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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ hood props/trunk props for carbon fiber lids

Posted by: kresdon999 Mar 23 2013, 10:00 PM

bought a 914-6 conversion with Carbon Fiber front and rear lids- need some help with some aftermarket strut/prop suggestions. The previous owner cut off a fiberglass rod and put a pivot on one end and a rubber cap on the other-but it only supports one side and isn't a very satisfactory setup. The rear trunk lid has nothing-the stock spring arrangement would be WAY too much for the super light lid-so I have to hold up by my head while trying to stow the top-VERY annoying. Help!?!Attached Image

Posted by: dfelz Mar 23 2013, 11:39 PM

can we see more pics of these lids, they look sexy as hell!

Posted by: brant Mar 23 2013, 11:44 PM

sticks...
like you have in front
or reinstall metal lids and put springs back on.

Posted by: Dasnowman Mar 23 2013, 11:53 PM

QUOTE(dfelz @ Mar 23 2013, 10:39 PM) *

can we see more pics of these lids, they look sexy as hell!



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More photo's of said hood needed and where did you pick them up from?

I know someone on here does gas struts for hoods and know they do a light duty one as well for f/g or C/F hoods!

I favorite everything I think that is cool or info I will need for the 914 at a later date let me have a look around!

Posted by: Rand Mar 24 2013, 12:00 AM

Getty Design makes premium body parts and they work with CF. Their web site only shows fiberglass hoods for the 914, but I'm pretty sure they do them in carbon too.

If you are ok with fabricating you can find gas shocks from something at a pick-n-pull, just gotta find some very light duty ones.

If you want a kit like mentioned above, go to Craig at Camp914.

Posted by: wndsrfr Mar 24 2013, 06:53 AM

Here's what Josh put on Kermee.....you can get the strongarm cylinders at Autozone and I'm guessing the universal mounts as well.....

They measure 18 1/2 inches from center to center of mount pins when extended.......12 inches compressed....

Last time I priced the struts they were about $25 each....


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Posted by: wndsrfr Mar 24 2013, 06:55 AM

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Here's what Josh put on Kermee.....you can get the strongarm cylinders at Autozone and I'm guessing the universal mounts as well.....

mounts.......


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Posted by: scotty b Mar 24 2013, 08:19 AM

the problem you're going to have, is that more than likely any off the shelf NEW strut is going to have too much pressure for a galss or CF lid. Try finding a 944, with worn out struts. Those need a lot of pressure due to the weight of the glass. When they wear to the point they won't hold the hatch up, they are still good for a light duty aplication like these lids. I may a have a few worn ones you can have for the shipping cost if you want

Posted by: kresdon999 Mar 24 2013, 11:19 AM

QUOTE(dfelz @ Mar 24 2013, 01:39 AM) *

can we see more pics of these lids, they look sexy as hell!

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Posted by: kresdon999 Mar 24 2013, 11:35 AM

QUOTE(Dasnowman @ Mar 24 2013, 01:53 AM) *

QUOTE(dfelz @ Mar 23 2013, 10:39 PM) *

can we see more pics of these lids, they look sexy as hell!



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More photo's of said hood needed and where did you pick them up from?

I know someone on here does gas struts for hoods and know they do a light duty one as well for f/g or C/F hoods!

I favorite everything I think that is cool or info I will need for the 914 at a later date let me have a look around!

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Posted by: sixnotfour Mar 24 2013, 11:36 AM

just trying to help, they are really hard to capture beerchug.gif


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Posted by: kresdon999 Mar 24 2013, 11:40 AM

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Posted by: Elliot Cannon Mar 24 2013, 12:38 PM

I believe Camp914 has them for steel and light weight trunk lids both. I will soon be installing fiberglass lids and will use a simple steel or aluminum rod as a prop.

Posted by: kresdon999 Mar 24 2013, 12:56 PM

QUOTE(Dasnowman @ Mar 24 2013, 01:53 AM) *

QUOTE(dfelz @ Mar 23 2013, 10:39 PM) *

can we see more pics of these lids, they look sexy as hell!



thisthreadisworthlesswithoutpics.gif




More photo's of said hood needed and where did you pick them up from?

I know someone on here does gas struts for hoods and know they do a light duty one as well for f/g or C/F hoods!

I favorite everything I think that is cool or info I will need for the 914 at a later date let me have a look around!

they were on the car when I bought it- prior owner said his club bought a batch of them to get a discount

Posted by: ArtechnikA Mar 24 2013, 01:22 PM

Go to GolfSmith.com and buy a carbon fibre club shaft.
Putter shafts tend to be shorter and cheaper, irons in the middle, woods quite long. I use a putter shaft for my 911's engine lid. I think it's a little short for the front trunk.

Posted by: tadink Mar 24 2013, 01:49 PM

I used the front springs on their lightest setting for my CF front lid - it works great. so far.

For the rear - I'm eager to hear what the group comes up with - holding the lid up with your head while putting the roof in is a RPIA! I've got the steel rear lid which is surprisingly heavy - cannot wait to change that out to CF as well.

I found my CF front lid on the local Craigslist in SF! lol

keep those ideas flowing - I like the 'kermee' solution best so far!

td

Posted by: Dasnowman Mar 24 2013, 11:48 PM

QUOTE(Rand @ Mar 23 2013, 11:00 PM) *

Getty Design makes premium body parts and they work with CF. Their web site only shows fiberglass hoods for the 914, but I'm pretty sure they do them in carbon too.

If you are ok with fabricating you can find gas shocks from something at a pick-n-pull, just gotta find some very light duty ones.

If you want a kit like mentioned above, go to Craig at Camp914.



