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Posted by: 914GTSTI Nov 24 2012, 09:29 PM

So, first I saw this.



Than I did this.



The front would be easy!alot of work but not hard.

But the rear?

How much of the rear end of a 914 could be removed? (Sheet metal) I think a tube end frame could be added if it would help? The sale pannels would need to go. Maybe push out the doors and the rear fenders?

How about some input!!!

Posted by: scotty b Nov 24 2012, 09:34 PM

914's lines are wrong if you want an accurate replica. IMHO It would be easier to make a ful tub frame and a fiberglass body, stick a 3.0 engine in it, and maybe use some bolts from a 914


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Posted by: 914GTSTI Nov 24 2012, 09:40 PM

Not to hard to see a 914?

Posted by: Vacca Rabite Nov 24 2012, 09:42 PM

Tube frame a 914. Spend a on of money cutting fg body panels and you could make it.

I'd drive it. Will cost a lot to do, but what doesn't these days.
Start with a rusty tub and cut everything. Off but the vin. Go from there. Probably easier that way.

Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 24 2012, 09:46 PM

Nothing New
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-914-914-6-technical-forum/395856-projekt-908-front-end-finished-ull-luv-hate.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6l87Hgwb8k


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm11-IQfxCs

Posted by: 914GTSTI Nov 24 2012, 09:53 PM

Its not to far off?

Posted by: scotty b Nov 24 2012, 10:00 PM

someone want to overlay the two pics ? 908 on top of 914, match up the frint wheels


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Posted by: 914GTSTI Nov 24 2012, 10:07 PM

Ok, we cant move the driver forward but???
And Its not a flat 8.
I need to go to the shop and take a long look at the 914.

Posted by: 914GTSTI Nov 24 2012, 10:13 PM

I am not good with resizing! My bad!

Posted by: 914GTSTI Nov 24 2012, 10:20 PM

More like this?

Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 24 2012, 10:33 PM

I believ that is the short version hillclimb 908
I think this is the longer



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Posted by: 914GTSTI Nov 24 2012, 10:42 PM

Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 24 2012, 11:30 PM

90.6 inch wheelbase

Posted by: 914GTSTI Nov 25 2012, 05:46 PM

So I pulled some old parts and the parts car to see it a908-3/914 could be built.



Now that is some offset!!



Thats 225/50/15 with 8"x15" up front and 295/50/15 with 12"x15" in the rear.
Rear maybe to wide? Track would be 70" front and 80" rear.

Posted by: 914GTSTI Nov 26 2012, 08:04 PM

If I wanted to save the rear fenders where would you cut them out at ?



Here is a photo of the 295/50 on a 8"x15" rim with a 2" back space. The first photo was a 12"x15" with a 2" backspace. Thinking a 12"x15" with a 3 1/2" backspace is what I will try?



side by side.



And whats up with all the seam sealer?

Posted by: FourBlades Nov 26 2012, 08:41 PM

Nice project!

Ginther windshield.



John

Posted by: Eric_Shea Nov 26 2012, 09:19 PM

Someone already did it...

Posted by: 914GTSTI Nov 26 2012, 10:45 PM

Thanks Eric! Photos and links would help? And then their were TWO?

Posted by: Eric_Shea Nov 26 2012, 10:48 PM

I can't remember where to find it. Truth be told, I've blocked it out of my mind. Looked like ass to me.

Silver POS somewhere here or on Pelican if I recall.

Posted by: 914GTSTI Nov 26 2012, 11:18 PM

Thanks,I will go have a look.

Also I will try to not make you !

Posted by: 914GTSTI Nov 26 2012, 11:33 PM

This is what I found!



I will try to do better.

Posted by: Ductech Nov 27 2012, 03:03 AM

God the front end on that one looks miataish

Posted by: Dave_Darling Nov 27 2012, 09:35 AM

I think they may have used Miata sheet metal on the front? It's a LeMons car, so it may very well be a mish-mash of different pieces.

The silver one was more custom. There is a (sort of a) build thread on the Bird board. It's not to my taste, but someone put quite a bit of work into it.

--DD

Posted by: Eddie914 Nov 27 2012, 02:51 PM

I like the idea.


