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Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 27 2012, 05:33 PM
[attachmentid=348311]Chop Cut Reweld,
facotry mahle 5.5
mahles 6.5
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Posted by: KaptKaos Nov 27 2012, 05:57 PM
You cut gas burners? Careful welding them. They're magnesium.
Posted by: messix Nov 27 2012, 08:09 PM
You cut gas burners? Careful welding them. They're magnesium.
he just might know a thing or two on how to handle magnesium up here in the land on aero space parts and tool manufacturing.....
Posted by: KaptKaos Nov 27 2012, 08:30 PM
Yeah, but better safe than sorry. And I have no idea who he is, or what skills he has. So would you expect me to assume otherwise??
Posted by: messix Nov 27 2012, 08:35 PM
Yeah, but better safe than sorry. And I have no idea who he is, or what skills he has. So would you expect me to assume otherwise??
where have you been???
Jeff has "skills" with metal and porsche parts
Posted by: KaptKaos Nov 27 2012, 08:49 PM
Yeah, but better safe than sorry. And I have no idea who he is, or what skills he has. So would you expect me to assume otherwise??
where have you been???
Jeff has "skills" with metal and porsche parts
Yeah - well, i can't remember all of the stuff that goes on 'round here.
Anyways, them gas burners is hard to come by. Not sure I would have the balls to cut them.
Posted by: messix Nov 27 2012, 08:51 PM
Yeah, but better safe than sorry. And I have no idea who he is, or what skills he has. So would you expect me to assume otherwise??
where have you been???
Jeff has "skills" with metal and porsche parts
Yeah - well, i can't remember all of the stuff that goes on 'round here.
Anyways, them gas burners is hard to come by. Not sure I would have the balls to cut them.
he's got a garage full of them
Posted by: audio_file Nov 27 2012, 09:02 PM
Looks good Jeff 
, I've still gotta get you to do this(ish) to my Enkeis!!
Posted by: SirAndy Nov 27 2012, 09:08 PM
Posted by: JmuRiz Nov 27 2012, 09:29 PM
If you're serious, it's pretty cool...thank goodness they shouldn't fit with my boxster brakes, fheww.
BTW still trying to convince my wife a set would look good on my SC
Posted by: rdauenhauer Nov 27 2012, 09:30 PM
Keep up fella's!
1st example is the real deal.
2nd example is the repro wheel cut & widened.
Very nice
Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 28 2012, 12:11 AM
$99 clip1 aluminum. left wheel pieces from Bovy 4lug mahles .
So the outer lip is real mahle aluminum.
I have welded my share of mag cases and transmissiom housing..
I wouldnt weld a magnesium wheel.
I did sleep at a Holiday Inn, Once. And Mike Wills showed me his really bitchin tool kit Once.
Posted by: aircooledtechguy Nov 28 2012, 12:32 AM
I did sleep at a Holiday Inn, Once. And Mike Wills should me his really bitchin tool kit Once.
Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 30 2012, 04:23 PM
Very Close 
after and before cip1 repops
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Posted by: Rand Nov 30 2012, 04:28 PM
Troy has a fascination with balls. But he is right......... We aren't talking shit here, these are the real deal.
Nice work.
Posted by: rdauenhauer Nov 30 2012, 05:03 PM
I think I wants some...! 
Wheels that is not Ball's 
Posted by: messix Nov 30 2012, 05:34 PM
this should be Woodys theme song!
You shake my nerves and you rattle my brain
Too much love drives a man insane
You broke my will, oh what a thrill
Goodness gracious great balls of fire
Posted by: rhodyguy Nov 30 2012, 07:23 PM
if you look through hotvws magazine ads at safeway there are TONS of swell repros available these day. 5 lug, 4 lug, old school. priced right. exspensive OEM units and a refinish or a new repros and an all new suspension?
jeff, do you have to heat treat the wheels after the sectioning and weld up?
k
Posted by: Tom Nov 30 2012, 07:28 PM
Them rain city rednecks got some serious skills!! Nice work Jeff!! 
