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Posted by: jsconst Nov 12 2012, 11:19 AM
With the purchase of my 3rd 914, and winter coming I thought it was time to take a break from the cars and start working on my shop. Originally I was going to build a seperate building, but recently we shipped my daughters horse to her in Texas, and now with only one left I started looking at the unused space in our barn.
I built the barn 10 years ago, as a 4 stall barn, 34' X 36'. Seperating off the two end stalls would give me a 24' X 34' shop....works for me. 
Here is the "Barn" end.
And the "Shop" side.
And the inside before the transformation begins.
So last weekend I started moving the horse stuff out, and tearing out the stalls.
Got most of it tore out, and used some of the material to start seperating the two sides. Had to leave one post on each side for now, supporting the roof. My engineer friend is designing a box beam to support it so I can take all the posts out.
My other buddy, concrete contractor, spreading the base rock.
Base in and spread, even had enough to start a driveway. 
This weekend got the base raked and compacted, put in some bracing so I could remove the last two posts, and started laying rebar.
Today finish up the rebar, and install expansion joint material around the edges.
Hoping to pour concrete this week. 
It will be nice to have the extra space this winter......besides what if I find another 914 I can't live without. 
Jeff
Posted by: Tom_T Nov 12 2012, 11:30 AM
Jeff,
Hopefully you've got Visquene under there, so that you don't get rehydrolyzing of the horse urine acids filtering up through the slab. Probably want to put an epoxy sealer on top too in any case, just to be safe.
You may want to seal off the rafter space, do a vapor barrier & finished wall & ceiling in there too, to prevent the same urine acids from the active stalls coming across.
I say that since our 914s are so susceptible to the tin worm, and that urine acid will act in the same way as salt water spray, which I unfortunately have experience with on my 914. 
Up there in Galt/Central Valley, one of those thru the wall heat pump stand-alone HVACs would be nice too!
Nice big workspace.....I've only got a 1921 17.5 w x 18.0 d carriage house/garage which is packed with my 914, the 914 shell, & parts out the wazoo!
Have fun!
Tom
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Posted by: jsconst Nov 12 2012, 04:44 PM
Didn't put plastic down, one side of the area was only used as hay storage, the other side was an oversized stall used only for birthing, which only happen once, but while my buddy was here with the bobcat, we dug out the dirt in that area and replaced it with base, compacting as we filled, so one side is 8" the other 24" in base rock. I do plan on epoxy sealing it once the concrete cures enough.
Do need to seal up between the barn side to the roofing, insulate, upgrade the electrical, roll up door, better lighting............I could go on, I'll be glad just to have the concrete poured for now to make it at least storage, the rest will come as time and $ allow.
I've got my 25 x 25 garage to work in for now.
Jeff
Posted by: billh1963 Nov 12 2012, 04:50 PM
Looking good!
Posted by: Chris H. Nov 12 2012, 04:54 PM
OT? No sir...that news is ON TOPIC! 
looks great Jeff. Perfect teener work space....until you buy more 914's.... 
Posted by: jsconst Nov 13 2012, 09:09 AM
Thanks guys, actually there is Porsche content, two of the pictures have porsches in them, a 914 in one and a boxster in another.
Got everything finished yesterday, just waiting for my friend to pour it, should be this week 
Jeff
Posted by: pete-stevers Nov 13 2012, 10:09 AM
I like it ...workin ON the shop rather than IN the shop!
Thats what i am doing this year, insulation and insurable wood stove for heat
not to mention a bit of paint..
Posted by: Vysoc Nov 13 2012, 06:04 PM
Awesome project, I would give my left #@$ for a set-up like that!
Enjoy...... most of us are jealous!!!
Good Luck with the pour!
Vysoc 
PS: I think I will just drill more spot welds out of a rusty floor board tonight!
Posted by: jsconst Nov 15 2012, 09:42 PM
Well tomorrow's the day...pouring concrete at 8:00
Jeff
Posted by: flippa Nov 15 2012, 10:31 PM
Looking good Jeff! That is going to be a real nice space when done.
I have the space on my property and already have plans for a pole barn drawn up. I just need the time and cash.
Good luck with the pour.
Posted by: jsconst Nov 15 2012, 11:48 PM
Exactly...time, no cash...cash, no time. That's why this project has been put off so long.
