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Posted by: '73-914kid Nov 14 2012, 08:50 AM
I started a thread in the member vendor section to keep the garage clean. Please commit over there, and not here to keep things organized. Thanks everyone!
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=198416
Hey guys, so a friend of mine owns a store that sells wheel stud conversion kits for BMW's, and is getting involved in Porsches. He had mentioned being interested in selling a kit for 914's at a group buy price if enough people were interested in it.
The kit includes 16 thread in studs, and 16 high quality ball seat nuts. (these nuts are not the cheap imitators. These actually fit our ball seat wheels). Both are made in Europe and are TUV certified, so it's good quality hardware.
The studs are bullet nose, and thread in with an allen wrench. Installation is easy, and only require the removal of you wheels.
Here's a pic from his website of the dimensions of the stud that will come with the kit:
I'll know pricing options when I get back with him later today, but for those interested, please chime in.
Thanks everyone, Ethan
Okay, we have pricing back
Pricing:
The available kits are as follows:
4-Lug (16 studs and nuts)
82mm with Silver/yellow Zinc Ball seat nuts: $100shipped
82mm with Black OEM grade Zinc Ball seat nuts: $137shipped
5-lug (20 studs and nuts)
82mm with Silver/yellow Zinc Ball seat nuts: $110shipped
82mm with Black OEM grade Zinc Ball seat nuts: $147shipped
Discount structure:
1-10 kits - Prices posted above (Special introductory pricing!)
11-20 kits - $5.00off
21-30 kits - $7.00off
31-40+ kits - $10.00off
We're aiming for an end date of December 9th at midnight.
Payment instructions will come after the group buy has closed.
For those who want to receive their studs BEFORE the group buy has ended, that is available, but you would forfeit any further discounts.
For example, say we have 24 people. If you want to receive your set now, you would only be eligible for the $7 off. If the group buy reaches another discount tier, you would forfeit that discount.
Posted by: helios Nov 14 2012, 09:01 AM
Pending price.
Posted by: falconfp2001 Nov 14 2012, 09:19 AM
I'm in. Looks like a good deal either way. 
Posted by: gothspeed Nov 14 2012, 09:37 AM
If you did one stud at a time, you would not have to remove your wheels or even need to jack the car .. 
I hope this does not throw the GB into a tailspin, but would a 20 stud kit be available? maybe in longer lengths?
Posted by: '73-914kid Nov 14 2012, 09:41 AM
20 stud kits are also available. I'll have to ask him if he wants to discount the price for a kit of 20 for the group buy as well, and I'll ask him about lengths. I'll get back to you 
Posted by: biosurfer1 Nov 14 2012, 09:51 AM
I'm in, pending price
Posted by: jimkelly Nov 14 2012, 09:55 AM
studs make changing tires so much easier.
i got mine here...
http://www.race-studs.com/servlet/the-Race-Series-Studs/Categories
16 studs 14x1.5x80mm (??) $65+-
and
16 nuts 14mm (??) $32+-
so about $100 + ship for a 4 lug car.
i don't see any that have both a seat and an allen head ?? as all rotor holes go all the way thru it seems, thus i'd assume a seat is preferrable??
**CORRECTION - Shea SUGGESTS RED loctite - see below **
jim
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Posted by: '73-914kid Nov 14 2012, 10:01 AM
The group buy price will be better than $100. Thats all i know thus far...haha.
And yes, blue loctite to install them.
Posted by: wingnut86 Nov 14 2012, 10:44 AM
I'd be in for a 20 stud kit...
Posted by: SLKWrx Nov 14 2012, 10:46 AM
Definitely interested in this. I'd love to get rid of the headache of lug bolts.
Blue Loctite? Not Red for wheel studs?
Posted by: '73-914kid Nov 14 2012, 10:55 AM
Blue loctite is plenty fine for wheel studs. If you use red, they'll never ever comeout, and if you have to change front rotors, you'll have to buy a new stud kit
Eric says Red Loctite.. I'd trust him on this one
Posted by: eric9144 Nov 14 2012, 02:59 PM
I might be in...any idea what the finish on the nuts will be? or form factor (i.e. open end)?
Posted by: Lennies914 Nov 14 2012, 03:38 PM
I'm in for 16.
Posted by: '73-914kid Nov 14 2012, 06:39 PM
Group buy prices are being finalized tonight.
