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Posted by: Series9 Nov 22 2004, 03:24 AM

Is there any chance of having a spell/grammar checker on this site?

I'm really sorry, but you guys should at least try to type the English language correctly.

I fully understand the occasional type-o, but come on, at least try to speak the language.

We have European members who speak (type) better English (American) than most of you cheap bastards.

Don't hate me for bringing this up, but it's starting to wear me down. cool_shades.gif


Seeing tires spelled tiars makes me headbang.gif

Posted by: Gustl Nov 22 2004, 03:29 AM

agree.gif

Posted by: J P Stein Nov 22 2004, 03:46 AM

Would "tyres" suit you or do insist on the American "tires".

For all I care, you can bang your haid against a wall till your brains leak out.

Posted by: Series9 Nov 22 2004, 03:51 AM

QUOTE(J P Stein @ Nov 22 2004, 02:46 AM)
Would "tyres" suit you or do insist on the American "tires".

For all I care, you can bang your haid against a wall till your brains leak out.

Oh good, making friends. That's what I was hoping for (dangling preposition, sorry).

BTW, I insist on American 'tires'.

Posted by: J P Stein Nov 22 2004, 03:57 AM

BTW, is f'ing a wurd? biggrin.gif

I'm afraid I'm a big offender here. I try to have some fun with the language....is it their, they're, or there. Some use it interchangibly.... you're or your. There's more, but what the hell, tain't nuthin' to git all worked up..... over.

Posted by: Series9 Nov 22 2004, 04:01 AM

QUOTE(J P Stein @ Nov 22 2004, 02:57 AM)
.is it their, they're, or there. Some use it interchangibly.... you're or your.

Consider my chain yanked. cool.gif

Posted by: J P Stein Nov 22 2004, 04:10 AM

I'll tell you what. In respect to Gustl B (if that's his real name), when adressing him directly, I'll use proper English....maybe even speel ( I can't quit, I'm hooked w00t.gif ) the words correctly. Best I can do.
I even went back and corrected 2 fat fingers in this post.

I'll even appologize for my rude response.....sorry bout that shit laugh.gif
Don't let your brains leak out, BTDT.

Posted by: scott thacher Nov 22 2004, 04:11 AM

i am very guilty, i type one handed and spell very badly

in school i learned the whole word method (which sucks) and was deaf till age three, so i was way behind in reading and writing till 5th grade. now for the scary part at age 17 i had an iq of 165, which put me at a 98 percentile. so i am living proof you get more stupid with age.

and better brains leaking than oil spank.gif

happy jp i fixed it

Posted by: J P Stein Nov 22 2004, 04:16 AM

QUOTE(scott thacher @ Nov 22 2004, 02:11 AM)
i am very guilty, i type one handed and spell very badly

in school i learned the whole word method (which sucks) and was deaf till age three, so i was way behind in reading and writing till 5th grade. now for the scary part at age 17 i had an iq of 165, which put me at a 98 percentile. so i am living proof you get stupider with age.

and better brains leaking than oil spank.gif

Ok, knuckle down....."more stupid" is proper usage. wink.gif

Posted by: Jeroen Nov 22 2004, 04:43 AM

waar gaat dit over confused24.gif

Posted by: SpecialK Nov 22 2004, 05:06 AM

QUOTE(914RS @ Nov 22 2004, 01:24 AM)
We have European members who speak (type) better English (American) than most of you cheap bastards.


Cheap bastards?!

Hey, I resemble that remark biggrin.gif

Joe....here is some recommended reading by Dr. Richard Carlson:

"Don't Sweat the Small Stuff....And it's All Small Stuff" beer.gif

http://www.enotalone.com/books/0786881852.html

Mis-spelled words stick out like a sore thumb to me too, but I try to save my headbang.gif for working on my cars, plenty of that to be had!

Someone awhile back posted (or I received an email) a document that had every word in it mis-spelled, except for the first and last letter of each word (I better not post it, you may have an aneurysm wink.gif ). You could read it perfectly. Strange how the brain works. idea.gif


Kevin

Posted by: Joe Ricard Nov 22 2004, 06:38 AM

Ya'll IS perfectly acceptable. If'n you live round here.

All Ya'll is everyone out out there in 914world.com

and "judge he really needed a kilin" is a perfectly acceptable excuse.

If I mispell something it is because my my brain is 2 steps ahead of my fingers. Sometimes I do go back and edit. But I always spell BOOBS right..

