
That pretty well ups the ante around here...!
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Im cruising to Stanley park on Saturday! smile.gif


Damn.
Well.....
I'm going up country to put on a roof...will be there a few weekends....hopefully done before the snow flies. shades.gif

Posted by: mittelmotor Sep 20 2012, 12:00 PM

Congrats! Your exhaust looks super clean (and the entire install). beerchug.gif It's kinda magical the way it gets up to speed so quickly, with so little effort. I've driven a lot of powerful cars, but the way the front end gets light under acceleration (in 3rd or 4th!) is really a rush.

Posted by: Strudelwagon Sep 20 2012, 12:00 PM

OK, you all should know that this conversion was done in secret and that no animals where used for testing during process. Oh ya, and I knew all about it the whole time! happy11.gif
That is one insane transplant SPEED! screwy.gif

Now Just DRIVE!......and get a real camera tongue.gif

Posted by: speed metal army Sep 20 2012, 01:48 PM

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OK, you all should know that this conversion was done in secret and that no animals where used for testing during process. Oh ya, and I knew all about it the whole time! happy11.gif
That is one insane transplant SPEED! screwy.gif

Now Just DRIVE!......and get a real camera tongue.gif

Haha!I drove Strudel crazy probably phoning him all the time about this! biggrin.gif
And yeah,I am no photographer!

Posted by: Strudelwagon Sep 20 2012, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(Strudelwagon @ Sep 20 2012, 11:00 AM) *

OK, you all should know that this conversion was done in secret and that no animals where used for testing during process. Oh ya, and I knew all about it the whole time! happy11.gif
That is one insane transplant SPEED! screwy.gif

Now Just DRIVE!......and get a real camera tongue.gif

Haha!I drove Strudel crazy probably phoning him all the time about this! biggrin.gif
And yeah,I am no photographer!


Ya, I was living Vicariously through Speed......The dude was focused and Gotterdone! Maybe if I say some more nice stuff he'll make me a Badass Stainless exhaust like the new on Lime green Rocket welder.gif

Posted by: zymurgist Sep 20 2012, 03:24 PM

Cool build. thumb3d.gif

Posted by: speed metal army Sep 20 2012, 08:10 PM

Here is the front end,and a couple of shots from a distance.What conversion? biggrin.gif

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Temps stay steady at 190-205. beer3.gif

Posted by: Pass45 Sep 20 2012, 09:00 PM

i have a 5.3 in my jeep it runs 193 at slow speeds when the fan is on 197 at highway speeds and 205-210 when im beating on it. looks like your cooling system is working perfect

Posted by: shuie Sep 20 2012, 09:10 PM

Nice build. Very clean.

Posted by: Andyrew Sep 21 2012, 09:02 AM

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Here is the front end,and a couple of shots from a distance.What conversion? biggrin.gif

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Hope that works for you! The LS motors do run cooler than the typical SB's...

Posted by: matthepcat Sep 21 2012, 10:30 AM

I always thought that the all aluminum LS motors run hotter than SBC. That is why they are a good fit for the 914 conversions.


EDIT: Yours is the cast bottom end...nevermind.

Posted by: speed metal army Sep 21 2012, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(speed metal army @ Sep 20 2012, 07:10 PM) *

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Hope that works for you! The LS motors do run cooler than the typical SB's...

Seems fine so far!Ive been keeping an eye on it.The big bumpers have a huge void inside them,and actually sit 2" or so away from the bulkhead.I can always add holes if need be,but so far so good!Ive even been keeping track of temps with a small handheld infrared temp gun.

Posted by: mittelmotor Sep 21 2012, 02:36 PM

It also helps that you're in Vancouver. biggrin.gif I've sized my cutouts for stop-and-go traffic and 100-degree ambient temps here in the Pacific Southwest.

Posted by: speed metal army Sep 21 2012, 05:09 PM

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It also helps that you're in Vancouver. biggrin.gif I've sized my cutouts for stop-and-go traffic and 100-degree ambient temps here in the Pacific Southwest.

Haha! It sure does! It did get up to 28 yesterday tho..Thats like 83 or so! biggrin.gif
Like i said,the temps are really controlled so far.I can always cut more!
I drove the car all day today. What a blast! driving.gif

Posted by: mittelmotor Sep 21 2012, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(mittelmotor @ Sep 21 2012, 01:36 PM) *

It also helps that you're in Vancouver. biggrin.gif I've sized my cutouts for stop-and-go traffic and 100-degree ambient temps here in the Pacific Southwest.