Tom
Posted by: sixnotfour Dec 1 2012, 03:05 AM
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Posted by: Cairo94507 Dec 1 2012, 08:56 AM
So is that wheel a widened replica, a widened original wheel or a replica that can be ordered in the extra wide width? Just trying to plan for the future as I know I want a set of gas burners for my six but it would be nice to get something a little wider than the stock 5.5" wheel as my 2nd set of wheels for the car. I already have a number matching set of deep sixes from '71 that may be going to Harvey after the first of the year
Posted by: sixnotfour Dec 1 2012, 09:04 AM
They are the Repops, I cut and widened 1 inch to 6.5.
Posted by: KaptKaos Dec 1 2012, 10:25 AM
Wow! 
How much does the widened wheel weigh?
Posted by: sixnotfour Dec 1 2012, 12:54 PM
Way Too Much.....
Posted by: sixnotfour Dec 1 2012, 12:56 PM
But Looks Fabulous
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Posted by: rhodyguy Dec 1 2012, 02:27 PM
powder coat or paint? wurth?
k
Posted by: Cairo94507 Dec 1 2012, 04:34 PM
Does look very nice. Do you have a weight? What did it or would it cost to have a set of reproductions widened?
Posted by: sixnotfour Dec 1 2012, 06:33 PM
The wheels are 89.95 at cip1 VW parts, they weigh in at 18lbs.
Lets see ??
sand blast
doner backs
machining for match
welding
maching
hand work corners
sand blast agian
paint or powder coat
about $400 labour each for these.
5 lug Fuchs about half...way easier.
Not a Quote, just a guesstimate. I did them for myself.
The tire in the pics is a 205/55x15 ES 100
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Posted by: sixnotfour Dec 1 2012, 07:14 PM
they do 7x17 fuchs for cheep, Probably a matter of tmie for this size too..REMEBER You Saw it here first....
Posted by: rgalla9146 Dec 1 2012, 07:54 PM
they do 7x17 fuchs for cheep, Probably a matter of tmie for this size too..REMEBER You Saw it here first....
The widened repro is better looking than the original.
What is the donor/source of the aluminum outer rim ?
Posted by: GeorgeRud Dec 1 2012, 08:01 PM
Great looking wheels! Your talents are even more impressive in making these.
Are they painted or powder coated? What is the color?
Posted by: sixnotfour Dec 1 2012, 10:03 PM
The donor for these was the rim pieces I cut from making jon bovy's 4 lug mahles using prmade DOT approved barrels, The paint is duplicolor silver wheel piant.
I was anxious to get one on a 914.
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Posted by: Eric_Shea Dec 2 2012, 12:07 AM
Does it rain much there? 
Posted by: sixnotfour Dec 2 2012, 07:30 AM
It doesnt stop untill july 7th
Posted by: Cairo94507 Dec 2 2012, 08:18 AM
Just a beautiful wheel on the 914. Thanks for sharing.
Posted by: Eric_Shea Dec 2 2012, 02:56 PM
Make some 9's... 
Posted by: sixnotfour Dec 2 2012, 03:15 PM
No ,,I have the 9's I made for you that I am stuck with..
Posted by: Eric_Shea Dec 2 2012, 09:02 PM
What... Ever...
Posted by: sixnotfour Dec 2 2012, 09:13 PM
Bright Like a Diamond
Posted by: sixnotfour Dec 22 2012, 06:31 PM
I hate Mahles at the moment, way to much work...Next to pick a color I dont really want the bright silver like the first one...
3+1 =4......do I need I a spare ?? 
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Posted by: messix Dec 22 2012, 08:57 PM
yes!!
3" wide with a skinny spare temptire on it!
super light
Posted by: sixnotfour Dec 28 2012, 11:09 PM
color of choice
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Posted by: championgt1 Dec 28 2012, 11:10 PM
Nice!
Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 9 2013, 11:21 PM
this from that
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Posted by: rhodyguy Jan 10 2013, 10:06 AM
purdy...will yours be used with lug bolts or studded hubs and nuts? i was thumbing thru HOTVW the other day and looked at the CIP1 ad. do you know if the backspacing for the 15x5.5 5 lug fuch repros is about the same as OEM? i have the 911 front suspension i picked up at walker's. conv on the cheap with the CIP1 repros. well, sort of on the cheap.
edit: looked it up. 4.5" bs and $79.95 per+shp. 15x5.5, black with polished spokes. that's about the same fitment as 4 lug oem fuch wheels.
k
Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 12 2013, 08:18 PM
quick look on irish green. 
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Posted by: JRust Jan 12 2013, 08:58 PM
Love the work on the wheel & making it wider. I wouldn't say I am a fan of that color with your Irish Green. I'd like it in closer tot he stock silver. Or posible black with some polished or silver lips. Kick ass wheel either way
Posted by: Cairo94507 Jan 12 2013, 09:49 PM
Yeah, with the Irish Green that color is too dark (IMHO) and the polished center cap does not go well. Huge fan of the wheels though! I know I will have to have a set of gas burners for my Six at some point when it is done. Gas Burners are possibly the best looking wheel you can put on a Six.
Posted by: Gint Jan 13 2013, 12:09 AM
It would look a lot nicer if that tire was clean. 
Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 13 2013, 12:18 AM
its cold
Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 13 2013, 12:19 AM
its cold I agree its a quicky..
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Posted by: rick 918-S Jan 13 2013, 10:01 AM
It would look a lot nicer if that tire was clean.
And on the right side of the car.
Really, very nice work!
Posted by: scotty b Jan 15 2013, 01:09 PM
Now that you've done this. What's your opinion on widening and changing the backspacing to fit under and fill out GT flares ?
Posted by: Jasfsmith Jan 15 2013, 01:23 PM
Interesting. I posted a message (should have read them all first) and attempted to delete it. Is there no way for the author to delete their message?
Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 15 2013, 02:51 PM
nope your stuck in this thread.
Scotty the back spacing is good just would need to add wider lips to the face, these are alot of work though , the weld ends up between the spokes, I machined them out and then a bunch of blending.
Posted by: ConeDodger Jan 17 2013, 09:25 AM
I found this picture of the back of Jeff's garage in Paul and TC's thread in the Sandbox... Jeff has the world's supply of Gas Burners all crated up! 
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Posted by: Jasfsmith Jan 17 2013, 09:55 AM
Scotty the back spacing is good just would need to add wider lips to the face, these are alot of work though , the weld ends up between the spokes, I machined them out and then a bunch of blending.
Would it be reaonable cost wise, to add to the back side and use a spacer with extended studs?
Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 17 2013, 11:12 AM
Adding to the inside is pretty simple, These Guys are close to you and have been doing it quite a while.
http://www.weldcraftwheels.com/
Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 19 2013, 03:00 PM
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Posted by: Cairo94507 Jan 20 2013, 09:21 AM
That is just a perfect wheel.
Posted by: Gint Jan 20 2013, 12:15 PM
Looks better with silver nuts doesn't it. When does production start?
Posted by: Eric_Shea Jan 20 2013, 01:58 PM
Looks better with silver nuts doesn't it. When does production start?
Needs red center caps too!
Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 20 2013, 05:23 PM
Mahle BLUE
Gint, I will make R offset 7's no problem.
BTW This is the RRC2013 914 project..
Posted by: sixnotfour Apr 16 2014, 09:42 PM
Mahle BLUE
Gint, I will make R offset 7's no problem.
BTW This is the RRC2013 914 project..
2014
Posted by: JmuRiz Apr 17 2014, 07:53 AM
Too bad I'm the only one in my family that likes gasburners...I'd love a set for the 914 and for the 356.
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