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Posted by: wndsnd Dec 31 2012, 12:37 PM
After doing business over a year with members and vendors listed in the Classifieds, and having nothing but good experience with all, and getting my car restored with everyone's help from this and other forums with great fun, I think I have a problem.
There is a member that has been posting in the Classifieds of all the 914 forums, almost daily, with sometimes many posts a day. This member is out of PA.
He responded to my post WTB a running engine with a 1.7. I was in his area on a business trip and called to take a look. We shood hands. We made a deal and I paid him with a check in full. That was before Thanksgiving. The deal was to deliver to my door in MA.
To date, no engine, but many excuses. Now I realize we are dealing with a holiday period. But, I have heard so many stories, and also have had more requests for money for aditional parts I was interested in. I have taken many days off waiting for this engine to arrive on dates scheduled. Yesterday it was to be here by noon, at 5:00 pm I called and was told his driver was 1-2 hours out. Never arrived. Now this guy has gone underground on me.
Before I take this to the next level, I am looking to see if it's just a bad deal for him promising delivery he can't make. OR, if others are getting duped. Please PM me.
Thanks.
BTW, if this is a legitimate guy that thinks he made a bad deal, I would think he would just man up and pay a shipper to get it done.
I gave him $500.00, of which $150 was to pay for getting it to me for a (trusting this) running 1.7.
Posted by: billh1963 Dec 31 2012, 12:54 PM
I hope this works out for you. If the seller doesn't come through quickly, please let us know!
Posted by: SirAndy Dec 31 2012, 12:56 PM
How would anyone be able to answer that question for you if you don't tell us his name?
Posted by: wndsnd Dec 31 2012, 01:06 PM
How would anyone be able to answer that question for you if you don't tell us his name?
I will expose him, but I was hoping that there still might be some underlieing problem that I don't know about.
I did give you hints (PA, Multiple Posts, Running 1.7)
But I am trying to take this one step at a time, that is why I requested PM's
Posted by: Black22 Dec 31 2012, 01:16 PM
As much as I want a part, I look to see the post count and Member status. I know who it is you're talking about and I personally would have had reservations about handing over payment in advance to a 0 post "Lurker".
Hope you get the engine soon. 
Posted by: wndsnd Dec 31 2012, 01:23 PM
As much as I want a part, I look to see the post count and Member status. I know who it is you're talking about and I personally would have had reservations about handing over payment in advance to a 0 post "Lurker".
Hope you get the engine soon.
Well you are right. Lesson Learned, however I did go to his shop in person, looked at the engine, shook hands with him, and saw all the parts he was listing and selling along with multiple parts cars. He seems like a good guy. I am hoping that he will stop disrespecting me and get this deal done, or return the money.
If he is scamming, there will be others that will reach out to me to help make my case, or he will complete this deal.
Posted by: Cracker Dec 31 2012, 01:46 PM
Based upon what you reported I'd simply leave a voicemail. You have 3 days to do one of two things; 1) deliver the engine, or 2) Fedex me a check for the full refund. If not, a police report will be filed for theft/fraud. You will press charges. If he does neither - follow through with your options.
Please, please, please tell us you at least filled out a simple Bill of Sale?!?!?!?!?!
"MR. NICE GUY" IS LONG OVER!
Posted by: SirAndy Dec 31 2012, 01:46 PM
I did give you hints (PA, Multiple Posts, Running 1.7)
I never understood the logic of making a public post warning about someone but then not mentioning a name.
Hints? Really? What is this, some sort of game show? Kindergarten?
I'd rather have the name out in the open. That way the guy has a chance to defend himself and everyone else has a chance to make up their mind.
Put everything on the table and be prepared for the consequences, good or bad.
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Posted by: wndsnd Dec 31 2012, 01:58 PM
I did give you hints (PA, Multiple Posts, Running 1.7)
I never understood the logic of making a public post warning about someone but then not mentioning a name.
Hints? Really? What is this, some sort of game show? Kindergarten?
I'd rather have the name out in the open. That way the guy has a chance to defend himself and everyone else has a chance to make up their mind.
Put everything on the table and be prepared for the consequences, good or bad.
Sorry Sir Andy but I disagree with you.
I made a deal in good faith. Before I expose him on Three Boards, I wanted to see if there might be some commonality to his business, or if not, maybe a good reason he is now underground for me and has my money. I know that this parts business is not easy. The few times I have had to ship out things and cores, it was a PITA for me. The legitimate parts guys provide a valuable and much needed service, and I do have respect for their hard work and support. I am not playing games I assure you. However, I do not want to cause any person or business any unwarranted damage.
I think a request for PM's was reasonable on my part. Let's see who if any steps out.
Posted by: carr914 Dec 31 2012, 02:22 PM
Don't know the guy, but I would Never buy anything from someone if they have less than 25 Posts (on any Forum! - heck on some Forums you are not allowed to sell if you don't have 30)
Posted by: wndsnd Dec 31 2012, 02:27 PM
Don't know the guy, but I would Never buy anything from someone if they have less than 25 Posts (on any Forum! - heck on some Forums you are not allowed to sell if you don't have 30)
Sadly you are probably right. He surfaced on three boards around mid-October. Again, I did meet him in person. I wasn't completely blind. Stupid maybe....
Posted by: Scarlet75 Dec 31 2012, 02:38 PM
I will call the name out for you running914 there now everyone knows. And now he can answer or not his choice. It maybe just a simple misunderstanding. Members do have a right to know so as not to become victims. I want to know who it was because later down the road I made need a part and I will avoid that person.
Posted by: SirAndy Dec 31 2012, 02:53 PM
No problem with that ...
No offense, but to me this post looks like you're trying to build public opinion to support your side without giving the guy a chance to tell his side of the story.
You already took this to the public (no turning back now) but in a very one-sided manner.
My point still stands:
Put everything on the table and be prepared for the consequences, good or bad.
Posted by: two-strokejohn Dec 31 2012, 03:01 PM
I'm not going to defend the guy, I've been burned by a few people before too. But, I have purchased a few small items from this guy, and he did deliver on time, and the parts were as described. Please give him a chance to resolve this matter quickly. Lord knows, we all need good spare parts for our cars. Just my opinion.
Posted by: wndsnd Dec 31 2012, 03:06 PM
No problem with that ...
No offense, but to me this post looks like you're trying to build public opinion to support your side without giving the guy a chance to tell his side of the story.
You already took this to the public (no turning back now) but in a very one-sided manner.
My point still stands:
Put everything on the table and be prepared for the consequences, good or bad.
Well as I started the post, not the post I wanted to make. I was hoping that maybe that a little squeak would get his attention. Since he is already outed, I am talking about RUNNING914 or Danny Hunter of Easton, PA. I don't want anyone to make the wrong association. And you are right. I am one sided, as expected, giving all opportunities, however out the money, out the engine, and not being communicated with.
Posted by: JawjaPorsche Dec 31 2012, 03:08 PM
This is a shame because 99.9% of people on this forum are great people to deal with.
Posted by: Cracker Dec 31 2012, 03:17 PM
That is good to hear but when a fella supposedly doesn't make good on multiple appointments (with a buyer who has taken off work for him) and says he'll be there in 3 hours (and then goes quiet) but never shows is the equivalent to that of a thief/scum. Just calling it the way I see it.
Of course, this is assuming the OP is sharing the truth, which seems to be the case.
I'm not going to defend the guy, I've been burned by a few people before too. But, I have purchased a few small items from this guy, and he did deliver on time, and the parts were as described. Please give him a chance to resolve this matter quickly. Lord knows, we all need good spare parts for our cars. Just my opinion.