Posted by: 914Timo Nov 22 2004, 07:55 AM

QUOTE
I'm afraid I'm a big offender here. I try to have some fun with the language....


biggrin.gif And you do JP, but I have to say that sometimes it is VERY hard to understand you. Or even what you have wrote about.

Ok, maybe it is just me. My English is not too good. It is my second language. Sometimes I feel shame I can not write like JP and others. I am a little afraid my comments may sounds "different" because I can not write them in the "cool" way. I can write the English only in the way they taught me in the school. Sorry. sad.gif

But, I do understand most of all the posts here. It doesn´t bother me if somebody don´t use the language correctly and I don´t understand all. I´ll ask if I want to understand something better.

But, the reason I like this site so much is the pictures. I usually do understand them all. Even those sended by JP. Oh, and most of the Andy´s too w00t.gif

I like especially project pictures. We have cold winter and lots of snow right now here in Finland. It really cheers me up to see what you are doing there. So, keep on sending lots of 914 pics aktion035.gif

Posted by: Qarl Nov 22 2004, 07:58 AM

Instead of a spell checker, consider a prescription for antidepressants to treat 914RS's Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. w00t.gif

This is a kar forum (garage), not the Harvurd English Department

Posted by: qa1142 Nov 22 2004, 08:24 AM

Ok, So I cannot f-n spell.

I have never been able to spell.

But i can turn a wrench with the best of you! so.... pissoff.gif

Posted by: Bruce Allert Nov 22 2004, 08:24 AM

I spells & writes like I talks dependant upon mah moods.
Grown in L A, partial raised in So. Cal & Orygun, cruised the SE NE & Mid west fer a years & lived 6 years in Nort Dakota gave me a linguistical aptatude that spans Texas cool.gif

I loves it & am havin' fun...... prolly beerchug.gif

.....b

Posted by: Bleyseng Nov 22 2004, 08:29 AM

I like it that JP types funny....between Miles and him I get lots of laughs.
Atleast JP donttypewithall thewordsruntogether nor USES FREAKING CAPS.


Geoff

Posted by: seanery Nov 22 2004, 08:39 AM

I agree with Joe on this. The "spelled wrong for emphasis" don't bother me, but damn people, just proofread your posts and you'll find lots of goofs.

Posted by: Rockaria Nov 22 2004, 08:54 AM

If correct Spelling and gramer were the new Law in Forum Town on the internet, It would be a very quite place indeed.

unsure.gif

And all of you that demand us all to be perfect.... you will now HAVE to be perfect in every way all the time because your posts will now be scrutinized.

And by the way... How can a site that has this pissoff.gif as a main smilie have members that demand perfection?

Posted by: rick 918-S Nov 22 2004, 08:57 AM

idea.gif ......nope, not gunna doit... our president doesn't even speak proper english. nope not gunna do it. Anyone want a coaster? wouldn't want any rings on the work bench.... idea.gif

Posted by: skline Nov 22 2004, 09:00 AM

I was a top speller in school, my most common mistake is when I type too fast, mostly when I type the, it seems to come out teh a lot. Many times I will read someones post and see a word not used correctly and think he just didnt proofread his post. Some are more obvious. It is however, just a forum where many people just type and dont think about what they say or how they say it. Cant we all just get along??

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 22 2004, 09:51 AM

QUOTE(914RS @ Nov 22 2004, 01:24 AM)
Is there any chance of having a spell/grammar checker on this site?

too difficult to code/implement ...

if i post longer posts, i always type them in outlook, use that spell-checker and then copy & paste the results in here ...

werks for me as i always have outlook open when i start up my puter ...
rolleyes.gif Andy

Posted by: Qarl Nov 22 2004, 09:52 AM

YOu can always go and edut your own posts.

If you find a mistake, go back and edit it.

If not, I don't kare!

Look at the edit button on the top right corner of your post.

Posted by: Mark Henry Nov 22 2004, 10:01 AM

You yanks don't know proper English anyways.

It's colour, not color
Z is pronounced Zed, not Zee
it's a chesterfield, not a couch
Wash is not pronounced "warsh" (take a look no "r" in wash)
It's hydro, not electricity....well ok, that's our bad

Spell check pisses me off, it should have TWO English versions...US English and proper English.