Rain forecasted, hopefully it will be light, since it's under a roof it's getting poured.
Jeff
Posted by: Cairo94507 Nov 16 2012, 08:03 AM
When it comes to construction I am just a big kid. I love watching cement work being done. Have fun.
Posted by: jsconst Nov 16 2012, 08:13 AM
When it comes to construction I am just a big kid. I love watching cement work being done. Have fun.
Ya I like watching it too....not so much actually doing it.
Can't wait to have done though.
Jeff
Posted by: jsconst Nov 17 2012, 10:45 AM
Since the shop was going to take more than one truck could haul I decided to pour a slab in my dog kennel also. I had one area in the covered part of the kennel, that I didn't have a slab in.
The weather held off, only had a few scattered showers here and there. Got the trucks in and poured before the nasty weather hit.
The dog kennel poured and finished
The shop poured and finished 
Now the fun begins, finishing off the inside.
Jeff
Posted by: McMark Nov 17 2012, 08:46 PM
That is really awesome!
Posted by: Gint Nov 18 2012, 01:23 AM
Nice!
Posted by: jsconst Nov 18 2012, 08:54 AM
Thanks everyone, I'm excited now 
having the concrete poured is a major hurdle, probably the most expensive part of the project. The rest I can at least do alittle at a time till it's done, but at least it's usable space now.
Now with two project cars and the shop to finish I should be able to stay out of trouble for awhile 
Jeff
Posted by: turk22 Nov 18 2012, 09:51 AM
So Jealous.....
Posted by: ww914 Nov 18 2012, 11:07 AM
Man, what a nice garage. It sure would have been nice to install a sunken lift, but I know, lot of dough.
Posted by: Drums66 Nov 18 2012, 03:12 PM
.....Cool digs
(so much you can do with that)
Posted by: aircooledtechguy Nov 19 2012, 10:04 PM
Lookin' good!!
You know what that needs now right?? http://www.rotarylift.com/templateProduct.aspx?id=732
Posted by: jsconst Nov 19 2012, 11:55 PM
A lift is in the future, but not in the budget for now. I did think about it though since I was pouring the floor, but decided I wouldn't want to permanently install one. I tend to change things around and would probably regret anywhere I decided to put it.
Besides I still have a lot to do just to get the shop finished, once it's done then I'll start thinking about lifts.
Jeff
Posted by: carr914 Nov 20 2012, 07:08 AM
When you get around to buying a Lift - Buy American. I have a Rotary 4 Post & love it. I have mine bolted into the floor, but they have a Caster kit so you can roll & move it.
Posted by: Scott S Nov 20 2012, 09:13 AM
That is so cool. 
My dream is to rennovate a barn for a shop (and recording studio) someday (a wood barn).
I have all of my junk in a rented prefab concrete slab warehouse. It works well, but it is totally soul-less.
Again, so so so cool. Congrats!
Posted by: wingnut86 Nov 21 2012, 10:36 AM
Vedy nice Jeff
Are you installing an overhead metal beam for hoist and rigging?
Seriously beautiful space - only gear heads, grease monkeys and rabid Porsche fans can truly appreciate the passion that goes into this work.
BillH1963 is thinking of expanding his storage out West- maybe you could rent him a space? He's starting his British collection though, so double up on cardboard and kitty litter
Posted by: timothy_nd28 Nov 21 2012, 01:27 PM
You should of thrown down some pex pipe before the concrete pour. Radiant heat is awfully nice in the winter.
Posted by: arkitect Nov 21 2012, 01:44 PM
Thanks for posting your progress. I have a concrete slab to work on but its exposed so I am dependant on good weather to work on the car.
Nice to have a large covered area with power to work on the teeners. Good luck with your progress.
Dave
Posted by: billh1963 Nov 21 2012, 04:03 PM
BillH1963 is thinking of expanding his storage out West- maybe you could rent him a space? He's starting his British collection though, so double up on cardboard and kitty litter
Not storing out west. Although, I am looking a 914 in California
Posted by: jsconst Nov 22 2012, 09:37 AM
Thanks everyone, almost didn't post this, glad everyone is enjoying it.
