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Posted by: seanery Nov 18 2004, 04:38 PM

Can some of you folks go to http://www.2yellow.com and click over to the graphics page and play the video. It is a streaming WMV file. It buffered quickly for me, but I would like to make sure that it starts relatively quickly for all.

Thanks!
-sean

Posted by: rick 918-S Nov 18 2004, 04:45 PM

Nothing clickable to play a video. It could just be me... You know... me and computers....

edit: I found the video under graphic design not under video production. Really cool.

Posted by: Meredith Nov 18 2004, 04:59 PM

It's been about 4 minutes and it's only 41% buffered. Could just be my computer?

Posted by: sj914 Nov 18 2004, 05:09 PM

My computer downloaded the whole file before it played.

Posted by: dlo914 Nov 18 2004, 05:10 PM

quite a large file, but instead of having it upload as a temp file i downloaded the file onto my computer instead and played it off of Windows Media. 2words GOOD JOB

Posted by: Jeroen Nov 18 2004, 05:13 PM

Hey Sean,

Very impressive clip!

IMHO, it might be better to make it clear what visitors are going to expect
Mine didn't start playing automatically until the entire video was downloaded, which takes a while
Others may not be as patient, specially if they don't know exactly what they're waiting for
Might be a good idea to add a page which just simply displays the logo's you've been showing in the vid as well.

Posted by: Jeroen Nov 18 2004, 05:16 PM

Oh... one more thing...
No offence, but the website doesn't look near as good/professional as the work you guys pull off
In your line of work, that'd be a big no-no

(yeah, I know, always a critic. But I mean it to be constructive )

Posted by: ematulac Nov 18 2004, 05:16 PM

Firefox downloaded the whole thing first. Took about 3 minutes.

IE took a while to find it ... buffered about 20% of it then started playing while the rest downloaded.

Very slick video, by the way!

Posted by: azbill Nov 18 2004, 05:20 PM

Down loaded in about 30 sec or less using a fiber optic setup. the vido look good

Posted by: spare time toys Nov 18 2004, 05:22 PM

No problems it loaded and started with out a hitch. Not much of a story but I cried when they shot the dog

Posted by: aircooledboy Nov 18 2004, 05:22 PM

I've got DSL here at the office. I let it buffer 5%, then hit play, it didn't catch up to the buffer until about 1/2 through the video, and then it locked up. Did it again, allowing allowing 15% to buffer (took about 30 sec.s) before hitting play, made it all the way through that way.

Nice presentation, but I got all excited when I saw "Hilton" thinking something "special" might be coming up.

Posted by: ! Nov 18 2004, 05:23 PM

Started right up for me....I saw MUELLER on it.....weeeeeeeeee

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 18 2004, 05:27 PM

4:36 before it started playing, it had buffered 66% at that time and the whole clip played smooth while it was downloading the rest ...

pretty nice clip, how big is it in size?
Andy

Posted by: seanery Nov 18 2004, 05:29 PM

Thanks guys!

Jeroen, don't even get me started on the webpage...

So, it buffered for some and not for others...interesting...gotta think about this some.

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 18 2004, 05:30 PM

the site needs work!

Andy

Posted by: seanery Nov 18 2004, 05:30 PM

Andy,
I think it's 24 megs.
I tried some other codecs but wasn't happy with the image quality, so I ended up with a 24 meg file, which isn't too bad because most folks have broadband of some sort.

Posted by: Pnambic Nov 18 2004, 05:42 PM

The buffering issue is more a client side issue than server side. I think it just depends on the way a person has their computer set up. In Media Player, you can go to Tools --> Options --> Performance and set the buffer however you like it. I don't know if there's a way to override that.

Posted by: tommy914 Nov 18 2004, 05:45 PM

I guess I'm a little late.
But anyway. it started right up for me.
I'm on cable (time warner) and using windows media player 9 under windows 98.
64Mb geforce 2 video.
256MB ram, P4 1.7

there was some slight popping in some of the audio, almost sounded like an old LP. could be my cheap on board audio, but I haven't noticed it while playing any other music.

Otherwise, it looked and sounded great.

Posted by: Meredith Nov 18 2004, 05:47 PM

It finished buffering soon after, but it wasn't playing.

Then I rememberd to press the "play" button.

Posted by: Mrs. K Nov 18 2004, 06:13 PM

be careful Mer, Howard will call you "blonde" again!

Lisa

Posted by: GWN7 Nov 18 2004, 06:26 PM

It took just over 3 min to load here. Looked good.

