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Posted by: euro911 Jan 2 2013, 06:26 PM

Decided it would be best to start a new thread here in the Garage for keeping track of proposed participants for these.

Make sure to post your preference in COLOR for the Taco Plate(s) and Tuna Can(s) (BLACK or SILVER) ...
BLUE NO LONGER AVAILABLE

ALSO, post your Shipping Preference (Individual or Group)

... and if you want to order gaskets from Chris ...


SEE POST # 91 for Tentative Payment Information http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&showtopic=201247&view=findpost&p=1805398



Mini Deep Oil Sump extension for volkswagen aircooled type 4 engines.

Increase your engines oil capacity to help prevent oil starvation.

Fits all type IV (4) engines including Type 2 (T2) bay windows 72-79, Type 25 (T3) Transporter / Vanagon 80-83, Porsche 914s and of course VW Type 4's (Tunacan)

Precision Machined high-strength aluminium.

Complete with fitting hardware and oil pick up extension tube.

Taco and Tuna:



Taco (Silver)


Tuna (Black) (Blue is no longer available):


Tuna (Silver) (also available in Black)




Hello all and thanks for your interest.

Heres some figures for you;

Taco plate
£32 each for 1-4
£31 each for 5-9
£29 each for 10-24
£27 each for 25-49
£25 each for 50+

Tuna can
£45 each for 1-4
£43 each for 5-9
£41 each for 10-24
£39 each for 25-49
£36 each for 50+

Shipping
£8 for 1 Part
£2 for each additional part up to 10 parts
£1 for each additional part over 10 parts


As an example if you order 10 taco plates and have them shipped to the same address they will work out to £31.60 each including shipping, which is less than the £32 for just the part. Or better still if i can make 25 for you then they will be £28.64 each including shipping. But for 50 they work out to just £26.32 each includng shipping.

$$$$ - To give you an idea of the exchange rates -

£31.60 GBP (the shipped cost for each taco plate if ordering 10) will work out to appox $50 USD.

£26.32 GBP (the shipped cost for each taco plate if ordering 50) will work out to appox $40 USD.

Hope this helps, if you want more info/prices etc just let me know.

Cheers,
Neil

EDIT 1/22/13 - PRICE DROP ON TACO PLATES, NOW ONLY £27 each

As of Feb 1, the count on Taco Plates is 31, @ £27 (currently $42.75) each + shipping*

... and the count on Tuna Cans is now 45, @ £39 (currently $61.75) each + shipping*

* Not sure how the shipping thing will work yet. If a participant can accept a shipment for a group of buyers in your local area, shipping costs could be reduced a bit. I'd be willing to accept a shipment for the local Los Angeles/OC guys, then we can figure out how to redistribute them once they're here ...

If you're located somewhere else in the country, possibly you or another participant in your area can handle your local region too

Otherwise, it appears that shipping would to your individual address at the rates shown above.


PARTICIPANTS:

..... NAME .......TACO PLATE .. TUNA CAN* .. COLOR *(Silver, Black, Blue) .. SHIPPING (I - Individual or G -Group)

Jim Hoyland .............1.........................1.................S............G (LA)........Gaskets: Both x1
euro911...................1..........................1......... .......S............G (LA)........Gasket: Taco x1
gothspeed ..............2..........................2.................Blk..........I.................Gaskets: ? DROPPED OUT 2/9
pete000 ..............................................1..................S............G (LA)........Gaskets: ?
0396 ....................................................1..................S............I..................Gasket: Tuna x1
r3dplanet..................1.........................1..................S............I.................Gaskets: Both x1
KaptKaos..................1.........................1..................S............G (LA)........Gaskets: Both x1
Lonewolfe.................1.........................1.................S..............I.................Gaskets: Both x1

EDIT 1/2/13
sportlicherFahrer.....1.........................1.................Blk...........I..................Gaskets: Both x1
no1uno.....................1.........................2..................S.............I...................Gaskets: Taco x1, Tuna x2
914four.....................1.........................1..................S.............I...................Gaskets: Both x1
Racer Chris.........................................4..................S............G (CT)
914_teener..............1.........................1..................S............G (LA)...........Gaskets: ? DROPPED OUT 2/9

EDIT 1/3/13
StratPlayer..............1.........................1..................S..............I...................Gaskets: ?
Valy........................................................1..................S.............G (LA).........Gaskets: ?
michael7810...........1.........................1..................S..............I..................Gaskets: Both x1

EDIT 1/4/13
arty914 ..............................................1...................S.............I...................Gaskets: ?
Rleog........................1.........................1...................S............G (CT).........Gaskets: Both x2 ?

EDIT 1/5/13
Kansas 914.............1.........................1..................S.............I...................Gaskets: ?
wndsnd......................1........................1..................S.............G (CT)........Gaskets: ?
02loftsmoor.............1........................1..................S..............I...................GASKETS: BOTH x1

EDIT 1/7/13
tscrihfield..................1.......................1.................Blk............I...................Gaskets: ?

EDIT 1/8/13
LotusJoe.............................................1...................S.............G (LA)..........Gaskets: ?

EDIT 1/13/13
RiceNeck..................1.......................1..................S.............I....................Gaskets: Taco x2

EDIT 1/15/13
cork............................1.......................1..................S.............I...................Gaskets: ?

EDIT 1/16/13
rdauenhauer............1.......................1..................S.............I...................Gaskets: ?

EDIT 1/17/13
Dasnowman.............1.......................1..................S.............I...................Gaskets: ?

