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Posted by: Marv's3.6six Feb 23 2013, 06:08 PM

Hey teeners I am looking to install 4 point harness in my GT. Does anyone know if the harness needs to be DOT approved in Ca.. AFAIK the only DOT choice is Schroth Rally 4 .... Opinons ???? Thanks.

Posted by: Andyrew Feb 23 2013, 06:19 PM

For the streets? Most cops dont care/know. If you were driving a civic ya they would nail you because they want to be a dick, but a classic car/hot rod? Nah they are much more lenient.

I have had a simpson in my car for 10 years.

Posted by: brant Feb 23 2013, 06:24 PM

its probably not technically legal
although I agree that you should be able to get away with it


any harness manufacturer that goes through the trouble of testing and getting certified is going to have labels right on the harness, or big advertising on the product description (and charge a premium since they paid for that certification)

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Feb 23 2013, 07:51 PM

Get a 5 point. A four point is useless an in some cases dangerous.

Posted by: Sneezy Feb 23 2013, 10:20 PM

I think they're more dangerous than a shoulder/lap belt unless you're wearing a Hans Device.

Posted by: Marv's3.6six Feb 23 2013, 11:37 PM

Am considering Schroth Rally which is DOT legal and has ASM (Anti Submarining) which I am told makes them safe(er)

But I started this thread because I was wondering if the PO PO would come down on a brutha for funky belts.

Posted by: strawman Feb 24 2013, 12:17 AM

I got pulled over by CHP in Monterey County on Route 1 about five years ago in my old MR2. He said he saw the factory shoulder belt wasn't hooked up and decided to pull me over. When I showed him I had my 4-pt harness on, he said it technically isn't DOT-approved and gave me a ticket.

Posted by: ArtechnikA Feb 24 2013, 07:05 AM

Yes, the Schroth is the only company that's bothered to get the full DOT certification. RoadGlue here got such a ticket, took his documentation with him to fight the ticket and won.

They're good belts too.

With the full 6-point attachment I expect they're still legal, and much safer.

Posted by: Luke M Feb 24 2013, 08:42 AM

I know that here per the NYS V&TL it has to be what the manufacture originally installed at the factory. It will also fail the yearly NYS inspection if the OEM belts are removed. A aftermarket harness can be installed but the oem belts must stay in place and be used on the road.
I'm not sure how the CA inspection works or if you guys even have to get one?
I'm sure if CA is anything like NYS they will want the oem belts installed.

Posted by: ArtechnikA Feb 24 2013, 08:54 AM

California ia a lot like NYS - but not in this regard ;-)
No annual 'safety' inspections - just biennial emissions for some years.

Curious - if I'm having a pre-'62 inspected in NYS - do I have to take my belts out ?

Posted by: Luke M Feb 24 2013, 09:02 AM

" per the NYS V&TL it has to be what the manufacture originally installed at the factory " .

If no belts from the factory then you're ok but if there was it better be there.