Don't have plans for a metal beam, no hoisting with a 914 just jacking and jackstands But its always something that could be added
Should be a fun project finishing the inside, I've almost got it pictured in my head.
Already got heat handled, bought this shop heater last year, put it in my garage for now....nice and toasty 
Oh, Bill if you buy a 914 out here and need temporary storage...I might have room.
Happy Thanksgiving everyone,
Jeff
Posted by: timothy_nd28 Nov 22 2012, 10:38 AM
That hanging unit should work nicely. Be very sure that this piece is indeed connected! 
Posted by: jsconst Nov 22 2012, 11:06 AM
That hanging unit should work nicely. Be very sure that this piece is indeed connected!
No worries, I'm a general contractor, it's connected, the piece on top is just an extra length of pipe I stuck on top as an extra heat shield, not really needed but I had it.
Jeff
Posted by: BarberDave Nov 22 2012, 11:17 AM
Here is my story. Restored my old 63 , in a 60 X 80 , very old pole barn, with dirt
floor, in 2000 ish, god you could have almost driven the 914 thru the gaps in the
sideing, started in Oct. finished in time for Hershey ,2001.
And I was 12 yrs. younger, with the help of 2 very good friends !!!!!
Sold that 914 to Bill H1963 a yr. ago June. Moved to the country, Yea Farmers !
I found a friend that owns storage facilites ,6 of them. So he ask me if I need room
to restore and build my 6. I of course said " YES ". he said i can have
2 ,( 10 X20 ,as in FREE , even will heat and install Elc. , I feel in and came out
smelling like a Rose. More to this, have to leave for my Daughters for Thanksgiving
Dinner. Wife says I am dead IF I don't come now. Mabe chapter 2 later.
Dave 
Posted by: jsconst Nov 22 2012, 10:56 PM
Decided to take advantage of the extra bodies here today, and got some cars moved around. Pushed the yellow car down and put it in the shop, then pushed the black car in the garage, going to start removing the rotary engine tomorrow.
After I got the yellow car parked in the shop I started looking around.....I bet I could get six in there easy 
Nice to finally have all my cars under a roof 
Jeff
Posted by: billh1963 Nov 23 2012, 07:56 AM
Decided to take advantage of the extra bodies here today, and got some cars moved around. Pushed the yellow car down and put it in the shop, then pushed the black car in the garage, going to start removing the rotary engine tomorrow.
After I got the yellow car parked in the shop I started looking around.....I bet I could get six in there easy
Nice to finally have all my cars under a roof
Jeff
I appreciate the offers of storage!
However, it looks like you have enough room that you be buying up all the west coast cars for the next couple of months!
Posted by: billh1963 Nov 23 2012, 07:56 AM
Here is my story. Restored my old 63 , in a 60 X 80 , very old pole barn, with dirt
floor, in 2000 ish, god you could have almost driven the 914 thru the gaps in the
sideing, started in Oct. finished in time for Hershey ,2001.
And I was 12 yrs. younger, with the help of 2 very good friends !!!!!
Sold that 914 to Bill H1963 a yr. ago June. Moved to the country, Yea Farmers !
I found a friend that owns storage facilites ,6 of them. So he ask me if I need room
to restore and build my 6. I of course said " YES ". he said i can have
2 ,( 10 X20 ,as in FREE , even will heat and install Elc. , I feel in and came out
smelling like a Rose. More to this, have to leave for my Daughters for Thanksgiving
Dinner. Wife says I am dead IF I don't come now. Mabe chapter 2 later.
Dave
Dave....did you buy a 6 ?????
Posted by: Gint Nov 23 2012, 11:04 AM
Lots of room in there.
Posted by: jbyron Nov 23 2012, 11:53 AM
Real nice, Jeff. Green with envy :-)
Posted by: BarberDave Nov 23 2012, 02:03 PM
Bill, Not a complete one YET !!!! I have a 3.0 engine and trans. And verious other
parts, looking for a v. good body. Start date Jan. 1 st. , but my health is like a yo
yo right now. If I can't do that, then box it up & ship it to Scotty or Brad M. for
them to complete. Or if health doesn't improve enought to just drive it to Hersey,
East Coast Cook out, M.S.U.R. and may be 3 others. I will sell it or set it on fire
or blow it up. I really don't think thats to unreasonable ! Just 6 times a yr.
