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Posted by: 76-914 Apr 14 2013, 09:10 AM

OK, I'll start. I don't expect that this thread will catch on because, after all, we are men (most of us) and we don't need instructions nor ask directions, right? DD's admission to using the wrong screw on the interior door handle made me realize there may be place for FU's like this and that it could be used in a preventative manner. dry.gif
I can't remember all my FU's (and there have been many) but this one is fresh in my mind as it happened yesterday. After bragging about my new shop press I must point out that it only works as well as the idiot operating it. After re-installing my trailing arms I noticed a very noticeable amount of slop in the hub as I put the wheel back on. I pulled the arm off and found that I had not placed a back up behind the bearing, rather the bearing receiver, when pressing in the hub. As a result the bearing separated appx 1-2mm. Placed it back on the press with the proper back up and 2 seconds later is was properly pressed in. I've come to the sad realization that you can't fix stupid. sad.gif

Posted by: 914itis Apr 14 2013, 09:50 AM

Oh well, I can start,
As I was moving my fuel pump to the front, I crossed the fuel lines by accident. Took me a few cranks of no atart to notice. poke.gif

Posted by: MrKona Apr 14 2013, 10:04 AM

The other day I was adjusting my points. Quick gap change, dust cover, distributor cap back on, car won't start... great.

Re-adjust them to the same gap as before. Put it all back together and car still won't start.

It was at that time I noticed the rotor sitting on the trunk.

Posted by: d914 Apr 14 2013, 10:08 AM

My list is long and varied ,, but since mine is not running,,, last mistake,, ordered wrong part... R-ordered lost another couple weeks!!

Posted by: effutuo101 Apr 14 2013, 11:26 AM

I miss positioned my thumb and drilled through it. I got my turn buckets in with a blood sacrifice.

Posted by: Rav914 Apr 14 2013, 11:35 AM

Not today, but the most recent work invloved cutting out a rusty right hand shelf to weld in rust free pieces. I was wondering why the metal was 'sweating'? Turns out I cut right through the brake line. Thankfully Eric at PMB has them in stock:)

Posted by: eyesright Apr 14 2013, 11:37 AM

I rebuilt my engine and everything looks right. It takes a week to hook everything up especially the Bursch exhaust that doesn't fit quite right.

But finally I crank it and it doesn't even try to start. I can hear fuel pumping back into the tank so I figure no spark. Timing light confirms this and multimeter shows 12 volts at the coil...hmmm, maybe dirty points despite my best efforts to clean them after distributor teardown.

Pop the dizzy cap off and clean the points....but whatsthis???!!! somehow the points arent even connected.....SURELY they came undone somehow. Yeah, right.

So, connect the points, put cap back on, oops, take cap back off, put rotor back on, put cap back on and it should start right up.

Loud exhaust pop but no start. hmmm, maybe some fuel was sitting in the exhaust so try again. Loud pop and trying to start but only on a couple of cylinders. Rule #1 is always think of the worst most complicated thing I could do wrong......do I have a valve WAY too tight or something

So I jack one side up and take the wheel off. When I see how impossible it is to get at the valves now that the HE's are installed I remind my self that no matter how insecure I am, I set those valves three times and I can hear that there is plenty of compression when I cranked it. Why did I go this way anyway?

So wheel back on, jack down, and just why didn't I check my plug wires before I did any thing else? So I found #1 and #2 switched. Obviously someone has been in here just trying to mess with me....even tho I am 10 miles out of town....Anyway, I set that right and of course it started right up.

Now I have 100 miles of on and off the throttle in 4th gear and I find oil leaks from the front and rear of the case. Oil pressure sender, oil cooler, oil pump areas are dry. I hope those front and rear seals tighten up. And oil pressure reads low. I have to hope its the new VDO double pole sender and gauge I installed giving faulty signal/reading.

Hope I didn't do anything REALLY dumb.

Posted by: euro911 Apr 14 2013, 11:49 AM

1. I've purchased five 914s in my lifetime headbang.gif


... and


2. OUCH

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Posted by: Dave_Darling Apr 14 2013, 11:51 AM

Oh, lord--I could write pages on this...