EDIT 1/21/13
Krieger...............................................1..................S..............I...................Gaskets: ?
dfelz....................................................1..................S.............G (LA).........Gasket: Tuna x1

EDIT 1/22/13
Jmedeiros................2.......................2..................S..............I....................Gaskets: Both x2

EDIT 1/26/13
flash914..................1.......................1..................S.............I....................Gaskets: Both x1

EDIT 1/27/13
toadman.................1.......................1..................S.............I....................Gaskets: Both x1

EDIT 1/29/13
NORD................................................1..................S.............I....................Gaskets: Tuna x1
bozo914..................1......................1.................Blk...........I....................Gaskets: Both x1

EDIT 1/30/13
914bry.....................1.......................1..................S.............I....................Gaskets: ? ................................ Canada
zixxv6......................1.......................1..................S.............I...................Gaskets: Both x1
John Jentz.........................................1..................S.............I...................Gaskets: Tuna x1
Harpo................................................1.................Blk.............I...................Gaskets: Both x2
clapeza..................1............................................S..............I...................Gaskets: Taco x1

EDIT 1/31/13
Rob914.............................................1..................S.............I....................Gaskets: ?
timothy_nd28........1.............................................S.............I....................Gaskets: ?

EDIT 2/8/13
pnewman..........................................1..................S.............I....................Gaskets: Tuna x2

Make sure to post your preference in COLOR for the Taco Plate(s) and Tuna Can(s) (BLACK or SILVER) ...
BLUE NO LONGER AVAILABLE

ALSO, post your Shipping Preference (Individual or Group)

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 2 2013, 10:38 PM

I'd like to get 3 silver Tunacans.

Posted by: 914_teener Jan 3 2013, 12:02 AM

Mark,

Thanks for organizing.

I am in for the Taco and Tuna.

I am assuming they are universal for all cases. (cases as in displacement)

Let me know payment to uk in Euros? That wasn't clear.

Posted by: 914_teener Jan 3 2013, 12:04 AM

OOps.

That would be silver in both cases. (Taco and Tuna) Thanks.

Posted by: 396 Jan 3 2013, 01:28 AM

I just updated mine to Silver.
Thanks...sending mine to your shop in the LA area- I'm in for that too.

Posted by: euro911 Jan 3 2013, 02:09 AM

Good questions, Rob.

Neil discussed the Pay Pal and exchange rates in one of his other threads. You will pay via Pay Pal with USD, Pay Pal will convert to GBP.

All T4 cases are the same in regards to these parts fitting.


This whole thing just kind of fell into my lap, so the particulars aren't exactly dialed in yet.

When I set up a fender flare GB from AA, all the participants sent their payments to me and I cut a single check to George. Payments included shipping to each individual participant's address, so it was easy to deal with because everybody paid the same exact amount.


With this GB, some participants will be ordering different quantities and may also prefer shipment to their individual address. Others may opt for shipping to centralized US locations for redistribution, so this would cause differing total charges for each participant.

My thinking right now is that it would be easier if each participant chose their shipping preference and pay Neil (jonsey) directly.

For those who choose to participate in a centralized shipping method, the total shipping charge will need to be added up and equally divided between the participants. For example, KaptKaos' order (1 Taco and 1 Tuna) shipped to my shop along with my order (1 Taco and 1 Tuna) would incur a £14 ($22.75 USD) shipping charge. We would each pay £7 ($9.09 USD), rather than £10 ($16.75 USD) each... ($7.66 savings for each of us) big savings, eh?

If any other Los Angeles 'locals' would like to join in here, the total shipping savings would add up, and end up being even less for each individual. Boy, are we CSOBs or what

Then, we'll have to determine how each participant would take possession of their parts: pick up at my shop, or I bring to an upcoming event, or ... (to be continued) ...

Of course, these are just my thoughts at the moment, Neil may have some input as well ...

Posted by: 396 Jan 3 2013, 05:53 AM

Mark,

I just notice a correction... some how you have me down for a 'taco plate'....please delete this as I only need the tuna can... As for shipment,
I might as well have it sent directly to me vs me having to fight traffic to your shop....sorry and thanks.
Last question, when do we need to pull the trigger on this?

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 3 2013, 07:55 AM

For any other Northeasterners who are getting in on this GB, I'm happy to be used as a payment/delivery hub if it saves us a few Pounds ($$).

Posted by: 914_teener Jan 3 2013, 10:57 AM

Mark

Ok...I don't mind having to go to your shop to pick up if it will save on shipping.

Seems to me the more the merrier on the manuf. costs. and then ship to your shop.

So contact Neil and reference the GB is what I am hearing.

Posted by: StratPlayer Jan 3 2013, 11:24 AM

Put me down for 1 of each. Tuna can silver

Posted by: KaptKaos Jan 3 2013, 12:12 PM

Silver for me please.

Thanks for running with this Mark!

Posted by: euro911 Jan 3 2013, 03:33 PM

My misunderstanding, Peter. I created the list from what I read in both of jonsey's Classified threads. I assumed you wanted one as posted in the Taco Plate thread

I'll update the list accordingly ...

ALL PARTICIPANTS, Please double check the list to make sure you list COLOR (BLACK or SILVER) ...
BLUE NO LONGER AVAILABLE,
preference in shipping and any other corrections needed[/b] ... I do make mistakes from time to time

Posted by: jonesy Jan 3 2013, 03:57 PM

I know this might add a bit more confusion to the mix and i apologise for that but i thought i should let you all know that i can offer the taco plate and the tuna can in either black or silver.

If some of you have no preference on color then thats cool.

As for the delivery and payment options, i think maybe its best to see who wants what first and then we can discuss the best way forward.

Cheers,
Neil

Posted by: pete000 Jan 3 2013, 05:50 PM

1 Tuna can in Silver...

Thanks !

Posted by: michael7810 Jan 3 2013, 06:51 PM

1 silver Tuna and 1 silver Taco for me. Individual shipping to Phoenix
Thanks

Posted by: euro911 Jan 3 2013, 07:21 PM

I think we should let this GB stay open until at least the end of January

Posted by: arty914 Jan 3 2013, 09:13 PM

1 tuna can silver please. shipped to North Canton, Ohio
Many thanks

Posted by: Rleog Jan 4 2013, 06:23 AM

One silver taco plate, and one silver tuna can

delivered to Chris at Tangerine Racing (thanks, Chris)

Posted by: Kansas 914 Jan 5 2013, 08:58 AM

Please put me down for 1 Taco and 1 Tuna both in silver and shipped individually to Durango, CO.