So, there will be 4 options for the stud conversions:
1. 4-lug car with black zinc coated lug nuts
2. 4-lug car with yellow zinc coated lug nuts
3. 5-lug car with black zinc lug nuts
4. 5-lug car with yellow zinc lug nuts.
The lug nuts are all open ended as they were developed to be run with various spacer heights, etc.
I should know pricing later this evening.
Posted by: arg Nov 14 2012, 07:20 PM
Ethan Iam in for a set of 4 lug black
Thanks
Tony G
Posted by: '73-914kid Nov 14 2012, 07:44 PM
Okay everyone, sorry for posting every 10 minutes or so..
I won't know pricing until probably the end of the weekend given how busy Ryan is. If everyone can hang on until then for pricing, it would be very much so appreciated.
Thanks for the interest thus far guys!
Posted by: Vacca Rabite Nov 14 2012, 08:30 PM
In for a set, price dependant.
Posted by: cwpeden Nov 14 2012, 09:33 PM
Blue loctite is plenty fine for wheel studs. If you use red, they'll never ever comeout, and if you have to change front rotors, you'll have to buy a new stud kit
Red Loctite isn't permanent, 15 seconds with a simple propane torch will loosen the Loctite. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if our rotors get hot enough sometimes to soften it.
Caliper paint is good to 1200F plus for a reason, Loctite red only needs about 500F to soften. I use it on a daily basis both going together and coming apart with very few failures.
Glad someone is coming with a stud kit. I've talked with a few people about it we have always been a little apprehensive with respect to grade of bolt and proper nut ect.
Just my $.02.
Posted by: Eric_Shea Nov 15 2012, 10:39 AM
Do not use Blue for this. Use Red ONLY. If you change rotors you simply heat with a torch and they come right out.
Posted by: '73-914kid Nov 15 2012, 10:42 AM
Do not use Blue for this. Use Red ONLY. If you change rotors you simply heat with a torch and they come right out.
Thanks Eric, I changed my post
Posted by: SLKWrx Nov 15 2012, 11:49 AM
Do not use Blue for this. Use Red ONLY. If you change rotors you simply heat with a torch and they come right out.
Whew, thought I was going crazy. Thanks for clearing it up.
Still in for one of these kits. Maybe even 2.
Posted by: mikehinton Nov 15 2012, 12:37 PM
I'd be interested in a set too.
Posted by: watsonrx13 Nov 15 2012, 12:49 PM
I'd be interested in a set too.
Me too...
--- Rob
Posted by: able2222 Nov 15 2012, 01:37 PM
I'd be interested if the nuts work with stock Fuchs (2 liter) 4 hole wheels.
Posted by: ned911 Nov 15 2012, 01:45 PM
Interested as well.
Posted by: zymurgist Nov 15 2012, 03:07 PM
I'll take 1 set, 4-lug, black.
Posted by: Vacca Rabite Nov 17 2012, 07:06 PM
Is there pricing yet?
Zach
Posted by: '73-914kid Nov 17 2012, 11:56 PM
Not yet Zach. By Monday at the latest I'll have pricing for the 4 different options.
Posted by: lonewolfe Nov 18 2012, 01:51 AM
Hey, I've been wanting to do this conversion. Let me know when you have pricing.
Y
Hey guys, so a friend of mine owns a store that sells wheel stud conversion kits for BMW's, and is getting involved in Porsches. He had mentioned being interested in selling a kit for 914's at a group buy price if enough people were interested in it.
The kit includes 16 thread in studs, and 16 high quality ball seat nuts. (these nuts are not the cheap imitators. These actually fit our ball seat wheels). Both are made in Europe and are TUV certified, so it's good quality hardware.
The studs are bullet nose, and thread in with an allen wrench. Installation is easy, and only require the removal of you wheels.
Here's a pic from his website of the dimensions of the stud that will come with the kit:
I'll know pricing options when I get back with him later today, but for those interested, please chime in.
Thanks everyone, Ethan
Posted by: kharma Nov 18 2012, 09:20 AM
Interested, 16 / black.
Posted by: Trekkor Nov 18 2012, 12:36 PM
I'm interested as well.
Can I get cone seat lug nuts instead?
KT
Posted by: '73-914kid Nov 18 2012, 03:40 PM
You can Trek.
Posted by: Trekkor Nov 18 2012, 08:14 PM
Cool!