Probably one full page on alternator replacement. Did you know that you get pretty good at something when you do the same job three times in a row? (As long as you don't count the parts you left out the first couple of times.) And that red wire with the ring terminal on it? Yeah, you kind of need to hook that one up too.

Kinked fuel lines by the score. Well, ok--only a few times.

Shredding engine tin screws with the wrong-sized screwdriver.

Troubleshooting for hours and hours on the ignition system when I had bumped the CHT sender wires and disconnected them by accident.

Lousy crimps on connectors I installed, or splices I made. Make for interesting symptoms, and occasional exciting sparks under the dash!

And then there's the whole trunk roller replacement fiasco. And grabbing an ignition wire that wasn't actually completely secure. And launching the VERY SHARP seatbelt retractor spring past my face at mach three.

I'm more afraid to try to list what I haven't done wrong!!!

--DD

Posted by: MrKona Apr 14 2013, 01:22 PM

QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Apr 14 2013, 10:51 AM) *

And grabbing an ignition wire that wasn't actually completely secure. And launching the VERY SHARP seatbelt retractor spring past my face at mach three.



I've done both of those too. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Apr 14 2013, 02:36 PM

QUOTE(Rav914 @ Apr 14 2013, 10:35 AM) *

Not today, but the most recent work invloved cutting out a rusty right hand shelf to weld in rust free pieces. I was wondering why the metal was 'sweating'? Turns out I cut right through the brake line. Thankfully Eric at PMB has them in stock:)

He does?! lol-2.gif

Posted by: relentless Apr 14 2013, 02:47 PM

Well my biggest blunder I did as a young man about 30 years ago. I was installing an amp in the passenger bulkhead using a drill (you can see where this is going, right?) for some sheet metal screws. Yep, I drilled clear through the bulkhead and then clear through the gas tank! I had a nice stream of gas coming into the passenger area and I think I set a record removing the tank! It is amazing how fast you can remove one with proper motivation and having done it before.

But now a story that tops them all. This is from a friend and co-worker: He brought his 914 into the garage and started working on some rust damage on the battery tray. He used a grinder with a cutting wheel on to shear through the sheet metal in anticipation of replacing it. Not realizing that the gas lines ran under the batt tray, he managed to cut through them and still with 30psi of pressure from the pump. Well, sparks and gas are a bad, bad combination, and the car caught on fire. The fire spread... My friend didn't own a fire extinguisher, much less have one handy as we ALL SHOULD when working on our cars in any fashion that would warrant one.

Not only did my friend lose his car that day, but also his house and all his posessions inside. Please file this away for a rainy day, always have safety equipment available and that includes a fire extinguisher!

Posted by: Phil Plummer Apr 14 2013, 06:32 PM

QUOTE(76-914 @ Apr 14 2013, 07:10 AM) *

OK, I'll start. I don't expect that this thread will catch on because, after all, we are men (most of us) and we don't need instructions nor ask directions, right? DD's admission to using the wrong screw on the interior door handle made me realize there may be place for FU's like this and that it could be used in a preventative manner. dry.gif
I can't remember all my FU's (and there have been many) but this one is fresh in my mind as it happened yesterday. After bragging about my new shop press I must point out that it only works as well as the idiot operating it. After re-installing my trailing arms I noticed a very noticeable amount of slop in the hub as I put the wheel back on. I pulled the arm off and found that I had not placed a back up behind the bearing, rather the bearing receiver, when pressing in the hub. As a result the bearing separated appx 1-2mm. Placed it back on the press with the proper back up and 2 seconds later is was properly pressed in. I've come to the sad realization that you can't fix stupid. sad.gif