Cheers!

Posted by: wndsnd Jan 5 2013, 09:07 AM

One of each silver

Thanks Gents

Group ship to Racer Chrris

Ok now it is right. Stinking phone.

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 5 2013, 10:12 AM

John,
you should have yours delivered here.

Posted by: gothspeed Jan 5 2013, 12:25 PM

Wow, the GB is looking good ........Since it appears we are gonna reach the 25 qty. price point ... I think I am gonna get 2 tacos and 2 tuna in BLACK , still deciding on shipping method ....

I think it is a good idea to let this GB go till the end of January at minimum. It will allow Jonesy to start work on the vast quantity and will allow more peeps to get in on the GB, potentially getting us an even better deal ........

Posted by: 02loftsmoor Jan 5 2013, 12:41 PM

I PMed for at red taco plate and tuna can Wes

Posted by: euro911 Jan 5 2013, 05:53 PM

One more Tuna Can will drop the per unit price from £41(currently $66.64) to £39 (currently $63.39) each

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 5 2013, 07:01 PM

$66.64

I can take one more tunacan to save another $3 each.

I'd be willing to receive the entire shipment from England and distribute it via Priority Mail if that will save people more money.

Posted by: euro911 Jan 5 2013, 09:23 PM

Good going, Chris ... now I have to recalculate everything ...

and thanks for catching my typo ... yes it's $66.64, or it was before your addition order (it's now $63.39)


The dollars shown in the right hand column are an example of the savings over having the items shipped from the UK to those particular individual participants, and the list is not cast in stone yet, so those #s could change a bit.

Most of the 'LA' guys (except for Val) are fairly close and the orders can be distributed from here without reshipping. Val may reconsider a shipping method if it's only a few dollars

I haven't calculated using a single receiving location and reshipping. If someone with better math skills than me wants a go at it ...

Posted by: euro911 Jan 5 2013, 09:57 PM

The info that was in this post is outdated and has been deleted

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 7 2013, 10:50 AM

I just ran a spreadsheet for this option using the current piece total of 17+25=42.
To start with I used the "socialist" method and divided all shipping equally per unit.
Import shipping per unit works out to $2.25 and US delivery average works out to $2.05/pc.
This assumes one package delivered to LA containing 10 pcs, for $10; No delivery cost for 8pcs to CT, $6 for one or two pieces and $10 for 4pcs everywhere else.

This also assumes I can ship 2 pcs together via Priority Small Flat Rate, rounded up to $6. If the Tunacan is more than 1 5/8" tall, that may not be possible.
Using this method, anyone ordering one of each will pay about $119.44 at the current exchange rate.

I'll re-run it with each person paying actual shipping for his order.
Some people will pay more, some less that way.

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 7 2013, 11:02 AM

Here's the excel file I created.

Edit 1/8: Excel file has been updated go to post 49 for the new file.


Attached File(s)
 TunacanGroupBuy.xls ( 28.5k ) Number of downloads: 95

Posted by: LotusJoe Jan 7 2013, 11:40 AM

Is there a California group buy? If so, can I still get in on it? I'm here in Southern California.

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 7 2013, 11:47 AM

Its one big group buy, with guys near LA all picking their order up from Mark S. (euro911).

Posted by: euro911 Jan 7 2013, 02:16 PM

Still plenty of time, Joe. Just let us know what you want, color and quantities and I'll update the list.

Posted by: euro911 Jan 7 2013, 02:36 PM

Thanks, Chris.

The .xls only downloads half way, then hangs up. ... I'll try on another PC.

I used to work for a manager that wanted every proposal looked at 12 different ways to determine the best cost. I'm retired now and don't have the time or patience to do that anymore

Posted by: jonesy Jan 7 2013, 02:50 PM

Thanks to you all, and especially thanks to Mark and Chris for your efforts... nice work.

Posted by: jonesy Jan 7 2013, 02:52 PM

I downloaded it no problem Mark, so i think the file is good.
Cheers,
Neil

Posted by: Harpo Jan 7 2013, 04:53 PM

I purchased these in December so here is a teaser of what you can expect



DAvid

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 7 2013, 05:54 PM

Neil,
Can you tell me, how tall is the cylinder of the "tunacan" sump extension?

Posted by: Harpo Jan 7 2013, 06:21 PM

Chris 35.49mm is the total height. However there is a recessed step of 6.6mm

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 7 2013, 08:47 PM

That's exactly what I was looking for, thanks.
It means a taco plate and a tuna can will easily fit in one small flat rate box.
So cross continent shipping for one or two is $5.35.
3-10 pieces is $9.62.

It looks like the LA group would pay $3.29 per piece total shipping, vs. $4.56.
Someone receiving one of each would pay $10.01 total shipping, vs. $19.56.
I'll repost the spreadsheet in the morning after making adjustments.

Posted by: tscrihfield Jan 7 2013, 09:00 PM

Are the tuna cans easy to install once the engine is together? It may sound like a dumb question, but.....

Does the taco plate accept the stock sensor?

If so, count me in for one of each black preferred.

Let me know who needs the $$

Thanks!

Thomas

Posted by: euro911 Jan 7 2013, 10:11 PM

Yep, just have to drain your oil get the gasket and seal ...

My understanding is that the Taco accepts stock sensor and OEM seal and the Tuna accepts OEM gasket, strainer and cover.

Payment details haven't been nailed down yet. I proposed that each participant pay Neil directly, but that could change if 'someone' wants to handle that portion . Personally, I don't want to collect the $, especially Pay Pal payments.