Dave
Posted by: jsconst Jun 14 2013, 11:11 PM
Started working on the shop again, so far its just been storage for the yellow 914, the black 914, the boxster, and my tractor.
Then I added the red parts car, but i've cut so much of the rear off and taken half the suspension off, so today I made a 914 dolly out of some scrape wood and some scaffold wheels, so I could move it around.
Started getting the side of the building ready to pour the slab for phase II, was supposed to be poured on monday, and could cure while I was at WCR......But No 
my EX- concrete contractor screwed me and couldn't get it done.
So Eric (erben914) and his friend (a concrete finisher), are coming over tomorrow to help me get it poured. Thanks Eric!!
So I'll miss WCR but my slab will get poured.
Sooooo, since I wasn't going to WCR and had the time worked out to be off, I went and bought the materials and started building the box beams to support the roof.
Going up!
And finally in, that really opens it up.
Pouring concrete tomorrow, then taking the white car and heading to Capitola on Sunday to spend it with my Dad, then Monday he has a boat in Santa Cruz harbor, so its a little ocean fishing, then a drive back home. 
My mini WCR
Jeff
Posted by: timothy_nd28 Jun 14 2013, 11:18 PM
Consider throwing down some pex pipe before the pour. Heated floors are very nice
Posted by: jsconst Jun 14 2013, 11:36 PM
Consider throwing down some pex pipe before the pour. Heated floors are very nice
Won't need it for the added space, it's mainly for tractor storage, and parts storage, so the main shop area stays more open and uncluttered
but that's the plan. Besides, scroll back.....I already have a rock'n shop heater, plus I live in California.....it doesn't get cold here.
Jeff
Posted by: Erben914 Jun 15 2013, 12:06 AM
Not to be that guy but I hope you plan on putting post under all that beam you just built! I see it on the double plate but you should at least throw a 4x post in yeah? 
Don't worry I'm still coming to help
See you in... About seven hours. I better go to bed
Posted by: rick 918-S Jun 15 2013, 05:28 AM
Are you planning a support here? The beam looks nice if you glued the box but supporting it on a single header is likely a bad idea.
Nice space 
Posted by: jsconst Jun 15 2013, 06:09 AM
Geez guys, give me a break, I barely got it up yesterday, (im old ya know) it's not finished yet.
And yes eventually there will be a post to the foundation, but for you worry warts, the beam and the load it carries is not as heavy as you might think......it's not going anywhere.
Jeff
Posted by: rick 918-S Jun 15 2013, 06:37 AM
Geez guys, give me a break, I barely got it up yesterday, (im old ya know)
it's not finished yet. And yes eventually there will be a post to the foundation, but for you worry warts, the beam and the load it carries is not as heavy as you might think......it's not going anywhere.
Jeff
Ya, your not carrying the snow loads we get here.
Posted by: jsconst Jun 15 2013, 12:58 PM
Concrete arrived on time at 6:30 this morning, Eric showed up with two of his kids, so we didn't have to work as hard.
Erics friend Wendell is awesome, he pretty much did everthing once the concrete was on the ground, and it turned out great. 
By 9:30 it was poured and finished. Thanks Wendell and Eric!
Now time to get the 914 cleaned up and ready to drive to Capitola tomorrow. ......... Maybe after a nap, I am supposed to be on vacation.
Jeff
Posted by: jsconst Jun 22 2013, 07:29 PM
Sunday Morning I drove to Capitola and spent the day with my Dad.
I stayed over and Monday we went out on his boat and did some fishing.
Brought back 10 decent rock cod. Then a nice drive home.
Took off early from work on Friday and got the second beam built.
This morning I went out before it got hot and started putting up the second beam.
Unfortunately I didn't finish before it got hot, but I got it done. 
Both beams up, really opens it up.
Still have to finish supporting them, but now I can start framing the wall between the two spaces, and frame the door opening for a roll up door.
Well that wore me out so now its time to grab a beer, lay on the couch, and fall asleep watching golf. ![yellowsleep[1].gif](style_emoticons/default/yellowsleep[1].gif)
More to come,
Jeff
Posted by: jsconst Sep 13 2013, 10:17 PM
Well my trip is done, time to get back to working on the shop. Been working close to home, so took off early thursday and friday and got some walls framed for the addition on the side of the shop.
