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Posted by: qa1142 Nov 7 2004, 03:18 PM

Are stock bushings still available?

Are the street bushings sqweaky too?

Grove and grease? time to start buying this stuff.

Posted by: Brad Roberts Nov 7 2004, 03:20 PM

The street bushings will squeak, just not as fast as the race bushings. I do use a dremel and cut a spiral path down the center of the bushings so they will retain *some* grease during assembly.


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Posted by: vsg914 Nov 7 2004, 03:23 PM

Stock bushings are available if you purchase the entire trailing arm.

Posted by: Brett W Nov 7 2004, 07:13 PM

Gotcha covered Will. Already grooved and drilled for grease fittings.

Posted by: Lawrence Nov 7 2004, 07:18 PM

I looked at the Elephant poly/bronze units this afternoon... they look nice. Pre-grooved and already fitted with grease fittings.

they have a website... http://www.elephantracing.com/

-Rusty

Posted by: Chuck Moreland Nov 7 2004, 09:54 PM

The PolyBronze products have been very popular for both street and track applications. No squeaks ever, and the ride quality is excellent.

To get new factory rubber bushings you need to buy new control arms, at a hefty price.

Posted by: monkeywrench Nov 7 2004, 11:20 PM

How do the elephant bushings compare with muller's roller bushings? Has anyone felt both? How much better are they than the regular ones?

Give your testamonial

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 7 2004, 11:25 PM

if you can fork out the $$$, Mueller's rollerbearings are the way to go ...

which reminds me, i still have to pick up my set ... hi mike!
Andy

Posted by: Brad Roberts Nov 7 2004, 11:50 PM

I like this Monkey wrench guy...LOL Compare the two products RIGHT in front of the people who make them... ha ha

Honestly,

I have not ridden in a car with Chucks parts. I have built/ridden in lots of cars with the roller bearings...


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Posted by: Chuck Moreland Nov 8 2004, 01:26 AM

I consider Mike a friend and I'm not here to beat up on his products. But any prospective buyer should be aware of the pros/cons of the available bearing and bushing technologies and their suitability to automotive suspensions. Bushings require a good bit of labor to install, so you don't want to do this twice having made a poor product decision. Arm yourself with the facts and make an informed decision.

To that end I've written several papers addressing roller bearings, polyurethane bushings, and rubber bushings as used in auto suspensions. You can find them here:

http://www.elephantracing.com/techtopic/rollerbearings.htm
http://www.elephantracing.com/techtopic/polyurethanefriction.htm
http://www.elephantracing.com/techtopic/suspensiondeformation.htm

Check them out, draw your own conclusions. I felt there was a need for another solution, hence the development of Polybronze bearings.

Posted by: McMark Nov 8 2004, 02:55 AM

If the biggest detractor from roller bearings is wear then the appropriate question is how long does that take? If it's 100 years, then what's the point? Alignment can be an issue, but again, what's the tolerance? Just practicing what I learned in my GED Critical Thinking course in college.

Posted by: monkeywrench Nov 8 2004, 09:26 PM

Yeah this is why the fourm is great.

I love the cult of the aftermarket parts.

Doing the bushings is a chore. So to use parts that work well and last is important to me.

Iam just glad that there are people out there building and designing ways to improve our ride.