The iffy thing about GBs like this one, is there are always a few that sign up, but don't follow through, skewing the numbers for everyone else.

I'd hope all those who are on board are actually committed to this


LIST IS UPDATED - Please verify your quantities and colors are correct

Posted by: NORD Jan 7 2013, 11:50 PM

How would I get in on the group buy for a silver Tuna Can if I don,t have
PayPal? Is this possible?

Posted by: rdauenhauer Jan 8 2013, 01:05 AM

Jonsey can you confirm this ?
My recollection was that original design Tuna can's had no solution for an application of the OE strainer? Picture?

Also this may have already been answered but the OE temp sensor location was angled I assume for clearance and possibly to avoid smackage of swingy bits internal to the motor? Since this mount puts it at a 90 to the case is it now lower?
In other words does it mount proud of the bottom of the case much like the Tuna can?

Posted by: euro911 Jan 8 2013, 01:40 AM

Nord, when the GB is finalized and the actual costs are known, maybe you could send a check to one of the other participants and have them add your purchase to their payment

Posted by: euro911 Jan 8 2013, 01:46 AM

Rich, it looks like the taco plate wouldn't sit any lower then the engine mounting bar

I may be wrong about the strainer. I don't remember who posted something about a modification to use the strainer, but maybe it was for the old style tuna cans. I'll try to find the post


EDIT
Found it. It was relating to the old style can.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=193258

Posted by: r3dplanet Jan 8 2013, 01:53 AM

I forgot to mention my color choice. Blue for both. Individual shipping.

Thanks,
Marcus

Posted by: euro911 Jan 8 2013, 02:05 AM

Got it, Marcus

Posted by: edwin Jan 8 2013, 08:00 AM

I just had one of these arrive in the mail and am very happy with how it looks.
Havent had the chance to fit it yet because i am waiting for a pair of new seals to fit.
May i sugest organising a bunch of these for each kit as you will need 2 for each kit and it's a pain having to wait for 2 suppliers
Looks like some good buying to be had here.
Edwin

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 8 2013, 09:01 AM

Here's the updated Excel spreadsheet.
 TunacanGroupBuy.xls ( 32k ) Number of downloads: 164


I added a column for Paypal Fees in the event someone collects payments from everyone else.
I am willing to be the hub for payments if we go with single payer to Jonesy.
However, Paypal adds a significant cost to this option.
The only way around it is using the Gift option or sending check/money order.
I don't know what Paypal's policy is regarding Gifts, how closely they monitor it or if they apply fees when a payment doesn't fit their accepted model.

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 8 2013, 09:04 AM

I already purchase strainer seal kits in quantity and could add these, as well as a taco plate seal kit if desired. I haven't found a good source for the little hollow copper washers yet though.
The line between GB participant and vendor is getting a little blurry.

Posted by: LotusJoe Jan 8 2013, 12:23 PM

Ok, I'm in for a tuna can. Don't care what color.

Posted by: jonesy Jan 8 2013, 02:32 PM

Hi Edwin,
Thanks for your feedback and glad to hear you like it.
Cheers,
Neil

Posted by: jonesy Jan 8 2013, 02:40 PM

I would prefer a single payment and thats really what i based the discounted group buy prices on.
Paypal gift option works fine with no problems, how can they decide how many friends you have that want to send you a gift ; )
The only fees that paypal apply with a gift payment is if your sending money in a different currency. So the buyers paying you Chris won't be a problem.
However, you paying me will incur a charge. If paid as a gift i will pay this fee (you choose who pays it when you make the payment) as otherwise its not fair on you, unless you divide it again between all buyers... but lets keep this as simple as possibe and i'll just pay it.
Cheers,
Neil

Posted by: euro911 Jan 8 2013, 03:10 PM

Neil, what about the OEM oil strainer?

Can it be utilized with your Tuna Can, or do we eliminate it?

Posted by: 914_teener Jan 8 2013, 04:31 PM

I need an answer to this until I commit to the can.

I like the idea of Chris being a hub as it would seem that the shipping costs will be greatly diminished if he wants to take it on. Besides I think I will spring for the MPS kit since I have committed to stock FI.

So Chris will you do that?

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 8 2013, 05:00 PM

A) Yes the stock strainer can be utilized. That's a key feature IMO.

B) I'm fine with taking care of collecting payment as long as people use the Gift option or send a check/MO.
I have the infrastructure for distribution and most of you are already in my postal address book.
Neil prefers a single payment as I suspected he would want anyway.

Posted by: tscrihfield Jan 8 2013, 08:12 PM

It is a definite for me with the added info I requested. Chris, let me know when I need to pay up! I'll be happy to throw in a couple extra bucks for you facilitating The payment...

Thanks,
Thomas

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 8 2013, 08:22 PM

I'll let Mark keep up the paperwork until the "enrollment period" ends.

No payments until after closing and we calculate the correct payment for the exchange rate and number of pieces ordered.

No need to pay me for my part. I'm getting something I wanted at a better price too.

Posted by: Krieger Jan 8 2013, 08:32 PM

I never took the time to understand the benefit for these things. One or two seconds of oil in a corner?

Posted by: euro911 Jan 9 2013, 12:00 AM

can destroy your bearings. Think about how many RPMs your crank is doing in a couple of seconds

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 9 2013, 10:09 AM

Just a quick note:
I went onto Paypal and got the currency conversion rate they're using.
Its very close to 1.65 today.

Posted by: euro911 Jan 9 2013, 11:28 AM

Yesterday, Jim Hoyland and I were just discussing what seals and gaskets were required. I can get gaskets and seals from Pelican, they're local.

You may need to add another column to the .xls

Interesting side note, Pelican used to be a mile away from where I worked in El Segundo, then after I retired, they moved to within a mile of my shop. How's that for customer service

Posted by: '73-914kid Jan 9 2013, 11:34 AM

If you're on it, let's say the motor is spinning 4k RPM. That's 67 revs per second. Loss of oil pressure for one or two seconds will trash bearings at that speed. Anything you can do to prevent loss of oil pressure on these motors is a great idea.