KT
Posted by: '73-914kid Nov 19 2012, 09:57 AM
I'd be interested if the nuts work with stock Fuchs (2 liter) 4 hole wheels.
Yup, the seat radius fits 2.0L fuchs perfectly
Posted by: billh1963 Nov 19 2012, 10:15 AM
I'm in for a couple of sets pending some pictures. I really need to these on a car with 2.0 Fuchs to feel comfortable with the look!
Posted by: Vacca Rabite Nov 19 2012, 02:47 PM
There is no problem with the thread in Member Vendor, but group buys are permitted to run in the Garage, and this is a classic group buy.
Zach
Posted by: '73-914kid Nov 19 2012, 03:04 PM
Haha, okay Zach. I had PM'ed Eric asking wether or not I should put the group buy here, or elsewhere, and he had said to put a link to it in the member vendor section. Should I move it to the garage?
Posted by: G e o r g e Nov 19 2012, 04:39 PM
Not to 
, but Jims link is cheaper on 4 lug cars.
5 lug cars are less expensive though.
Posted by: Vacca Rabite Nov 19 2012, 04:55 PM
Haha, okay Zach. I had PM'ed Eric asking wether or not I should put the group buy here, or elsewhere, and he had said to put a link to it in the member vendor section. Should I move it to the garage?
The thread is already there. Follow Eric's advice.
Posted by: '73-914kid Nov 19 2012, 05:01 PM
Not to
, but Jims link is cheaper on 4 lug cars.5 lug cars are less expensive though.
Unless I'm seeing things...
16 14x1.5mm 80mm studs $79.20
16 14x1.5mm yellow zinc nuts $27.04
total kit $106.24 +shipping
The kit for the group buy, assuming you're getting yellow zinc nuts is only $100 shipped, and may be less if people actually start committing to them in the other thread.
Not trying to start a pissing match at all, but I still believe these kits are cheaper..
Posted by: Vacca Rabite Nov 19 2012, 05:04 PM
Not to
, but Jims link is cheaper on 4 lug cars.5 lug cars are less expensive though.
Not really.
GB prices include shipping as well as a discount on the base price.
The difference is not going to be huge (maybe $20 to $25 for a 4 lug car) , but the GB prices will come out lower.
Shipping probably costs $10 to $15, and if we get 30 buyers we get $10 off the base price. Ends up being about 15% to 20% off total cost for a 4 lug car, more for a 5 lug car.
(assuming the silver,yellow zinc option.)
Zach
Posted by: G e o r g e Nov 19 2012, 05:52 PM
Not to
, but Jims link is cheaper on 4 lug cars.5 lug cars are less expensive though.
Unless I'm seeing things...
16 14x1.5mm 80mm studs $79.20
16 14x1.5mm yellow zinc nuts $27.04
total kit $106.24 +shipping
The kit for the group buy, assuming you're getting yellow zinc nuts is only $100 shipped, and may be less if people actually start committing to them in the other thread.
Not trying to start a pissing match at all, but I still believe these kits are cheaper..
using the performance grade studs that appear to have the allen head installation
14mm Porsche Steel Lug Nuts M14.US.911 14mm Porsche Steel Lug Nuts $1.69 X 16 = $27.04
M14x1.5 Performance Studs M14.US.80 M14x1.5 Performance Studs
(80mm) $2.95 X 16 = $47.20
equals $91.74 shipping included, YMMV
Probably not apples to apples,
but even using the studs you used, in your $79.20 figure, with the black nuts the cost to me would be 128.64 shipped to my door. which is less than your
$137 quote as the base price. for this option.
As I stated 5 lug cars are cheaper, this site is about 25% higher for the 5th lug and your offering is only 10% or less.
Posted by: '73-914kid Nov 19 2012, 06:26 PM
Again, apples to oranges. I called Ryan, and he said that they are not the same nuts, and made by a different manufacturer, not ACS. his kits are also TUV certified, which may not mean much to a lot of people, but they do have to undergo tests to meet certifications. They will not fail.
Are the ACS nuts good, yes, I'm sure they are, and they're also cheaper. (by $10) But the black nuts that come in the kit are higher quality and worth the price over ACS.
Posted by: G e o r g e Nov 19 2012, 06:27 PM
Ethan,
quick question are your studs 90mm? not the 82mm in your picture?
if so definitely not Apples to Apples.