Posted by: wndsnd Dec 31 2012, 03:20 PM
I'm not going to defend the guy, I've been burned by a few people before too. But, I have purchased a few small items from this guy, and he did deliver on time, and the parts were as described. Please give him a chance to resolve this matter quickly. Lord knows, we all need good spare parts for our cars. Just my opinion.
Well that is good news. Quickly is good. Hasn't beent that way and I have had many excuses, and now no communication. I think it is a delivery problem.
He was to have a guy deliver, then problems with the guy, then he was taking Sunday off to deliver himself, leave by 6:00 am be there by noon. No Show, No Call.
I found him at home at 5:00. He sent a guy after all. He's 1-2 hours out, No Show, No Call. Sent Emails last night. No response. No contact all day. Giving all benefits of doubt, but beginning to think the worst. Thats why I said if delivery is a problem, man up and just send by truck, but at least start telling the truth. Not sending me emails looking for more money upfront for more parts when I can't get whats owed.
Here is what I am dealing with"
From: Danny hunter [mailto:running914@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 3:27 PM
To: jbnb@comcast.net
Subject: RE: running 1.7
Hello, John,Here are a few picts of your parts , muffler $50.00, air box excellent condition $40.00, heater boxes $35.00, and auxillary light mounts, $20.00, John the sail trim is not cheap i have a guy who has them in excellent condition for $ 75.00, Its an apearence part, I sell ones that are not perfect for 50.00 and they sell like hot cakes, This is the last set i have,and from what i am finding out, They will not exist much longer, The price of a good set in the near future will be in the hundreds of dollars, I attached a pict of the ones iI will remove for you, The total cost is 220.00, I have the motor crated and in my freinds truck, He will be leaving reading pa, thursday morning, At 8:00, according to gps he shouls arrive around 1:00, is that good for you, i want to ask you a favor, I spent hundreds of dollars in the shipping end of my buisness, Could i trouble you to send me they part money western union today, I need to pay for The sail trim,blower box and heater boxes, They are not mine, The guy has other people wanting these parts, You can deduct the cost oif western union bill from the total cost of 220.00, You can do western union on line, They will give you a code number, You give that to me and i can go pick up the money, I will then go and take the sail trim off today, Today is really the only time I have to take a ride,my information is Danny Hunter Easton pennsylvania 18042, i will be giving you a call in about a half hour, John i dont like to have to ask this but I really have no choice, I have a few thousnad dopllars out in parts deliveries, Thank you in advance Danny
These parts were discussed, not ordered. He took real offense when I told him that common sense told me not t send him any more money until the engine was delivered. BTW, That guy never obviously showed up, no calls, me taking time, etc.
Just sayin.......
Posted by: wndsnd Dec 31 2012, 03:24 PM
This is a shame because 99.9% of people on this forum are great people to deal with.
Absolutely, I have already stated that. And Danny might well be ok, but he is now not communicating.
Posted by: gandalf_025 Dec 31 2012, 03:32 PM
OK... I'll go on record saying the Original Poster is a stand up guy..
I met him on this forum and my wife and I have gone to concerts, car events and even sailing with him and his wife..
He is the last person I could ever see calling someone out unless
he had a legitimate issue.
His honesty is beyond question in my book.
Posted by: billh1963 Dec 31 2012, 04:05 PM
.....i want to ask you a favor, I spent hundreds of dollars in the shipping end of my buisness, Could i trouble you to send me they part money western union today, I need to pay for The sail trim,blower box and heater boxes, They are not mine, The guy has other people wanting these parts, You can deduct the cost oif western union bill from the total cost of 220.00, You can do western union on line, They will give you a code number, You give that to me and i can go pick up the money, I will then go and take the sail trim off today,
Ding..Ding..Ding...Danger Will Robinson!
Holy Crap..Western Union...
Posted by: wingnut86 Dec 31 2012, 04:16 PM
I had recently considered doing business with Danny (real name?), but declined when he wouldn't accept PayPal. I just don't do 1st dates without protection 
I noticed later he was inundating numerous sites with parts.
I asked him to update the vin database on 914World with his cars so we could track their end-of-life, so to speak.
He refused saying he didn't have enough time with all the shipments he was trying to get out.
He offered to send me 4 green top injectors for my review, but I declined again - just REAL odd.
I hope he comes to the board to establish his end, make it right and then resign quietly...
Life does happen, I among many know this, but not responding or doing so with negativity when someone has spent cold hard cash with you is unforgivable in my book.
Wingnut86
Aka, Dave B.
Posted by: wndsnd Dec 31 2012, 04:46 PM
That's what my wife is telling me, among other things
She can't be right can she? 
Posted by: Bob L. Dec 31 2012, 04:52 PM
He took PayPal from me!
I recently purchased a thermostat from him. It went very well. Aside from a small bracket which he forgot to send, but never charged me for, either. All in all, no complaints.
[edit] I confused this "vendor" with another. He did NOT take Paypal. Sorry for the confusion.
Posted by: wndsnd Dec 31 2012, 04:56 PM
He took PayPal from me!I recently purchased a thermostat from him. It went very well. Aside from a small bracket which he forgot to send, but never charged me for, either. All in all, no complaints.
That's odd, he had a recent rant in the classifieds about paypal, he was adamant about not using them and paying fees.
Posted by: carr914 Dec 31 2012, 04:56 PM
Don't know the guy, but I would Never buy anything from someone if they have less than 25 Posts (on any Forum! - heck on some Forums you are not allowed to sell if you don't have 30)
Wait, he only takes Western Union?
Then I would never buy from himMaybe he is sending the motor Pony Express!
Posted by: Cairo94507 Dec 31 2012, 05:21 PM
Lurker with no real posts.....sorry, I won't bite. I hope your engine shows up and for God's sake, please do not send him another penny despite the fact you met him, etc.
In my opinion, the minute I see "Western Union" I just assume it is a complete rip-off. You may as well just go flush that money down the toilet.
Posted by: wndsnd Dec 31 2012, 05:31 PM
Lurker with no real posts.....sorry, I won't bite. I hope your engine shows up and for God's sake, please do not send him another penny despite the fact you met him, etc.
In my opinion, the minute I see "Western Union" I just assume it is a complete rip-off. You may as well just go flush that money down the toilet.
You are right, but I write checks all the time as well as PayPal. However, I am getting PM's from members with bad things to report about Running914.
Posted by: rdauenhauer Dec 31 2012, 05:49 PM
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Posted by: dlkawashima Dec 31 2012, 05:54 PM
Unfortunately this sounds very familiar. You may want to do a search for member name ripping914 in the Classifieds section.
Posted by: carr914 Dec 31 2012, 06:04 PM
If I were you,I would take a ride to PA to pick up the Motor, get $150 Cash Back and break out a can of Whup-Ass
Posted by: Scarlet75 Dec 31 2012, 06:11 PM
If you need a truck let me know. I have in-laws down the road from Easton. I would be more then happy to take a day off from work this Saturday go down there with you and deliver your engine with you to your house in Mass. pm me it will be on my dime. There are several on this forum who know me very well.
Posted by: wndsnd Dec 31 2012, 06:38 PM
Unfortunately this sounds very familiar. You may want to do a search for member name ripping914 in the Classifieds section.
We seem to have the same guy.
Posted by: wndsnd Dec 31 2012, 06:41 PM
If you need a truck let me know. I have in-laws down the road from Easton. I would be more then happy to take a day off from work this Saturday go down there with you and deliver your engine with you to your house in Mass. pm me it will be on my dime. There are several on this forum who know me very well.
Thank you so much, I do have a pick up if I have to go that route. I just sent him another email. He has been underground today, saw lots of classified posts yesterday but none today.
Posted by: carr914 Dec 31 2012, 06:47 PM
Unfortunately this sounds very familiar. You may want to do a search for member name ripping914 in the Classifieds section.
We seem to have the same guy.