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 9 2013, 12:25 PM

Yeah, I know.
I already buy strainer gasket kits in quantity for my service customers.
The problem is mixing a simple Group Buy cash transfer with a business transaction.
I would be committing fraud if people sent me money using the personal transaction feature but a portion of the payment was actually being used for a commercial transaction.
So to keep it legit I would have to take a separate payment for the seals.
I'm not ruling that out, but...

Posted by: jonesy Jan 9 2013, 02:59 PM

I currently have 1 black taco plate that is already located in the USA.

This means if anyone wants one quickly they can have that one for £36 shipped.

Cheers,
Neil

Posted by: RiceNeck Jan 12 2013, 08:47 PM

I would like to get a Taco Plate and Tuna Can, both parts in the silver.
Shipped to Austin TX 78717

Posted by: euro911 Jan 13 2013, 03:15 AM

List updated

Posted by: euro911 Jan 16 2013, 12:35 AM

List updated

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 16 2013, 10:51 AM

Updated Spreadsheet:
 TunacanGroupBuy.xls ( 31k ) Number of downloads: 134

See Post 95 for more current spreadsheet.

I can do strainer seal kits for $2.50 and Taco plate seal kits (oem O-ring and 2 oem hollow washers) for $8.50.

I think I want to have the shipping paid for in a separate business paypal payment instead of being part of the personal payment for the Jonesy group buy. That will keep me from getting in trouble with Paypal.

I added columns in my spreadsheet to account for this, and filled in the first three customers as also buying the seals - for an example.
The shipping and seal payment calculated on the spreadsheet includes the appropriate paypal fees.

Edit: had to reload the file after correcting a formula.

Posted by: rdauenhauer Jan 16 2013, 01:42 PM

So is it too late to add an order?
a set (1 tuna & 1 taco) is @ $110.52 USD + $6 or so, CONUS?
silver woud be my preferance

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 16 2013, 02:28 PM

Currently $116.11 to get it on US soil, another $5.79 for delivery.

Posted by: euro911 Jan 16 2013, 07:25 PM

I had a feeling you'd come around, Rich

You're on the list.



This is the kit for the sump/tuna can




... and one of these and 2 crush washers are needed for the taco plate

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 16 2013, 10:50 PM

That's right for the tuna can.

The taco plate doesn't need the paper gasket. Its not made like the stock piece.
My price covers the siicone o-ring and the two copper crush washers for the 6mm bolts.

Posted by: Dasnowman Jan 17 2013, 12:50 AM

If it's not to late can I get silver tuna and taco plate....I'm a little confused on shipping it would be to Seattle area 98230

Posted by: euro911 Jan 17 2013, 02:16 AM

Chris, have you determined if there is a point of diminishing return?

I must have an old version of Excel



Added you to the list, Marlon

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 17 2013, 07:18 AM

When I added Rich's order to the list everyone's price went down 7 cents or something like that.
I think it would be tough for us to get to the next big price break though.
Although 4 more taco plates would drop everyone's price by 2 pounds.

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 17 2013, 08:24 AM

Shipping will be no problem.
I created a Paypal Add To Cart button and put it on a hidden webpage. The url will be supplied to everyone in the group buy.
The button menu will allow each GB participant to pay the correct shipping for his order, along with seal kits if desired.

I added your order to the spreadsheet and now the imported price for one of each is down to $116.03. Add shipping and seals in a separate payment of $17.08 for a grand total of $133.11.

Edit: Updated spreadsheet link added. I corrected another formula error and added Dasnowman to the list.
 TunacanGroupBuy.xls ( 32k ) Number of downloads: 120

See Post 95 for a more current spreadsheet.

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 17 2013, 08:28 AM

Mark,
If you collect the shipping and seal payments from everyone in your LA group, using the Paypal personal payment option, then make a single payment to me, you all can save a little more $$.

Posted by: gothspeed Jan 17 2013, 04:21 PM

The GB is looking awesome !! Will it go till the end of the month? BTW since the prices are looking so good, I will be doing the Individual shipping.

Posted by: euro911 Jan 17 2013, 06:51 PM

Shipping duly noted.

Yep, this GB will end on Jan 31st.



OK, all the Los Angeles guys - need to know if you still want Group shipping to my shop or want to change to individual shipping to your address.

Also, let Chris know if you want to purchase the seals/gaskets from him. If you don't post, we'll assume you'll source your own.

Posted by: Rleog Jan 17 2013, 07:35 PM

Chris:

Two sets of seals / gaskets with my order.

Thank you

Posted by: 396 Jan 17 2013, 07:39 PM

Mark / Chris,
Please add one set of each of the above gaskets to my order.

Thank you.

Posted by: r3dplanet Jan 17 2013, 07:53 PM

Gentlemen, I too would like a gasket set.

Posted by: euro911 Jan 17 2013, 08:08 PM

One for the Taco and one for the Tuna?

Posted by: 914four Jan 17 2013, 09:07 PM

Please add the seal kits to my order.

Kelvin

Posted by: r3dplanet Jan 17 2013, 11:55 PM

Yes. I should have specified both.

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 18 2013, 07:52 AM

Spreadheet updated.
I'll repost it after the weekend and more people have the opportunity to post their seal kit wants.

Posted by: RiceNeck Jan 18 2013, 09:24 PM

Chris,
Is this the correct gasket set.
I ordered these way back when.
I will still need taco gaskets, so you may can help me there.
-roger

Posted by: michael7810 Jan 18 2013, 11:34 PM

I would like a set of gaskets/seals for tuna and taco. Thanks.