And most of all it's G'day, eh.....not howdy

Posted by: GWN7 Nov 22 2004, 10:28 AM

Here is a list of differences

acknowledgement
acknowledgement *, acknowledgment
acknowledgment, acknowledgement

ageing
aging *, ageing *
aging

aeroplane
airplane
airplane

aesthetics
aesthetics
aesthetics, esthetics

aluminium
aluminum
aluminum

among, amongst among *, amongst among
anaemia anemia anemia
anaesthesia
anaesthesia *, anesthesia
anesthesia

analogue analogue analog
analyse analyze *, analyse analyze
annex, annexe annex annex
apologise, apologize
apologize
apologize

archaeology
archaeology *, archeology
archeology, archaeology

artefact artifact artifact
axe
axe
ax, axe

analyse, analyze
analyze *, analyse
analyze

balk, baulk balk balk
banister, bannister banister *, bannister banister
behaviour behaviour *, behavior behavior
behove behoove behoove
blonde (for female) blond *, blonde * blond, blonde
B.Sc. B.Sc. B.S.
burette burette *, buret buret, burette
burnt, burned
burned *, burnt *
burned, burnt

Caesarean Caesarian *, Cesarean, Cesarian Cesarean, Caesarean
calibre calibre caliber
cancelled
cancelled
canceled, cancelled

catalogue
catalogue
catalog(ue)

catalyse catalyze *, catalyse catalyze
centre
centre *, center
center

cheque (noun, money)
cheque
check

chequered
checkered
checkered

chilli, chili chili chili
cigarette cigarette cigarette, cigaret
clamour clamour *, clamor clamor
colour
colour *, color
color

connection, connexion connection connection
cosy
cozy *, cosy
cozy

counsellor
counsellor *, counselor
counselor

criticise, criticize
criticize
criticize

curb (verb) curb curb
defence
defence *, defense
defense

dialogue
dialogue
dialog(ue)

diarrhoea
diarrhea
diarrhea

dietician, dietitian dietitian *, dietician dietician, dietitian
dispatch, despatch dispatch dispatch
doughnut
doughnut
donut, doughnut

Dr (A contracted form of a word, ending with the same letter as the full form, is not followed by a full stop).
Dr.
Dr.

draught (current of air)
draft
draft

dreamt, dreamed
dreamt *, dreamed *
dreamed, dreamt

emphasise
emphasize
emphasize

encyclopedia, encyclopædia encyclopedia encyclopedia
enquiry, inquiry
inquiry *, enquiry
inquiry

enrol
enrol *, enroll
enroll

favour
favour *, favor
favor

flavour flavour *, flavor flavor
fibre
fibre
fiber

flautist
flutist *, flautist
flutist

flavour
flavour *, flavor
flavor

foetus, fetus fetus fetus
forever, for ever forever forever
fulfil
fulfil
fulfill, fulfil

gauge gauge gauge, gage
glamour
glamour *, glamor
glamour, glamor

gonorrhoea gonorrhea gonorrhea
grey
grey
gray

gynaecology gynecology *, gynaecology gynecology
haemorrhage
hemorrhage
hemorrhage

harbour
harbour *, harbor
harbor

harmonise, harmonize harmonize harmonize
haulier
hauler
hauler

homeopathy, homoeopathy homeopathy homeopathy
honour
honour *, honor
honor

humour humour *, humor humor
initialise initialize initialize
jail, gaol jail jail
jewellery
jewellery *, jewelry
jewelry

judgement
judgment *, judgement
judgment

kerb (noun)
curb
curb

kilometre kilometre *, kilometer kilometer
labour
labour *, labor
labor

lasagne lasagna lasagna
leant, leaned
leaned
leaned

learnt, learned
learned *, learnt *
learned

licence (noun) licence license
license (verb) license *, licence license
litre
litre
liter

manoeuvre
manoeuvre *, maneuver
maneuver

marvellous marvellous marvelous
meagre meagre *, meager meager
metre
metre *, meter
meter

mould
mould *, mold
mold

neighbour
neighbour *, neighbor
neighbor

net, nett (amount of money) net net
oedema, edema edema edema
oesophagus, esophagus esophagus esophagus
oestrogen, estrogen estrogen estrogen
offence
offence *, offense
offense

omelette
omelette *, omelet
omelet, omelette

organisation
organization
organization

pædiatrics, pediatrics pediatrics pediatrics
paedophile, pedophile pedophile pedophile
paralyse paralyze *, paralyse paralyze
parlour
parlour *, parlor
parlor