Now I know who you are talking about - it wasn't through this Forum, but I almost did a transaction with this guy. Bad News, I was dealing with him mostly on the Phone & then when I couldn't get a hold of him, his Mother (?) wrote me an eMail calling me the most Vile Names I've ever been called
Posted by: carr914 Dec 31 2012, 07:02 PM
http://www.scambook.com/report/view/3437/Danny-Hunter-Complaint-3437-for-$1,500.00
Posted by: billh1963 Dec 31 2012, 07:11 PM
Based on this, you need to call him out on pelican, 914club, etc. immediately.
Posted by: wingnut86 Dec 31 2012, 07:13 PM
Do a search on him, his email and location.
Very eclectic posse...
Posted by: 396 Dec 31 2012, 07:14 PM
Sorry to hear of your possible misfortune....right from the start when this person was posting all the f/s items here and in other sites, I had a feeling.
Hope it all works out.
Posted by: wndsnd Dec 31 2012, 07:15 PM
Based on this, you need to call him out on pelican, 914club, etc. immediately.
I posted same on all forums this morning but only had comments from World.
Posted by: Griffinroydonald Dec 31 2012, 07:23 PM
I feel bad for anyone who had a bad deal here and if you get a refund and still need a motor let me know as I have extra running 1.7 motors now and will drop my prices to make it easy on you. I talked to him about some parts but was suprised he didn't take PayPal as they will help you out if there is a problem. 
I don't have lots of post and that did cause me a problem here with a member but I do full disclosure as to my Address and promote pick-up as a way to earn the trust of members.
Posted by: wndsnd Dec 31 2012, 07:33 PM
I feel bad for anyone who had a bad deal here and if you get a refund and still need a motor let me know as I have extra running 1.7 motors now and will drop my prices to make it easy on you. I talked to him about some parts but was suprised he didn't take PayPal as they will help you out if there is a problem.
I don't have lots of post and that did cause me a problem here with a member but I do full disclosure as to my Address and promote pick-up as a way to earn the trust of members.That is most likely why he doesn't take PayPal. I have reports that he did at one time and had issues.
Thank you for your offer. My car is a 1.7 and I tore it down to build a 2056. My car is in for paint now that I finished the rust removal and has been running big $$$. I Thought I would buy a running injected engine to throw in while I sorted the car out on reassembly.
Posted by: billh1963 Dec 31 2012, 07:37 PM
Based on this, you need to call him out on pelican, 914club, etc. immediately.
I posted same on all forums this morning but only had comments from World.
I mean you need to post his name....as well as the scamworld link
Posted by: wndsnd Dec 31 2012, 07:51 PM
Based on this, you need to call him out on pelican, 914club, etc. immediately.
I posted same on all forums this morning but only had comments from World.
I mean you need to post his name....as well as the scamworld link
Tomorrow now I am tired.
Posted by: billh1963 Dec 31 2012, 07:55 PM
Wake up...it's still early!
You have pictures of the other cars in your signature?
Posted by: carr914 Dec 31 2012, 08:05 PM
Danny is Scum & the Admins need to shut down his Ads (again!) & keep him from coming back
Posted by: flippa Dec 31 2012, 08:07 PM
That just sucks! There is nothing worse than getting taken advantage of, especially when you meet the person and they seem like good guys that you can trust. 
I bought a parts car this past August. It was just before Labor Day, and due to my busy schedule, asked if I could leave the car there til I had the time to come get it. Turns out that it somehow went missing before I got back to pick it up. I had to sue them to get my cash back.
I would post this guy's information on every site. It will probably save more than a few people from getting scammed in the future.
Posted by: wndsnd Dec 31 2012, 08:08 PM
Wake up...it's still early!
You have pictures of the other cars in your signature?
Yes but I am on the phone now. The 914 is all I have now. I am a Porsche guy from way back.
My. dad had a 57 A That we had to put a crowbar under the seat to keep it from falling through. I bought my first slate gray 356 in my teens
I need to amend my signature. When I set it up I did not know the protocol.
Posted by: 914itis Dec 31 2012, 08:18 PM
I noticed on one of his ads, he mentioned something like " this is a business"
The tone was a red flag to me.
In my opinion, there should be a rule for someone selling parts to fund a project and an individual selling items as a business.
As most of our reputable busineses here, they have a barner or a link that redirects us to their site or inventory. I think thats the right way for a vendor to advertise here unless it is a group buy.
the site was overload with items from the same vendor. I don't think this is fair for us tryng to use resources here to save our teeners. As a busines a vendor should go to the guidlines of purchasing a barner and host their inventory elsewhere.
Just My 2 cents.
Posted by: wndsnd Dec 31 2012, 08:19 PM
That just sucks! There is nothing worse than getting taken advantage of, especially when you meet the person and they seem like good guys that you can trust.
I bought a parts car this past August. It was just before Labor Day, and due to my busy schedule, asked if I could leave the car there til I had the time to come get it. Turns out that it somehow went missing before I got back to pick it up. I had to sue them to get my cash back.
I would post this guy's information on every site. It will probably save more than a few people from getting scammed in the future.
I will get more info out on the other forums tomorrow.
Posted by: Mike Fitton Dec 31 2012, 08:22 PM
Ok, I bought a small part from Danny a couple weeks ago for $33.45 and he said he didn't take PayPal so he would send the part out and if I was satisfied with it to mail him a check or money order which I did since I was happy with the part. Said he didn't take Paypal because he had some issues with them, I am guessing someone filed a claim and locked up his account. Here is some emails he sent me:
Dec. 16th
Hello, mike, Shipping fed ex is 8.45 , Your total is 33.45, I dont do pay pal, I have a merchant acount, They are changing my terminal to on line sales instead of walk in, I will mail this out in good faith, You can send me a check, money order, casheirs check, whatever is easy for yopu, They gave me no advance warning that they were going to switch this over, You can make it out to Florence Hunter 255 berger rd ,Easton, Pennsylvania, 18042, give me your shipping adress, I will email you tracking tomorrow evening ,after fed ex emails it to me, Thank you Danny
Dec. 27th
Hello, Mike, I am in the process of building a web site, I was wondering If you could send me a pict of your car, I beleive that sombody such as you and the way you demand your parts to be top shelf, You must have a very nice 914, If so I would like to use it on my web site front page, If you would see fit, Thank you Danny
Currently I am waiting for a rear tail light lens he offered me and if it is as described I will send off a money order to him. These are the only dealings I have had with him and so far I have been satisfied.
Posted by: wndsnd Dec 31 2012, 08:28 PM
I noticed on one of his ads, he mentioned something like " this is a business"
The tone was a red flag to me.
In my opinion, there should be a rule for someone selling parts to fund a project and an individual selling items as a business.
As most of our reputable busineses here, they have a barner or a link that redirects us to their site or inventory. I think thats the right way for a vendor to advertise here unless it is a group buy.
the site was overload with items from the same vendor. I don't think this is fair for us tryng to use resources here to save our teeners. As a busines a vendor should go to the guidlines of purchasing a barner and host their inventory elsewhere.
Just My 2 cents.
I met him at his house. There was a multi bay garage that was full of 914 parts and items laid out for photography. I only saw one complete car but the parts supply would suggest he had cars stashed somewhere. I am thinking he might have inherited a garage from family. There is a picture of such on an old eBay link he once used.
Posted by: carr914 Dec 31 2012, 08:32 PM
Florence Hunter 255 berger rd ,Easton, Pennsylvania, 18042, give me your shipping adress, I will email you tracking tomorrow evening ,after fed ex emails it to me, Thank you Danny[/color]
Florence, that was the Bitch's name that called me all the names.
Another Red Flag is when you have to have your Mommy handle your money
Posted by: SirAndy Dec 31 2012, 09:19 PM
That's all i needed to know.