Haha! It sure does! It did get up to 28 yesterday tho..Thats like 83 or so! biggrin.gif
Like i said,the temps are really controlled so far.I can always cut more!
I drove the car all day today. What a blast! driving.gif

Nice! I'm still taking mine out for a spin every night at about 10 when the roads are clear, hunting down a Civic Si or two. piratenanner.gif

Posted by: dakotaewing Sep 22 2012, 06:09 PM

Can you give some info on your sway bar set up? I have a similar bar, but I am having trouble with finding the arms and links...

Thanks!

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Can you give some info on your sway bar set up? I have a similar bar, but I am having trouble with finding the arms and links...

Thanks!

Tangerine racing.Racer Chris's bar. beerchug.gif

Posted by: zonedoubt Sep 23 2012, 09:39 AM

Nicely done! aktion035.gif

Posted by: polo classic Sep 24 2012, 02:59 PM

Nice exhaust!

Why carb, and why not keep the EFI?

Posted by: NORD Sep 24 2012, 06:36 PM



Seen this car Sunday while up in Canada for races at Mission.


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It is a very nice car and has a nice exhaust tone. Really is a nice car

Speed metal army can now come down and play with us PNW people.

Posted by: speed metal army Sep 24 2012, 08:09 PM

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Seen this car Sunday while up in Canada for races at Mission.


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It is a very nice car and has a nice exhaust tone. Really is a nice car

Speed metal army can now come down and play with us PNW people.

Yep! I got to meet Nord! smile.gif now that im back up and running im in for some PNW stuff for sure!

Posted by: speed metal army Sep 21 2013, 11:28 PM

bye1.gif Hey!
I haven't updated this for ages, but I thought I would for the sake of having all my build documented for myself through changes/upgrades etc. smile.gif I am planning further mods so I should do this before I get ahead of myself and forget things.
Its also a chance for some gratuitious photos of my car. first.gif
So, update on the swap after a year:
We have had the best summer in years and I drove the heck out of my car. No issues!
(Oh wait, late last summer I roasted a CV, and went with Renegades cv/shaft setup, no issues since laugh.gif )
I dig the power. shades.gif The 5.3 accelerates fast enough to scare the crap out of me, yet produce a huge grin at the same time. Light switch oversteer for fun in the form of black marks/smoke, also fun as hell. Especially in a 914 aktion035.gif !
Since I updated this I have:
-Installed a new Hella H4 kit. Now I have 2 lights that are the same! Yay! Plus they work nice. Much better than OG
-Had an odd electrical gremlin fixed that was worth every cent. Car would blow a fuse when I signaled left 20% of the time.. Turned out to be a short behind the guage cluster. Yeah. I never would have found that.
-Found a super low profile air cleaner that fits underneath my stock lid. w00t.gif It doesn't seem like much,but the LS style stuff is a shade taller than the SBC.
-I rebuilt my shift linkage, nothing fancy or picture worthy, but it works sooo much better than the crappy rushed version I slapped together when I was finishing my car. confused24.gif What?I was stoked to drive at the time. The new linkage uses stock parts,and is just a slightly longer creatively cut and mitred version of a stock linkage.If anyone has grief with the LS motor(corvette pan) linkage,LMK. Shifts nice now. smile.gif
How about stuff I have pics of?
Quickfuel Q series annular 750 mech secondary! smilie_pokal.gif Good stuff! Annular boosters are FI like! Weighs a 1/4 what my holley weighs too. Plus it looks cool. evilgrin.gif
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I also put a real regulator in there. sunglasses.gif
I also built a GT lid from Shea's tutorial. It looks cool, but I just dig the stocker.
Photos in next post..

Posted by: speed metal army Sep 21 2013, 11:49 PM

The GT lid is cool! I built it using Erics tutorial, and it came out pretty nice, but I built it for looks, not cooling, and my green lid wins.
What say you??
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I have never had any cooling issues, so fashion outweighs function this time.