Well my 916 clone runs awsome and purrs like a kitten on steriods!!!
What I did WRONG was listening to Elegant motors in Edmonton Canada
When I was sold a 930/10 engine for a good price and yes it is a great Engine , However the owner had quoted 3000 to install Engine in my 914 and of course I supply all parts the moment my check cleared the owner of Elegant motors whom I had made the agreement with ordered me to remove my engine and he was "Too busy to do it"
2 yrs went by and after helping pull several Lotus engines Ferrari and Lambo Trannys as well as picking up parts in hopes of getting shop time ..After some alcohol consumed he admitted he did not have the knowledge to do this conversion by this time I had taken a car that was rust free and ran great and sold the original engine Thus I could not even drive it to PMS or another conversion specialist.
I made afew mistakes ..put a fendr ding in the car as things were dropped Etc
Greg Collins of Awsome shop in Spruce Grove Ab Canada installed engine and plumbed a nice oil cooler system, collabarated with Richard Johnson and a fine senior in Texas named Wes who is a gold mine of info on wireing.
Greg Collins charged less than 4000.00 and the car can now be driven to the body shop where it awaits the flares, double grill,paint and finishes.
Those whom I cannot thank enough are:
- Richard Johnson-Great motor mount he designed to use with ktronic injection
-Brian Day of Patrick motor sports parts for not only selling numerous parts but taking several minutes to offer very valuable advice saving much tme, money and heartache.
Wes, the man in Texas for his extensive knowledge on air cooled wireing.
Joel at Gt racing for nice headers and advice.
Kenedy Engineering
World apolstry
Pelican parts in particular Glenn at Pelican for his knowledge and direction
20th street Auto
And of couse Greg collins of Awsome Shop without whom I have a pile of junk, expensive parts, clutter and grief.
Iam thankfull to the 914 world people for advice in many other areas in regard to 914's and conversion-Regards Phil

Posted by: Phil Plummer Apr 14 2013, 06:37 PM

QUOTE(Phil Plummer @ Apr 14 2013, 04:32 PM) *

QUOTE(76-914 @ Apr 14 2013, 07:10 AM) *

OK, I'll start. I don't expect that this thread will catch on because, after all, we are men (most of us) and we don't need instructions nor ask directions, right? DD's admission to using the wrong screw on the interior door handle made me realize there may be place for FU's like this and that it could be used in a preventative manner. dry.gif
I can't remember all my FU's (and there have been many) but this one is fresh in my mind as it happened yesterday. After bragging about my new shop press I must point out that it only works as well as the idiot operating it. After re-installing my trailing arms I noticed a very noticeable amount of slop in the hub as I put the wheel back on. I pulled the arm off and found that I had not placed a back up behind the bearing, rather the bearing receiver, when pressing in the hub. As a result the bearing separated appx 1-2mm. Placed it back on the press with the proper back up and 2 seconds later is was properly pressed in. I've come to the sad realization that you can't fix stupid. sad.gif

Well my 916 clone runs awsome and purrs like a kitten on steriods!!!
What I did WRONG was listening to Elegant motors in Edmonton Canada
When I was sold a 930/10 engine for a good price and yes it is a great Engine , However the owner had quoted 3000 to install Engine in my 914 and of course I supply all parts the moment my check cleared the owner of Elegant motors whom I had made the agreement with ordered me to remove my engine and he was "Too busy to do it"
2 yrs went by and after helping pull several Lotus engines Ferrari and Lambo Trannys as well as picking up parts in hopes of getting shop time ..After some alcohol consumed he admitted he did not have the knowledge to do this conversion by this time I had taken a car that was rust free and ran great and sold the original engine Thus I could not even drive it to PMS or another conversion specialist.
I made afew mistakes ..put a fendr ding in the car as things were dropped Etc
Greg Collins of Awsome shop in Spruce Grove Ab Canada installed engine and plumbed a nice oil cooler system, collabarated with Richard Johnson and a fine senior in Texas named Wes who is a gold mine of info on wireing.
Greg Collins charged less than 4000.00 and the car can now be driven to the body shop where it awaits the flares, double grill,paint and finishes.
Those whom I cannot thank enough are:
- Richard Johnson-Great motor mount he designed to use with ktronic injection
-Brian Day of Patrick motor sports parts for not only selling numerous parts but taking several minutes to offer very valuable advice saving much tme, money and heartache.
Wes, the man in Texas for his extensive knowledge on air cooled wireing.
Joel at Gt racing for nice headers and advice.
Kenedy Engineering
World apolstry
Pelican parts in particular Glenn at Pelican for his knowledge and direction
20th street Auto
And of couse Greg collins of Awsome Shop without whom I have a pile of junk, expensive parts, clutter and grief.
Iam thankfull to the 914 world people for advice in many other areas in regard to 914's and conversion-Regards Phil

I also messed up with a grinder when cutting away a little of the trunk inner wall to make a removable plate for easier engine servicing luckily Greg fixed it.