Yup that's the ones I was thinking of!

http://www.camp914.com/products/shox.html

Posted by: BIGKAT_83 Mar 25 2013, 12:07 AM

I used these nascar hood props. It hinges in the middle and puts no force on the trunk lid at all.
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Posted by: ChrisNPDrider Mar 25 2013, 01:34 PM

I use a wooden walking stick to prop my CF lids open.
That "nascar" prop from BIG KAT is awesome. Now I want those!
I bought the Camp 914 light shocks and they sit awaiting the day I can install them.
The wood walking stick prop works great beerchug.gif

Posted by: tadink Mar 25 2013, 01:38 PM

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I used these nascar hood props. It hinges in the middle and puts no force on the trunk lid at all.
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ooooooohhhhhhh

I want it
I want it
I want it
I want it

WHERE do you get those? I go past Sears Point all the time - I wonder if the speed shop has those things....soooooo cool.

td

Posted by: d914 Mar 25 2013, 02:04 PM

try ebay.. used race parts.. Thats where I got some..

Posted by: dlkawashima Mar 25 2013, 02:24 PM

Picture below of a guy in central California with an ultralight 914. I seem to recall another 914 that had a V shaped trunk lid support that swung down from the lid, but I can't find a picture of it at the moment.

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Posted by: BIGKAT_83 Mar 25 2013, 02:50 PM

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try ebay.. used race parts.. Thats where I got some..

And here are yours....Just walked out and picked them up in your trunk.
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Posted by: tadink Mar 25 2013, 05:54 PM

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Picture below of a guy in central California with an ultralight 914. I seem to recall another 914 that had a V shaped trunk lid support that swung down from the lid, but I can't find a picture of it at the moment.

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HMMMMM - - -

so what are the cables going from the trunk release to the pop-up lights? Some clever version of the no-motor light actuation?

(and -wow- what a clean car! Is *that* what it looks like under all the dirt!)

td

Posted by: kresdon999 Mar 25 2013, 06:17 PM

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I used these nascar hood props. It hinges in the middle and puts no force on the trunk lid at all.
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Where can I get those? AWESOME solution!

Posted by: BIGKAT_83 Mar 25 2013, 07:01 PM

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They are on Ebay all the time look for NASCAR hood props. There are many sellers that have Ebay stores that sell nascar take off parts. I got mine in Mooresville NC at a shop.

Bob

Posted by: sixnotfour Mar 27 2013, 05:33 PM

heres mine, recycled airplane part.. driving.gif


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Posted by: sixnotfour Mar 27 2013, 05:35 PM

unlocked and what it started as.. beer3.gif


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Posted by: JmuRiz Mar 27 2013, 05:58 PM

That is cool!
The fold-down prop rod above (white car) is cool as well.

Posted by: GeorgeRud Mar 27 2013, 08:07 PM

McMaster-Carr has these pneumatic struts and fittings in a variety of sizes and pressures. I don't know the dimensions of the Camp914 kit, but he may have light pressure struts available.

Posted by: sixnotfour Mar 27 2013, 08:13 PM

low pressure , It has to have enough to hold hood up, pressure which is a difficult formula.....mine lift it locks....lower it lift and slide sleeve down....no pressure, positive... Yup I like mine....smile.gif

Posted by: d914 Mar 28 2013, 12:26 PM

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Billet-Car-Hood-Prop,1556.html

Posted by: raynekat Mar 18 2015, 11:35 AM

http://www.rothsport.com/Products/Chassis/Chassis-Products-964-993-Hood-Prop-Rod.htm

I've got a couple of these on my lightweight 911.
Should work great on these lightweight lids for the 914 as well.

They have a Porsche part no. as they were used on 993 RS's....so maybe there is a cool factor with this part as well?

Posted by: stugray Mar 18 2015, 11:53 AM

QUOTE(BIGKAT_83 @ Mar 25 2013, 02:50 PM) *

QUOTE(d914 @ Mar 25 2013, 04:04 PM) *

try ebay.. used race parts.. Thats where I got some..

And here are yours....Just walked out and picked them up in your trunk.
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You could make a set of those with some 1/4" Aluminum plate, a couple hole saws and a jigsaw.
I have a new project now :-)

Posted by: d914 Mar 18 2015, 02:36 PM

carbon fiber arrow, heim joint, vacuum rubber cap..

Posted by: screenguy914 Mar 21 2015, 02:46 PM

We have offered a carbon fiber support tube for 911s for quite awhile. Eric, one of our forum admins., adapted one to his 914-6 a few years ago. Depending on method of attachment of the rod end to the chassis (or?), different hardware is needed.

If there's enough demand, we can make a 914-specific kit.

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Sherwood
www.seinesystems

Posted by: rnellums Mar 21 2015, 06:11 PM

That looks great! I'm in for one.

Posted by: JmuRiz Mar 21 2015, 07:48 PM

Price estimate would help some decide, very cool prop rod! If I go f'glass or CF, I'd get one.

Posted by: Chris Pincetich Mar 21 2015, 07:53 PM

I used a wood walking stick my grandfather gave me as a hood prop when I had carbon fiber lids. Worked great for over 4 years beerchug.gif

Posted by: partwerks Mar 21 2015, 10:28 PM

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We have offered a carbon fiber support tube for 911s for quite awhile. Eric, one of our forum admins., adapted one to his 914-6 a few years ago. Depending on method of attachment of the rod end to the chassis (or?), different hardware is needed.

If there's enough demand, we can make a 914-specific kit.

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Sherwood
www.seinesystems


You would have thought they would have spot welded on a short piece of tubing on the hood, cut at the correct angle, that the prop would have fit into, to keep it from moving.

At least that is what I am doing on mine.

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