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Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Nov 19 2004, 10:43 PM

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=75979&item=4505635195&rd=1


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Posted by: ws91420 Nov 19 2004, 10:47 PM

If I remember right the GT's had solid non-removeable roofs.

Posted by: Qarl Nov 19 2004, 10:49 PM

No.. you're thinking of the 916

Posted by: JOHNMAN Nov 19 2004, 11:00 PM

I am not sure anyone will be able to tell if it is a "real" GT or simply one that looks like GT (except with the 916 front shell) without the VIN and knowledge of which VIN's were actually "real" GT's.

From what I gather, it is an overpriced flared 914 that appears to come with a 3.2 RSR motor???

From what I have read, the GT's had a light weight, bolt on roof. The 916's were supposed to have a steel roof welded in place (that would take a lot of fun out of the car IMHO).

You aren't actually thinking of bidding on that are you???

Posted by: Bleyseng Nov 19 2004, 11:22 PM

tranlation:
PORSCHE 914-6 GT easy building RSR MOTOR

OFFER YET IS FORMED A UNIT MUST A 914-6 GT OF THAT BECOMING. COMPLETELY CAR BODY RESTORED WITHOUT ENDLACK.

MORE EXTREMELY easy building AFTER GT SPECIFICATION REINFORCES.

FOLLOWING PARTS EXISTENCE END of carbon aces:

DOORS ALL THREE HOODS

BUMPER AHEAD U. BEHIND ARMATURENBRETT(911)

Floodlight cover between sheet metal

-------------------------------------.

LEICHTBAUANFERTIGUNG SPECIAL ROOF

COMPLETE SPARE PARTS ARE NEW Z: B: WINGS SUSPENSION STRUTS

(BEHIND ALU) cable trees WAAGEBALKENPEDALERIE

SECHSPUNKTGURTE RENNSITZE USW......

MOTOR TOTALLY 3.2 LTR RSR, MECHANICAL INJECTION NEWLY CONSTRUCTED CA. 295 HP. SUITABLE TRANSMISSION.



CAR CAN SEE BECOMING!

Joke bidder BECOMING OF MEINEM LAWYER PURSUES

AND IN THE BETRUGSFALL OF THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE INDICATED.

Purchase sum MUST WITHIN 7 MAN-DAYS ON MEINEM

ACCOUNT CREDITED BE.

Posted by: Jeroen Nov 19 2004, 11:23 PM

I'm no GT expert but the only real GT-anything in the ad appear to be the price unsure.gif

After all, if you were restoring a real GT, would you use a carbon fiber 911 style dash?
Or anything carbon fiber for that matter?
Or a 916 front bumper?
Or anything but an original engine/tranny?
Don't think so...

What about the claim he has aluminium rear trailing arms?

There's absolutely nothing in this ad that even remotely points to the fact this car is a real GT
So I seriously doubt it...

I think he should be very happy if het gets €30K
If the chassis is at least an original 6 and depending on who build the engine and exact engine/tranny specs

Posted by: Jeroen Nov 19 2004, 11:32 PM

Geoff, nice try biggrin.gif

Here's a better version:

PORSCHE 914-6 GT LIGHTWEIGHT RSR MOTOR

Offering a 914-6 GT that needs to be finished. Completly restorated body, needs final paint.
Extreme lightweight build, reinforced to GT specs.
Next parts are made of carbon fiber:
Doors
All 3 hoods
Bumpers fr+rr
Dash (911 style)
Headlight covers
ZWISCHENBLECH (no idea what he means by that)
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Special lightweight roof

Complete replacement parts are new:
Suspension arms, struts (rear aluminium), wiring loom, double master cilinder pedal cluster
6 point harness, racing seats, etc.

Engine completly rebuild. 3.2 RSR mechanical injection, about 295 bhp
Fitting gearbox

It's possible to go see the car.

Fun bidders will be dealt with by my attorny
Scammers will be prosecuted by the DA
Winning bid must be transfered to my bank account within 7 days

Posted by: redshift Nov 19 2004, 11:48 PM

QUOTE(Jeroen @ Nov 20 2004, 01:32 AM)
ZWISCHENBLECH (no idea what he means by that)

ZWISCHENBLECH

ZWIS, Expensive..

CHEN, expletive verb; previously rusty, at once rust beyond all comprehension, the time after rusted beyond belief..

BLECH, puke, to puke...



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Posted by: Jeroen Nov 19 2004, 11:54 PM

Zwischenblech is litterally a piece of sheetmetal that goes between sumptin
But the big Q is... between what?

Posted by: redshift Nov 19 2004, 11:59 PM

The owner, und seine mappe.

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Posted by: MarkV Nov 20 2004, 12:39 AM

Kind of pricey for a unique fixxer-upper. ohmy.gif

EUR 73.000,00

Posted by: Gustl Nov 20 2004, 02:34 AM

I expressed my first thoughts to this offer at an other http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=20654&hl= a couple of hours before cool_shades.gif

for this price, you could by the http://autoatlanta.com/carsales/9146/9141430415/9141430415.html at AA


btw -

QUOTE
The 916's were supposed to have a steel roof welded in place (that would take a lot of fun out of the car IMHO).
could anyone explain the meaning of IMHO? I've seen it here several times, not knowing it's meaning ... unsure.gif


I'll aks the seller for the VIN - if I get an answer I'll post it here ...

Gustl

Posted by: redshift Nov 20 2004, 02:36 AM

In My Humble Opinion... I never use it, I have no humble opinion.

smile.gif

Darn! I am just not getting any sleep.



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Posted by: ChrisReale Nov 20 2004, 03:16 AM

QUOTE(redshift @ Nov 20 2004, 12:36 AM)

Darn! I am just not getting any sleep.



M

Maybe the coffee in the IV drip bag has something to do with this? laugh.gif

Posted by: davep Nov 20 2004, 07:00 AM

Need to know the VIN, and any racing history. There were a lot of cars converted to GT's privately. A lot of them we don't know the VIN, but the racing history would help a lot. For that kind of price one would expect a fully documented history. I'd like to follow up on this for sure.

From what I can see, it does look legit. That is the reinforced roof. Hardly ever get to see photos of it in that position. More detail photos would help. It does look that it was an original six, but with all the work done to it anything is possible.

Posted by: michel richard Nov 20 2004, 07:04 AM

My undrstanding, although others are sure to know much better, is that the 914/6 GT had the fiberglass roof with some sort of steel reinforcement and fixtures that allowed the roof to be bolted to the frame at the four corners. As such, it would hav been removable, but only with the use of a wrench.

The 916, on the other hand, had a steel roof welded to the frame. From the outside, there was no break in the steel or the paint between the windshield frame and the steel painted roof.

My .02

Michel Richard
914 2.2E MFI

Posted by: davep Nov 20 2004, 07:06 AM

Perfectly correct Michel.

Posted by: Bleyseng Nov 20 2004, 08:55 AM

916


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Posted by: mskala Nov 20 2004, 11:49 AM

That does not look like a GT roof. The GT roof looked
like this


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Posted by: Eric_Shea Nov 20 2004, 12:40 PM

I agree... GT's had cross-braced roofs as in the picture above.

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 20 2004, 12:46 PM

QUOTE(mskala @ Nov 20 2004, 10:49 AM)
That does not look like a GT roof. The GT roof looked
like this

agree.gif unless we can have the VIN i'd say this is just a 914 with flares ...

<_< Andy

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