Still have a few things left to be finished with the walls, then start framing the roof so I can get the metal on. Working on it this weekend and next, and after work during the week I should be able to have it closed in soon, then just the inside to finish off.
Be nice to finally get it done.
Jeff
Posted by: rhodyguy Sep 14 2013, 06:30 AM
very clever and cost effective with the box beams. did you glue them up too or just nails?
k
Posted by: jsconst Sep 14 2013, 07:19 AM
very clever and cost effective with the box beams. did you glue them up too or just nails?
k
They work well if you have the space, these were calculated with just nailing the plywood on....but I used lots of glue, stronger is always better.
Jeff
Posted by: jsconst Sep 20 2013, 10:09 PM
Well I worked after work every day this week and got the roof framed and ready for metal.
Got off today, stretched out a vapor barrier, and got the metal on the roof. 
So now my shop has 24' X 48' of covered space. Now i need to get the windows in so I can start closing in the walls. Then I have all winter to finish off the inside.
Got the roof on just in time......rain forcasted for tomorrow.
Jeff
Posted by: JRust Sep 20 2013, 11:30 PM
Looking great bud! Hard to beat having space to work on your teener out of the elements. Although you are in CA so I guess you just need to get out of the heat
Posted by: jsconst Sep 28 2013, 09:41 AM
Thanks Jamie, the day after I put the roof on it poured rain all day.
Glad the roof was done.
Ended up taking most of this week off to get more done on the shop. Got the windows in and the siding on, framed the opening for my roll up door, and framed an opening between the shop and the storage area. 
Yesterday I started moving everything out of the main shop area.
Today I'm going to finish moving and cleaning up......then bring in the two post lift and get it installed. the scissor lift has been handy....but can't wait to have the two post usable.
Cleaned up ready for the lift. 
Should probably finish the outside trim and get it ready for paint....but installing the lift sounds like more fun.
Jeff
Posted by: Randal Sep 28 2013, 09:55 AM
Like being in Paradise with all that space. Nice work.
Posted by: jsconst Sep 28 2013, 04:27 PM
Like being in Paradise with all that space. Nice work.
Thanks, after working in a 2 car garage, with the washer/dryer, wife and dogs in and out......this is going to be like paradise, all the extra room, and lift is really going to make it more enjoyable to work on my projects.
Jeff
Posted by: jsconst Sep 28 2013, 04:35 PM
Getting the lift off the trailer into the shop wasn't too bad. The HF car dollies came in handy.
One post up......one to go
Both up and in place, they barely fit between the beams....but they fit. Thats why I had such a hard time finding the right two post lift, most were too wide, thats why when I found this one for a good price I had to jump on it....Thanks again Jim.
Still need to drill the holes and bolt it down, then run the electrical. Should get that done tomorrow....then it will be functional.
Jeff
Posted by: ConeDodger Sep 29 2013, 12:35 AM
outstanding Jeff!
Posted by: Cairo94507 Sep 29 2013, 07:57 AM
Nice work Jeff. You will kick yourself for doing w/o a lift for so long.
Posted by: jsconst Sep 29 2013, 09:00 AM
outstanding Jeff!Nice work Jeff. You will kick yourself for doing w/o a lift for so long.
Thanks Rob, it's really starting to come together. Exciting times.
Your right Michael, just the little I have used the scissor lift makes me wonder why I waited so long, used ones can be found cheap.....there's really no excuse.
I've spent way more money on less useful things....makes you think....what was I thinking....all that crawling around.
Jeff
Posted by: bcheney Sep 29 2013, 09:20 AM
outstanding Jeff!Nice work Jeff. You will kick yourself for doing w/o a lift for so long.
Thanks Rob, it's really starting to come together. Exciting times.
Your right Michael, just the little I have used the scissor lift makes me wonder why I waited so long, used ones can be found cheap.....there's really no excuse.
I've spent way more money on less useful things....makes you think....what was I thinking....all that crawling around.
Jeff
What does a lift like that go for new or used these days? Your shop looks nice.
Posted by: jsconst Sep 29 2013, 09:59 AM
What does a lift like that go for new or used these days? Your shop looks nice.