This is the one on the Bird Board:

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 27 2012, 03:11 PM

- Ditch the windshield and use a short windscreen.
- Ditch the hideous roll cage and use hoops behind the seats
- Ditch the wings and make the rear end more like in the picture below
- Get a Sheridan nose and be done with it

Posted by: 914GTSTI Nov 27 2012, 03:21 PM

I think the sliver one is,ok but. Its' its own look? The front is,to long? And I, could not leave the lights/hood. Pulles to much of the 914's into the look .

The door is the next problem?

Maybe that is the way I need to look at it? It will be its own look. Just more lean to the 908-3.

Posted by: Ductech Nov 27 2012, 03:59 PM

I think the best end result would be I trying to move the driver closer to the front wheels. Too long of a front end ruins it .02

Posted by: brant Nov 27 2012, 04:04 PM

barf....
ugly!


the 914 will never be a 908
buy a fiero and build a lambo

the beauty of the 908 is the driver close to the front axle and the way the body falls down toward the front of the car beginning at the front axle.

neither of those examples capture the important and beautiful traits of the 908
I think a 908 replica would be much better built on a tube frame and incorporating the beauty of the original.

Posted by: 914GTSTI Nov 28 2012, 12:14 PM

Has anyone found a source for 908-3 body panels?

Posted by: scotty b Nov 28 2012, 01:04 PM

Posted by: brant Nov 28 2012, 01:35 PM

I can't imagine there is a source...
there are probably 3 or 4 of those cars in the world, and no production source.

Posted by: URY914 Nov 28 2012, 02:47 PM

I know a shop that has the molds, but you don't have enough money.

Posted by: 914GTSTI Nov 28 2012, 03:08 PM

Would still like to know what the front would go for? A wide 914 would be $2200.00. in glass.

Posted by: brant Nov 28 2012, 03:52 PM

Paul what do you think the cost would be from a real mold.

(I'm guessing 10k)

Posted by: scotty b Nov 28 2012, 05:05 PM

easily.

Buy a bunch of solid pink insulation board, glue them together and cut it to your desired shape. Cover it with a thin layer of bondo, slick it up, paint it nice and smooth, cover that with mold release, lay down some glass, pull a buck, stiffen that up, pull a mold. Viola, you have a 908 body, easy as pie.

Posted by: 914GTSTI Nov 28 2012, 05:20 PM

That maybe the way I will need to go. Was hopeing their was a mold to use out their.

Maybe out of a factory mold ? $10,000?
Have a model in 1/18 scale ,guess I will need to work from that.

Posted by: URY914 Nov 28 2012, 06:40 PM

So you think an owner of an orignal factory mold it going to let you borrow it so you can pull your 908/914 wannabe out of it?

$10,000 for the front clip maybe.

Posted by: 914GTSTI Nov 28 2012, 06:49 PM

So,this person you know has a "Factory Mold" ? Or a copy of a OEM front clip he made a mold from?

Posted by: Eddie914 Nov 28 2012, 07:08 PM

How about a long wheel base 908?

http://www.gt40s.com/forum/wings-wheels-keels/19711-porsche-908-910-project.html

Posted by: 914GTSTI Nov 28 2012, 07:24 PM

Thanks for the lead. But the 908-3 is it for me.
Randy

Posted by: Series9 Nov 28 2012, 08:46 PM

.......or maybe we could stop trying to turn a 914 into another Porsche and just respect it for the PORSCHE IT IS.

So many of these cars have been hacked to pieces trying to make them look like something else. Are you not here because you're a 914 guy?

If you want a 908, then save up and buy one. Leave your poor, increasingly-rare 914 alone....please.

Posted by: 914GTSTI Nov 28 2012, 08:57 PM

Ok!

But your car is stock?

Posted by: Series9 Nov 29 2012, 07:38 AM

Not at all. Everyone knows that I modify the shit out of 914s. However, at the heart of every project I do is a 914, and I don't try to obfuscate its heritage.

In the end, it's obviously your decision to make. I'm merely pointing out that these cars are becoming more rare. As I get older, I find myself less inclined to do something totally radical with a still-viable chassis.

There are certainly some who think I'm screwing up cars that could be returned to totally stock /4 status. We all have our lines. Mechanically, I will only use Porsche/Audi/VW engines and parts. Why? That's just what feels right to me.