Same guy that has been banned here before for ripping people off.
I'm suspending his account ...
Posted by: SirAndy Dec 31 2012, 09:24 PM
That's all i needed to know.
Ok, for now i just banned him from the classifieds but not his PMs.
Anyone with outstanding business should try to get their parts ASAP.
Posted by: scotty b Dec 31 2012, 09:30 PM
I'm amazed the idiot not only gives out his address, but actually invites his victims customers over
Posted by: 76-914 Dec 31 2012, 09:57 PM
Eric has a warning posted right at the top. After reading thru this guy's PayPal rant I figured Add to that the inability to form complete sentences with correct spelling and you've got a headache in disguise.
Posted by: flippa Dec 31 2012, 10:05 PM
I'm amazed the idiot not only gives out his address, but actually invites his
This unfortunately happens more than you would think. I wonder if they are surprised when the customers retaliate after getting screwed?
Posted by: carr914 Dec 31 2012, 10:14 PM
Thanks Andy.
Posted by: stateofidleness Dec 31 2012, 10:34 PM
Eek. The grammar in that email would have been enough to tell me to "look elsewhere". I feel for those that have been burned by this guy. So far, I have had nothing but awesome dealings with the members on this forum!
I even remember when I first joined the forum, a member sent me a perfectly good alternator (for free!) just to get my car back on the road. I can't remember his name (black and yellow racecar), but it's something I'll never forget!
Best of luck.
Posted by: rhodyguy Jan 1 2013, 01:42 PM
this is absurd! damn near the whole 1st page with ads. let's just push them back with replies to previous ads, bumps and new ads.
Posted by: Spoke Jan 1 2013, 02:01 PM
Someone had asked me about him last month. I don't know the guy and there are very few 911/914 guys around here.
I found this on AA:
http://www.autoatlanta.com/carsales/911/854534753/index.php
And this complaint on Scambook on eBay:
http://www.scambook.com/report/view/3437/Danny-Hunter-Complaint-3437-for-$1,500.00
and this on 914world:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=145647
Posted by: ConeDodger Jan 1 2013, 02:17 PM
this is absurd!
damn near the whole 1st page with ads. let's just push them back with replies to previous ads, bumps and new ads.They just got bumped up because Andy posted a warning stating he had been banned for his scams...
Posted by: rhodyguy Jan 1 2013, 02:24 PM
i get now it rob, thanks. maybe just lump em' together. sounds like a bag-o-onions. 
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Posted by: 396 Jan 1 2013, 02:26 PM
I alerted a buyer on the Bird site....he responded that he's still waiting for his paid item.
What a way to start / market to a small community of Porsche owners
Posted by: bulitt Jan 1 2013, 03:06 PM
I certainly can't advise you what to do, but if it was me,
I would call the Easton Police and seek their guidance. They may tell you six weeks to fulfill a sale is not unreasonable (particularly during the holidays). If they say you have a legitimate issue they can recommend a course of action which may or may not include-
Filing a formal complaint with the police.
Taking him to small claims court. It wouldn't even be about the 500$ anymore, it would be about demanding justice be done and sending a message that unethical behavior has consequence's. I don't believe for one minute one action would modify his behavior but taking "no" action certainly reinforces that behavior.
Reporting his business to the BBB
Posting the facts on the boards as you have done. Just the facts and timeline. people can then draw their own conclusions.
The Police may advise you to refrain from posting his real name or address, unless he uses his real name as his business name.
File a complaint with the FBI internet fraud.
Contact a lawyer and seek advice. Many lawyers gladly offer free advice.
Posted by: r_towle Jan 1 2013, 03:17 PM
wndsnd,
If you need a 1.7 injected motor, I can LOAN you a spare one until you are done with it.
You would need to bring a truck and spend about 30 minutes getting it out of hiding...but it ran when I pulled it out a few months ago.
Rich
Posted by: wndsnd Jan 1 2013, 03:47 PM
wndsnd,
If you need a 1.7 injected motor, I can LOAN you a spare one until you are done with it.
You would need to bring a truck and spend about 30 minutes getting it out of hiding...but it ran when I pulled it out a few months ago.
Rich
Thanks Rich,
But as you know, It is the middle of winter here! My car is at paint, and when it came back I wanted to start assembly and sort it out. But, I haven't been rushing the paint guys because of the holidays as well. Thanks for the offer. I do appreciate it.
John
Posted by: r_towle Jan 1 2013, 03:50 PM
let me know if you need anything, we may have it here.
I know the motor I took out I would have no issues putting it back in tomorrow...
I put a larger motor in its place finally.
Rich
Posted by: wndsnd Jan 1 2013, 03:53 PM
let me know if you need anything, we may have it here.
I know the motor I took out I would have no issues putting it back in tomorrow...
I put a larger motor in its place finally.
Rich
Thats my plan as well, the 1.7 was to keep for originality.
Posted by: wndsnd Jan 1 2013, 04:01 PM
I certainly can't advise you what to do, but if it was me,
I would call the Easton Police and seek their guidance. They may tell you six weeks to fulfill a sale is not unreasonable (particularly during the holidays). If they say you have a legitimate issue they can recommend a course of action which may or may not include-
Filing a formal complaint with the police.
Taking him to small claims court. It wouldn't even be about the 500$ anymore, it would be about demanding justice be done and sending a message that unethical behavior has consequence's. I don't believe for one minute one action would modify his behavior but taking "no" action certainly reinforces that behavior.
Reporting his business to the BBB
Posting the facts on the boards as you have done. Just the facts and timeline. people can then draw their own conclusions.
The Police may advise you to refrain from posting his real name or address, unless he uses his real name as his business name.
File a complaint with the FBI internet fraud.
Contact a lawyer and seek advice. Many lawyers gladly offer free advice.
I am hoping it doesn't come to that. I know it is holiday time, but I am giving him time to respond somehow. We will see what the week brings.
Posted by: r_towle Jan 1 2013, 04:04 PM
The easiest way out of this would be to drive down and get it.
Sorry to say, but it may be better if you go sooner rather than later.
Bring a large friend.
rich
Posted by: Hammy Jan 1 2013, 04:18 PM
The easiest way out of this would be to drive down and get it.
Sorry to say, but it may be better if you go sooner rather than later.
Bring a large friend.
rich
Posted by: billh1963 Jan 1 2013, 04:35 PM
How long a drive is it from your house to there?
Posted by: wndsnd Jan 1 2013, 04:41 PM
Danny just contacted me via email
Hello, Here is exxactley what i am doing, Their was a problem with the weather snow here in the north east, The whole world can watch me tell you this, You came and saw a motor that was sold as a CORE read the add, It did run I ran the motor in the car, You paid 250.00 for the motor, I agreed to clean it up set the valves and give it to you correct as could be, It cost me More time and money than i made on the motor, I want you to go to sombody have them set you up a good running 914 That you can just bolt in hit the key and it is done, I have your motor back at my shop, It costed me 100.00 In fuel in a truck Just to get it broke down, I do not want your money, I dont care if the entire planet is watching this transaction, You are acusing me of what, scamming you,
Being dishonest, You will be receiving your money back, This deal is over, You obviously think I am stuupid or in desperate need of other peopls money, I have news for you my freind I bust my ass every day to make an honest living, You have no clue, I have sent over 20 parts in the 914world and pelican, In good faith That people send me a check, GFuess what their is not one single person who screwed me or me them, So you take yourThis is exactly the reason i waited tto contact you, Because i could tell by your attitude that i was doing somthing wrong to you, Get your $500.00 and go buy a nice great motor, oUR BUISNESS IS DONE , dANNY hUNTER
I responed
Danny,
Sorry this went this way. I will expect my money by weeks end. You need to communicate better, at the very least. I resent having to wait around day after day and hearing excuse after excuse, after I chase you down. BTW I paid $500.00 for the engine delivered. I expect $500.00.
