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Posted by: mrholland2 Sep 23 2012, 06:40 PM
YAY: I can use headlights without blowing fuses. .. and the horn also now goes "Merrrrp merrrrp" (kind of like a European See-And-Say)
HOWEVER,
When the car is OFF the key is OFF and I (accidentally) engage the RIGHT turn signal, the RIGHT park and tail lights come on. . and (I think) the same with the LEFT.
Also, the headlights would not work with the wires hooked to the proper locations (according to a thread on here).
I'm wondering if my switch is "ker-flooey" and needs replacement?
Or do I have the only 914 that was worked over by Lucas Electrical?
Sean
Posted by: The Cabinetmaker Sep 23 2012, 06:46 PM
The turn signals are susposed to work like that with the key off
Posted by: Pat Garvey Sep 23 2012, 06:52 PM
This is one of the Euro things that carried over.
In Europe furing that period the streets were narrow (stilll are). By leaving the L or R signals on when you left the car it meant that you would return shortly, and marked the car from being hit.
Kust don't leave it on overnight.
Posted by: jim_hoyland Sep 24 2012, 09:13 AM
YAY: I can use headlights without blowing fuses. .. and the horn also now goes "Merrrrp merrrrp" (kind of like a European See-And-Say)
HOWEVER,
When the car is OFF the key is OFF and I (accidentally) engage the RIGHT turn signal, the RIGHT park and tail lights come on. . and (I think) the same with the LEFT.
Also, the headlights would not work with the wires hooked to the proper locations (according to a thread on here).
I'm wondering if my switch is "ker-flooey" and needs replacement?
Or do I have the only 914 that was worked over by Lucas Electrical?
Sean
I'm not sure which thread you are refering to, but I found the wiring diagram was in error on two spades.
I made up a revised wiring diagram for the late switch
Posted by: jim_hoyland Sep 24 2012, 09:21 AM
Try this for 11 pin:
30
Smaller Red From fuse #10 which is linked to #11 and #12
green w/blk trace 30B Headlight Motors Retract
grey w/blk trace 58L Left Parking lights
grey w/red trace 56R Rt Parking Lights
grey w/yellow trace K License / Luggage lights
white w/green trace 57 Park light indicator light
15
Thicker Red From "X" terminal on Ignition switch
grey 56K Headlight Motor Switch Extend
red w/white trace 56 Headlight motors
black w/blue trace 56 To Fog light switch
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Posted by: mrholland2 Sep 24 2012, 10:47 AM
I have the 11 pin switch, but my car is a '73. . will things be different?
Thanks for your help!
Sean
Try this for 11 pin:
30
Smaller Red From fuse #10 which is linked to #11 and #12
green w/blk trace 30B Headlight Motors Retract
grey w/blk trace 58L Left Parking lights
grey w/red trace 56R Rt Parking Lights
grey w/yellow trace K License / Luggage lights
white w/green trace 57 Park light indicator light
15
Thicker Red From "X" terminal on Ignition switch
grey 56K Headlight Motor Switch Extend
red w/white trace 56 Headlight motors
black w/blue trace 56 To Fog light switch
Posted by: jim_hoyland Sep 24 2012, 12:20 PM
I believe all 11 pins are wired the same.
Posted by: mrholland2 Sep 24 2012, 02:09 PM
I believe all 11 pins are wired the same.
The photo vanished from your post!!!!
Posted by: bandjoey Sep 24 2012, 03:22 PM
The Bird has a tech article on repairing HL switches with pics of the different switches.
Posted by: jim_hoyland Sep 24 2012, 04:15 PM
I believe all 11 pins are wired the same.
The photo vanished from your post!!!!
Reposted.....
I had a switch with all the wires still attached and went through all the circuits with a continuity tester.
Posted by: mrholland2 Sep 24 2012, 06:37 PM
Does that wiring work on a 1973 car? I'm a bit confused about the "early" and "Late" thing
I believe all 11 pins are wired the same.
The photo vanished from your post!!!!
Reposted.....
I had a switch with all the wires still attached and went through all the circuits with a continuity tester.Posted by: SirAndy Sep 24 2012, 06:41 PM
The turn signals are susposed to work like that with the key off
It's a parking light option. All European cars have it. Or at least used to, not sure about brand new cars, might have changed by now.
It's a handy feature, why would you want to remove it?
Posted by: 76-914 Sep 24 2012, 06:51 PM
Hah, I remember posting the same concern about the turn signal. Then I went on to embarrass myself further by posting concerns over the locking differences between the R & L doors. 
Posted by: jim_hoyland Sep 24 2012, 07:57 PM
Count the connectors, if it's 11, yes; if 10, no. They are pretty similar IIRC
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