Posted by: speed metal army Sep 22 2013, 12:06 AM

My old fuel setup needed a revamp! I installed a new filter,some SS valves and a Holley Billet gerotor pump. I had to fab up a new mount , as the new pump was bigger than the Holley "red" it replaced. The "red" was so loud it was crazy! blink.gif The new pump is the ticket so far. Quiet, and consistent. smile.gif
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Posted by: speed metal army Sep 22 2013, 12:23 AM

There has been other stuff, but I cant think of it at the moment... Here are some pics of the car in its current state. I am currently torn about flaring this car. I don't know exactly why. confused24.gif I like the sleeper aspect, but cant leave well enough alone. biggrin.gif Big bumpers and flares?!?!! That's crazy talk..
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Waiting for the next sunny day... smile.gif

Posted by: Rand Sep 22 2013, 12:43 AM

Very nice and clean build. I love it. Heavy in the mouth though. (being brutally honest)

If you want a $.02 from nobody, the BUBS have to go first. They make me barf a little in my mouth.

Before going full flare (which is the ultimate end where we all eventually end up......) That weasel on my other shoulder says, stretch those a little and fill them out like pumped biceps in a too-tight t-shirt.

Point being, work up. Fill your sleeves before you buy bigger clothes.

Posted by: porbmw Sep 22 2013, 11:55 AM

Absolutely beautiful!
Jealous...in a good way....need to see it in person!
Paul
BTW
Stock lid looks best, if no cooling issues. I think the GT lids really only suit the GT type cars...the stock lid helps the lines flow better.

Posted by: Sleepin Sep 22 2013, 12:27 PM

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Awesome to hear that you are still digging it a year later!

Posted by: balljoint Sep 22 2013, 01:12 PM

It's beautiful. Bumpers and all. You don't need to worry about what is in Rand's mouth, he'll put anything in there.

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Posted by: dakotaewing Sep 22 2013, 03:29 PM

Can you give us an idea on average MPG with your carb setup?

Thanks!

Posted by: speed metal army Sep 22 2013, 05:56 PM

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It's beautiful. Bumpers and all. You don't need to worry about what is in Rand's mouth, he'll put anything in there.

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Haha!

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Can you give us an idea on average MPG with your carb setup?

Thanks!

I really cant... I put my foot in it a lot! Any kind of mileage reading I give would be unfair to the car. It does burn some fuel when you open up 4bbls for sure. driving.gif

Posted by: flippa Sep 22 2013, 06:46 PM

Beautiful car!!! I love that it is such a sleeper. I would not change a thing.

Posted by: Chris H. Sep 22 2013, 07:29 PM

Looks awesome as is...but I wouldn't yell at you if you backdated... chrome bumpers would SET THAT PAINT OFF and work really well with your wheels... It looks so nice as a narrow bodied car. Avoid the flares unless you have to have wider wheels for traction.

Posted by: JRust Sep 22 2013, 08:04 PM

I've got a nice IMSA front bumper. Great for a car with a radiator. Was going to use it on my LS1 conversion. Plans have changed & while I do like it. I would do it over the BUBS bumper for sure. I hate those dang things. I've always kinda liked the IMSA. So if you decide to change out the bumpers confused24.gif

Even though I'm not a fan of the BUBS your car does look great as it sits biggrin.gif

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I've got a nice IMSA front bumper. Great for a car with a radiator. Was going to use it on my LS1 conversion. Plans have changed & while I do like it. I would do it over the BUBS bumper for sure. I hate those dang things. I've always kinda liked the IMSA. So if you decide to change out the bumpers confused24.gif

Even though I'm not a fan of the BUBS your car does look great as it sits biggrin.gif

Thanks Mr Rust! I have a whack of chromies here in case I backdate. I dig that IMSA bumper tho. smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: speed metal army Mar 14 2014, 10:23 PM

Car went under the knife today. Steel flares, new fuchs, bumper backdate (bumpers painted black) and new paint on the way. Progress pics to follow. beerchug.gif
I pulled the late bumpers myself. Holy crap, I lost a TON of weight! biggrin.gif And the car is a good 24" shorter. Im stoked! w00t.gif

Posted by: NORD Mar 14 2014, 11:15 PM


For the bumpers, think fiberglass!!! Very lite and they can look good driving.gif

Posted by: speed metal army Mar 14 2014, 11:34 PM

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For the bumpers, think fiberglass!!! Very lite and they can look good driving.gif

I hear ya Nord, but I have tons o early steel ones in OK condition. Perfect canidates for paint! I figure if I go black, it will kind of retain some of the overall look of the car as it was.