John
And Does this sound like a core to anyone?
"Hello, I cashed the check, I am thinking it will be ready for delivery, Friday in the upcoming week, I apreciate you and thank you for yopur buisness, I will be starting the motor up here, On my bench, I will call you on wendsday and let you know how it sounds, Thank you Danny "
Posted by: billh1963 Jan 1 2013, 04:47 PM
Get in the car and show up at his door....I would definitely be driving for my money!
Posted by: wndsnd Jan 1 2013, 04:50 PM
Get in the car and show up at his door....I would definitely be driving for my money!
15 hours round trip.
Posted by: Scarlet75 Jan 1 2013, 05:34 PM
Get in the car and show up at his door....I would definitely be driving for my money!
15 hours round trip.
My offer still stands. It would be an 8 hour round trip for me but its only time
Posted by: billh1963 Jan 1 2013, 05:38 PM
Get in the car and show up at his door....I would definitely be driving for my money!
15 hours round trip.
I drove 24 hours round trip to Cleveland...TWICE this summer for cars. Ask hot_shoe914 how far he drives for cars!
Go and get the engine or your money.......
Posted by: wndsnd Jan 1 2013, 05:39 PM
Get in the car and show up at his door....I would definitely be driving for my money!
15 hours round trip.
My offer still stands. It would be an 8 hour round trip for me but its only time
Thanks Andy
I will patiently await my refund
Posted by: carr914 Jan 1 2013, 06:43 PM
You obviously think I am stuupid , dANNY hUNTER
Well yes dANNY, by the way you spell, I think you are stuupid
Posted by: Dr Evil Jan 1 2013, 09:08 PM
Who wants to bet this genius will be at Hershey in April?
Posted by: Scarlet75 Jan 2 2013, 06:00 AM
Who wants to bet this genius will be at Hershey in April?
Only 4 months to find out.
Posted by: wingnut86 Jan 2 2013, 06:27 AM
I may miss this for the 5th year- so is life.
But, which fearless soul is printing up the BUYER BEWARE flyers with this Prix image to pass around
Posted by: rhodyguy Jan 2 2013, 09:33 AM
you should ask a postal money order (costs a buck or so) or cashiers check (the refund i would make), be done with the deal, and move forward. BELIEVE me, it will drive you crazy if you don't. the engine for you is out there someplace.
everything happens for a reason.
Posted by: worn Jan 2 2013, 12:03 PM
BELIEVE me, it will drive you crazy if you don't. the engine for you is out there someplace. everything happens for a reason.
Spoken by a guy who shipped me a very nice fan with all the fins after having to wait a few weeks for me to remember where my check book was. Thanks.
Posted by: scott_in_nh Jan 2 2013, 12:14 PM
The easiest way out of this would be to drive down and get it.
Sorry to say, but it may be better if you go sooner rather than later.
Bring a large friend.
rich
I may not be large, but if you are going to Towle's let me know John - I'll come along for the ride and to offer a hand.
Can't wait to see the paint!
Posted by: rhodyguy Jan 2 2013, 12:19 PM
worn, you didn't drive me crazy. when lines of communication are open it's never a hassle to me. given your join date search "onion" and/or "happy, happy, joy, joy" using rhodyguy, in the garage, and set the search parameters for for any date. now THAT was a HASSLE! i read thru them again yesterday. interesting...i was going thru an undiagnosed medical condition at the time that turned me into a rageoholic. that certainly didn't help matters.
k
Posted by: wndsnd Jan 2 2013, 12:35 PM
The easiest way out of this would be to drive down and get it.
Sorry to say, but it may be better if you go sooner rather than later.
Bring a large friend.
rich
I may not be large, but if you are going to Towle's let me know John - I'll come along for the ride and to offer a hand.
Can't wait to see the paint!
Thanks Scott,
At this point I am waiting on a return check.
Posted by: 7TPorsh Jan 2 2013, 12:45 PM
Posted by: jeeperjohn56 Jan 2 2013, 05:02 PM
Yes, his name is Danny Hunter and I'm a victim also. Small amount for my parts, but no parts since Dec.19th and no responce or emails to where they are. So buyers beware. John
Posted by: wndsnd Jan 2 2013, 05:35 PM
Yes, his name is Danny Hunter and I'm a victim also. Small amount for my parts, but no parts since Dec.19th and no responce or emails to where they are. So buyers beware. John
That sucks the amount doesn't matter. He is unorganized and a terrible communicator. Stay on him. I have phone # for him if you want PM me.
John
Posted by: a914622 Jan 2 2013, 06:12 PM
Like a train wreck IM TRYING TO TURRRRNNN AWAAYYYY.
I just cant think how big the balls are on a guy that was kicked off last year, to dive back in under a different name and do the same sh1t and think no one will figure him out!!
GD man thats the definition of a career criminal ! Do the world at large a favor and get the police involved!!
good luck. jcl
Posted by: SirAndy Jan 3 2013, 03:07 PM
For anyone who still thinks this Danny Hunter guy has been treated unfairly, read this from last year:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=147916
Posted by: Cairo94507 Jan 3 2013, 03:18 PM
someone needs to throw that POS a "blanket party". That should solve any future problems.
Posted by: rhodyguy Jan 3 2013, 03:28 PM
"deflamation of character" laughin' so hard had to stop at that one....back to the fun
so, danny boy was 14 in june 2011 making him 15 1/2 now. who's the marine? who went thru some hard times, fought back, and is now a winner? 3 words....
BATH SALTS!!! RELAPSE!!!!.....
Posted by: Scarlet75 Jan 3 2013, 03:42 PM
For anyone who still thinks this Danny Hunter guy has been treated unfairly, read this from last year:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=147916
Now I remember why that name was familiar.
Posted by: scotty b Jan 3 2013, 03:57 PM
Yes, his name is Danny Hunter and I'm a victim also. Small amount for my parts, but no parts since Dec.19th and no responce or emails to where they are. So buyers beware. John
That sucks the amount doesn't matter. He is unorganized and a terrible communicator. Stay on him. I have phone # for him if you want PM me.
John
So John, out of curiosity. Given how the other thread from a couple years ago went, did you in fact meet, Danny, Charles or Florence ? And was Danny/Charles/ Florence in his/her/it's 70's or younger ?
Did Danny/Charles/Florenece change between personas during your visit ? This might make a great reality show for TLC
Finding D-Chuck-Flo. The lost tapes
Posted by: wndsnd Jan 3 2013, 04:13 PM
Update,
Danny contacted me this morning and said he was through..
"Hello, John today my 914 world site has bee suspended, I return for your services YOU CAN NOW, MAKE WHATEVER ARRANGMENT TO PICK UP YOUR MOTOR, I refuse to do anything about your situation at all, According to my attorney, Shipping was the issue, Not the sale , you came and saw the motor, You called me back and said well lets clean it up and do the extra work, Their was never any cost for the extra work involved, Now you are also being notified of that issue as well, I thouroughly beleive that byou owe me the shipping, You paid no money for extra service work, Every day it sits in my shop you will also be paid storage, Have a great day Danny Hunter"
It looks like I in fact have a good deal because he is going to be paying me storage
I replied with some email copies for his attorney to review.
Danny,
The agreement "contract" always was for you to deliver the engine, per email below. I am waiting for you to return my money. A USPS Money Order or Cashiers check will be fine. And I did pay you more than your asking price to include the delivery. It is all in writing. You got the email, you came and picked up the check, you cashed the check the next day. All that is left to do now that you have breached this contract is for you to return the money.