Posted by: lonewolfe Jan 18 2013, 11:55 PM

Hey Jonesy, I asked for one of each item but it looks like I should have asked for gaskets for both as well. I would like both pieces in SILVER. How long are you running this group buy? I assume we wait till it's over and we have a total item count before pricing is finalized. Is this correct? I'm surprised there is not a group from the NorCal/SF Bay area. I'm assuming my items will ship directly to me. Will you be contacting all the buyers with totals when the group buy has ended?

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 19 2013, 10:37 AM

For all who haven't followed the entire group buy thread -
Jonesy is the manufacturer of the taco plates and the tuna cans. He is in England.
However he isn't organizing this group buy.

Euro911 is behind the organization of this deal.
I offered to handle the logistics as well as sell the seal kits because I have the business infrastructure to do it efficiently.
Euro911 is keeping the list of participants updated on the first post of this thread.

He has posted that the deal closes on 1/31/2013.
At that time, I'll start collecting Paypal payments.

You will be expected to make two payments to me:
1) pay for the items you ordered using the Personal Payment option so I don't incur a fee for receiving the payment. I'll pm you the payment and paypal address.
2) pay for delivery and any gaskets you want, using a webpage link I will pm to you all at the appropriate time.

No one will know the exact price they are paying until the deal closes and I finalize the spreadsheet. Variables are the exchange rate and the number of items in the final Group Buy tally.

Feel free to organize a group shipping plan to the bay area or anywhere.
Just let us know what you come up with.
However, the savings for group shipping is only a few dollars so it may not provide a meaningful benefit.

Posted by: no1uno Jan 19 2013, 10:50 AM

I'd like to add an additional tuna can to my initial order of one of each. Make them all silver, please. I'd also like to order the seals required for 2 tuna cans and 1 taco plate.

Posted by: euro911 Jan 19 2013, 07:48 PM

Roger, those are the correct gaskets for the Tuna. The Taco takes a rubber O-ring and two small crush washers

The gasket issue was an after thought.

I'm keeping the GB thread updated. Chris is doing the same on an Excel spreadsheet. I'd be updating it as well, but I can't seem to be able to download and open it

Again, the GB will close at the end of the day on Jan 31st. ... then just like the obamacare health bill, we'll find out what each of us will need to pay (which will be quite a bit less than buying these components individually from Neil).

Posted by: RiceNeck Jan 19 2013, 08:37 PM

Mark, thanks for the tuna seal kit confirmation.
Chris, will you put me down for 2 taco seal kits.
thanks,
-roger

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 21 2013, 09:00 AM

I updated the spreadsheet this morning:
 TunacanGroupBuy.xls ( 34k ) Number of downloads: 113


Gasket orders are included, along with product color.

Today's currency conversion rate improves pricing a little more.
We'll see how that holds up over the next 10 days.

I put Lotus Joe in the LA group.

Posted by: Krieger Jan 21 2013, 10:14 AM

I would like one silver tuna can. I already have seals.

Posted by: dfelz Jan 21 2013, 01:55 PM

I would like one Blue Tuna Can with the seal shipped to group Mark (I'll grab it form you at one of the dawn patrols eventually.)

thanks

Posted by: euro911 Jan 21 2013, 02:18 PM

Got you, Andy and David

In addition to the total count, I started posting the current USD costs based on current exchange rate, and will update the first post with each new order (or every few days) ...

It's fluctuating daily, but let's hope it keeps declining

Posted by: jonesy Jan 21 2013, 03:01 PM

I've noticed a couple of requests for Blue... but i'm sorry to say that i can only do Black or Silver.

I did post a while back stating this but its probably been lost a few pages back now.

Hope this is ok.

Cheers,
Neil

Posted by: dfelz Jan 21 2013, 03:36 PM

NP, i only look at the first page...

I'll take Silver then!

Posted by: 914four Jan 21 2013, 07:43 PM

Silver for me as well.

Kelvin

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 22 2013, 08:05 AM

Right now, someone who purchases one of each and gets both seal kits, will pay a grand total of $132.07 - delivered to their door.
That's a pretty good deal!

Posted by: StratPlayer Jan 22 2013, 11:43 AM

So who and when do we pay??

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 22 2013, 12:00 PM

Read Post #91.

Posted by: Jmedeiros Jan 22 2013, 03:38 PM

Please put me down for 2 tacos & two tuna cans in blue & seal kits for all 4. I'm in the bay area so, if anyone is organizing a bulk ship to San Jose, SF or somewhere close by, let me know & count me in!!

Thanks,

Jim Medeiros

Posted by: Jmedeiros Jan 22 2013, 03:40 PM

Just noticed only 'black and silver'. Silver for my 2 tuna & two tacos.

Jim Medeiros

Posted by: Jmedeiros Jan 22 2013, 03:58 PM

Chris - is it cheaper to bulk ship to the bay area?? If so, I'm willing to take all the orders & distribute from my humble abode here in San Jose if someone else isn't already doing it!

Cheers,

Jim Medeiros

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 22 2013, 04:13 PM

You can save a few dollars by grouping.
The choice comes down to how easy it is to meet up with the one who receives the package.

Right now your 4 pc order ships cross country for $9.62 in a Regional Rate A Priority box.
I can fit quite a few more pieces in the box without any added cost.
The LA group has a dozen pieces, so 9.62 divided by 12 = 81 cents per piece.

I'm not going to accept shipping payments until the parts are sent from England, so you have time to work on the idea.

Posted by: sportlicherFahrer Jan 23 2013, 10:32 PM

Would like to update my bit of the order. 1 of each in black with gaskets shipped individually. Thank you!

Posted by: euro911 Jan 24 2013, 03:00 AM

Got it, Jim.

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 25 2013, 07:21 AM

Here's the latest spreadsheet.
 TunacanGroupBuy.xls ( 34k ) Number of downloads: 110

Price for one Tunacan, delivered to your door is down to just over $71!

Posted by: euro911 Jan 26 2013, 02:52 AM

Just a few more days till this GB ends.

Any additional takers?