Posted by: messix Mar 15 2014, 12:21 AM

is the 5.3 all stock except the intake and carb?

no cam or head work?

Posted by: balljoint Mar 16 2014, 12:40 PM

Too bad. I like the BUBs. Other than the weight issue. They are a visible evolution of the 914. smile.gif

Says the guy who back dated his '74 bumpers... rolleyes.gif


Posted by: balljoint Mar 16 2014, 12:40 PM

Lots of pics please.

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Lots of pics please.




Had been thinking about you and that beautiful car...now I'm not sure I'll recognize it....So...
As stated...

Pics, please...!

Posted by: Andyrew Mar 16 2014, 06:28 PM

Looking forward to the pics progress!

Posted by: JRust Mar 17 2014, 10:55 AM

I've got to admit. The only time I have liked the look of the bubs was on a flared car. They really set it off nice

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Mar 17 2014, 12:02 PM

Nice v8 conversion !
I'm doing my first one right now, some questions:
I noticed that the drain for the radiator is up at the top, is the radiator mounted upside down?
Did you source the radiator, and fab the shrouding, or are these Renegade items?
It appears as 2 coolant fill tanks are mounted in the engine bay. Or is 1 just a fill point, and the other just the osmosis overflow tank?
Enjoy that Bowtie power smile.gif
Marty

Posted by: mittelmotor Mar 17 2014, 10:37 PM

Not to hijack here, but I've got some pics of the Renegade system in my car. Pretty nice from a plug-n-play standpoint, as it comes with pre-bent shrouding, pre-wired fans and relays, thermostatic fan switch and a single fill point (driver's-side engine bay). Does take a lot of bending/finessing the aluminum, but in the end it's a pretty sanitary install.

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Posted by: speed metal army Mar 17 2014, 11:10 PM

QUOTE(balljoint @ Mar 16 2014, 11:40 AM) *

Lots of pics please.



QUOTE(Andyrew @ Mar 16 2014, 05:28 PM) *

Looking forward to the pics progress!

Im going to take tons of pics of the process.. The slicing, the dicing, the TIGing..(The only part I am doing BTW, the rest will be left to Metalcraft Adam, I am no bodyman)

QUOTE(JRust @ Mar 17 2014, 09:55 AM) *

I've got to admit. The only time I have liked the look of the bubs was on a flared car. They really set it off nice

I've never seen one with the late bumps !I actually really did like my car with the late bumpers. Now that I am flaring the car, its kind of a cool change to back date at the same time. I still cant get over how short the car seems now. biggrin.gif Plus, the weight savings are HUGE! Im still in disbelief the car moved like that with all that xtra weight! first.gif Wait till I get some real rubber under it! Yeehaw! beerchug.gif

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Mar 17 2014, 11:02 AM) *

Nice v8 conversion !
I'm doing my first one right now, some questions:
I noticed that the drain for the radiator is up at the top, is the radiator mounted upside down?
Did you source the radiator, and fab the shrouding, or are these Renegade items?
It appears as 2 coolant fill tanks are mounted in the engine bay. Or is 1 just a fill point, and the other just the osmosis overflow tank?
Enjoy that Bowtie power smile.gif
Marty

Its a Renegade setup. Pretty foolproof, as Mittle shows. The one tank is a Fill tank, the other a " puke" can.(osmosis overflow sounds much better) Good setup! Recommended.
Enjoy the Bowtie power? You have no idea!!I have been! Its pretty damn fun.
Thanks for the positive comments fellas! I haven't really done much to the car since last summer and I have wanted to flare this car after seeing a GT clone or two. I'm pretty excited!
Now I need to find tires for 4 15X8's... idea.gif

Posted by: speed metal army Mar 18 2014, 09:36 PM

Some crummy first photos! Progress!
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Some super awesome rocker dirt. Id say a pound and a half or so. Good news is , the longs are still nice. smile.gif
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Rear bumper back dated! Looks odd to me.. Needs the valence. Also not used to the bumper itself. They will be painted black, all dings, holes etc eliminated of course. The bumper tops will be FG ala Mark/Mikey 914. The rubber ones aren't great on these particular bumpers.