And aesthetically, I want my cars to look like 914s so the 911 guys will have no doubt from whom the spanking came.


Have fun with your project.

Posted by: Cohibra45 Nov 29 2012, 07:49 AM

Joe,

'obfuscate' and 'aesthetically'..........WOW, not only a great wrench, but great command of the English language!!! Read a lot as a kid???

Just pulling your leg!!!

Posted by: jpnovak Nov 30 2012, 12:28 PM

I know of a 914 based rebody here in TX. Fairly accurate. I am building the engine for it early next year.

It is not the short 908/3. But the longer 908/2. Like this.



I personally like the 908/3. What a car that must have been to drive in anger. So light. So nimble. So fast.

Posted by: 914GTSTI Nov 30 2012, 01:12 PM

Thanks for posting the photo,jpnovak. This makes me want to keep thinking about it.

Posted by: 914GTSTI Dec 3 2012, 08:11 PM

I have put the 2 914 back into storage and have goin back to work on my tube/908-3. Thanks for the input on my 914's. Randy

Posted by: sixnotfour Dec 3 2012, 09:08 PM

A 908 with a subaroo engine ??

Posted by: 914GTSTI Dec 3 2012, 10:51 PM

Yep. About the same power and a lot cheeper.

Posted by: carr914 Dec 4 2012, 07:49 AM

You lost me on that one

Posted by: FourBlades Dec 4 2012, 07:33 PM

Keep posting pictures of the build!

Is your tube chassis similar to the original 908 design?

I have a blueprint of a 906 with all the tubes.

It looks like it would be fun to build.

John

Posted by: Eric_Shea Dec 4 2012, 08:00 PM

OK... I'm lost. We went through 3 pages of ugly "Will a 914 make a cool 908?" pictures and questions and all along you had a tube frame Subie version in the works?

And this was an exercise in... ???

Why not just start out with; "Hey gang, here's a cool Subie powered 908/3 I'm building... follow along!"

Posted by: scotty b Dec 4 2012, 08:14 PM

Posted by: Woody Dec 4 2012, 08:46 PM

Posted by: balljoint Dec 4 2012, 08:54 PM

Because racecar.

Posted by: Woody Dec 4 2012, 08:56 PM

Posted by: brant Dec 4 2012, 08:59 PM

not really...
there will be no sanctioning bodies that will allow it to race.

garage art?

Posted by: carr914 Dec 4 2012, 10:18 PM

Posted by: 914GTSTI Dec 5 2012, 08:53 AM

Thanks Fourblader,you can see the work over on LocostUSA.com under 908-3 Sti.

As for the trying to use the 914. It was just another way to look at.

And to the point of "there will be no sanctioning bodies that will allow it to race."
N.A.S.A. have looked over the plans and have said they will find a class for the car. Safety inspection by S.C.C.A. chassie is (per the plans) good to go but motor is to big= no class.

Eric-shea, = not cool.

Posted by: balljoint Dec 5 2012, 09:04 AM

Posted by: MDG Dec 5 2012, 09:10 AM

Oh yeah . . .

Funny? Absolutely.
Brake Master to the stars? Definitive.
All 'round great guy?

Cool?

Posted by: Eric_Shea Dec 5 2012, 09:54 AM

Posted by: r_towle Dec 5 2012, 11:45 AM

54 posts and you walk into the forum and mislead people, look for attention and then call Eric not cool.

You will fit in just fine.

Have you found the sandbox forum here....
That is the best place for insults.

rich

Posted by: Woody Dec 5 2012, 08:10 PM

Posted by: 914GTSTI Dec 5 2012, 10:44 PM

Started with.
"Something got me thinking tonight?, Could a 908-3 body kit be made for a 914??"

Then.
".......or maybe we could stop trying to turn a 914 into another Porsche and just respect it for the PORSCHE IT IS."

So I gave up on the 914 donor. Went back to a old project.

And.

"54 posts and you walk into the forum and mislead people, look for attention and then call Eric not cool."

So,whats up with the "mislead people" ?

I have been trying to work out a 908-3 without spending $1.4 Mil.

http://blog.jameslist.com/2011/1970-targa-florio-porsche-9083/

"Why not just start out with; "Hey gang, here's a cool Subie powered 908/3 I'm building... follow along!" "

Because I felt that 914 mite be a good donor and I was not working on the tube chassis at that time.