Posted by: Gint Nov 18 2004, 07:25 PM

Took me 5 minutes to download, but my Sprint Wireless was never the fastest. I haven't viewed it yet. Obviously since I downloaded first, buffering won't be an issue anyway. And I believe that (download or stream) is pretty much a browser config issue.

Posted by: seanery Nov 18 2004, 07:37 PM

OK, I'm gonna need some more help here. Since you all say our web page sucks (it does) it's time for me to do it and fix the mess. This is what I would like it to look like. The text will roll over as the "Video Production" shows. I would like all of the action to take place inside the ring where the YELLOW logo is now. Can I do that without Flash? (cuz I don't know it) Any other ideas?

Thanks again!
-sean


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Posted by: SirAndy Nov 18 2004, 07:44 PM

you could cut it in frames (or use a ! !) ...

BUT, frames are always rectangles, so you would have to compromise some of the area inside the circle ...

i HATE all flash web-sites ...
<_< Andy

Posted by: Pnambic Nov 18 2004, 08:15 PM

Using CSS, you can layer the items on the page. That would allow you to use slightly larger rectangles for the info in the middle as the corners could be hidden behind the ring. Only problem with CSS right now is the really cool CSS features aren't supported the same in each of the browsers. So it might take good deal of tweaking.

Oughta be a fun project though!

Posted by: seanery Nov 18 2004, 08:16 PM

I saw something about CSS in GoLive and in the source code on that web page you sent me to.

What the hell is CSS?

Posted by: Tom Perso Nov 18 2004, 08:22 PM

Mine started playing after about 10secs of buffering.

Media Player 10 on XPSP2, GeForce video on an 1.8Ghz, 768mb of RAM.

I heard the popping as well in the codec, probably just encoding.

Looks great though! I work closely with streaming media at work, we Multicast across a WAN (now THAT's FUN and pisses off the Telecomm guys to no end).

later,
Tom

Posted by: redshift Nov 18 2004, 08:23 PM

AEEEEEEEEEEIIIII!!!! MY EYES!!!!!!!!



Nice buddy! It buffers ok for me, I did have a doodad at :59, and @ 3:41 for a second... but nice job.


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Posted by: Pnambic Nov 18 2004, 08:32 PM

CSS = Cascading Style Sheets

First designed to facilitate the easy managment of fonts and color schemes and stuff. It was later developed into a much more flexible and powerful tool controlling darn near everything. It can cntrol the entire layout of a page down to the pixel (a lot better then tables) but its not as well supported. DOH!

Posted by: Jeroen Nov 18 2004, 08:38 PM

The circle looks very cool. Should be fun to work it out.

Having said that, write your content first. Think about what you wanna show on your site and build the layout around that

It's easier (and you usually gets better results) if you do it that way then trying to fit your content into something that looks cool (but is a PITA for your visitors to browse around on)

Posted by: seanery Nov 18 2004, 09:03 PM

the content won't change for now. No one wants to write anything, so we're stuck with what we have but presenting it in a better fashion.

Posted by: redshift Nov 18 2004, 09:28 PM

Same way Porsche model development worked for nearly 40 years Sean.




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Posted by: seanery Nov 18 2004, 09:49 PM

testing...gif version


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Posted by: seanery Nov 19 2004, 12:00 AM

Just because it isn't complicated enough already.
I want the user to be able to switch at any time between the black chrome background or the yellow chrome background. I think I have this one licked...but the other main part is tricky, although I am confident tomorrow will be fruitful...

this is the yellow chrome.


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Posted by: Howard Nov 19 2004, 12:40 AM

Buffered and played fine for me, but there was a ghost in the video. My machine?

Posted by: hargray2 Nov 19 2004, 12:53 AM

Started playing after 12 secs. and finished downloading way before the video ended.
I heard the popping in the audio too.

Posted by: rick 918-S Nov 19 2004, 01:07 AM

I love the circle idea. It looks like a fish eye lens. (camera lens) Is that what you were after? Cool.

Posted by: Jeroen Nov 19 2004, 09:04 PM

Sean, I like the first circle best, because the "Yellow" logo has the best contrast in that one
The second still has some contrast, but it doesn't make the logo stand out as good as the first one.
The third hardly has any contrast with the "yellow" logo and therefore focus on the logo is lost.

As much as I like the look of the background effect, it takes attention away from the logo. Not good IMO

Beyond that, it would be a PITA to put content/text over a background like that (readability would be crap)

For web-design, I always go with the rule: less is more, simple is good

Just my € 0,02

cheers,

Jeroen

Posted by: redshift Nov 19 2004, 09:23 PM

Damn, Jeroen.... advice is cheaper for you... you only needed to throw out 1.65 cents..





I din't mean to say damn!


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