parallelling, parallelled
paralleling *, parallelling, paralleled *, parallelled
paralleling, parallelling, paralleled, parallelled

pedlar, peddler
peddler *, pedlar
peddler

pleaded
pleaded
pleaded, pled

plough
plow *, plough
plow

practise (verb)
practise *, practice
practice

practice (noun)
practice
practice

pretence
pretense *, pretence
pretense

programme, program
program *, programme
program

pyjamas
pyjamas
pajamas

rancour rancour *, rancor rancor
realise, realize
realize
realize

recognise, recognize recognize recognize
rigour rigour *, rigor rigor
saleable saleable saleable, salable
saviour saviour *, savior savior
savour
savour *, savor
savor

sceptical
sceptical *, skeptical
skeptical

skilful
skilful *, skillful
skillful, skilful

smelt, smelled
smelled
smelled

speciality
specialty *, speciality
specialty

sulphur
sulphur *, sulfur
sulfur

theatre
theatre *, theater
theater

theatregoer
theatregoer *, theatergoer
theatergoer

titbit
tidbit
tidbit

towards toward *, towards toward, towards (unusual)
travelling
travelling
traveling, travelling

tyre
tire
tire

vice
vice
vise, vice

vigour vigour *, vigor vigor
wagon, waggon wagon wagon
woollen woollen *, woolen woolen

The first is British, middle is Canadain and the end ones are American spellings......now you know why I make mistakes. biggrin.gif

The ones with the asterisk are the most commonly used.

My favorite saying is "That dog don't hunt" Those from the South will know it. beerchug.gif

Posted by: Meredith Nov 22 2004, 10:30 AM

QUOTE(914RS @ Nov 22 2004, 01:24 AM)
I fully understand the occasional type-o

Like the way you spelled "typo"? rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Root_Werks Nov 22 2004, 10:40 AM

QUOTE(Meredith @ Nov 22 2004, 08:30 AM)
QUOTE(914RS @ Nov 22 2004, 01:24 AM)
I fully understand the occasional type-o

Like the way you spelled "typo"? rolleyes.gif

chairfall.gif lol2.gif

I am on the 914club while at work, so I type fast and don't look back. Mistakes have been made, but it is just a forum/bbs whatever. So I don't worry about it too much.

Although you will not see me typing things like "wurd" or "ur" - oh wait, I just did! laugh.gif

Posted by: Rhodes71/914 Nov 22 2004, 10:43 AM

This is supposed to be a garage right. Proper english is not a requirement in a garage why should spelling be, or grammer for the matter.

Posted by: Joe Sharp Old Nov 22 2004, 11:02 AM

Aside frum bening disklexus I didnt grad ur finish high school.
Accept me for what I do not for what I can't do.

Posted by: Cloudbuster Nov 22 2004, 11:12 AM

I'm with 914RS

The one that kills me is 'brake' and 'break'. 'Brake' is to slow down. 'Break' is to cause failure.

When somebody says:
'My car breaks good enough...'

I think "NO SH*T Sherlock! It's a 30 year old car, something is always breaking!"

Then I realize they are talking about the round metal things to which friction is applied by a hydraulically actuated piston, engaged by a foot pedal, to arrest the forward (or rearward) progress of the car.

If correctness doesn't matter in a garage, then throw out your torque wenches and socket sets. Just get a nice selection of crescent wrenches. They're close enough.

Posted by: 914forme Nov 22 2004, 11:17 AM

If you use a Mac with OSX you have it built in right click if you have a 2 button mouse an click on spelling. Or goto the tool bar and click edit, then spelling.

Pretty simple.

Why do you need a spell checker - Oh I get it you use a windoz system.

Sorry I work on Windows systems all day long - I use a Powerbook with 10.3 to work from why - because it just works.

Oh for you windows people you can always cut and past it in and out of word, and get your spelling and grammar fixed.

I ccan't speel to save my soul so don't aks mee too.

BTW, is that type-o positive or negative - we need to make sure you get it right on your 914 club card, hate to drop the wrong typo into yah - you could flat line!

Posted by: 96conv Nov 22 2004, 12:02 PM

Engrish is mi secound langauge so give me a brake. smile.gif

Posted by: Sammy Nov 22 2004, 12:03 PM

A few years ago on the 914 chat room JP and I conversed often. I seemed to pick up a more creative way uf speeling from im, like haid, tairs prolly, etc. Funny how something like that rubs off on ya.

