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Posted by: Niklas Nov 5 2012, 04:12 AM

Hello!

Is this the right wheels to use on a 914/6 GT:

8 x 15 ET 10,6 mm

7 x 15 ET 23,3 mm

Nr. 911.361.020.41 7x15

Nr. 911.361.020.42 8x15.


Tire sizes ??

Should they be 8x15 and 9x15 ?

Show me yours.


Niklas


Posted by: bulitt Nov 5 2012, 05:57 AM

Here is a thread including the offset chart. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=149431&hl=oversize

Posted by: ConeDodger Nov 5 2012, 09:51 AM

Here is a picture of mine. I used the more commonly available 16X wheels. I am concerned about future tire availability...

My rears are 8.5X16 made by Weidman Wheels in Oroville CA. Both Harvey Weidman and his brother Al Weidman are long - long time 914 guys and members here. I would describe their work as just a bit beyond perfection... biggrin.gif


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Posted by: gothspeed Nov 5 2012, 10:07 AM

This is a great idea, there can NEVER be enough pictures or threads of 'fuchs and flares' .......... biggrin.gif

These are not mine but ....... popcorn[1].gif .............. the first pic is what my replica will look like when completed ........ sunglasses.gif

BTW I really like that 8.5" Weidman Wheels mod (above rears ^^) ........ If they are still doing that, I may have to buy another set of 7x16s ..... smile.gif


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Posted by: carr914 Nov 5 2012, 10:14 AM

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BTW I really like that 8.5" Weidman Wheels mod (above rears ^^) ........ If they are still doing that, I may have to buy another set of 7x16s ..... smile.gif


I believe they start with 16x6s

Posted by: ConeDodger Nov 5 2012, 10:18 AM

QUOTE(carr914 @ Nov 5 2012, 08:14 AM) *

QUOTE(gothspeed @ Nov 5 2012, 11:07 AM) *


BTW I really like that 8.5" Weidman Wheels mod (above rears ^^) ........ If they are still doing that, I may have to buy another set of 7x16s ..... smile.gif


I believe they start with 16x6s


TC is right. In order to get a set of 16X8.5 Fuchs you start with 4 - 16X6 wheels.

Posted by: gothspeed Nov 5 2012, 11:46 AM

QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Nov 5 2012, 08:18 AM) *

QUOTE(carr914 @ Nov 5 2012, 08:14 AM) *

QUOTE(gothspeed @ Nov 5 2012, 11:07 AM) *


BTW I really like that 8.5" Weidman Wheels mod (above rears ^^) ........ If they are still doing that, I may have to buy another set of 7x16s ..... smile.gif


I believe they start with 16x6s


TC is right. In order to get a set of 16X8.5 Fuchs you start with 4 - 16X6 wheels.

So they need 4 wheels to get 2 8.5x16s blink.gif ? .......... I thought they used 7s because the angle portion on the rim looks to be the same as the 7s you have up front.

I wonder if they can do that using 951 7x16s ? I like the way the lugs are 'recessed' on the 951 16" fuchs smile.gif. Not to mention I already have an extra pair for rear mods ... popcorn[1].gif

Also as mentioned before ...... there can NEVER be too many 'fuchs and flares' pics ........... so lets get posting!! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Socalandy Nov 5 2012, 05:59 PM

here's my setup, 16x7 and 8's


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Posted by: ConeDodger Nov 5 2012, 07:13 PM

Here are some more thoughts on why Harvey uses 4 16X6 Fuchs to make 2 16X8.5. It takes a long time to get things done by Harvey so I had a good long time to think about it. I remember thinking, 'why doesn't he take 4 16X7 and make 16X10's.' When it came right down to putting the wheels on the car though, I discovered that Harvey has probably forgotten more about 914's then I know. (and yet, he doesn't call himself Dr. 914 smile.gif ) Mark called me to say there was a problem, but he handled it. The problem? The 16X8.5 wheels snuggle right up to the AA flares. Mark opined that this probably wasn't a problem originally since the original GT flares didn't have but half the flange around the wheels arch. Mark just happened to have a car with real factory flares to compare it to. Bottom line, Harvey's 16X8.5 combination couldn't fit any closer to perfect under a set of flares.

