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Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 08:13 PM

Steve kicked butt again


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Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 08:14 PM

My son shortening tire life on the boxster, Brad taught him a secret


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Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 08:17 PM

The wife shaved more than 6 seconds off her first run with the help of her instructor Kern?


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Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 08:17 PM

again


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Posted by: SirAndy Nov 14 2004, 08:18 PM

stay on the gas and tap the brake with your left foot to get the car turned?

Andy

Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 08:18 PM

1 more


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Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 08:19 PM

trekkor trackin


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Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 08:20 PM

My sled of lead


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Posted by: Racer Chris Nov 14 2004, 08:22 PM

You guys always have white lines around the course so you can see where to go? That's not a real auto-x! Those guidelines are for wimps.

Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 08:22 PM

Listing badly


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Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 08:23 PM

nice color on that 6 there


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Posted by: Racer Chris Nov 14 2004, 08:24 PM

I see a ton of extra cones too. Was this a NOVICE day?

Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 08:25 PM

There was track events today too, with a few mishaps. Just ask this suby that rolled in the esses. Looks totalled to me. Guy was apparently shaken but not hurt.


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Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 08:25 PM

and this


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Posted by: SirAndy Nov 14 2004, 08:25 PM

actually, chris, if you can see the white lines, you're going too slow!

seriously, you don't look at the lines at all, it might help a newbie, but i don't notice any difference between courses with lines and without.

my focus is somewhere else ...
Andy

Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 08:26 PM

Mid engine justice


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Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 08:27 PM

elise armed against rock invaders


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Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 08:28 PM

and this is?


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Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 08:29 PM

Dean and his very nice 356


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Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 08:30 PM

Vintage 550 replica


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Posted by: drew365 Nov 14 2004, 08:33 PM

Holy crap, that Cobra Daytona is beautiful. There was some good competition, the 914 did real well to take TTOD.

Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 08:34 PM

Thanks to PCASVR, my instructor Larry and Debra's instructor Kern! I can't wait for next season. This course was tight for me, I did not do particularly well. This was my first time out in a tail dragger. The car seemed to be wallowing around but i had fun racing with my family. I miss my 914!

Posted by: trekkor Nov 14 2004, 08:55 PM

Some of the cars pictured were running on the big track simutaneously in another event. Not in the a/x with us.

Here's me taking out a cone. Notice, it's still airborne!

Thanks for taking this pic Martin and Alison Baker.

Nice pics here Patrick and nice to meet you today.

KT


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Posted by: trekkor Nov 14 2004, 09:00 PM

GTEENER , Gwen, on the big track out of turn two.


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Posted by: ChrisReale Nov 14 2004, 09:23 PM

We need a "this thread is worthless without MORE pics" thing

Posted by: Aaron Cox Nov 14 2004, 09:48 PM

you guys hsould all drive down for the Riverside Region PCA AX down here. last time it was 10 cars..had 30 euns each.

Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 09:56 PM

The turnout was huge. The vette saw some wall time on the big track


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Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 09:58 PM

CLEAN silver 73 I think.


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Posted by: kermit Nov 14 2004, 09:59 PM

How the heck do you guys cover your costs with only 10 participants? Is the autocross site free or what? Just curious.

Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 09:59 PM

Quick and super clean 914


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Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 10:01 PM

Larry my instructor was fun to watch and pushed this car HARD


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Posted by: kermit Nov 14 2004, 10:19 PM

Patrick,

Larry is one of the best non-pro drivers that you'll ever meet. I swear! He's actually a machinist by profession.

He drove 914s for years and years and would be giving Nieslony nightmares. Hope you learned some good stuff from him. I've known him for about 5 years and I'm still learning from him.

Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 10:24 PM

Howard, Debra missed you today! Here was a 914 grid shot


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Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 10:25 PM

Dean getting ready to extract a dead cone from down under


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Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 10:26 PM

conical casualty


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Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 10:27 PM

nice carerra


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Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 10:28 PM

Bumblin


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Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 10:29 PM

Patrick and his roomate working the start line ignoring Mom


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Posted by: kermit Nov 14 2004, 10:29 PM

Easy now, that's how nasty rumors get started.

Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 10:30 PM

Nice 911T


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Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 10:31 PM

on a roll


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Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 10:31 PM

fancy hardware


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Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 10:32 PM

More free HPH advertising


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Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 10:33 PM

Flame me for posting too many pix of my car


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Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 10:34 PM

Marty's 550


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Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 10:36 PM

Larry on a hot start


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Posted by: ppickerell Nov 14 2004, 10:38 PM

CHP rear


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Posted by: Brando Nov 14 2004, 11:37 PM

I would fear that monster on the highway ^

Posted by: McMark Nov 15 2004, 02:06 AM

Trekkor Werkin' the flag!


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Posted by: McMark Nov 15 2004, 02:07 AM

Spider


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Posted by: McMark Nov 15 2004, 02:08 AM

Birgit doin' her thang.


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Posted by: McMark Nov 15 2004, 02:09 AM

More Birgit.


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Posted by: McMark Nov 15 2004, 02:09 AM

Last Birgit.


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Posted by: McMark Nov 15 2004, 02:10 AM

Mustard 6


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Posted by: McMark Nov 15 2004, 02:12 AM

Super Green. LOVE IT!


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Posted by: McMark Nov 15 2004, 02:14 AM

Whozzat? Notice the camera man in the background. Notice Patricks post labeled "on a roll" above. Notice I was wearing red and jeans.


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Posted by: McMark Nov 15 2004, 02:17 AM

uno mas.


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Posted by: McMark Nov 15 2004, 02:18 AM

ein mal


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Posted by: McMark Nov 15 2004, 02:19 AM

Trekkor worken it.


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Posted by: McMark Nov 15 2004, 02:21 AM

Trekkor doing a wheelie! Well almost.


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Posted by: ppickerell Nov 15 2004, 11:05 AM

Mark,
Were you running yesterday? I met a bunch of new (to me) members yesterday as well as some business acquaintances that I did not now were porscheaphiles. I talked to people from GGR LPR, SVR and Redwood region. Man we are lucky here in the bay area!

Posted by: ppickerell Nov 15 2004, 11:11 AM

Mark, You would have to post my cone carnage. I killed seven little conical fellers during timed runs (f'in taildragger!), and many more went to their graves during the warmup laps. Warm up lap cones did not count so I took cones out with abandon to give the course workers something to complain about. Oh shit, here comes the yellow car again!

Posted by: J P Stein Nov 15 2004, 11:26 AM

Good grief, lines and cones.

I suppose all the clubs do things a bit differently with their layouts. We have all the changes of direction, but we don't constrict lines that that.....more optional approaches/exits and prolly 1/2 the cones.....no lines except in sections where it can get confusing and that doesn't happen often.

I went up to a PNWR AX at Bremerton this last July....a huge layout ....no lines, few cones, nearly impossible to memorize by walking....prolly more than 1/2 mile long on a side. It could have used some lines.....I stunk up the joint.

It would take some gettin' used to, I guess.

Posted by: ppickerell Nov 15 2004, 12:06 PM

JP,
I have not run many events, but the lines sure freed up my tiny brain to concentrate on the car as opposed to hunting for the next gate. At the event previous to this 1/2 the field was DNF for most of the day. That is no fun. This course was short and very tight. Some italian guy named andretti left his semi in the way and forced the layout into a nasty cone killing Z turn. But I say bring on the lines.

Posted by: Randal Nov 15 2004, 12:43 PM

Is lining a course wimpy?

I'd suggest reading Roger Johnson great design book and taking his comments into consideration before making any decisions about this.

http://home.houston.rr.com/rogerthereal/

I've lined the course I’ve designed this year as I wanted the exercise to be based upon drivers finding the best lines and improving their times, which is a challenge in itself, not simply finding their way around the course.

What I'm trying to accomplish in designing a course is creating a racing venue that people can think about and improve upon quickly, as opposed to (again) trying to find their way around the course, which creates frustration.

Another way of looking at this is to look at results. Where we've run "unlined" (sea of cones) courses the number of DNF was high, i.e., in some cases over 30%.

A DNF means that someone went off the course somewhere and every time that happens it isn’t safe.

Also take a look at the SCCA Nationals course on Roger's manual. All lined, must be a reason.

And what can we say about road courses…. Right, they are “in effect” lined as well, to keep all those fast guys on the track.