I can spell very well, much better than I type. If I type something incorrectly, oh well. If I type it correctly and it is not speeled correctly I did it on purpose.

My point? I dunno. Is this really an issue? It isn't to me.
If I read somethjing and can understand it then it is spelled well enough. If I read something and caint make no sense ofit, then it needs a speel checker wink.gif

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 22 2004, 12:04 PM

QUOTE(914forme @ Nov 22 2004, 09:17 AM)
BTW, is that type-o positive or negative - we need to make sure you get it right on your 914 club card, hate to drop the wrong typo into yah - you could flat line!

http://www.typeonegative.net/news.php

yeah baby ... aktion035.gif

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 22 2004, 12:06 PM

QUOTE(96conv @ Nov 22 2004, 10:02 AM)
Engrish is mi secound langauge so give me a brake. smile.gif

agree.gif

Posted by: mack914 Nov 22 2004, 12:10 PM

I would like to take a moment and welcome my MOM to the website.

Posted by: Aaron Cox Nov 22 2004, 12:11 PM

hoo kares bout spelin n e weigh?

huked onn Fonix werked 4 me!

Posted by: bryanthompson Nov 22 2004, 12:12 PM

QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Nov 22 2004, 10:01 AM)
Wash is not pronounced "warsh" (take a look no "r" in wash)

I agree with that one, and Idea also. It's an IDEA, not an IDEAR!

The rest seems like uppity euro-elitism finger.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: Gustl Nov 22 2004, 12:59 PM

QUOTE(J P Stein @ Nov 22 2004, 11:10 AM)
In respect to Gustl B (if that's his real name), when adressing him directly, I'll use proper English ...

wow ... many thanks pray.gif
my "real" name is Wolfgang, Gustl is my nickname, used by a couple of friends for at least 10 years

don't get me wrong - there's no problem in misstyping words - happens to me too
but there are lots of dialect expressions (??) I don't get, due to the fact that english is my second language
I have to quit reading numerous threads, because I don't get the point sad.gif
and believe me, asking for every second word/expression is highly frustrating unsure.gif

Gustl

Posted by: 96conv Nov 22 2004, 01:20 PM

QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Nov 22 2004, 10:11 AM)
hoo kares bout spelin n e weigh?

huked onn Fonix werked 4 me!

ROFLMAO!

Posted by: J P Stein Nov 22 2004, 01:42 PM

Gustl:
I have no second language.....I only have enough knowledge to butcher one. wacko.gif

There are many...ah.. dialects in American english.

I spent about a year in a small detachment overseas. I was born and raised in the Northwest part of this country where we speak accent free ...American.....except for the R in warsh.
biggrin.gif. After about 6 months of exposure to guys from all over the country, we all ended up sounding like someone from the South....not deep South.....maybe Texas....God. huh.gif
That type of speach just kind of rolls off the tounge.
It took me years to get over it.....but typing it is fun biggrin.gif

Posted by: lapuwali Nov 22 2004, 01:43 PM

To the original point, spelling and grammar checkers don't catch everything. For example, the usage "break" for the bits on the car that make the wheels stop, would not be caught by any spelling checker, and not by many grammar checkers.

Anyone who's upset about spelling should take up reading some English texts from the 15th to 18th centuries. Spelling was a good deal more "flexible" then. The point was to get the idea across. There were still good and bad writers, those who could turn a nice phrase, or get a point across more clearly than many. Rigidly adhered to rules. however, didn't really come into play until well into the 19th century, and even some of those rules are being reconsidered by the types of books that lay down those rules today. Dangling prepositions, for example, aren't really considered bad usage these days unless you write for the New Yorker (which is so anal it still puts an umlaut in cooperate). The English language isn't dead, despite repeated attempts to ossify it by academics and busybodies.

What gets me aren't the bad spellers or those with sloppy grammar, but the people who can't string together simple sentences to get a point across. I can only imagine what it's like to talk to these people in person.

Posted by: skline Nov 22 2004, 01:49 PM

OK, We should all relax now, in a garage, we would be talking not spelling out each word. I had a boss that could not spell worth a crap and would send out memo's without spell checking. Used to crack me up. I finally told him to use a spell checker and since he was too lazy, he used to give the memo's to me to proofread them first before he sent them out. I no longer try to correct people's spelling. It just isnt worth it. Just use your higher intelligence to figure out what they are trying to say.