" Danny,
If you will clean it up and get it shipped to 01913 for $500.00 I will take it. It was good meeting you today. I wish I had more time to spend and talk with you. I should have just gave you a check today but I can paypal you or if you are in the Allentown area you can pick up a check as I am not flying out till Friday morning. Let me know. Thanks John"
"Danny Hunter,
I AM CALLING YOU OUT ON THIS. TELL ME SPECIFICALLY THAT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO DELIVER THIS ENGINE AND NOT RETURN MY MONEY.
I HAVE ALL THE PAPERWORK PREPARED TO FILE WITH THE POLICE A THEFT AND FRAUD REPORT.
John"
Now He will ship.
"John, Here is what i am going to do, I will have the motor shipped to you, I will pay for it, I will do this on monday morning, You will have the shipping companys name and phone number, I just really dont want nothing to do with you, I will honor our agreement, About the motor, and in all honesty, I regret ever getting involved with you, You know dam well i was being more than fair, Your problem is you have money and know what these things really would cost and seen an opportunity to take advantage of my kindness, You did that, If you think this is somkind of game or con job i was trying to do to you, You are wrong, I had some issues, I could not help that, Their is one thing i can do, Just give you what the hell you paid for, In the big picture The only thing i lost was some faith in people, Because i truely beleived that you would be understanding about the extra work and understand that,Parts cost money, Working on a motor takes my time costs money, Vacume lines cost money, Preperation and cleaning the motor takes materials that costs money, You act like i was trying to get a million dollars out of you, You looked at me like a buisness deal that you knew you were on the better end of, Instead of a man trying to get you what you desired, If that makes me a bad guiy then I guess i am guilty, You should wake the hell up and realise, that not every situation in life is about trying to do what is always best for your selfish ass, your motor will be shipped, The cost to me is $ 375.00 plus the added cost of 285.00, to tow a truck, and another $75.00 in material; to do the motor and my time to do the motor,You won john yahooo yahooo, Danny"
Now I do not want
"Danny,
Save yourself the freight charges and return the cash immediately, you are good with Western Union, or PayPal. I do not believe you or trust you or the engine at this point.
John"
Now he is ??????????????
And I have talked to the PD..
Posted by: wndsnd Jan 3 2013, 04:16 PM
Yes, his name is Danny Hunter and I'm a victim also. Small amount for my parts, but no parts since Dec.19th and no responce or emails to where they are. So buyers beware. John
That sucks the amount doesn't matter. He is unorganized and a terrible communicator. Stay on him. I have phone # for him if you want PM me.
John
So John, out of curiosity. Given how the other thread from a couple years ago went, did you in fact meet, Danny, Charles or Florence ? And was Danny/Charles/ Florence in his/her/it's 70's or younger ?
Did Danny/Charles/Florenece change between personas during your visit ? This might make a great reality show for TLC
Finding D-Chuck-Flo. The lost tapes
Didn't know about the past thread thank God.
I met Danny (?) about 35 yrs old. Scruffy, you know, like us all
Posted by: brant Jan 3 2013, 04:24 PM
what a slime ball (bunch of slime balls...)
some people are literally so stupid, you wonder how they made it past their mothers teat....
sorry your going through with this.
stick to your guns if for no other reason than to protect the next guy.
brant
Posted by: rhodyguy Jan 3 2013, 04:26 PM
john, the money is GONE! believe me, GONE!!...ask for the attorney's name and phone #, deal with him, if you truly believe he has the money to keep one on retainer. but you won't get that either. take rich up on his offer, engine up, and motorvate.
do you really know where is guy is located? like RIGHT now.
charging a storage fee when it's not part of the contract prob isn't going to fly. bluster...you're on a fuched up road now, it will smooth out with time. sympathies.
k
Posted by: scotty b Jan 3 2013, 04:45 PM
Take Ed Morrow with you 
I'd love to see the look on this a-holes face if you rolled up with the whole N.E. 914 crew one saturday 
Posted by: jbyron Jan 3 2013, 04:53 PM
The whole time I'm reading this and the other thread, I'm thinking "Honey Boo Boo has got to be in this family tree somewhere".
Posted by: scotty b Jan 3 2013, 04:58 PM
The whole time I'm reading this and the other thread, I'm thinking "Honey Boo Boo has got to be in this family tree somewhere".
" Here comes Danny Doo Doo "
Posted by: stateofidleness Jan 3 2013, 05:29 PM
The whole time I'm reading this and the other thread, I'm thinking "Honey Boo Boo has got to be in this family tree somewhere".
You mean family wreath lol
For the record "Danny"...
, != .
That is all.
Posted by: Scarlet75 Jan 3 2013, 06:24 PM
Take Ed Morrow with you
I'd love to see the look on this a-holes face if you rolled up with the whole N.E. 914 crew one saturday
I am in
Posted by: ejm Jan 3 2013, 06:48 PM
Take Ed Morrow with you
I'd love to see the look on this a-holes face if you rolled up with the whole N.E. 914 crew one saturday
I am in
I was in Easton a few weeks ago. There's a great shop there that sells party supplies. We could get some noisemakers or something
Posted by: carr914 Jan 3 2013, 06:57 PM
Take Ed Morrow with you
I'd love to see the look on this a-holes face if you rolled up with the whole N.E. 914 crew one saturday
I am in
I'll come along for the giggles & farts
Posted by: scotty b Jan 3 2013, 06:59 PM
Take Ed Morrow with you
I'd love to see the look on this a-holes face if you rolled up with the whole N.E. 914 crew one saturday
I am in
I'll come along for the giggles & farts
Is Dr. Evil going to be there ? 
Posted by: a914622 Jan 3 2013, 07:16 PM
"" Now he is ??????????????
And I have talked to the PD.."""
If you were closer I would GIVE you the 1.7 i have just for getting the PD on this joker!
jcl
Posted by: ejm Jan 3 2013, 07:21 PM
Is Dr. Evil going to be there ? I'm out...just remembered I've got bible camp that weekend... whichever weekend it was gonna be..
Posted by: wndsnd Jan 3 2013, 07:28 PM
I think it is time to let this thread die. Who know's who is hurried under the front porch.
Posted by: carr914 Jan 3 2013, 07:41 PM
I think it is time to let this thread die. Who know's who is hurried under the front porch.
NO, we are having too much fun reviving all the Fond memories of Flo & dANNY!
the other Linked thread brought back all the Insults Flo sent my way - I had forgotten about the Afganistan excuse, but I never got the one about a 14 yr old taking over the Computer. She did threaten to jump on a plane to Florida to kick my Ass
Posted by: carr914 Jan 3 2013, 07:43 PM
Is Dr. Evil going to be there ? I'm out...just remembered I've got bible camp that weekend... whichever weekend it was gonna be..
Are you sure that isn't Band Camp?
Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 3 2013, 08:11 PM
I've travelled farther for less. Count me in.
Posted by: 914itis Jan 3 2013, 08:19 PM
In this case, I am in.
Posted by: somd914 Jan 3 2013, 08:23 PM
Take Ed Morrow with you
I'd love to see the look on this a-holes face if you rolled up with the whole N.E. 914 crew one saturday
I've been watching this thread grow over the last several days, but I haven't commented since I didn't have a dog in this fight.
But with an invite like this, well... My dog and I are up for the drive!
Posted by: Mikey914 Jan 4 2013, 01:33 AM
Hey,
Just got a great idea I think I'll pitch to TLC
914Mafia]
Rip us off and
Posted by: euro911 Jan 4 2013, 06:24 AM
You east coast guys get to have all the fun
Posted by: carr914 Jan 4 2013, 08:01 AM
You east coast guys get to have all the fun
And you guys get the Rust-Free Cars - trade-offs my friend!