New anywhere from $1500 -$6000+, I found my scissor lift on Craigslist for $700, found the two post on Craigslist too for $875, just have to keep looking.
Jeff
Posted by: euro911 Sep 29 2013, 10:11 AM
I picked up a used Bend Pak LR-60 mid-rise lift for $600. last Wednesday. I had to drive 100+ miles (Santa Barbara) to get it, but it was worth it.
It came from a body shop, so it has a lot of Bondo dust on it, but a little 409 and some elbow grease should take care of that.
Keep checking on Craigslist ![popcorn[1].gif](style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
Did you have to pull a permit for your shop, Jeff?
Posted by: Elliot Cannon Sep 29 2013, 01:17 PM
outstanding Jeff!Nice work Jeff. You will kick yourself for doing w/o a lift for so long.
Thanks Rob, it's really starting to come together. Exciting times.
Your right Michael, just the little I have used the scissor lift makes me wonder why I waited so long, used ones can be found cheap.....there's really no excuse.
I've spent way more money on less useful things....makes you think....what was I thinking....all that crawling around.
Jeff
You really appreciate things like a nice lift as you get older. The shop looks great. I really envy all the space. My "garage" is 17' X 17' with a seven foot ceiling. To make the most of my scissor lift, I half to take the roof off the car, lower the garage door about half way, raise the car so that the windshield and the targa bar fit between the ceiling joists. I've just had to learn to live with the space I have.
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Posted by: JimN73 Sep 29 2013, 05:27 PM
Any time, Jeff. I'm always up for a field trip, especially if there's a good beer with it.
Getting the lift off the trailer into the shop wasn't too bad. The HF car dollies came in handy.
One post up......one to go
Both up and in place, they barely fit between the beams....but they fit. Thats why I had such a hard time finding the right two post lift, most were too wide, thats why when I found this one for a good price I had to jump on it....Thanks again Jim.
Still need to drill the holes and bolt it down, then run the electrical. Should get that done tomorrow....then it will be functional.
Jeff
Posted by: r_towle Sep 29 2013, 09:21 PM
outstanding Jeff!Nice work Jeff. You will kick yourself for doing w/o a lift for so long.
Thanks Rob, it's really starting to come together. Exciting times.
Your right Michael, just the little I have used the scissor lift makes me wonder why I waited so long, used ones can be found cheap.....there's really no excuse.
I've spent way more money on less useful things....makes you think....what was I thinking....all that crawling around.
Jeff
You really appreciate things like a nice lift as you get older. The shop looks great. I really envy all the space. My "garage" is 17' X 17' with a seven foot ceiling. To make the most of my scissor lift, I half to take the roof off the car, lower the garage door about half way, raise the car so that the windshield and the targa bar fit between the ceiling joists. I've just had to learn to live with the space I have.
Nice trick, my car goes up one notch lower than complete.
It's almost 6 feet to the bottom, but I am 6'2 so I still knock my skull frequently.
Going to see if I can tuck it up with the roof off...in between the trusses.
Posted by: Elliot Cannon Sep 29 2013, 11:11 PM
outstanding Jeff!Nice work Jeff. You will kick yourself for doing w/o a lift for so long.
Thanks Rob, it's really starting to come together. Exciting times.
Your right Michael, just the little I have used the scissor lift makes me wonder why I waited so long, used ones can be found cheap.....there's really no excuse.
I've spent way more money on less useful things....makes you think....what was I thinking....all that crawling around.
Jeff
You really appreciate things like a nice lift as you get older. The shop looks great. I really envy all the space. My "garage" is 17' X 17' with a seven foot ceiling. To make the most of my scissor lift, I half to take the roof off the car, lower the garage door about half way, raise the car so that the windshield and the targa bar fit between the ceiling joists. I've just had to learn to live with the space I have.
Nice trick, my car goes up one notch lower than complete.
It's almost 6 feet to the bottom, but I am 6'2 so I still knock my skull frequently.
Going to see if I can tuck it up with the roof off...in between the trusses.
Posted by: rhodyguy Sep 30 2013, 09:36 AM
a nice little front end loader, huge garage space, 2 lifts...heaven.
