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Posted by: kbrunk1 Oct 30 2012, 09:15 PM

OK got the Pelican Valve Adj Made Easy
Got in 5th - driver side wheel in the air -- have rotor at notch. Found Paint on flywheel and notch in housing so I am close to TDC of cyl 1.
I can not bend enough to see anything on the flywheel standing from the wheel behind the drivers wheel looking in the hole.
Now Pelican says in Figure 11 there is a small opening you can see from under the car near the top of the transmission (? front of the engine bar I assume - found all the tin but no opening. -- you can feel it with your finger ???? (not)

Now I assume you pull the covers off with both wheels on? and Pelican says you need to mark the bottom of the flywheel in the gap I can not find.

Is this hole on the Oil filer side?



Stuck!















Posted by: 914_teener Oct 30 2012, 09:57 PM

QUOTE(kbrunk1 @ Oct 30 2012, 08:15 PM) *

OK got the Pelican Valve Adj Made Easy
Got in 5th - driver side wheel in the air -- have rotor at notch. Found Paint on flywheel and notch in housing so I am close to TDC of cyl 1.
I can not bend enough to see anything on the flywheel standing from the wheel behind the drivers wheel looking in the hole.
Now Pelican says in Figure 11 there is a small opening you can see from under the car near the top of the transmission (? front of the engine bar I assume - found all the tin but no opening. -- you can feel it with your finger ???? (not)

Now I assume you pull the covers off with both wheels on? and Pelican says you need to mark the bottom of the flywheel in the gap I can not find.

Is this hole on the Oil filer side?



Stuck!



Use Capn' Krusty method.

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Posted by: Krieger Oct 30 2012, 10:02 PM

The cooling fan is on the front of the motor just behind your right shoulder. There is a black plastic cap on the shroud around it that unscrews so you can look inside at the markings. The flywheel does not have any factory marking, but you could add some. Remove one wheel at a time. I think the pelican proceedure has you using the rear wheel to turn the motor.

Posted by: Dave_Darling Oct 30 2012, 10:17 PM

If you're looking at the flywheel, remember that the transmission is at the back of the car. The flywheel is in between the engine and transmission. There is a notch at the bottom of the transmission right where it bolts up to the engine, and another one at the top.

--DD

Posted by: The Cabinetmaker Oct 31 2012, 04:42 AM

Sounds like you have found the notch and paint mark on the fan, not the flywheel. You need the car on jackstands. From under the car, there is a hole in the trans case where it bolts to the engine. You can see the flywheel there. There was a notch on the factory flywheel. There is another hole on the top of the trans case. You can stick your finger in the top hole and feel the notch as you turn the flywheel. When you feel it on the top and the rotor is pointing at the notch in the diz, you are at top dead center of#1. At this point, paint a line on the bottom of the flywheel. Rotate the engine till you see the notch thru the bottom hole and you will be at TDC for the next cylinder . Repeat process till you have done all four .

Posted by: balljoint Oct 31 2012, 05:03 AM

Take a couple of big steps back and check to see if your car says FIAT on it anywhere.

Posted by: SLITS Oct 31 2012, 09:46 AM

Use Cap'n Krusty's opposite valve method and you won't worry about firing order or notches.

Posted by: SLKWrx Oct 31 2012, 10:30 AM

QUOTE(SLITS @ Oct 31 2012, 07:46 AM) *

Use Cap'n Krusty's opposite valve method and you won't worry about firing order or notches.

agree.gif I just went through my first adjustment at all and the Pelican method had me scratching my head. Krusty's method was cake, worked like a charm once I got the bailing clamps off mad.gif

Posted by: Spoke Oct 31 2012, 10:35 AM

QUOTE(balljoint @ Oct 31 2012, 07:03 AM) *

Take a couple of big steps back and check to see if your car says FIAT on it anywhere.


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Posted by: The Cabinetmaker Oct 31 2012, 02:40 PM

QUOTE(SLKWrx @ Oct 31 2012, 11:30 AM) *

QUOTE(SLITS @ Oct 31 2012, 07:46 AM) *

Use Cap'n Krusty's opposite valve method and you won't worry about firing order or notches.

agree.gif I just went through my first adjustment at all and the Pelican method had me scratching my head. Krusty's method was cake, worked like a charm once I got the bailing clamps off mad.gif


I must agree its a better method. I learned it years ago from a local Porsche wrench, and use it myself. However, it might be easier for a first timer, and help him in knowing where these parts of the car are. Never hurts to know how to find tdc, right?

Posted by: tdgray Oct 31 2012, 06:25 PM

Better yet....look up a word in the dictionary ....mechanic....find one


Posted by: MDG Oct 31 2012, 06:30 PM

QUOTE(tdgray @ Oct 31 2012, 08:25 PM) *

Better yet....look up a word in the dictionary ....mechanic....find one


well yes . . . there's always that. biggrin.gif

Posted by: scotty b Oct 31 2012, 06:32 PM

QUOTE(tdgray @ Oct 31 2012, 04:25 PM) *

Better yet....look up a word in the dictionary ....mechanic....find one


How aboot a little compassion here Todduh dry.gif No need to be a dick yourself

Posted by: Woody Oct 31 2012, 06:45 PM

Hi guys. bye1.gif

Posted by: timothy_nd28 Oct 31 2012, 06:52 PM

The Cap'n has the superior method. It's actually not that bad, start with the easier set of valves (the most accessible). Make sure you have a stubby spade style screw driver, with a box end wrench (13mm I think). Be sure that your jack stand locks, and you keep your hydraulic jack positioned underneath as a back up. There has been a wrath of jack stand failures recently. It's just peace of mind having a back up, just in case. Best of luck! drunk.gif

Posted by: tdgray Oct 31 2012, 06:54 PM

QUOTE(scotty b @ Oct 31 2012, 08:32 PM) *

QUOTE(tdgray @ Oct 31 2012, 04:25 PM) *

Better yet....look up a word in the dictionary ....mechanic....find one


How aboot a little compassion here Todduh dry.gif No need to be a dick yourself



My bad....twas a bit dickish




Posted by: Woody Oct 31 2012, 06:55 PM

QUOTE(tdgray @ Oct 31 2012, 07:54 PM) *

QUOTE(scotty b @ Oct 31 2012, 08:32 PM) *

QUOTE(tdgray @ Oct 31 2012, 04:25 PM) *

Better yet....look up a word in the dictionary ....mechanic....find one


How aboot a little compassion here Todduh dry.gif No need to be a dick yourself



My bad....twas a bit dickish



It twer. huh.gif

Posted by: Rand Oct 31 2012, 06:59 PM

QUOTE(SLKWrx @ Oct 31 2012, 09:30 AM) *

QUOTE(SLITS @ Oct 31 2012, 07:46 AM) *

Use Cap'n Krusty's opposite valve method and you won't worry about firing order or notches.

agree.gif I just went through my first adjustment at all and the Pelican method had me scratching my head. Krusty's method was cake, worked like a charm once I got the bailing clamps off mad.gif

I use the new disney star wars method. It's just like krusty's except you leave the valve covers on. No more messing with those evil bailing clamps... or at least it takes less force.

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