Posted by: rhodyguy Jan 4 2013, 08:21 AM
if you guys are going to engage in what looks like hatfield vs mccoy skirmish be sure to take lots of cash for your bail or credit cards with lots of room.
Posted by: The Cabinetmaker Jan 4 2013, 08:39 AM
I must agree with rhody. You guys are conspiring publicly to treaten bodily harm or intimidation by a show of force. It's called strong arming and Its a felony.
Posted by: scotty b Jan 4 2013, 08:42 AM
I must agree with rhody. You guys are conspiring publicly to treaten bodily harm or intimidation by a show of force. It's called strong arming and Its a felony.
It's also called joking around.
Posted by: tumamilhem Jan 4 2013, 08:47 AM
Update,
Danny contacted me this morning and said he was through..
"Hello, John today my 914 world site has bee suspended, I return for your services YOU CAN NOW, MAKE WHATEVER ARRANGMENT TO PICK UP YOUR MOTOR, I refuse to do anything about your situation at all, According to my attorney, Shipping was the issue, Not the sale , you came and saw the motor, You called me back and said well lets clean it up and do the extra work, Their was never any cost for the extra work involved, Now you are also being notified of that issue as well, I thouroughly beleive that byou owe me the shipping, You paid no money for extra service work, Every day it sits in my shop you will also be paid storage, Have a great day Danny Hunter"
It looks like I in fact have a good deal because he is going to be paying me storage
I replied with some email copies for his attorney to review.
Danny,
The agreement "contract" always was for you to deliver the engine, per email below. I am waiting for you to return my money. A USPS Money Order or Cashiers check will be fine. And I did pay you more than your asking price to include the delivery. It is all in writing. You got the email, you came and picked up the check, you cashed the check the next day. All that is left to do now that you have breached this contract is for you to return the money.
" Danny,
If you will clean it up and get it shipped to 01913 for $500.00 I will take it. It was good meeting you today. I wish I had more time to spend and talk with you. I should have just gave you a check today but I can paypal you or if you are in the Allentown area you can pick up a check as I am not flying out till Friday morning. Let me know. Thanks John"
"Danny Hunter,
I AM CALLING YOU OUT ON THIS. TELL ME SPECIFICALLY THAT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO DELIVER THIS ENGINE AND NOT RETURN MY MONEY.
I HAVE ALL THE PAPERWORK PREPARED TO FILE WITH THE POLICE A THEFT AND FRAUD REPORT.
John"
Now He will ship.
"John, Here is what i am going to do, I will have the motor shipped to you, I will pay for it, I will do this on monday morning, You will have the shipping companys name and phone number, I just really dont want nothing to do with you, I will honor our agreement, About the motor, and in all honesty, I regret ever getting involved with you, You know dam well i was being more than fair, Your problem is you have money and know what these things really would cost and seen an opportunity to take advantage of my kindness, You did that, If you think this is somkind of game or con job i was trying to do to you, You are wrong, I had some issues, I could not help that, Their is one thing i can do, Just give you what the hell you paid for, In the big picture The only thing i lost was some faith in people, Because i truely beleived that you would be understanding about the extra work and understand that,Parts cost money, Working on a motor takes my time costs money, Vacume lines cost money, Preperation and cleaning the motor takes materials that costs money, You act like i was trying to get a million dollars out of you, You looked at me like a buisness deal that you knew you were on the better end of, Instead of a man trying to get you what you desired, If that makes me a bad guiy then I guess i am guilty, You should wake the hell up and realise, that not every situation in life is about trying to do what is always best for your selfish ass, your motor will be shipped, The cost to me is $ 375.00 plus the added cost of 285.00, to tow a truck, and another $75.00 in material; to do the motor and my time to do the motor,You won john yahooo yahooo, Danny"
Now I do not want
"Danny,
Save yourself the freight charges and return the cash immediately, you are good with Western Union, or PayPal. I do not believe you or trust you or the engine at this point.
John"
Now he is ??????????????
And I have talked to the PD..
"...Their is one thing i can do, Just give you what the hell you paid for"
Damn, don't you hate it when after every avenue the only option you have left is to do what you agreed to do in the first place? Always such a hassle.
I think Mr. Hunter should stop trying to deal car parts and take some English classes. Or as Danny boy would put it, "inglesh clasis."
Really all thsi boils down to is (to quote Cool Hand Luke) "failure to communicate." If Mr. Hunter did have the best intentions (let's say just for the sake of argument that he did), ALL he had to do was COMMUNICATE. He claimed on the Porsche 911 car ad on AA that he checks his email daily. Even if he didn't, he SHOULD if he is making a BUSINESS of selling ANYTHING on a DAILY BASIS. Moreover (now there's a word he's never heard before), let's say (again) that he did have the engine and in good working order, was going to clean it up as agreed at whatever extra cost or lack thereof (if he chose not to charge then that was his decision) and just had problems with shipping it - as he claims - then what is it to just pick up the phone or send an email stating "I have your engine ready. It is running and cleaned up as you requested. I have attached pictures of it for your satisfaction. I am having an issue with the shipper at the moment which is delaying shipping to you. It is taking longer than I anticipated, so for that I apologize. I am trying to get the issue resolved with the shipper. If it is not resolved in a timely manner, I will seek another shipper. Again, I apologize for the delay. I will be happy to let you know when this issue is resolved and engine is going to be shipped. Thank you for your patience."
This BUSINESS is called customer SERVICE. It's a minute of your day to let your CUSTOMER know that what was understood is being delayed, work it out and extend the courtesy of an apology. If things happen beyond your control as we all have to rely on someone else for certain things in business, I'm SURE yoru customer will not only understand, but APPRECIATE you being considerate and taking a minute just to keep them informed. AND more likely to do business with you again because you were being considerate - which is WHAT YOU (Mr. Hunter) SHOULD DO IN THE FIRST PLACE.
So whatever excuses Mr. Hunter makes about how it was out of his hands, all he had to do was say, "Hey, I'm having an issue with the shipper. Sorry for the delay. Trying to get it resolved ASAP. Will let you know when resolved and engine is shipping. Thanks." Instead of accusing you for not appreciating all the work that he did and that he didn't charge you for this and that and now he is going to spend twice as much to get you the engine on his dime and tell you he won't take your money etc.
Not a good business man. Just giving you the bizness.
Posted by: rhodyguy Jan 4 2013, 08:54 AM
www.freightquote.com. 15 minutes, they have phones, and a pallet. it's not that hard. bottom line is some people just shouldn't sell parts.
Posted by: carr914 Jan 4 2013, 08:59 AM
I must agree with rhody. You guys are conspiring publicly to treaten bodily harm or intimidation by a show of force. It's called strong arming and Its a felony.
It's also called joking around.
Posted by: wndsnd Jan 4 2013, 09:01 AM
Update,
Danny contacted me this morning and said he was through..
"Hello, John today my 914 world site has bee suspended, I return for your services YOU CAN NOW, MAKE WHATEVER ARRANGMENT TO PICK UP YOUR MOTOR, I refuse to do anything about your situation at all, According to my attorney, Shipping was the issue, Not the sale , you came and saw the motor, You called me back and said well lets clean it up and do the extra work, Their was never any cost for the extra work involved, Now you are also being notified of that issue as well, I thouroughly beleive that byou owe me the shipping, You paid no money for extra service work, Every day it sits in my shop you will also be paid storage, Have a great day Danny Hunter"
It looks like I in fact have a good deal because he is going to be paying me storage
I replied with some email copies for his attorney to review.
Danny,
The agreement "contract" always was for you to deliver the engine, per email below. I am waiting for you to return my money. A USPS Money Order or Cashiers check will be fine. And I did pay you more than your asking price to include the delivery. It is all in writing. You got the email, you came and picked up the check, you cashed the check the next day. All that is left to do now that you have breached this contract is for you to return the money.