These are the best price you're gonna get on these for a while



PLEASE indicate your choice of color (Silver or Black) ...

and if you want GASKETS

Posted by: euro911 Jan 26 2013, 08:20 PM

Posted by: flash914 Jan 26 2013, 08:30 PM

One each (plate, can, and seal kit). You will need to work me through pay pal as I use it fine with evil bay but anyother time I'm not so good. Gordon

Posted by: toadman Jan 27 2013, 06:40 PM

I am in for one can, one plate and one gasket set for each of them. Thanks!

Posted by: euro911 Jan 28 2013, 12:49 AM

Only 4 more shopping days ...

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 28 2013, 11:15 AM

Here's the latest spreadsheet:
 TunacanGroupBuy.xls ( 35k ) Number of downloads: 106


Taco Plate price reduced to 27 pounds sterling.
Exchange rate went down a little more.
One thing the spreadsheet doesn't reflect yet is postal price increases due to hit at the end of January.

Here's my current payment plan:
GB closes Thursday night.
Friday I'll post the final spreadsheet and will PM people my personal Paypal address.
At that time I will take payments (no fee please) for the Taco Plates and Tunacans with import shipping only.
I'll post who has and who has not paid and keep the list updated.

We need a deadline for receipt of payment. Is one week sufficient?
If anyone doesn't pay it will affect the price of everone else's order, however, I have a plan for this possibility.

When we reach the payment deadline I will send our group payment to Jonesy.
As soon as I have an arrival timeline from him I will release the url to a webpage with Paypal button I created for the seal kits and delivery payments.
Paypal pricing will be adjusted to make up for any discrepancies due to exchange rate or dropped orders from the first payment.

This method ensures that everyone pays the correct amount.
It ensures that the Group Buy isn't on my company books but the seal kits and delivery are on the books.
It gives people more time to change their mind on group vs. individual delivery and on the number of seal kits they want.

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 28 2013, 04:21 PM

Here's today's spreadsheet in PDF format:
 TacoPlateTunaCanGB.pdf ( 49.28k ) Number of downloads: 94

Posted by: NORD Jan 29 2013, 11:33 AM

Mark and Chris you both have a PM

I'd like to get in for a silver Tuna Can and the Gasket system shipped to my door


Edit; Mark talked to Chris put me down for Silver Tuna Can and Gasket set

Posted by: bozo914 Jan 29 2013, 04:30 PM

OK, I'm in for both tuna can and taco plate, in black w/ seals.

Posted by: toadman Jan 29 2013, 04:48 PM

I forgot to indicate my color choice. Make mine silver, please.

Posted by: 914bry Jan 30 2013, 12:24 AM

I'd like to get in on the deal. I'll take one tuna can and one taco. Both in silver please.

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 30 2013, 09:16 AM

Here's the latest spreadsheet, updated this morning.
The exchange rate is still improving.
 TunacanGroupBuy.xls ( 35.5k ) Number of downloads: 101

Posted by: StratPlayer Jan 30 2013, 11:27 AM

Every time I hit the spreadsheet link, the page doesn't load.

Posted by: zixxv6 Jan 30 2013, 11:36 AM

I am new here just starting a build and would like to get in on this group buy if possible. Please put me down for one of each, in silver with seals for both. Thanks

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 30 2013, 12:04 PM

You're in.

Jim, I don't know what's wrong. I can't download it from my desktop computer either.
I have no problem getting it with my laptop running Vista though.

Posted by: John Jentz Jan 30 2013, 05:10 PM

OK, I'm in for 1 Silver Tuna Can and Chris' set of gaskets.

Posted by: euro911 Jan 30 2013, 05:45 PM

Do you need gaskets for either?

Posted by: Harpo Jan 30 2013, 05:53 PM

I will take one of each (taco & tuna) in black with two of each gaskets kits

Thanks

David

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 30 2013, 07:23 PM

Posted by: clapeza Jan 30 2013, 08:09 PM

I'm in for one taco plate in silver and the needed gaskets.

Chester

Posted by: euro911 Jan 31 2013, 02:20 AM

Updated the list and the .xls

Midnight Thursday Jan. 31st is the deadline to sign up
...

Posted by: euro911 Jan 31 2013, 10:03 AM

...
Last day is today
...

Posted by: euro911 Jan 31 2013, 08:27 PM

Just a reminder ...

Posted by: Rob914 Jan 31 2013, 10:15 PM

I am in for one tuna can in silver.

Posted by: timothy_nd28 Jan 31 2013, 10:41 PM

I'll take a taco plate (silver). Thanks for setting this up guys.

Posted by: euro911 Jan 31 2013, 11:45 PM

Got ya Rob and Tim


GOT GASKETS?

Posted by: 396 Feb 1 2013, 03:51 AM

Some how this has turned into a unofficial group buy. And then with the addition of the gasket kit from Chris...how much do we owe? Ps I've only requested one tuna can and gasket set. Do I PayPal Chris or? Sorry to ask as I've not been following this for a few weeks now.

Thanks

Posted by: gothspeed Feb 1 2013, 11:32 AM

Here is the Jonesy info from the first page of this thread. I thought for 'individual' shipping and no gaskets, one would just pay Jonesy (the maker of these parts) according to the costs below:

Hello all and thanks for your interest.

Heres some figures for you;

Taco plate
£32 each for 1-4
£31 each for 5-9
£29 each for 10-24
£27 each for 25-49
£25 each for 50+

Tuna can
£45 each for 1-4
£43 each for 5-9
£41 each for 10-24
£39 each for 25-49
£36 each for 50+

Shipping
£8 for 1 Part
£2 for each additional part up to 10 parts
£1 for each additional part over 10 parts


As an example if you order 10 taco plates and have them shipped to the same address they will work out to £31.60 each including shipping, which is less than the £32 for just the part. Or better still if i can make 25 for you then they will be £28.64 each including shipping. But for 50 they work out to just £26.32 each includng shipping.

$$$$ - To give you an idea of the exchange rates -

£31.60 GBP (the shipped cost for each taco plate if ordering 10) will work out to appox $50 USD.

