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Posted by: djm914-6 Nov 9 2004, 03:04 PM

and get your minds out of the gutter.

I like JPs boxes but I don't have enough room nor is my floor overly level. I want to get the car up as high as possible and be able to work on various areas.

Ideas?

Posted by: nebreitling Nov 9 2004, 03:26 PM

ahhh, the joys of youth...


but back to your question, heavyduty jackstands with thick stacks of 2" wood ought to get it pretty high.

Posted by: djm914-6 Nov 9 2004, 03:31 PM

Hmmm, care to elaberate on that a bit?

Posted by: J P Stein Nov 9 2004, 03:34 PM

I hate jackstands. I'm so freakin' paranoid under a car held up with them I can't take a nap, should the notion arise....thus, the boxes. Casters are an option. Wood shims/wedges for out of level.

One of them lift thingys would be gud iff'n I wasn't a cheep SOB.

Posted by: djm914-6 Nov 9 2004, 03:38 PM

Don't even talk about being a CSOB. I'm starting a new chapter CSOBONE

Posted by: nebreitling Nov 9 2004, 03:42 PM

clarify the youth part? let's just say i hope to have another decade or two before i need cialis!


honestly, i hate jackstands too, although i feel a little better under the heavyduty ones than the 2-ton cheapies from walmart. if they made jack stands with a reciever to fit the donut, i'd feel MUCH more comfortable.


currently, the business end of my car is on ramps, which themselves are on 2"x10"s. nice and high for engine removal, and super stable.

Posted by: ChrisReale Nov 9 2004, 03:42 PM

Ask Mueller

Posted by: nebreitling Nov 9 2004, 03:49 PM

paul has a great method for supporting his car on two jackstands. hopefully he'll chime in

Posted by: r_towle Nov 9 2004, 04:27 PM

Dude,

Get Truck Jack Stands.

I can hold my car at about 24" and they are very strong.

Rich

Posted by: djm914-6 Nov 9 2004, 08:57 PM

What about these pictures I've seen of cars with 2x4s running under them at some points? Can these be placed anywhere. I see most are not on the donuts. If I go with truck stands, where can these be safely placed to allow the most underside work without moving them? I use to use the quick 6 mount and t-bar front attachment points, but I want access to the t-bars and no longer have the quick 6 bars. I also don't have the drivers side rear donut.

Posted by: nebreitling Nov 9 2004, 11:18 PM

you could run a 2x4 under each long, place the jack stands under it where the donuts are/should be. for the donuts, i'd dimple out the 2x4 to slightly to fit around the donut, then place the jack stand under that. more secure.

this assumes that you're a little nervous around jack stands, and don't like the placement of jackstands directly on the donut. (i fall into this camp).

whatever you do, give it a good push before you crawl under it. better for it to fall/slide at that point. and, as someone once told me, make sure your wife knows how to work the jack.

n

Posted by: bperry Nov 9 2004, 11:49 PM

Anybody ever use any of these Stacker Jacks?
I've been curious about these especially when sets of 4 can
be had for under $30.
Sure looks attractive when you price out the AC jack stands.
The design is basically a gigantic bolt with a nut at the top of the base.
They are intended to be used to level trailers & RVs but they can
support 3 tons and have a auto leveling flat to very slightly concave
cup on top which would seem to be great for use on the donuts.

Plus they have infinite height adjustment between 11 and 17 inches.

Any thoughts on using these?
--- bill


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Posted by: SpecialK Nov 10 2004, 04:50 AM

They look A LOT more stable than what I'm using (Walmart cheapos), and if that cupped washer on top of the jacks fits the doughnuts on the car you might have something here.

Posted by: synthesisdv Nov 10 2004, 07:01 AM

I got a set of these 6-ton jacks. I can get the back of the car about 30" with them.

I still put a 2nd set of stands under the donuts and if possible have my big jack supporting under the iron crossbar.

I can sit underneath the car pretty much straight up, works for me.

I also put the rear tires under the tub just so it can't fall all the way down. Still feel jittery the first few times I get under there.


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Posted by: synthesisdv Nov 10 2004, 07:05 AM

When we were building the car, we had her up in big stands that were on roller boards. You could push the car around with one hand. Honestly, I don't know how Larry got it up that high. I probably wouldn't want to watch.