Posted by: ppickerell Nov 15 2004, 12:50 PM

If you want to recruit newbies to the sport , use lines. If you want to keep all to yourself go for the "sea of cones" effect. My wife had a lousy time at Candlestick a couple of weeks back with all but 1 run DNF but really enjoyed herself yesterday with no DNF's and a 6 second improvement from her first run to the last.

Posted by: Randal Nov 15 2004, 01:09 PM

My exact point.

The Candlestick Halloween course would have been tough enough in any event, let alone not fully lined. To make thing more complicated, the course was run backwards in the PM and a big section physically changed.

I kind of wondered about the run backwards part, as I don’t think John Sidel would have designed a course that had to be changed (for safety I’m guessing) if he had been told about it in advance.

Posted by: GTeener Nov 15 2004, 01:14 PM

I was at the track event and at the drivers meeting in the morning they told the intermediate drivers to be careful. The irony being that these crashes happened by 'advanced' drivers...

The WRX I heard went off track (2nd lap of the day) just enough to get hooked in the mud which grabbed and flipped it.

Bad day to drive a silver car for sure!

Too bad you didn't get a picture of the vette's license plate... more irony...

Awsome day for me though

Posted by: GTeener Nov 15 2004, 01:17 PM

Proper track line vs not


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Posted by: J P Stein Nov 15 2004, 01:24 PM

I have no problem with lining a course....unless I gotta do it

I do have a problem with constricting entrances & exits. I do have a problem with a sea of cones, lined or no......but as I said, each club does things different and one can get used to anything.

Personally, I like courses that the ought6's like ....lined or no

Posted by: Randal Nov 15 2004, 03:40 PM

What a great picture.

Perfect example of why we have instructors. Notice where the instructors are looking; now look where the drivers are looking.

Classic!

Wish we had the audio!

Posted by: Brad Roberts Nov 15 2004, 04:36 PM

SteveN broke the inside control arm ear on the 21 car. Broke it big time. You can actually see the right rear tire in pics posted here "out of whack" I watched him go around and walked up to the car and asked him straight out: did you break the inside suspension ear ?? It wasnt cracked... it BROKE.

I personally think it cracked several event back..


B

Posted by: Randal Nov 15 2004, 04:43 PM

Thought so....

See Brad, there is more than one driver out there so involved in driving that we don't always feel what is happening to the car.

I checked my rear tires before putting it up on blocks and guess what....there is still rubber there. I wasn't hooked up at the rear and was in automatic to compensate. Wrong control arm setting...

OK Roberts, your right (again)... damn!

Posted by: GTeener Nov 15 2004, 04:44 PM

Ya, I was suprised to see this dramatic picture in our set too. The instructors looks were not lost one either

My instructor was Laura Thompson. She was great. She was telling me to hold my line and stay close to him (469) so when we got to the straight away I could pass him.

Posted by: Martin Baker Nov 15 2004, 04:50 PM

....BU BYE....


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Posted by: Brad Roberts Nov 15 2004, 04:51 PM

Notice the amount of POSITIVE camber in this wheel ?? These Goodyear slicks damn near run "straight up" with little to NO neg. camber. Also.. the tire is tucking in under the car in a left hand turn... NOT good.


B

Posted by: GTeener Nov 15 2004, 04:53 PM

Yeay! Glad someone got the picture of his plates.

Posted by: GTeener Nov 15 2004, 04:57 PM

And actually at the time I don't remember feeling like I was going to hit 469. The camera is playing tricks with the angle.

Here is the follow up picture, where I have to let him go because I can't pass him in the turn and need to wait for his passing signal.


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Posted by: Brad Roberts Nov 15 2004, 05:00 PM

Yes. I have your car cover in my truck Gwen. I pulled it out for you and stuck it in my truck...


B

Posted by: GTeener Nov 15 2004, 05:03 PM

Excellent.


Thanks!

Posted by: Racer Chris Nov 15 2004, 05:04 PM

Well.. I was just teasing.

Having said that I also want to say I do prefer a course without lines. If the cones are set up using a strict protocol there is a challenge getting it right, but still only one correct way. OC (off course) or dnf is part of the game.
The only lines I expect to see are the boxes around the cones.
The only cones I expect to see are the absolute minimum of gates, pivots, pointers and slaloms. There should be no extraneous cones.
The course I see in these pictures seems to violate all the protocols I am used to.
I haven't done an AX in years, and the total I have done is about 20, but I think I could hold my own at any event.
I won the cup shown below on my second run that day, and broke both engine mounts on my third run. Everyone else had about 6 runs to try and beat me (non PCA event). I won the little formula car trophy in a Skip Barber Formula Dodge on a day when everyone was driving one of only 3 nearly identical cars available to us (PCA event).