Posted by: JStroud Oct 27 2013, 10:45 PM
Thanks everyone, seems like its taking forever, but life and work, and playing with cars keeps getting in the way. Nice find on the lift Mark, and you should know everything in California requires a permit, how else can they jack your taxes.
Haven't got the two post set up to use yet, looked up the electrical requirements for the motor, requires a 25amp 220 circuit, only have a 30 amp service to the building...up till now just needed lights and one outlet. I knew i needed to upgrade the electrical service....guess I'll need to get it done before I can start using the two post.
Had to use the sissor lift to pull the motor so I could take my tranny to the clinic.
Got the roll up door in, and the metal walk through door, did a little clean up inside and out this weekend. Still have some trim to finish up, then I need to get it painted so the outside will be ready for winter.
Jeff
Posted by: euro911 Oct 28 2013, 01:11 AM
Nice. Wished I had a big back yard to build my own shop. Down here, they want you to pull a permit to change your toilet 
Your electrical upgrade shouldn't be too tough if you installed over-sized conduits
These little mid-rise lifts are great. Just sorry I didn't get one years ago - would have finished a lot of projects a long time ago ... hoping to drop the motor out of the bug for a quick reseal and clean-up this coming week 
Posted by: rhodyguy Oct 28 2013, 08:41 AM
can you run a stand alone sub-panel from the main to power the lift?
Posted by: JStroud Oct 28 2013, 08:41 AM
Your electrical upgrade shouldn't be too tough if you installed over-sized conduits
I only used 3/4" conduit when I ran the service out originally.
But, I can get three # 6 wire in 3/4 which will give me up to a 70 amp service.
That's going to have to do for now, should be enough. If not then I'll have to break out my trencher and run a new service to the main panel, but that shouldn't be necessary.
With the way the weather seems to be turning I should probably get the outside done first and painted, plus I have another car to pick up and get inside before the rain starts......oops.
Jeff
Posted by: JStroud Oct 28 2013, 08:54 AM
can you run a stand alone sub-panel from the main to power the lift?
This building is 60' from the main house where the main panel is, I have a sub panel in the building, but it's only 30 amp with only #10 wire feeding it. Running a separate line from the main panel would be more work than just upgrading the existing service, then running a plug for the lift from that subpanel. Plus the whole service needs to be upgrades anyway besides the lift, I've got my 220 compressor also, plus 30amps wouldn't even be enough for just all the lights and plugs I'm adding.
Jeff
Posted by: rhodyguy Oct 28 2013, 10:03 AM
looks like its time for a 200amp panel. in the big picture the panel itself is cheap. when i r&r'd it was the new breakers that blew up the budget. like 914s. i'd put in a separate ground rod and bond for the shop.
k
Posted by: Dr Evil Oct 28 2013, 10:27 AM
Oh, that is the place you want to hold the next Nor Cal clinic. Nice
Posted by: McMark Oct 28 2013, 02:25 PM
It's just begging for a transmission clinic. 
Posted by: JStroud Oct 28 2013, 11:34 PM
looks like its time for a 200amp panel. in the big picture the panel itself is cheap. when i r&r'd it was the new breakers that blew up the budget. like 914s. i'd put in a separate ground rod and bond for the shop.
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Main Panel is 200 amp now. I think just upgrading to the 70Amp sub panel in the shop will have to do for now, already have a seperate ground in the building from when I built it and installed the existing service, required for all sub panels in this county.
Jeff
Posted by: JStroud Oct 28 2013, 11:43 PM
Oh, that is the place you want to hold the next Nor Cal clinic. Nice
It's just begging for a transmission clinic.
I was thinking a place for any 914 events, work party BBQ's, just BBQ's,
clinics, whatever. I've got lots of room, RV hook ups, two RV dump stations.
Cheaper hotels near by, pool, spa, horse shoe pits, and I'm installing a lawn area with fire pit and BBQ back by the shop.
I put together a drawing to better illustrate the final layout, couldn't post it from my drawing file so had to print it and take a picture with my crappy old Iphone, so we'll see how good the image is but you'll get the idea.
Once I get it done I'll throw a BBQ, and we'll see how it works out.
Jeff
Posted by: euro911 Oct 29 2013, 04:31 AM
Now don't get too carried away with that large expanse of 'Lawn Area' 
Nice layout 
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