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Posted by: URY914 Nov 10 2004, 08:11 AM

If it were me I would NOT use those RV jack stands.
You'll probably see on the box a warning not to use them to support a car.

There is a product liability issue here and I would hate for your family to lose the law suit because you didn't read the warning on the box.

Use a jack stand made to support a car. Don't take the cheap way out when you're under the car.

Paul

Posted by: 0396 Nov 10 2004, 08:29 AM

To all,

Years ago, one of my friends and I was attempting to install the motor in my 6 .. we were having a diffcult time lineing up the front bolt.

By some divine intervention, I happen to look at one of the cheap three legged jack stands. It was tilted on the side- about
to fall / move..
I got out from under the under the car in no time
We both looked at each other- like hell we could have been CRUSHED if the car had fallen on us.

Now , with a few years behind me.. I take precautions like
some of those that have been mention here.

Posted by: hi ho silber Nov 10 2004, 12:22 PM

pberry,
I'd be interested to find out if the stacker jack has that warning?

I feel if the are rated for 3 tons and fit "well" inside the "donuts" it would be far safer than using ill fitting jack stand on the donut!

If I take all my normal precautions and the car falls and kills me it's my fault!

Just because they put the warning on the product doesn't mean it could not be used safely! More likely a it's a requirement from their legal department. Can you imagine using that type of jack stand being used on a car without a donut?

Later

Posted by: J P Stein Nov 10 2004, 12:29 PM

Time for a pic....just in case some of youz guys missed it.


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Posted by: tdgray Nov 10 2004, 12:33 PM

Ok give JP.... how the F*&K did you get the car up that high

Posted by: Rhodes71/914 Nov 10 2004, 12:36 PM

JP I like that, where did you get the castor wheels?, Does the car roll around easy that way? I assume the wheels are strong enough.

Posted by: J P Stein Nov 10 2004, 01:15 PM

Harbor Freight (where else do CSOBs shop?) for the swivel casters. I can push it around by myself but 2 guys are better for control.....control is gud

I have an 18" lift floor jack. I jack up one end bout 12 " & block it....then move to the other end & do the same.
I then lower the jack & put blocks on the jack cup. ....up another 8-12 inches ...bout that time the boxes go in sideways. More blocks on the jack & up to the full height & the boxes go in upright. By myself, it takes 30-40 minutes....ahlf the time with help....a lift would be gud.

I get 34 inches under the rear trunk bulkhead to pull the motor.....which is the only time I take it that high.
Last winter it went up "only" this far.


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Posted by: J P Stein Nov 10 2004, 01:17 PM

The purists will hate it,but next year I wanna put one of these in......Does Renegade make an adaptor?


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Posted by: itsa914 Nov 10 2004, 03:57 PM

I like this simple to use lift. Gets the car about 30 inches off the ground. Comes with a cross bar where I can place a jack and lift one end or another to work on tire/brakes/ whatever. Best part is I can take it apart in 20 min and store it away, 8 bolts and two pins. Works great!

Never mind the POS parts car


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Posted by: itsa914 Nov 10 2004, 03:58 PM

Front pic.


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Posted by: bondo Nov 10 2004, 05:03 PM

DO NOT use the RV leveling stands! I have a set I got for.. leveling my RV. Stamped right on them it says something like "NOT FOR LIFTING. USE ONLY FOR LEVELING. ALL TIRES MUST REMAIN ON THE GROUND" Of couse when I was not home, jkeyzer used one while fixing his 914 brakes after one of the bridesmaids at our wedding drove it with the parking brake on (early style parking brake, looked like it was off) He didn't die, so that's good. The bases are cast aluminum, and they are very light. Definitely not the sort of thing you want supporting a car. Catch a sale at Harbor Freight, or get the big ones at Pep Boys. Steel is your friend.

Posted by: hi ho silber Nov 10 2004, 07:06 PM

Bondo,
Thanks, I'll look for something else.

Looks like I'll have to make some that will fit the donut.s

hhhmmm doonnutts!!

Posted by: type11969 Nov 10 2004, 07:57 PM

So how about jacking up your car when you are repairing rotted out longs/hell hole therefore the jack donut is entirely out of the question?

-Chris

Posted by: URY914 Nov 10 2004, 08:17 PM

Only use the real thing...
The life you save could be yours.


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Posted by: jkeyzer Nov 10 2004, 08:19 PM

I didn't die. And noone was there to show me the box when I used them.