As you may be able to see, McMark clearanced the very top of the arch and since the wheels 'gain' camber as the suspension squats, the tire never contacts the wheel arch.


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Posted by: proto31 Nov 5 2012, 07:24 PM

I've got 15x8's on all 4, I liked the the look of the 15's, that's just me.
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Posted by: JRust Nov 5 2012, 07:53 PM

These are the Rota's 17x7.5 fronts & 17x9' Rears


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Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 5 2012, 08:06 PM

News Flash 16's are no better off than 15's....17's is the best bet. edit: tire wise, these days.
That said 15x8/9's


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Posted by: ConeDodger Nov 5 2012, 08:08 PM

QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Nov 5 2012, 06:06 PM) *

News Flash 16's are no netter off than !5's....17's is the best bet.
That said 15x8/9's


If you mean for tires? I knew that. But I will not compromise. I want real Fuchs. Even if they are modified. 15's were far too hard to find and I had a dozen 16X6 and 7 sitting around.

Posted by: Phoenix-MN Nov 5 2012, 08:16 PM

15" 7's and 8's with 205/50 and 225/50

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Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 5 2012, 08:18 PM

QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Nov 5 2012, 06:08 PM) *

QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Nov 5 2012, 06:06 PM) *

News Flash 16's are no netter off than !5's....17's is the best bet.
That said 15x8/9's


If you mean for tires? I knew that. But I will not compromise. I want real Fuchs. Even if they are modified. 15's were far too hard to find and I had a dozen 16X6 and 7 sitting around.

Its not about you poke.gif

Posted by: iamchappy Nov 5 2012, 08:24 PM

16x7 and 16 x 9 225/50/16-245/45/16 Toyo RA1


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Posted by: BKLA Nov 5 2012, 08:24 PM

15x8's all around....
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16x8 front 16x9 rear fuchs modulars (machined 16x6 with BBS hoops)
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Posted by: carr914 Nov 5 2012, 09:30 PM

A few of my Cars

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Posted by: Eric_Shea Nov 5 2012, 09:56 PM

Yes, 15x7 & 8 is correct.

Posted by: 914pwer Nov 6 2012, 02:52 PM

7x15 and 8x15 falken 205/55/15 front and 185/65/15 rear (soon to be225/50/15)




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Posted by: Madswede Nov 6 2012, 03:04 PM

I'll post some of mine after the Tropical Ramble. I'm running 16x7 front, 16x9 rear.

It took changing brands to get a set of four tires of comparable performance, but in the end I got 215/45R16 Kumho Ecsta XS's for the front and 245/45R16 Bridgestone Potenza RE-11's for the rear.

Posted by: VegasRacer Nov 6 2012, 05:36 PM

16 x 8's on all 4 corners. gunner.gif


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Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 6 2012, 05:56 PM

stirthepot.gif Go big or go home beer.gif lol-2.gif
10&12 x 17



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Posted by: jfort Nov 7 2012, 05:23 PM

Here's mine:

front wheels 7x16, tires Hankook 225/45
74mm studs with 21mm 944 spacer

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Posted by: kid914 Nov 8 2012, 05:45 PM

QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Nov 6 2012, 06:56 PM) *

stirthepot.gif Go big or go home beer.gif lol-2.gif
10&12 x 17



NICE RIDE!!!! first.gif
What are the fins on your roof?
And the rear spoiler looks niiice.. stock? beerchug.gif

Posted by: carr914 Nov 8 2012, 05:50 PM

QUOTE(kid914 @ Nov 8 2012, 06:45 PM) *

QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Nov 6 2012, 06:56 PM) *

stirthepot.gif Go big or go home beer.gif lol-2.gif
10&12 x 17



NICE RIDE!!!! first.gif
What are the fins on your roof?
And the rear spoiler looks niiice.. stock? beerchug.gif


The Fins are Air Diffusers, 1st made well known by the Mitsubishi EVO Rally Cars

The Spoiler looks Custom & Carbon Fibre

Posted by: ConeDodger Nov 8 2012, 06:00 PM

QUOTE(carr914 @ Nov 8 2012, 03:50 PM) *

QUOTE(kid914 @ Nov 8 2012, 06:45 PM) *

QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Nov 6 2012, 06:56 PM) *

stirthepot.gif Go big or go home beer.gif lol-2.gif
10&12 x 17



NICE RIDE!!!! first.gif
What are the fins on your roof?
And the rear spoiler looks niiice.. stock? beerchug.gif


The Fins are Air Diffusers, 1st made well know by the Mitsubishi EVO Rally Cars

The Spoiler looks Custom & Carbon Fibre


The car looks amazing!

Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 8 2012, 07:35 PM

vortex generator sheets, used way before the evo, rear spoiler was on my Dads 914-6 and I hade a mold made and a CF one.
Sir Andy has one like it and the only ones I have seen. SCCA rules back in the day was 2 inch above the highest point and straight plane.

8&9x15


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Posted by: pete-stevers Nov 8 2012, 07:39 PM

The trouble with 15s is very limited available for the street
If there where enuf demand for a run of 245, 225 205( in 15inch) in matching compounds and treads... would a tire company make a run for us vintage guys..if we compiled a big ass list of buyers?? idea.gif

Posted by: stuttgart46 Nov 9 2012, 07:48 AM

Nice looking car jfort.
That is exactly what I'm going for, only in blue.

Posted by: Speedster Mike Jan 26 2013, 11:48 PM

16x7s in front and 16x 9s in the rear


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Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 27 2013, 01:43 AM

beerchug.gif 15x 8 and 9...........225 and 245


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Posted by: Dasnowman Jan 27 2013, 01:56 AM

How about these, if I had a new porsche I would through a http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2011-PORSCHE-911-SPORT-CLASSIC-FUCHS-19-WHEEL-TIRE-997-CARRERCA-S-TURBO-/350496358823?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item519b3601a7&vxp=mtr!








THANK YOU FOR VIEWING THIS SPECIAL " BUY NOW " OFFER !

You bidding on:

( 1 ) Set of original Porsche 911 Sport Classic 19" Wheel and Tire Set
Classic 911 Fuchs Wheel




( 2 ) Front 8,5 x19 with 235/35 x19 Tires


( 2 ) Rear 11.5 x19 with 305/30 x19 Tires






Posted by: gothspeed Jan 27 2013, 09:01 AM

ConeDodger do you have any side pics of your 914? I really like how your flares were done. smile.gif

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 27 2013, 04:35 PM

QUOTE(Niklas @ Nov 5 2012, 02:12 AM) *
Should they be 8x15 and 9x15 ?


Here is a list of the original GT options:

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Btw. The first column (Einpresstiefe) is the wheel offset.


The red arrow points to the 9"/11" option which according to the text above was to be used with extra wide (metal?) flares.
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Posted by: ConeDodger Jan 27 2013, 05:12 PM

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ConeDodger do you have any side pics of your 914? I really like how your flares were done. smile.gif




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Posted by: Madswede Jan 27 2013, 06:52 PM

I'd forgotten about this thread. Here's a pic of mine (16x7 front, 16x9 rear):

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Posted by: Nürburg Nomad Jan 28 2013, 02:35 PM

QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Nov 5 2012, 08:13 PM) *

Here are some more thoughts on why Harvey uses 4 16X6 Fuchs to make 2 16X8.5. It takes a long time to get things done by Harvey so I had a good long time to think about it. I remember thinking, 'why doesn't he take 4 16X7 and make 16X10's.' When it came right down to putting the wheels on the car though, I discovered that Harvey has probably forgotten more about 914's then I know. (and yet, he doesn't call himself Dr. 914 smile.gif ) Mark called me to say there was a problem, but he handled it. The problem? The 16X8.5 wheels snuggle right up to the AA flares. Mark opined that this probably wasn't a problem originally since the original GT flares didn't have but half the flange around the wheels arch. Mark just happened to have a car with real factory flares to compare it to. Bottom line, Harvey's 16X8.5 combination couldn't fit any closer to perfect under a set of flares.

As you may be able to see, McMark clearanced the very top of the arch and since the wheels 'gain' camber as the suspension squats, the tire never contacts the wheel arch.

Are any businesses/craftsman taking 16x6" Fuchs and widening them to 16x8" or 16x8.5" with only one pair of wheels to original specs/lightness, not 4 16x6"s? I have a set of 16x6" Fuchs and it seems widening them to 8" (or possibly 8.5") would be more cost effective than finding an increasingly expensive pair of original 16x8" wheels.