Posted by: speed metal army Mar 18 2014, 09:44 PM

And one more.
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Top view. Fits good!
All those holes you see there? No more rear reflector for me. I liked it, but it was slightly crooked, and now is the time to say goodbye.
Yes, that's a broom handle holding up my trunk. rolleyes.gif I need to get that cool trunk shox kit from Craig. The T bars wouldn't fit with the conversion.
And of course one of my new friends in the trunk. beerchug.gif

Posted by: Festive_Zombie Mar 18 2014, 10:03 PM

Wow, that looks amazing, would love to see it in person!

Posted by: bulitt Mar 19 2014, 07:45 AM

QUOTE(speed metal army @ Mar 15 2014, 12:23 AM) *

Car went under the knife today. Steel flares, new fuchs, bumper backdate (bumpers painted black) and new paint on the way. Progress pics to follow. beerchug.gif
I pulled the late bumpers myself. Holy crap, I lost a TON of weight! biggrin.gif And the car is a good 24" shorter. Im stoked! w00t.gif


What color?

Posted by: speed metal army Mar 19 2014, 08:31 AM

QUOTE(bulitt @ Mar 19 2014, 06:45 AM) *

QUOTE(speed metal army @ Mar 15 2014, 12:23 AM) *

Car went under the knife today. Steel flares, new fuchs, bumper backdate (bumpers painted black) and new paint on the way. Progress pics to follow. beerchug.gif
I pulled the late bumpers myself. Holy crap, I lost a TON of weight! biggrin.gif And the car is a good 24" shorter. Im stoked! w00t.gif


What color?

L98b of course! Lime green metallic.

Posted by: pete-stevers Mar 19 2014, 09:27 AM

A V8 in a 914?? stirthepot.gif

Posted by: pete-stevers Mar 19 2014, 09:33 AM

Hey Tom ...need some 16x8s


Posted by: mittelmotor Mar 19 2014, 10:20 AM

QUOTE(speed metal army @ Mar 18 2014, 08:44 PM) *

And one more.
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Top view. Fits good!
All those holes you see there? No more rear reflector for me. I liked it, but it was slightly crooked, and now is the time to say goodbye.
Yes, that's a broom handle holding up my trunk. rolleyes.gif I need to get that cool trunk shox kit from Craig. The T bars wouldn't fit with the conversion.
And of course one of my new friends in the trunk. beerchug.gif

Broom handle FTW! I use only the finest carbon-fiber prop rod for mine…a golf club. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif It's a 3 metal wood, and I use a head sock so it doesn't rattle around. The rubber grip is nice and tacky, prevents skidding/slipping when trunk is propped up.

Nice progress. I agree about the rear valance….looks a little naked without it.

Posted by: speed metal army Mar 19 2014, 12:41 PM

QUOTE(pete-stevers @ Mar 19 2014, 08:33 AM) *

Hey Tom ...need some 16x8s

I have some 15's...

Posted by: speed metal army Mar 19 2014, 10:40 PM

Some more pics of todays progress. Flares screwed on before slicing through and tacking/welding. Both bumpers on.My poor little 6"'s look a bit overwhelmed!
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Posted by: speed metal army Mar 19 2014, 10:45 PM

Slightly fatter butt. smile.gif Its hilarious to me how after I have built this look on the 914 visualizer so many times, it looks just like the renderings.
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Im currently searching for tires.. Any advice on some 15" rubber would be great!Its pretty slim pickins for fat 15" stuff that's not a 6" side wall. dry.gif

Posted by: Travis Neff Mar 19 2014, 10:52 PM

Its confusing to me how you can keep straight of left and right flares..

Posted by: sic6 Mar 20 2014, 12:09 AM

QUOTE(speed metal army @ Mar 19 2014, 09:45 PM) *

Slightly fatter butt. smile.gif Its hilarious to me how after I have built this look on the 914 visualizer so many times, it looks just like the renderings.
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Im currently searching for tires.. Any advice on some 15" rubber would be great!Its pretty slim pickins for fat 15" stuff that's not a 6" side wall. dry.gif


Car looks great!
How were the flares...did they fit alright?
Will look forward to seeing it in person...you'll AGAIN be done with your project, before I get finished the first go-round.
Good on you!