Posted by: '73-914kid Nov 19 2012, 07:17 PM
Sorry, that was a typo, it is in fact 82mm on the studs. I'll change it after class
Posted by: G e o r g e Nov 19 2012, 08:17 PM
Just running numbers through my head it appears that if I or others can get 5 four lug cars in our area that want this it would be best to purchase 4 five lug sets at $110, then break them down our self at a cost of $88 per car. With further discounts applicable as the total number of sets sold increase. lowering the price down to as low as $78 per set?
I would be in for a set in the $80 range
would there be additional cost savings with multiple orders going to one location?
is tax included?
How does he sell 20 nuts for $5?
TUV wheel studs on Google search brings you right to http://www.motorsporthardware.com/cm/node/181
Posted by: '73-914kid Nov 19 2012, 08:30 PM
The website you found is the website he runs. Currently the group buy price for initial/entry level tier pricing on his website. This is a price that will be going up next month. The Porsche kits are a new addition to his line, so the initial price is just that, an introductory special. Prices will be going up soon. At the rate that all this is going however, it won't be long before we're down into 2nd or even 3rd tier pricing.
No special pricing for multiple kits to the same location. kits are shipped flat rate USPS.
Tax is included
Yes, if you can get enough people together to buy 5 kits, then distribute them off, you can.
Not sure exactly how he does his pricing break-down to be honest, but it's definetely a better deal to buy a whole kit, with nuts
Posted by: biosurfer1 Nov 19 2012, 08:41 PM
How does he sell 20 nuts for $5?
He doesn't...just because it's an add on to the stud kit doesn't mean he would sell them separately for $5.
It's a marketing thing...Just because you add fries and a drink for $1 to make a McD's combo doesn't mean they would sell you fries and a drink for $1.
Posted by: eric9144 Nov 19 2012, 09:06 PM
Anyone have an idea how much thread is going to come out of the nut on 4 bolt Fuchs? 
Just curious because I have no plans for spacers and don't want to have a ton of bolt sticking out...
Posted by: '73-914kid Nov 19 2012, 09:09 PM
I'm going to be ding an install on oldschool's (Jaime's 914) most likely next Monday once I'm back from Thanksgiving break. I'll have pictures for you and everyone else then Eric.
Posted by: eric9144 Nov 19 2012, 09:11 PM
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Posted by: Vacca Rabite Nov 22 2012, 11:39 AM
Bump to the top! We need more people for cheaper prices.
This is a simple thing you can do you your car which makes a hobby car much easier to live with. Lug bolts are a huge PITA. Studs are they way to go!
Posted by: r3dplanet Nov 22 2012, 12:50 PM
I'm in for one set of the 4-lug with black zinc coated lug nuts.
-m.
Posted by: lonewolfe Nov 23 2012, 11:45 AM
Maybe I missed it but has a picture been posted of a stud with the black nut for 4 the lug cars? As for ordering, are you waiting to see how many people are committed before we have a final price?
Posted by: '73-914kid Nov 23 2012, 06:22 PM
I will have a picture of what the black nuts look like by next week. The current price is $132 shipped for the black stud kit. It will keep going down if more people commit. That is already down from the original price. Once the group buy closes, the price will be frozen.
Posted by: lonewolfe Nov 24 2012, 12:09 AM
I will have a picture of what the black nuts look like by next week. The current price is $132 shipped for the black stud kit. It will keep going down if more people commit. That is already down from the original price. Once the group buy closes, the price will be frozen.
Ok, sounds good! And what's the latest price with the gold/silver nuts?
Posted by: '73-914kid Nov 25 2012, 01:20 PM
Current price for a 4-lug car is $95 shipped. See this thread:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=198416
Posted by: '73-914kid Nov 26 2012, 01:17 AM
Well, I picked up a kit today from Ryan to install on a car tomorrow evening. The kits look awesome. 
BTW, here's a picture of the black lug nuts. Like I said the quality and finish is second to none on this stuff. Definitely not your average oiled black oxide lug nut. 
Posted by: Dasnowman Nov 29 2012, 10:39 PM
Well, I picked up a kit today from Ryan to install on a car tomorrow evening. The kits look awesome.
BTW, here's a picture of the black lug nuts. Like I said the quality and finish is second to none on this stuff. Definitely not your average oiled black oxide lug nut.