Posted by: Chris H. Apr 14 2013, 08:28 PM

Today I took a hiatus from 914 work but the last week or so was pretty bad.

The highlights are:

- couldn't get the AC compressor back on the SVX engine, forced it until I heard a *crack*...the wiring connector was trapped under it.
- snapped the nipples off of two sensors in the vacuum line setup (each is over $100). apparently this is common but that doesn't help
- installing the trans seals for the new trans I bent the first one by LIGHTLY tapping it with the end of a screwdriver. The I pushed the second one in waaay too far and had to fish it out.

My all time favorite was the first time I changed a master cylinder. Spent DAYS bleeding the system because I didn't realize the rear calipers had two bleeder valves. So yeah...the pedal was A LITTLE SOFT until I figured that out.


Posted by: cwpeden Apr 14 2013, 08:45 PM

What did I do wrong to my 914 today?

Thats an easy one.....I looked under it. And thats when it all went wrong. stirthepot.gif

Havent driven for 2 months. Went for a spin this morning and thought I'd forgotten how to shift.

Went under to have a look, turned into:
Loose mount at end of bar
Fixing broken sheet metal
Adjust rear brake venting
Get ready to rebuild rear calipers headbang.gif
And these curious bits of plastic in the firewall boot.
I think I found the problem

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Posted by: 76-914 Apr 14 2013, 09:23 PM

I laughed so damned hard when reading some of these I literally had tears in my eyes. Misery loves company. biggrin.gif dry.gif

Posted by: '73-914kid Apr 14 2013, 09:56 PM

I never do anything wrong on my 914 Kent..come on, you know that. biggrin.gif

In all honesty, I've made quite a few mistakes the first time doing some stuff.. I've completely built a motor and forgot the tins that go between the pushrod tubes and the cylinders.. Didn't notice they weren't on the motor until it was in the car...

More recently, I was finish welding the access panel I cut out to repair my clutch tube. The wire split the gap between the panels, zapped the clutch tube, and melted my 3 day old clutch cable sheath... that one sucked.. $30 later, and problem solved..but annoying nonetheless.. Let's see what else..

I think that's all I can really remember at the moment..

Posted by: euro911 Apr 14 2013, 10:21 PM

QUOTE(cwpeden @ Apr 14 2013, 06:45 PM) *
And these curious bits of plastic in the firewall boot.
I think I found the problem

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Looks like you found a broken Fahrvergnügen stick man laugh.gif

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Posted by: cwpeden Apr 15 2013, 12:20 AM

YES! That explains everything.

QUOTE(euro911 @ Apr 14 2013, 09:21 PM) *

QUOTE(cwpeden @ Apr 14 2013, 06:45 PM) *
And these curious bits of plastic in the firewall boot.
I think I found the problem

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Looks like you found a broken Fahrvergnügen stick man laugh.gif

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Posted by: rpmmaxxed Apr 15 2013, 12:44 AM

Most of my mistakes have happened an hour or two after I should of called it quits.

Tonights, not putting the handle grip back on the grinder. Gets hard to hold onto with one hand after a lil while...

Removes skin FAST>!


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Posted by: rpmmaxxed Apr 15 2013, 12:45 AM

handle was reinstalled after I got "Bit" the second time...

Posted by: cwpeden Apr 15 2013, 12:55 AM

The guard would have helped too. Ask me how I know...zip wheel
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Posted by: johnpierre Apr 15 2013, 03:00 AM

QUOTE(MrKona @ Apr 14 2013, 09:04 AM) *

The other day I was adjusting my points. Quick gap change, dust cover, distributor cap back on, car won't start... great.