Get over it and get along. beerchug.gif

Posted by: lapuwali Nov 22 2004, 01:53 PM

QUOTE
we speak accent free ...American.....except for the R in warsh


Er, you speak "American" with an American accent, not "accent-free" anything. Anyone who says someone "has no accent" is simply saying they have the same accent as they do.

The English invented the bloody language, so if anyone has a right to define a given accent as a "non-accent", it's them. However, they themselves have so many accents and subtle variations on accent caused by regional and class differences that they can't even agree on what that "non-accent" should be. The BBC even went to considerable lengths in the 1920s to define a "BBC accent", and forced all of their presenters to adopt that accent on the air. This policy was enforced until the late 1970s, when regional accents finally managed to get on the air, at least for some presenters.

There are enough variations in US usage that there really isn't an "American" accent, either. TV and radio presenters are, again, the usual standard, but not to the extent the British have gone in the past. However, if you've ever heard a British comedian affect a mock "American" accent, you'll quickly hear just how hilarious a "non accent" can sound.

Posted by: Series9 Nov 22 2004, 02:12 PM

I started a fight! Right on!

Thanks for pointing out my 'type-o', Mer. I knew if there was anything wrong in that post, I was going to get a ration of shit.

Just to be clear, I don't think we should have rules of any type regarding spelling and grammar, and I hope I don't need medication because 'tires' spelled 'tiars' bothers me.

I just meant to say that spelling matters to me and wondered if anyone else felt the same.

Posted by: slivel Nov 22 2004, 02:19 PM

Where I grew up they were pronounced "tars". biggrin.gif

Steve

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 22 2004, 02:23 PM

QUOTE(lapuwali @ Nov 22 2004, 11:53 AM)
The English invented the bloody language, so if anyone has a right to define a given accent as a "non-accent", it's them. However, they themselves have so many accents and subtle variations on accent caused by regional and class differences that they can't even agree on what that "non-accent" should be.

actually, they do. it is called "Oxford English" and that's what they teach kids in school in germany ...

problem with this "accent-free" english is that it doesn't really get you anywhere.
after 7+ years of "Oxford English" in school i went to the UK for the first time and i couldn't understand a bloody word!
same when i first came to the US ...

i think they should teach a more "close to real life" version of english in the schools ...
unsure.gif Andy

Posted by: Headrage Nov 22 2004, 02:30 PM

Being that this is a garage environment and we are just hanging around drinking beer and talking about cars, I imagine after a couple of hours beer.gif beer.gif beer.gif beer.gif beer.gif beer.gif I wouldn't be able to understand alot of you while you were speaking directly to me.

Posted by: 914Timo Nov 22 2004, 02:50 PM

I don´t know why, but this has been very interesting and amusing topic.

Andy is 100% right about that "Oxford English". They teach it in schools in Finland too. The real English is quite a different and they have talked a lot here that they should teach more the real one. I don´t believe they will ever do that. So, you have to get used to that we foreigner aliens will sound weird in the future too biggrin.gif

BTW, there is many different dialect in Finnish too. So, I understand very well that some of you write a little different. I think it could be very boring if all here starts to write in the same way. I like to heard and read different Finnish dialects here too.

Posted by: GTeener Nov 22 2004, 02:57 PM

I thought 'tiars' was intentional.
I read it with a Southern accent and it works for me lol2.gif

I know I am guilty of writing in "slang speak".

Wudup wid dat?

'proly 'nuff said...

wink.gif

Posted by: Toast Nov 22 2004, 03:15 PM

Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.
laugh.gif

Posted by: Root_Werks Nov 22 2004, 03:23 PM

I had to catch up on this one. Interesting topic really. Working in an office enviroment, I see tons of mistakes in gramar and spelling. When I post here, I type (fast) and don't look back. But at work, I will re-read everything, twice even if it is just to make sure it makes sense. Sort of a cool forum, I have learned a little from it.

Does ubanics (spelling?) bother anyone? sad.gif

Posted by: Hawktel Nov 22 2004, 03:41 PM

QUOTE(lapuwali @ Nov 22 2004, 11:53 AM)
QUOTE
we speak accent free ...American.....except for the R in warsh


Er, you speak "American" with an American accent, not "accent-free" anything. Anyone who says someone "has no accent" is simply saying they have the same accent as they do.