" Danny,
If you will clean it up and get it shipped to 01913 for $500.00 I will take it. It was good meeting you today. I wish I had more time to spend and talk with you. I should have just gave you a check today but I can paypal you or if you are in the Allentown area you can pick up a check as I am not flying out till Friday morning. Let me know. Thanks John"
"Danny Hunter,
I AM CALLING YOU OUT ON THIS. TELL ME SPECIFICALLY THAT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO DELIVER THIS ENGINE AND NOT RETURN MY MONEY.
I HAVE ALL THE PAPERWORK PREPARED TO FILE WITH THE POLICE A THEFT AND FRAUD REPORT.
John"
Now He will ship.
"John, Here is what i am going to do, I will have the motor shipped to you, I will pay for it, I will do this on monday morning, You will have the shipping companys name and phone number, I just really dont want nothing to do with you, I will honor our agreement, About the motor, and in all honesty, I regret ever getting involved with you, You know dam well i was being more than fair, Your problem is you have money and know what these things really would cost and seen an opportunity to take advantage of my kindness, You did that, If you think this is somkind of game or con job i was trying to do to you, You are wrong, I had some issues, I could not help that, Their is one thing i can do, Just give you what the hell you paid for, In the big picture The only thing i lost was some faith in people, Because i truely beleived that you would be understanding about the extra work and understand that,Parts cost money, Working on a motor takes my time costs money, Vacume lines cost money, Preperation and cleaning the motor takes materials that costs money, You act like i was trying to get a million dollars out of you, You looked at me like a buisness deal that you knew you were on the better end of, Instead of a man trying to get you what you desired, If that makes me a bad guiy then I guess i am guilty, You should wake the hell up and realise, that not every situation in life is about trying to do what is always best for your selfish ass, your motor will be shipped, The cost to me is $ 375.00 plus the added cost of 285.00, to tow a truck, and another $75.00 in material; to do the motor and my time to do the motor,You won john yahooo yahooo, Danny"
Now I do not want
"Danny,
Save yourself the freight charges and return the cash immediately, you are good with Western Union, or PayPal. I do not believe you or trust you or the engine at this point.
John"
Now he is ??????????????
And I have talked to the PD..
"...Their is one thing i can do, Just give you what the hell you paid for"
Damn, don't you hate it when after every avenue the only option you have left is to do what you agreed to do in the first place? Always such a hassle.
I think Mr. Hunter should stop trying to deal car parts and take some English classes. Or as Danny boy would put it, "inglesh clasis."
Really all thsi boils down to is (to quote Cool Hand Luke) "failure to communicate." If Mr. Hunter did have the best intentions (let's say just for the sake of argument that he did), ALL he had to do was COMMUNICATE. He claimed on the Porsche 911 car ad on AA that he checks his email daily. Even if he didn't, he SHOULD if he is making a BUSINESS of selling ANYTHING on a DAILY BASIS. Moreover (now there's a word he's never heard before), let's say (again) that he did have the engine and in good working order, was going to clean it up as agreed at whatever extra cost or lack thereof (if he chose not to charge then that was his decision) and just had problems with shipping it - as he claims - then what is it to just pick up the phone or send an email stating "I have your engine ready. It is running and cleaned up as you requested. I have attached pictures of it for your satisfaction. I am having an issue with the shipper at the moment which is delaying shipping to you. It is taking longer than I anticipated, so for that I apologize. I am trying to get the issue resolved with the shipper. If it is not resolved in a timely manner, I will seek another shipper. Again, I apologize for the delay. I will be happy to let you know when this issue is resolved and engine is going to be shipped. Thank you for your patience."
This BUSINESS is called customer SERVICE. It's a minute of your day to let your CUSTOMER know that what was understood is being delayed, work it out and extend the courtesy of an apology. If things happen beyond your control as we all have to rely on someone else for certain things in business, I'm SURE yoru customer will not only understand, but APPRECIATE you being considerate and taking a minute just to keep them informed. AND more likely to do business with you again because you were being considerate - which is WHAT YOU (Mr. Hunter) SHOULD DO IN THE FIRST PLACE.
So whatever excuses Mr. Hunter makes about how it was out of his hands, all he had to do was say, "Hey, I'm having an issue with the shipper. Sorry for the delay. Trying to get it resolved ASAP. Will let you know when resolved and engine is shipping. Thanks." Instead of accusing you for not appreciating all the work that he did and that he didn't charge you for this and that and now he is going to spend twice as much to get you the engine on his dime and tell you he won't take your money etc.
Not a good business man. Just giving you the bizness.
Exactly. Well said. If Danny would have just called on those days that he promised delivery and I waited around all day for nothing I would have been fine with that. His problem is that he has an unreliable driver, with an unreliable truck, and he doesn't seem to be able to make the trip, so he should have put it on a truck a week ago. And all his complaining about me is BS. All I did was treat him with respect, and his business with respect. And one of the reasons I was talking about more parts with him was to make the delivery better for him. But I sure wan't going to give him more money up front. I told him I would pay on delivery. And, I had planned on giving him a tip for the service. So the world through Danny's glasses is tainted dark. $500.00 is a lot of my car money despite what he thinks my financial position is. He told me he just purchased an $8900.00 3.6 to put into his 914. I don't have a 3.6! I don't have a stinking old $500.00 1.7!
Posted by: carr914 Jan 4 2013, 09:04 AM
"...Their is one thing i can do, Just give you what the hell you paid for"
But that will never happen - look at the other Linked Thread and you will see this guy shouldn't be working on lawnmowers much less Porsches!
Posted by: worn Jan 4 2013, 09:04 AM
www.freightquote.com. 15 minutes, they have phones, and a pallet. it's not that hard. bottom line is some people just shouldn't sell parts.
Spoken from a person with some self discipline. In the end when the money is spent and you wish it had been more you turn to behaviors that annoy others. And without that self discipline it happens over and over and you don't know why, and you don't know why every one is on your case. Frankly, I don't see how anyone can make a real living selling a few used parts a day or week, even if they are junk. I feel sorry for the whole thing. For some reason selling automobiles can bring out the worst in people who are otherwise great. Twice I have bought 911s on trust and both times the sellers were hiding, I mean hiding, problems that made the car worth a lot less.
Fortunately for the most part this particular *World* is a nice place to hang out and trade.
Posted by: wndsnd Jan 4 2013, 09:13 AM
I must agree with rhody. You guys are conspiring publicly to treaten bodily harm or intimidation by a show of force. It's called strong arming and Its a felony.
No conspiring on my part. I am asking everyone to let it rest. Danny Hunter has been exposed for what he is and what he has done and now buyer beware. Let him play on Craigslist. I am waiting for his refund ..........
Based on the overall exposure, I doubt it will be possible for him to surface on the forums with a new name without someone catching it.
Time to move on.
Posted by: rhodyguy Jan 4 2013, 09:19 AM
"self discipline" 
...well that's a first...i quess ...thanks. please note the emoticons.
k
Posted by: tumamilhem Jan 4 2013, 09:20 AM
You east coast guys get to have all the fun
And you guys get the Rust-Free Cars - trade-offs my friend!
Hey carr914 - I'm just north of you in Jacksonville!
Sorry to get off topic.
Posted by: scotty b Jan 4 2013, 09:50 AM
I must agree with rhody. You guys are conspiring publicly to treaten bodily harm or intimidation by a show of force. It's called strong arming and Its a felony.
No conspiring on my part. I am asking everyone to let it rest. Danny Hunter has been exposed for what he is and what he has done and now buyer beware. Let him play on Craigslist. I am waiting for his refund ..........
Based on the overall exposure, I doubt it will be possible for him to surface on the forums with a new name without someone catching it.
Time to move on.
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