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Posted by: Randal Nov 15 2004, 05:14 PM

We would love to have you out here for one of our big events Chris and I think you'd enjoy the competition.

Of course it's a long way to come, but who knows maybe you want to see the ocean on this side of the States.

Posted by: Racer Chris Nov 15 2004, 05:28 PM

I was born in Redwood City, but moved away before I could walk. My wife and I drove down the coast to the SF area 12 years ago after being at my youngest brother's wedding on Shaw Island, WA. My older bro lives in San Jose, but we don't talk to each other these days, lol.
My wife is going to be visiting on Shaw I. with my mother next weekend.
I do hope to return to the Bay area again, especially now that I know some people nearby.

Posted by: anthony Nov 15 2004, 05:29 PM

How do you guys feel about courses that intentionally mislead the driver? See the diagram below. This turn was lined in such a way to lead you away from the turn (to the black spot) with no where to go. I didn't get it until I had memorized it.


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Posted by: Part Pricer Nov 15 2004, 05:33 PM

Rookies look at lines. Driver's see the course that is defined by the cones.

I once set up a course that we had outlined so the rookies would not get lost. In one long sweeper, they were jamming on the brakes trying to stay inside the lines. The more experienced drivers were going far over the line so that they could properly drive the course.

Posted by: trekkor Nov 15 2004, 08:26 PM

Great discussion!

Sorry we missed you Randal. You would have been proud.
I was 2 secs off TTOD. Possible top 5?

I think you could of jumped on TTOD yourself.
Perfect course for you.

I like the lines. I use them when looking ahead to set up the next turn. When entering the turn, it's all cone. I'll run right through the lines.

As for the fake out boxed corners, I think it's just run off without DNF or cones area.

KT

Posted by: nebreitling Nov 15 2004, 08:39 PM

damn,, trekkor!

congratulations.

i can see i'll have to really step it up next year to beat you.


for the record, i plan on being in Bx. (yes, with 94mm jugs)

Posted by: Demick Nov 15 2004, 09:10 PM

Nathan: I can't believe you want to take a step down in power. Go with another set of 96's and join me and Andy in Fm!

Demick

Posted by: Mueller Nov 15 2004, 09:28 PM

Demick,

with a 1.8 or 2.0 motor and aftermarket FI, would I still be okay in Fm??

Posted by: trekkor Nov 15 2004, 09:33 PM

Guys, I thought next year we are moving to the points based system elimnating the multitude of classes.

KT

Posted by: nebreitling Nov 15 2004, 09:53 PM

i thought Fm was only D-jet?

in anycase, i plan on making more power with the current 2.0 "mystery motor" than i would with a D-jet'd 2056 (that engine ran strong -- and may again -- but i'm dubious that i had more than 95 hp)

we'll see when i get the new motor tuned (hopefully this weekend).


trek, the point sys is going to be "trial run" concurent with the old system.

Posted by: monkei Nov 15 2004, 10:02 PM

this was my first AX with the powder lines. liked the surface much better than candlestick. awesome day. i was very impressed with the person piloting the yellow 911 that was done up carreraRS style and the girl who was handing out timeslips, when she got a 36.something in her dads yellow sixtysomething 911 (topped her dads best in the same car). 36.328 was my best time in the boxster. (weak!) i cant wait till i fix my 914's front and get it AX ready. didnt have much time other than lunch to check out the big track events. A wrecked corvette and wrx wagon, cant ask for much more. There were some beautiful cars on sunday, i really liked the paint on the brighter green metallic early 911, and i am such a sucker for 550s, kit or not.

as a novice my opinion is that lines kinda take away from the challenge, my first two AX's (1st. marina 2nd. candlestick, this being the 3rd) had no lines. I think a well set up cone course is the way to go. This event had no slalom or open gates. I did get lost at candlestick and got a few DNF's, as it was so wide open and i was hauling ass, but i thought it was a very interesting course, just didnt much like the pavement surface. Marina was probably my favorite so far, of course i was driving a 914 that day. I liked this course but thought it was kind of odd that there were no pointer cones, slaloms, or any sections of track that were anything other than quite obviously defined by both cones and lines. and did it seem to anyone
else that some things were too close to the track? PCA and Andretti trailers for example.