Looks good put me down for a set! Whatever is cheapest for 4 bolt set up
Posted by: billh1963 Nov 30 2012, 09:01 AM
I said before that I would be interested in a kit or two. However, I need to see pictures of the kit installed on a car with 2.0 Fuchs
Posted by: clapeza Nov 30 2012, 09:46 AM
I said before that I would be interested in a kit or two. However, I need to see pictures of the kit installed on a car with 2.0 Fuchs
I'll be in for a set, too, once we see how the finished product looks installed.
Posted by: Vacca Rabite Nov 30 2012, 10:04 AM
Not really how a GB works, folks.
we get a good deal through placing a big order. Bigger the order, the lower the price drops.
If you wait for the GB to end and people to start posting pics of the finished product, you will either have to start a new GB, or buy at full price.
Sometimes the wholesaler will allow group prices after the buy is finished, but its not the rule and should not be expected.
I understand wanting to see how it looks before its done, but to do that you either need to find pictures of existing cars with studs or accept that you won't get the group buy pricing.
I can tell you that studs are WAY better then lug bolts, and everyone should do this for pure functionality.
Zach
Posted by: '73-914kid Nov 30 2012, 11:21 AM
I dont have direct access to a car with 2.0L fuchs, so a picture will be tough, however one thing that i have noticed after doing some math, is that these will probably stick out a fair amount past wheels, based on the length of the stud.
Will these look good on a modified car? Yes
However they might stick out a bit for some peoples taste on a bone stock 914.
Posted by: falconfp2001 Dec 1 2012, 02:53 AM
Bottom line for the hard to realize or CSOB people out there. This GB is a great deal. Lug Bolts are so much more harder to utilize than studs but if you would rather spend your time holding tires up with your feet while installing the Lug Bolts then don't buy this option. Also, if you would like your car to be "original" then do not respond to this GB.
In fact,don't even request a picture of the finished product because you have no idea of the value of this GB.
OK, this will be hard for some of you to get, if you are a cheap skate and wish to see and confirm the value of this GB, please do not waste anymore of our time by posting a request for pictures.
The people who really know the value of this GB have already committed to this buy and do not wish for you to waste their time. We only wish to quickly tabulate the total committed buyers so that we can figure our savings.
Yes, we are also CSOBs, but at least we know a great deal when we see one.
Posted by: lonewolfe Dec 1 2012, 04:23 AM
Bottom line for the hard to realize or CSOB people out there. This GB is a great deal. Lug Bolts are so much more harder to utilize than studs but if you would rather spend your time holding tires up with your feet while installing the Lug Bolts then don't buy this option. Also, if you would like your car to be "original" then do not respond to this GB.
In fact,don't even request a picture of the finished product because you have no idea of the value of this GB.
OK, this will be hard for some of you to get, if you are a cheap skate and wish to see and confirm the value of this GB, please do not waste anymore of our time by posting a request for pictures.
The people who really know the value of this GB have already committed to this buy and do not wish for you to waste their time. We only wish to quickly tabulate the total committed buyers so that we can figure our savings.
Yes, we are also CSOBs, but at least we know a great deal when we see one.
I'd like a set with the silver/gold nuts.
Posted by: eric9144 Dec 1 2012, 02:28 PM
falconfp2001 you may have missed the point in the request for pictures.
I think most members are curious how much thread would be exposed when installed on a 4 bolt wheel... Speaking for myself it has nothing to do with being a CSOB, I have more money in brakes than most people have in their enitre car, so it's not a money thing at all...
Posted by: Trekkor Dec 1 2012, 03:08 PM
http://www.034motorsport.com/chassis-components-audi-40008090urq-wheel-stud-and-nut-kit-m14x15-p-18227.html
for 16:
$56 for cone seat.
$63.20 for ball seat.
2, 2.5 and 3" lengths.
Race grade.
KT
Posted by: lonewolfe Dec 1 2012, 03:37 PM
http://www.034motorsport.com/chassis-components-audi-40008090urq-wheel-stud-and-nut-kit-m14x15-p-18227.html
for 16:
$56 for cone seat.
$63.20 for ball seat.
2, 2.5 and 3" lengths.
Race grade.
KT
What's the differrence between a ball seat &I a cone seat. I have stock 2Lin Fuchs on my car do which is the appropriate seat for my car?
Posted by: Trekkor Dec 1 2012, 03:59 PM
Ball seat fits VW/Porsche wheels.