The English invented the bloody language, so if anyone has a right to define a given accent as a "non-accent", it's them. However, they themselves have so many accents and subtle variations on accent caused by regional and class differences that they can't even agree on what that "non-accent" should be. The BBC even went to considerable lengths in the 1920s to define a "BBC accent", and forced all of their presenters to adopt that accent on the air. This policy was enforced until the late 1970s, when regional accents finally managed to get on the air, at least for some presenters.

There are enough variations in US usage that there really isn't an "American" accent, either. TV and radio presenters are, again, the usual standard, but not to the extent the British have gone in the past. However, if you've ever heard a British comedian affect a mock "American" accent, you'll quickly hear just how hilarious a "non accent" can sound.

Actually, IIRC English as a language has drifted more in Great Britan than here in the States.

If you was to pull a person from the 1800 into the present age and question him, he would find it easier to speak to a person with American way of speaking than a British way of speaking.

It was a pretty complex on why, but basically as America had/has a larger population to incorperate into English due to immigration and a larger population, so it lacked any significant drift for a portion of time. So when buzzwords are introduced they don't ussualy become part of the lexicon, where in GB they do, Due to its smaller population thats more homogenous ( for the most part)

But over all who cares, If you don't understand something cause Engrish isn't your first language just ask, No one here has a problem with keeping their mouth shut. Far from.

Posted by: TimT Nov 22 2004, 04:59 PM

English is actually a germanic language, Anglo-Saxon, or something like that . Its been way to many years since I sat through all of this in a classroom.

I did a quick google and found http://www.krysstal.com/english.html

English is a very complex language, probably one of the most difficult languages to master. As has been mentioned, even in the states we have "different versions (dialects) of english" Ask for a soda in NY, you get a can of coke or 7up, ask for a soda in New England you get a blank stare,(they call coke, or 7up "pop")

A hero sandwich is called a hoagie or grinder.

I hope no one takes offense, but I just spent some time in South Carolina, I commented to my friend ( a fellow NY'er) that they speak a different language down here!.. Im sure they were saying the same thing about us NY'ers.

The english language is now morphing even further. chat rooms, BBs's, forums develope there own distinct dialects.

People from all over the world read this forum, mistakes and typos are made, give us, and them a break!


Yikes!! ramble off!!

now its time for

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Posted by: lapuwali Nov 22 2004, 05:31 PM

I'd question when, or even if, the language will devolve furthur into dialects. Most of the regional differences in the US are pretty minor, and wouldn't linguistically be called a dialect. A genuine dialect often has a large difference in vocabulary, and sometimes grammar. In Italy, for example, villages just a few miles apart may speak dialects that sound like Italian, but can't be mutually understood. Many Italians speak both Italian as it's taught nationally, and a local dialect not spoken by anyone outside a 10 or 100 sq. mile area. The same is true in many other countries.

This has never really happened in the US, where 99.999% of the language is the same no matter where you go in the US. Differences for things like "hoagy" v. "sub" or "soda" v. "pop" (or soda pop, or soda water, or just coke) are pretty minor, and generally only pertain to names of things, not usage.

The differences between UK English and US English are much bigger, and amount to differences in usage ("in hospital" v. "in the hospital" is a minor example), not just names for things.

The main factor arguing against significant shifts in regional "dialects" in the US and the UK is the levelling factor of the mass media. When dialectical differences in Italy were being formed, it was uncommon for someone to meet or speak to another person from only 100 miles away during their entire lifetime. Only the educated few travelled or wrote to people over such large distances. This was true until only 50 years ago, so naturally, differences in language developed over the thousands of years Italy had been populated prior to that time. Today, I'm "speaking" to 100s of people who are from as far away as Helsinki just by typing this. And it's not like I'm using "public" or "book" dialect, as one does in Italy when a Milanese talks to a Roman; I'm using the only language and usage I know.

Posted by: Mueller Nov 22 2004, 05:35 PM

wait till you throw ebonics into the mix smile.gif

Posted by: Aaron Cox Nov 22 2004, 06:13 PM

QUOTE(Mueller @ Nov 22 2004, 04:35 PM)
wait till you throw ebonics into the mix smile.gif

or cyber nerd!

wut ^ mang? dewd.. gawd... OMG LMAO wacko.gif unsure.gif :finger2:

Posted by: Eric_Shea Nov 22 2004, 06:35 PM

Joe, Joe, Joe...