Posted by: trekkor Nov 15 2004, 10:07 PM

I'm not sure what class I'll be in then...Fp, Fx, Fm, Gm

KT


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Posted by: kermit Nov 15 2004, 11:42 PM

Nathan, this is a TOTAL setup. You do not want to be in ANY class near Demick. When he was in Bi (even though he had a cheater motor ), there was NO WAY IN HELL, I was going to protest him and bump him into Bp.

BTW, the new GGR car classification system will only be half implemented. We'll have the current classifications AND the additive points system. So there is a possibility of winning two awards at the end of the year. Note I said awards, not trophies. In the spirit of saving more money to donate to charity, I think we'll be saving a few thousand bucks on trophies and just printing some certificates or something. But I guess it really doesn't matter, its more about the competition right?

Posted by: nebreitling Nov 16 2004, 01:21 AM

i know -- i've seen the man drive !

Posted by: trekkor Nov 16 2004, 01:53 AM

I just noticed in this pic my wheel is lifting again.


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Posted by: monkei Nov 16 2004, 02:40 AM

i saw that wheel lift almost every time you took that turn before the start/finish.

Posted by: nein14-6 Nov 16 2004, 06:09 AM

Brad,
My car does that too in AXs, check out this picture of the other side. I take the sway bars off when I run as well.


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Posted by: Dave_Darling Nov 16 2004, 10:34 AM

The RS-style yellow 911 driver is Larry Sharp. Former 914 pilot, and one helluva driver. Not sure who the father and daughter team are. There are a few I've seen out there, but not usually as teams and none I can remember with an early yellow 911.

--DD

Posted by: Demick Nov 16 2004, 11:22 AM

Fm is the Street Modified category. It is designed as an anything goes but still sort-of street legal category (although plenty of non-street legal cars compete here). So carbs or other induction systems are allowed. Turbos, cams, carbs, wings, brakes, suspension, tires etc etc are all free.

Pretty much do whatever you want, but you need to keep your windows, interior, signals, headlights, etc.

Fm is really not where you want to compete in a stock-ish car. I am waaaayyy outclassed by people like John Seidel. But I don't really care. I do hope they change over to the new points system one of these years.

Demick

Posted by: Demick Nov 16 2004, 11:30 AM

Nathan

Keep in mind that in Bx, you must have a Production legal motor (except carbs are allowed). That means stock displacement, stock compression, and most importantly, a stock cam.

Any compression over 8.0:1 means Br.
A non-stock cam automatically means Fm.

I don't know what your mystery motor is, but it's hard to believe that with stock disp, stock compression, and a stock cam that you are going to make much more than stock power.

Demick

Posted by: nebreitling Nov 16 2004, 11:41 AM

yikes, i didn't realize that demick. thank you!

so everyone in Bp, Bx, Br is running a stock cam?



looks like Fm for me!

Posted by: Demick Nov 16 2004, 11:46 AM

Supposedly.

Of course, as we have proven lately - you don't REALLY know what is in your engine until you tear it apart (unless you built it yourself).

Sometimes ignorance is bliss isn't it?

GGR rules are extremely restrictive when it comes to engine mods.

Demick

Posted by: nebreitling Nov 16 2004, 11:53 AM

rrrright... <_<

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 16 2004, 12:12 PM

i'm not brad, but there are 2 things i can think of right now (with the rear sway bar disconnected) ...

1. not enough suspension travel
2. trailing arm bushings are sticking

look how the tire is still well under the fender. it seems stuck up there.
so either you changed your suspension to a point where it does not have any travel anymore or the trailing arm bushings are sticking and you're fighting your bushings ...

Andy

Posted by: theol00 Nov 16 2004, 12:45 PM

Trekkor - with that exhaust - you'll be in a class of your own!

Posted by: Brad Roberts Nov 16 2004, 02:41 PM

Rob,

Check your inside control arm bushings. That is what goes first on the drivers side control arm. The drivers side ear NEVER breaks unless the car was hit in that side previously. Jack the car up and see if you can move the tire side to side (not top to bottom like checking wheel bearings) I grab it from behind and try to move it side to side. It may require some effort.