Paul

Posted by: bulitt Mar 20 2014, 12:39 AM

QUOTE(Travis Neff @ Mar 20 2014, 12:52 AM) *

Its confusing to me how you can keep straight of left and right flares..


That would suck welding them on the wrong location?

Posted by: speed metal army Mar 20 2014, 12:03 PM

QUOTE(bulitt @ Mar 19 2014, 11:39 PM) *

QUOTE(Travis Neff @ Mar 20 2014, 12:52 AM) *

Its confusing to me how you can keep straight of left and right flares..


That would suck welding them on the wrong location?

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Now your making me nervous! Is something haywire?

Posted by: Chris H. Mar 20 2014, 12:21 PM

They look normal to me.

Hey did you get a chance to do a quick lap with the new bumpers? Mine felt so much lighter and more nimble. Probably mental but it sure felt good!

Posted by: speed metal army Mar 20 2014, 12:27 PM

QUOTE(Chris H. @ Mar 20 2014, 11:21 AM) *

They look normal to me.

Hey did you get a chance to do a quick lap with the new bumpers? Mine felt so much lighter and more nimble. Probably mental but it sure felt good!

Not yet! I should tho...

Posted by: speed metal army Mar 20 2014, 05:07 PM

QUOTE(sic6 @ Mar 19 2014, 11:09 PM) *

QUOTE(speed metal army @ Mar 19 2014, 09:45 PM) *

Slightly fatter butt. smile.gif Its hilarious to me how after I have built this look on the 914 visualizer so many times, it looks just like the renderings.
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Im currently searching for tires.. Any advice on some 15" rubber would be great!Its pretty slim pickins for fat 15" stuff that's not a 6" side wall. dry.gif


Car looks great!
How were the flares...did they fit alright?
Will look forward to seeing it in person...you'll AGAIN be done with your project, before I get finished the first go-round.
Good on you!

Paul

Oh hey its you! PORBMW. My BC flare source!
They seem to be pretty good so far. Finish your car!

Posted by: balljoint Mar 22 2014, 08:53 AM

QUOTE(bulitt @ Mar 20 2014, 02:39 AM) *

QUOTE(Travis Neff @ Mar 20 2014, 12:52 AM) *

Its confusing to me how you can keep straight of left and right flares..


That would suck welding them on the wrong location?


Rich Towle got the fronts and the backs mixed up! wink.gif laugh.gif

Of course the car will never get on the road again so no one will ever know. It won him a SCROT.

Posted by: Travis Neff Mar 22 2014, 11:18 AM

I didn't mean your flares looked like they are on wrong, sorry about that! I know that there are differences with the flares from the right side and left, from looking at various pictures and it is hard for me to see the differences.

Posted by: porbmw Mar 24 2014, 06:11 PM

QUOTE(speed metal army @ Mar 20 2014, 04:07 PM) *

QUOTE(sic6 @ Mar 19 2014, 11:09 PM) *

QUOTE(speed metal army @ Mar 19 2014, 09:45 PM) *

Slightly fatter butt. smile.gif Its hilarious to me how after I have built this look on the 914 visualizer so many times, it looks just like the renderings.
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Im currently searching for tires.. Any advice on some 15" rubber would be great!Its pretty slim pickins for fat 15" stuff that's not a 6" side wall. dry.gif


Car looks great!
How were the flares...did they fit alright?
Will look forward to seeing it in person...you'll AGAIN be done with your project, before I get finished the first go-round.
Good on you!

Paul

Oh hey its you! PORBMW. My BC flare source!

Yup
My PORBMW seemed to stop working a few months ago...had to pick up/register a new nom de plum (SIC6) to keep me alive. Today, for some reason, PORBMW worked, so will see who I am from time to time.

Just got my bumpers back from the chrome shop....so some progress.

BUT

Am going to be sidetracked with a project (kinda Porsche related) for a while, hope to have it on the road by summer, then back at the 6. If it is done in summer, will take a drive out your way to inspect your (then finished) teener.

Glad to hear you are keeping with the existing colour....love it...perfect for the car.

Have fun, spring is coming, I'm sure you'll be done/driving in no time. Am jealous, but still in a good way

Paul
They seem to be pretty good so far. Finish your car!