Cone seat fits many aftermarket wheels.
The shape of the lug nut is designed to fit the shape of the seat in the wheel for proper engagement.
KT
Posted by: Trekkor Dec 1 2012, 04:02 PM
Ball seat:
Cone seat:
KT
Posted by: '73-914kid Dec 1 2012, 06:42 PM
Again, these bullet studs may stick out a bit far for some people on stock cars. Later on Ryan will be releasing kits that are shorter, and for more stock styled applications.
For those of you that are interested in installing a kit on your bone stock 914, we will be offering a kit specifically tailored to it, using close ended aluminum Porsche factory style nuts.
The studs being offered in this group buy are bullet nose, and not flat on the end, and are Black zinc. The bullet nose studs are more expensive, as is the black zinc process.
based upon the pricing that I've been seeing from Ryan lately in regards to a similar kit, 034 is 5 or so bucks more expensive than kits that will be offered for stock applications
And per the 034 site..:
"Take note, don't be fooled by companies offering Porsche Ball nuts, they have a much wider diameter seat that does not fit correctly in VW/Audi wheels and essentially damages the seating surface."
Their ball seat nuts are for the Audi Radius and diameter, not Porsche unfortunately.
Again, for those of you who are interested in a kit for a bone stock 914, that looks completely stock, please hold out on the group buy. Another deal will be coming for those of you who are not running any spacers, stock offset/bug offset wheels, and/or stock profile tires.
Please excuse the crappy cell phone pic:
These are on EMPI fake minilites with a bug offset, and I will say, they look a little out of place. This is on a completely stock car.
Posted by: Vacca Rabite Dec 2 2012, 09:07 AM
Huh. Thats really long....
Posted by: clapeza Dec 2 2012, 10:50 AM
OK, given this new information, take me off the "interested" list for the current GB.
I will be interested in a future GB for the "more stock styled applications" kit, however.
Posted by: ChrisNPDrider Dec 2 2012, 11:22 AM
Dudes
get the studs
get spacers
max your track width, adjust out more with more spacers, get the wheels right up against the fender
swap wheels easily at the track/AX/garage cause the studs rock!
Yes, they do stick out. I bought a different set of black oxide studs, 90mm, several years ago. My street wheels are cone seat, with big chrome lug nuts that cover the end of the stud completely (look at deep lugs at gorilla nuts).
Lots of options to customize your 914 project!
These studs in the GB are studly. Good length, style, coatings.
Trekkor's option is, as usual, the best low-price way to get out on the track safely with good gear, but won't get you "in" with the high-dollar track snob crowd. But who cares about them, we drive 914s! 
Posted by: Trekkor Dec 2 2012, 02:45 PM
The picture posted with the GB stud installed looks like the ball seat nut is too small for the wheel's seat.
You can see an exposed wear surface around the entire perimeter where previous contact had been made by a larger lug nut.
A lug nut that is too small will eventually pull through the wheel.
Most 914 owners with narrow body cars running stock style wheels do not need studs that are 2-3 times too long. In the picture, it looks like you could thread 3-4 more lugs onto that stud!
The stud only engages the hub 10-12mm's. Add the thickness of the wheel plus 10-12mm of nut engagement. There's the length you need.
034 is a race shop that campaigns race cars.
Pike's Peak and the 25 Hours of Thunderhill, this year, among many others. I have used their products and I will ask them to bring me a ball seat and cone seat lug to the race this weekend for me to examine.
KT
Posted by: '73-914kid Dec 7 2012, 12:36 PM
Thanks to everyone who commited to purchasing a kit in the group buy. The group buy is currently closed, and it is now time to send payment. So far Ryan has recieved 4 payments only.
The sooner everyone sends payment, the sooner the kits will get shipped out.
See the first post for payment instructions.
Thanks everyone!
Posted by: lonewolfe Dec 7 2012, 02:36 PM
I've not followed this thread in a while but checked back because of the end of the group buy. I also just saw how long the studs are on a stock wheel and those are way too long for stock 4 bolt Fuchs in my opinion. I'd like to hold off till you have the stud kits ready for stock cars as these long studs will look rediculous on my wheels. I regret not seeing these pictures earlier.
Posted by: billh1963 Dec 7 2012, 02:57 PM
In fact,don't even request a picture of the finished product because you have no idea of the value of this GB.