B

Posted by: GTeener Nov 16 2004, 03:30 PM

Isn't FM anything up to 2.2 liters?

Posted by: Steve_7x Nov 16 2004, 05:05 PM

As a member of SVR I would like to thank those of you that came out for the event at Infineon - it was great to see such great support.

Many of you may be aware that SVR had a very nice series going back many years running at Mather Air Field. A very large flat lot with surface changes between concrete and asphalt. It was fast and big. Unfortunately a few years back all of the Sacramento area autocross groups could no longer gain access - our last even at Mather was 2 weeks after 9/11.

Frederick (SVR Competition Chair) and Matt (SVR Autocross Chair) are working hard to bring back our series - and as I understand it we have 6 events scheduled (one is a zone event with Yosemite) in Stockton for 2005. I hope many of you will find time to join us for the fun and help us in 2005.

For those not aware, SVR's series focuses on driver education - and we strive to have enough instructors available. I convinced Larry Sharp (yellow RS as seen in the photos above and 2nd overall) to lead a group of novices on a course walk. I am sure we will have similar activities in 2005 - please stay tuned.

As for broken ear for the right rear control arm... that was a new experience for me. In the last several events I was thinking the car was a bit squirly - but I just put it down to colder weather, slick surfaces (Candlestick) - now I am suspecting (as Brad stated above) that my right rear was steering on it own for a while. The photo that Brad posted - indicates how far wrong it was. Looks like repairing #21 will be part of my winter project list.

Hope to see see you next season!

Posted by: Brad Roberts Nov 16 2004, 05:07 PM

Steve,

The 914club will be there for SVR. I'll make sure we drag out a min. of 4-5 cars per event if not more.


B

Posted by: trekkor Nov 16 2004, 07:17 PM

Theo, this is just my test exhaust.

I talked to a club member today who thinks my motor could be 2.2 due to the non-vacuum advance dizzy.
130-180 hp depending on "T" or "S" cams

What a/x class do I fall into from Bp?

KT

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 16 2004, 07:19 PM

FM ...

(if i'm not mistaken)
Andy

Posted by: ppickerell Nov 16 2004, 08:24 PM

I thought that event was run very smoothly and professionally. My family and I will definitely be out to the Stockton events next season. My daughter turns 18 next year and has expressed interest in giving it a try. We may field 4 drivers splitting time between 2 cars.

Posted by: C4FDR Nov 18 2004, 11:30 AM

I'm the PCA-SVR Competition Director and one of the coordinators of the Infineon event held on Sunday. The AutoX Team, Matt Deter, Kerner Breaux, Steve Goltz and myself hope that you had a great time on Sunday. I see some great pictures posted on this forum and I would like some forwarded to me so we can put them in our next PCA-SVR newsletter. Please send them to fdr@fdrmotorsports.com.

I wanted to mention that we have an option to have another autoX at Infineon on Monday January 24th, 2005. At this time I'm conducting a poll to see if we can get enough attendees to run this event.

Our Stockton Fairgrounds AutoX dates for 2005 are as follows:

April 2nd
May 8th
June 4th
September 10th & 11th
October 1st

Please contact Matt Deter at porsche@deter.com if you would like to attend any of these events and also to be added to our notification list.

We plan to have additional AutoX dates at Infineon for 2005.

Thanks,
Frederick D. Rauch
916-989-0580
competition@svr.pca.org

Posted by: Demick Nov 18 2004, 11:37 AM

I'd be in for an Infineon autox in January. Might need rain tires!

Demick

Posted by: Brad Roberts Nov 18 2004, 11:44 AM

WOW. Thanks Fred for posting. You met "our" 914 group in Reno and had lunch with several of us in Truckee. I look forward to attending/running SVR events next year.

I'll call on Friday about the stuff we discussed in front of Ron Cain and company.


B

Posted by: McMark Nov 18 2004, 02:32 PM

I'd be in attendance if there was a Jan Infineon AX. Actually I will be at any Infineon AX.

Posted by: trekkor Nov 20 2004, 02:43 PM

They are from Napa, as well. Roger, I think?
Running Yokohama A032r's , too!
Good racing tire!

I'll go to every a/x at Sears! 20 mins from home, c'mon.

KT