I am sorry if I upset (Eric) but it was not cool.
For now I will stay with the tube 908-3 but here is a photo of the motor for one of my 914's. Think I built it up in 2007+-? for the 914GTSti.

Posted by: carr914 Dec 6 2012, 01:41 PM

Posted by: bulitt Dec 6 2012, 05:59 PM

PMB =

Posted by: 914GTSTI Dec 12 2012, 06:42 PM

Found this in my way back machine. See the parts mite make a 908-3 want-to-be?





Well the seats,motor and steering rack are from a 914?

Posted by: 914GTSTI Nov 13 2018, 10:54 PM

My old dead idea ? But still looking at it. Maybe with a EZ30 ? Just some ideas,for now.



Would need to cover over the old engine bay but this mite work ?



And from the side ?



And yes,I turned the seat around. So I could go to McDonnell.

Posted by: jmitro Nov 13 2018, 11:19 PM

go for it. don't worry about what the purists say. I love to see cool projects

Posted by: porschetub Nov 13 2018, 11:22 PM

Oh dear...

Posted by: 914GTSTI Nov 13 2018, 11:31 PM

I know,Jm.

Can't let them in my head. Like their was room . LOL

I will just keep working on the idea. I will not be using any of the old chassis .Have found some drawings of the 908-3 and will work from their.

Posted by: raynekat Nov 13 2018, 11:43 PM

I would love to have a "budget" 908-3.
One of my favorite all time Porsche racers.
Haven't figured how I would do it though.
Love your imagination....

I want one like this with a "built" six in it.
Same color scheme.

Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 14 2018, 03:09 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adocRB6Ntbs

Posted by: 914GTSTI Nov 14 2018, 10:47 AM

Thanks for the link. Making a 12 cyl. is not on my to-do list. But good for him ! The mold is going to almost kill me.

Posted by: Dave_Darling Nov 14 2018, 03:27 PM

That "917" car has been in that state for at least the last five years. Zero progress as far as I can tell.

--DD

Posted by: gereed75 Nov 14 2018, 11:22 PM

Gotta admire the guys dream. He has given it his all!

Posted by: Larmo63 Nov 14 2018, 11:48 PM

One of his final comments is:

"It looks like a 917 to me...."

Posted by: 914GTSTI Nov 15 2018, 12:09 AM

Dream,yes that me and my mind.

But even if is not a "Real" 908-3, it still would be fun to go to a "car's and coffee" or a "car show" with something like this ? I will ( if I finish it ) do some track day's with it also.

Don't let people take your dream's from you. Very few of us will have the responsibility of owning a "ORIGINAL" . So,if you stay at it and work hard,you can do it !Then it will be "your original " I'm going to be 68 soon and this building of things keeps me going.

My many drive, is to make it a not- perfect remembrance of a 908-3. That's all.

P.S. Going to have 3 914's for sale and all the parts. Have titles to all but 2 are just parts. I will post them with a list. Time to move on from the 914GTSTI DREAM.

MOD's If this info needs to be moved let me know ?

Randy

Posted by: simpo Nov 10 2019, 03:03 PM

Hi I just found this page today and this project. If anyone interested in a 908/3 replica body, look on my Google Drive at my project pictures.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kLMlYwiK_JGk8porPPWgUHt582FLmLoo

The CAD file has every body panels in different groups, and each of these groups have sections so to fit in a CNC router setup to mill.

I'm currently looking for great pictures of 908/3 frame to replicate it in CAD and match the 908/3 body. Then its go time.

Take care,
Simon

Posted by: 914werke Nov 10 2019, 03:36 PM

https://www.giocars.com/gio/inventory/79ac6bd0-44f5-11e9-9e19-d70a7d602045

Posted by: Unobtanium-inc Nov 10 2019, 03:55 PM

Randy,
I think you will find that there are many on this board with little if any imagination when it comes to building a car, especially with a 914.
Remember, if it's your dream, than it is your dream, it doesn't have to make sense to everyone. Dr. Porsche and his son Ferry could have gotten themselves hired by one of the bigger car companies like Mercedes-Benz, but they had a dream, and we are all better off because of their pursuit of that dream.




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