OK, this will be hard for some of you to get, if you are a cheap skate and wish to see and confirm the value of this GB, please do not waste anymore of our time by posting a request for pictures.
The people who really know the value of this GB have already committed to this buy and do not wish for you to waste their time. We only wish to quickly tabulate the total committed buyers so that we can figure our savings.
Yes, we are also CSOBs, but at least we know a great deal when we see one.
To say this post pisses me off would be an understatement. I've been accused of many things..but being cheap isn't one of them.
The fact of the matter is that there was some uncertainty about how the final product would look. Before I spend my money on something that may be ugly as hell, I want to see the finished product. We all know what an OEM product looks like; however, this is not OEM.
Would YOU plunk down money for a new product that was sight unseen in it's final application? I seriously doubt it. I can appreciate your enthusiasm for the GB and wanting it concluded quickly. And yes, there a lot of Cheap SOB's on this board. However, in this case you are off base.
Posted by: '73-914kid Dec 7 2012, 05:57 PM
I understand that these may not be everyone, however a lot of people commited, and ryan has recieved only 1 more payment as of today. Please, if you have commited, please send ryan your payment so we can get these kits shipped.
Posted by: '73-914kid Dec 8 2012, 04:53 PM
Here is the current list of who has paid, and kits shipped:
r3dplanet
zymurgist
Gary gartner
arg
mikehinton
Wingnut86
Por.kid
helios
I will update the list as people pay. These kits have already been shipped out as well. If your name is on the list, it means you have paid, and your kit has been shipped.
Thanks, Ethan
Posted by: wingnut86 Dec 8 2012, 06:31 PM
I know exactly what I needed, and trust this meets that need.
But, I back Bill, Lonewolf and others on the precaution they mention.
You probably would have pissed off fewer people if you just stated "not applicable for bone-stock or slightly spaced wheels on 914s"
If my response pisses someone off, we can take it up in private PM activity or keep it here for future enjoyment 
Posted by: wingnut86 Dec 8 2012, 06:34 PM
I know exactly what I needed, and trust this meets that need.
But, I back Bill, Lonewolf and others on the precaution they mention.
You probably would have pissed off fewer people if you just stated "not applicable for bone-stock or slightly spaced wheels on 914s"
If my response pisses someone off, we can take it up in private PM activity or keep it here for future enjoyment
Basically, Happy Holidays Ya'll
Posted by: r3dplanet Dec 8 2012, 08:48 PM
What, what? It doesn't fit stock vehicles? That would have been nice to know prior to signing up and buying. I suppose it's my fault for not carefully measuring first.
If anyone missed out on the group buy my set will be immediately for sale just as soon as they arrive.
-m.
Posted by: '73-914kid Dec 8 2012, 09:38 PM
Whoa whoa whoa... No one's saying these don't fit stock 914 wheels... These will absolutely fit. the nuts clamp down with the proper Porsche seat radius, and the studs screw in and lock down as they should. No issues of fitment on a stock car.
For some people's personal preference, they may stick out a fair bit on a stock 914, but this in no sense means that they "won't fit a stock 914".
Posted by: Trekkor Dec 9 2012, 07:57 PM
Whoa whoa whoa... No one's saying these don't fit stock 914 wheels...
If they are the one's like in your picture, I'm saying they are too small.
KT
Posted by: billh1963 Dec 9 2012, 08:53 PM
Whoa whoa whoa... No one's saying these don't fit stock 914 wheels... These will absolutely fit. the nuts clamp down with the proper Porsche seat radius, and the studs screw in and lock down as they should. No issues of fitment on a stock car.
For some people's personal preference, they may stick out a fair bit on a stock 914, but this in no sense means that they "won't fit a stock 914".
Ethan,
I appreciate your effort in putting this together. I'm not racing or auto crossing Like some of these guys so I prefer a stock appearance. Let me know when you put together a GB for a "stock" looking setup.
Thanks,
Bill
Posted by: '73-914kid Dec 12 2012, 12:51 AM
Bump for list update
Posted by: watsonrx13 Dec 12 2012, 05:03 PM
Check is in the mail... 
--- Rob
Posted by: '73-914kid Jan 3 2013, 11:34 AM
For those of you who purchased a kit, thank you. If youve installed the studs, please post of a pic of them on your car. Ryan is looking for cars to post up on his website with his kits installed.
Thanks everyone!
Ethan
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