Posted by: speed metal army Apr 1 2014, 09:26 PM

Some more progress. They are TIG all welded on and the finishing begins! I will take some decent pictures on a real camera when I get the chance. The 7" Cookies look tiny in there!
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Posted by: ruby914 Apr 1 2014, 10:08 PM

Wow, that looks great. Love the color too. smile.gif
Don't let the sparks hit the glass.

Posted by: Dasnowman Apr 2 2014, 02:48 AM

Looking good I`ll have to come check out the progress when I`m done trying to get me car a rolling chassis for the big move to Maple Ridge..lol a little closer to u now!

Posted by: messix Apr 2 2014, 06:42 PM

looks like you used the dan root method to cut and weld.

Posted by: speed metal army Jul 3 2014, 09:14 PM

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beerchug.gif Here she is!!! Man I am one happy camper!!
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Posted by: speed metal army Jul 3 2014, 09:15 PM

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Posted by: speed metal army Jul 3 2014, 09:17 PM

Look at that nice big ass!
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Bye bye 911 mirrors, bye bye rear relector! beerchug.gif
Fat RE-11's! drooley.gif
The flares were from Porbmw, the wheels from the mighty pete stevers.
Somehow its way more fun to drive now. smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: SirAndy Jul 3 2014, 09:41 PM

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Posted by: speed metal army Jul 3 2014, 09:45 PM

And one more..
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The ol' cell phone doesn't do it justice. Some small things to do still but that's the fun part. smile.gif I made a drawing of the bumper grille to match the fog grilles as close as I could.. The bumper has a slight curve to it. I altered the dwg to fit that. It worked pretty good.

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jul 3 2014, 10:21 PM

The air inlet in the bumper looks sweet !
Marty

Posted by: Dasnowman Jul 3 2014, 11:26 PM

QUOTE(speed metal army @ Jul 3 2014, 08:45 PM) *

And one more..
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The ol' cell phone doesn't do it justice. Some small things to do still but that's the fun part. smile.gif I made a drawing of the bumper grille to match the fog grilles as close as I could.. The bumper has a slight curve to it. I altered the dwg to fit that. It worked pretty good.



Looking sweet I'm a little closer now in Ridge! I would love to go for a rip! ya buddy lets go for a rip! Lol first.gif

Posted by: Chris Scott Jul 3 2014, 11:54 PM

Very nice looking car. I too like the color and happy to see the new bumpers
Good Job

Posted by: Mike Bellis Jul 3 2014, 11:56 PM

Looks awesome!

Posted by: porbmw Jul 4 2014, 12:52 AM

Damn! That looks good!

Double damn!! I am stalled!!

Was thinking about you last weekend, was going to email you to see how you were doing, was pretty confident you'd get your sorted out before I get my diversion done.

Looks great, love that fat ass!

Am going to be away for about 3 weeks, hope you are around in August, would love to see it in person.

Was jealous before, now even more so...in a good way, of course

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Posted by: ndfrigi Jul 4 2014, 05:38 AM

Hi sir, do you mind include the old picture as before and after which I believed you have on the same spot?


QUOTE(speed metal army @ Jul 3 2014, 08:45 PM) *

And one more..
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The ol' cell phone doesn't do it justice. Some small things to do still but that's the fun part. smile.gif I made a drawing of the bumper grille to match the fog grilles as close as I could.. The bumper has a slight curve to it. I altered the dwg to fit that. It worked pretty good.


Posted by: Cairo94507 Jul 4 2014, 07:41 AM

Very nice aktion035.gif
How about posting a front-on shot of that bumper? I know I am going to have a front cooler in my car and am still considering front bumper modification options. Thanks and Happy Fourth. jsharp.gif

Posted by: Chris H. Jul 4 2014, 08:38 AM

Wow! It looked great before and it looks even better now! Somehow you kept the "theme" of it exactly the same. Those wheels are flippin' sweet. How do you like the handling with the wider track and without those heavy bumpers at the ends of the car?

Posted by: JRust Jul 4 2014, 09:10 AM

Absolutely sweet man pray.gif . I love green 914's happy11.gif

Posted by: speed metal army Jul 4 2014, 10:14 AM

QUOTE(ndfrigi @ Jul 4 2014, 04:38 AM) *

Hi sir, do you mind include the old picture as before and after which I believed you have on the same spot?