£26.32 GBP (the shipped cost for each taco plate if ordering 50) will work out to appox $40 USD.

Hope this helps, if you want more info/prices etc just let me know.

Cheers,
Neil << Jonesy

Here is the latest cost info from euro911 (starter of this thread):

Posted by: Racer Chris Feb 1 2013, 11:49 AM

You obviously haven't been paying attention.

Jonesy is not the organizer of the GB, and he clearly does not want individual payments to be made for a group buy organized by someone else.
I'm helping Mark S., who started this deal, by handling payments and distribution.
Go to the new thread I started this morning to find out what you should do next.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=203236

Posted by: euro911 Feb 1 2013, 11:56 AM

Chris' post #91 outlines how this GB works.

When all the numbers are crunched, all payments will be sent to a special Pay Pal account that Chris has set up.

Each participant will be notified as to how much to pay for their order.

When Chris receives payments from all the participants, he will send a single payment to jonesy for the entire order of Taco Plates, Tuna Cans and shipping from the UK to the US.

Chris will receive a single shipment from jonsey and will be distributing (US shipping) to the participant's locations (either group shipping, or individual address shipping - each buyer's choice).

For those who chose LA group shipping, their orders will be shipped to my shop in Harbor City. All the rest of the orders will be shipped to the individual's addresses as noted. You folks will need to provide Chris with your shipping info.

As Chris stated in post #91, you will be expected to make two payments to Chris as follows:

1) You will pay for the items you ordered (tacos and/or tunas) using the Personal Payment (Gift) option so he doesn't incur a fee for receiving the payment. Chris will pm you the payment amounts and the paypal address.

2) You will also pay for delivery and any gaskets you want separately, using a webpage link I will pm to you all at the appropriate time.

Stay tuned ...

Posted by: StratPlayer Feb 1 2013, 12:04 PM

Money sent:::::

Posted by: gothspeed Feb 1 2013, 12:30 PM

Hey, I am not on here 24/7 and NOT trying to ruffle anyones feathers. I was just going by the information that Jonesy sent to euro911 which included 'shipping' information down to just one part, which would indicate shipping to an 'individual' directly, with one payment to the seller.

Posted by: jonesy Feb 1 2013, 02:54 PM

Hey mate no worries, its my fault for not making it clear in the first place but Chris and Mark have it all under control.

Thanks to you all for your orders, and a big thanks to Mark and Chris

Cheers,

Neil (Jonesy)

Posted by: Racer Chris Feb 2 2013, 11:35 AM

I've saved you another $4.35 doing it this way.

Posted by: timothy_nd28 Feb 3 2013, 03:22 PM

Since I ordered the taco plate, it would be nice if I could hook it up. Does anyone happen to know if this gauge can be put into the brake warning light area on the fuel gauge?



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Posted by: pnewman Feb 8 2013, 07:38 PM

I just found this thread!

Did I miss the dead line?
I am interested in a silver can and two sets of gaskets if still available.
I will pm euro

Posted by: euro911 Feb 8 2013, 08:01 PM

If the guys who ordered don't pay Chris by the Feb 11th. deadline, there may be some 'extras' available

Let's see how Chris feels about it ...

Posted by: Racer Chris Feb 9 2013, 12:50 AM

I just PMed Pete that he can get a tunacan.
Even if everyone comes through, I think we can easily accomodate a few more without issues.

Posted by: euro911 Feb 9 2013, 02:15 AM

... and maybe even hit the 5th. tier on tuna cans?

Posted by: Racer Chris Feb 9 2013, 08:33 AM

Wouldn't that be nice.

Lets open the GB up to anyone else who can send their payment this weekend.
Prices and payment info are posted in the payments thread I started.

Posted by: jonesy Jun 25 2013, 02:00 AM

Anyone want this group buy to run again?

Posted by: Jetsetsurfshop Aug 7 2013, 03:52 PM

You can count me in.

Posted by: jonesy Aug 8 2013, 08:12 AM

I can ship one out straight away for you if you send me the total in UK pound (GBP) via paypal to boatyardbuses@aol.com

Paypal will make the currency conversion for you. Just select GBP from the currency list, and they will take the amount in $ (USD) from you.

The total will be 40 GBP via airmail, or 45 GBP via airsure (with tracking) shipped to the USA. Tracking is not usually required as I have no problems with shipments to the USA.

Cheers,
Neil

Posted by: Jetsetsurfshop Aug 8 2013, 07:40 PM

Hey Neil,
Is that for a taco plate?

Posted by: jonesy Aug 9 2013, 01:51 AM

Yes sorry it is for the taco

Posted by: Jetsetsurfshop Sep 11 2013, 06:09 PM

Does anyone have the VDO part number for the oil temp sender for the taco plate?

Posted by: Bulldog9 Apr 30 2018, 06:49 PM

Well, I'm finally getting around to installing my 'tuna can' and plate.

After a nice drive to warm up the oil I got #770 up on jack stands, drained the oi, dropped the sump (NO metal shavings and only a VERY small amount of goo on the mag drain plug or the sump cover w/ big magnet)

SO I pul out the bags with teh tuna can and cover and bolt with washer and see this top hat looking thing. I'm assuming this is a spacer that goes inside the tuna can. WHich way does this thing go? The Rim is closer to one end than the other. Does the rim go up or down?

Also, dumb question, but where do I put the gaskets on this contraption? I'm planning on one between the cover and tuna can, and between the can and sump screen, but am thinking I need a 3rd between the sump screen and case? Yes, I am still a Neub.........

Hope everyone is well! I ALMOST bought a 914 at the Swap meet last week, a real nice white car..... ALAS, SWMBO didnt give the thumbs up....