Posted by: SKL1 Jan 28 2013, 05:34 PM

These wheels were done by Weidman as well though no flares. Wanted to keep body original. They do great work! Also used 911 16X6 fronts because of the more available tire options.Attached Image

Posted by: Drums66 Jan 28 2013, 10:15 PM

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Posted by: CG-914 Jan 28 2013, 10:28 PM

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Posted by: jm993rs Jan 31 2013, 08:53 AM

I think the best way on a 914 6 GT is oem 8x15 fuchs in front and 9x15 miniltes rear !!!

But I don't know because I think !!!!! lol-2.gif lol-2.gif






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Posted by: JmuRiz Jan 31 2013, 08:56 AM

QUOTE(SKL1 @ Jan 28 2013, 03:34 PM) *

These wheels were done by Weidman as well though no flares. Wanted to keep body original. They do great work! Also used 911 16X6 fronts because of the more available tire options.Attached Image

What finish is that? I like it. Mine are currently black center 16x6 all around and was thinking of jazzing it up after repainting the car.

Posted by: carr914 Jan 31 2013, 11:53 AM

QUOTE(Dasnowman @ Jan 27 2013, 02:56 AM) *

How about these, if I had a new porsche I would through a http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2011-PORSCHE-911-SPORT-CLASSIC-FUCHS-19-WHEEL-TIRE-997-CARRERCA-S-TURBO-/350496358823?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item519b3601a7&vxp=mtr!

THANK YOU FOR VIEWING THIS SPECIAL " BUY NOW " OFFER !
You bidding on:

( 1 ) Set of original Porsche 911 Sport Classic 19" Wheel and Tire Set
Classic 911 Fuchs Wheel
( 2 ) Front 8,5 x19 with 235/35 x19 Tires

( 2 ) Rear 11.5 x19 with 305/30 x19 Tires


The Weird thing is if you buy Porsche Classics from a Dealership they are Cast. If you buy them from Fuchs (who make them all) they are Forged.

There are smaller Versions available now

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QUOTE(Nürburg Nomad @ Jan 28 2013, 03:35 PM) *

QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Nov 5 2012, 08:13 PM) *

Here are some more thoughts on why Harvey uses 4 16X6 Fuchs to make 2 16X8.5.

Are any businesses/craftsman taking 16x6" Fuchs and widening them to 16x8" or 16x8.5" with only one pair of wheels to original specs/lightness, not 4 16x6"s? I have a set of 16x6" Fuchs and it seems widening them to 8" (or possibly 8.5") would be more cost effective than finding an increasingly expensive pair of original 16x8" wheels.


Lindsey only uses 1 16x6 to make another wheel (Basically cuts out the middle & welds it to rim halves), but I they step up the Diameter by doing this - a 16" becomes a 17"

Posted by: Eric_Shea Jan 31 2013, 12:47 PM

Seeing as how it's now just a thread to show off our wheels... biggrin.gif

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7 & 8x15

Posted by: gothspeed Jan 31 2013, 01:23 PM

I really like the wheels on ConeDodger's car, the rears are modded and have the stepped 'look' of 8x15s but with the 16" diameter. Very cool.

In my opinion the 'dish' of normal 8x16s do not look as good as the 8x15s


Posted by: carr914 Jan 31 2013, 03:06 PM

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In my opinion the 'dish' of normal 8x16s do not look as good as the 8x15s


Depends on if your looking at a 911 or 944 16x8"

Posted by: Eric_Shea Jan 31 2013, 07:27 PM

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...the rears are modded and have the stepped 'look' of 8x15s but with the 16" diameter. Very cool.

In my opinion the 'dish' of normal 8x16s do not look as good as the 8x15s


Rob's mod can't really be seen... Harvey added a 1/2" to the inside. confused24.gif

They do look nice though... biggrin.gif

Posted by: MDG Jan 31 2013, 07:53 PM

Hmmm . . . let's see,

The Fuchs on this one are 7's & 8s x 16 (refinished by Harvey)

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The Fuchs on this one are 8.5's & 11's x 19

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