With all the time you've spent reading over this post you could have had those 4 mounts taken out and a proper firewall mount welded in "and" painted fancy "yeller" w00t.gif

Posted by: Headrage Nov 22 2004, 06:44 PM

agree.gif Quit bitchin and use your time productively!!!!! Remember the WCC is coming and we need your cars. So use your, youre, yoor, yur, yore, you're time well! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Aaron Cox Nov 22 2004, 06:46 PM

QUOTE(96conv @ Nov 22 2004, 12:20 PM)
QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Nov 22 2004, 10:11 AM)
hoo kares bout spelin n e weigh?

huked onn Fonix werked 4 me!

ROFLMAO!

whut r yoo taukin abowt mann?

Posted by: Series9 Nov 22 2004, 08:25 PM

QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Nov 22 2004, 05:35 PM)
Joe, Joe, Joe...

With all the time you've spent reading over this post you could have had those 4 mounts taken out and a proper firewall mount welded in "and" painted fancy "yeller" w00t.gif

I gave the doors to my painter today. That's progress, right?

I'll get 'er (yes, I know, go ahead) done.

What makes you think I have any intention of changing motor mounts? cool.gif

Posted by: Eric_Shea Nov 23 2004, 08:34 AM

QUOTE
What makes you think I have any intention of changing motor mounts?


Cause... ya done everything else right. biggrin.gif

Posted by: aircooledboy Nov 23 2004, 01:26 PM

I heared all y'all smart fellers had the gud whine and cheeze wiz over yonder, butt I cain't fine none. I axed that Biff fella, but he just sayed soumthin bout "NARK owners" or "NARP owners" and "can't even speak the king's english", and then he wandered away? confused24.gif

I sure wish I cud fine them vittles. sad.gif

Posted by: restore2seater Nov 23 2004, 01:54 PM

This was sent to me in an email about a year ago.

Birllaint Obsrevatoin...
Aoccdrnig to extnesvie rseeacrh conudcetd at Oxofrd Uinervtisy in Enlgnad,it deosn't raelly mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer is at the rghit pclae.

The rset can be in a toatl mses and you usulaly can sitll raed it wouthit much porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae we do not raed ervey lteter by it slef but the wrod as a wlohe.

Jsut thnik a momnet abuot all the tmie you and I watesed laernnig how to splel wrods croreclty

Posted by: tracks914 Nov 23 2004, 06:01 PM

With the leader of the free world as a role model (that just got re-elected) why would you expect any more from its people? If he can run the free world with his grammar then we should be able to have a BBS with our little typo's. rolleyes.gif

Ok I just couldn't resist...sorry to ya'll for the politics. I know thew rules but just had to break them. My bad.



But I'd do it again if I knew I could get away with it. devil.gif

Posted by: Series9 Nov 23 2004, 06:51 PM

Eric and Allan,

Instead of bitching, I put my day to good use. I:

1. Obtained some more bulk carpet, cut my last three pieces and took them to my binder.

2. Took my door latches, striker plates, stops and deck latches to be stripped and cad plated.

3. Purchased and installed 'hood pins' for my engine deck.

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Posted by: SLITS Nov 23 2004, 06:54 PM

QUOTE(tracks914 @ Nov 23 2004, 05:01 PM)
With the leader of the free world as a role model (that just got re-elected) why would you expect any more from its people? If he can run the free world with his grammar then we should be able to have a BBS with our little typo's. rolleyes.gif

Ok I just couldn't resist...sorry to ya'll for the politics. I know thew rules but just had to break them. My bad.



But I'd do it again if I knew I could get away with it. devil.gif

And a world power lol2.gif speaketh!

Posted by: skline Nov 24 2004, 09:29 AM

Just a quick comeback on this one, one of the most common errors I see is the word Loose. Loose means not tight, lose means you have lost something, If you are a nobody and can’t do anything right, the word is Loser. That would be desriptive of people like me and Slits and some others on here. You all know who you are.

Posted by: Eric_Shea Nov 24 2004, 09:45 AM

Way ta go Joe! smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: BPGREER Nov 24 2004, 02:39 PM

Who cares if some cannot spell or form a proper sentence? confused24.gif I think the content is more valuable than its presentation.

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