QUOTE(speed metal army @ Jul 3 2014, 08:45 PM) *

And one more..
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The ol' cell phone doesn't do it justice. Some small things to do still but that's the fun part. smile.gif I made a drawing of the bumper grille to match the fog grilles as close as I could.. The bumper has a slight curve to it. I altered the dwg to fit that. It worked pretty good.


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Posted by: Socalandy Jul 4 2014, 10:19 AM

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Posted by: Andyrew Jul 4 2014, 11:39 AM

Looks fantastic! Congrats!

Posted by: andys Jul 4 2014, 11:51 AM

Your front spoiler is a favorite of mine. I have the same one on my LS1 car, but it's been repaired a time or two. Do you know if anyone makes this particular spoiler anymore?

Andys

Posted by: ndfrigi Jul 4 2014, 01:19 PM

Thanks for posting before and after picture!

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QUOTE(ndfrigi @ Jul 4 2014, 04:38 AM) *

Hi sir, do you mind include the old picture as before and after which I believed you have on the same spot?


QUOTE(speed metal army @ Jul 3 2014, 08:45 PM) *

And one more..
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The ol' cell phone doesn't do it justice. Some small things to do still but that's the fun part. smile.gif I made a drawing of the bumper grille to match the fog grilles as close as I could.. The bumper has a slight curve to it. I altered the dwg to fit that. It worked pretty good.


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Posted by: 3d914 Jul 4 2014, 03:46 PM

Awesome car, gotta love the green too! What size wheels did you end up with?

Posted by: speed metal army Jul 4 2014, 03:50 PM

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Awesome car, gotta love the green too! What size wheels did you end up with?

16x8's and 7's beerchug.gif

Posted by: 3d914 Jul 4 2014, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(3d914 @ Jul 4 2014, 02:46 PM) *

Awesome car, gotta love the green too! What size wheels did you end up with?

16x8's and 7's beerchug.gif


Thanks army. That's the size I was thinking for my flared project. They look good.

Posted by: speed metal army Jul 4 2014, 09:44 PM

QUOTE(andys @ Jul 4 2014, 10:51 AM) *

Your front spoiler is a favorite of mine. I have the same one on my LS1 car, but it's been repaired a time or two. Do you know if anyone makes this particular spoiler anymore?

Andys

I actually got this front spoiler in a bunch of parts that came with a car. No idea what brand. I actually tried it on my car with late bumpers and it looked weird so I stashed it. After converting the lates to earlies, the flexdam wasn't doing it for me! The one in the pics fit the bill. Im glad I saved it! smoke.gif

Posted by: speed metal army Sep 15 2014, 09:16 PM

914 day came around again with awesome weather! Oil change!
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Went for a nice rip into town for a coffee, driving.gif hit up the local track. The vintage racing crowd was there! smile.gif Thinking about it now, this is the event that I had met NORD a couple years ago. Drove home and noticed my fans seemed to be sluggish firing up. Weird..
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Scary! The hot lead that supplies the fans had rubbed through the insulation on a ground that was way to close to the rest of the relay/wiring etc. mad.gif Not going to point any fingers, it did take 3 years of driving but a revision of that particular wiring setup is needed....
Fixed! And went for another drive. All better! smile.gif All told I got about 4 hrs of driving on "914 day"! first.gif

Posted by: speed metal army Sep 15 2014, 09:21 PM

And a pic of the LGD after an eventful 914 day.. beer.gif
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Posted by: partwerks Sep 15 2014, 09:30 PM

Along those lines, I'm wondering if the torsion springs for the rear trunk lid, can stay or will they have to go, to accomodate room for an LS3?

Posted by: speed metal army Sep 15 2014, 09:36 PM

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Along those lines, I'm wondering if the torsion springs for the rear trunk lid, can stay or will they have to go, to accomodate room for an LS3?

Had to say good bye in my case. Craig at Camp 914 makes a cool gas charged strut kit that is really nice.

Posted by: partwerks Sep 15 2014, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(partwerks @ Sep 15 2014, 08:30 PM) *

Along those lines, I'm wondering if the torsion springs for the rear trunk lid, can stay or will they have to go, to accomodate room for an LS3?

Had to say good bye in my case. Craig at Camp 914 makes a cool gas charged strut kit that is really nice.

They were in the way, I take it? Looks like yours has carbs. Mine will probably be worse.

I don't know that there would be room under the grille for a blower.

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