Re-adjust them to the same gap as before. Put it all back together and car still won't start.

It was at that time I noticed the rotor sitting on the trunk.

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Posted by: wndsnd Apr 15 2013, 05:53 AM

Decided to put the fresh air system back into the car. Plugged in blower, pushed over lever, nothing. So I replaced the relay, checked the fuse still nothing. Now I am on my back and looking at the back side of the heater control. There are three varients of white wires for speed control of the blower motor. White, White/Green, and White/Yellow. Found two wires disconnected from control and taped together with masking tape by PO. Found Brown ground dangling and attached to nothing.

So I sorted everything out and was all proud of myself. smile.gif

Flipped the lever and heard the fuse pop behind my head. blink.gif

Pretty sure I got the wires crossed at the motor plug......

or

Maybe control is shorting and that is why the PO had it all butchered up.... confused24.gif


Arghhhhhhhh........

Posted by: Jesse Apr 15 2013, 02:26 PM

Didnt tighten nuts on valve adjustment screws. removed valve cover to find two nuts laying there. hope i didnt mess it up.

Posted by: skeates Apr 15 2013, 05:30 PM

Back in high school on my first engine re-build I was so excited to get the thing running that I didn't notice one of the push rods wasn't fully seated. Engine fired up real nice and then all of a sudden there was a big bang and one of the cylinders stopped firing. When I took everything apart I found the rocker arm on the #4 cylinder intake valve snapped. I was lucky that was the extent of the damage.

Posted by: euro911 Apr 15 2013, 06:21 PM

Back in 1969, my first VW engine rebuild was a 40-horse T1 that spun #3 rod bearing. First test run around the block after the rebuild, the engine seized up dry.gif

I didn't know the arrows on the tops of the pistons were supposed to point toward the flywheel confused24.gif

Posted by: stugray Apr 15 2013, 06:36 PM

I did this one on my 71 Ghia:

Rebuilt engine in my brothers living room. Carried it down two flights of stairs to the parking lot, got it installed, got excited, fired it up and it fired on the first try!
I was amazed I got everything in my mental checklist on the first attempt.

Looked down at the full case of oil - DOH!

It was only running for about 3 seconds.
And ran for MANY years after that.
I just called it a "quick break-in"

Stu

Posted by: effutuo101 Apr 15 2013, 07:12 PM

I didn't work on my car today. That is what I did wrong.

Posted by: Mblizzard Apr 15 2013, 08:58 PM

I spent my formative years working in my dad's machine shop. I could pull a v8 and strip it, complete a valve job, bore it 30 over and start putting it back together the same day. Simple stuff really. So I figured by my college years, this simple VW engine should pose no problems. After all I had even tackled the rebuild of a Wankle in a RX7.

Dropped engine and had it down to the case in 2 hours. About right for the first time I thought. Took out the case bolts and proceeded to split the case. While it provided some resistance, obviously due to the sealant used on the halfs. Of course most of you can see where this is going. But fueled by my vast knowledge of engines, the power in youth, and the bigger hammer approach I reveled in the completion of the job. Only when I started cleaning up things did I notice the shards of metal and the single bolt that I had missed.

This was only slightly surpassed but the huge flames that shot out of the pipes almost setting my mother ablaze due to me putting the dizzy drive 180 out.

My expertise knows no limits!

Posted by: pneuhyde Apr 15 2013, 10:35 PM

When I swapped out my dead 1.8 for a running 1.7, I went from FI to carbs, Since I had studied my L-jet electrical intensely during many trouble shooting periods I thought I knew it well, and I wired my fuel pump to what seemed to be the perfect point on my relay panel. started it up, ran to the other side of the block and it died. Let it sit while I trouble shot to no avail, but it started up and got me home before doing it again. Many months went by with a few minutes of trouble shooting here and a few minutes there, and always the same results. Since I had swapped to a pointless ignition previously, I made it a point to never leave my key in the on position if the engine wasn't actually running, so one day I did just that by accident and discovered that my fuel pump was not pumping with the key on. I knew about the safety switch to keep it from running if the air flow meter was not open and in concentrating so much on bypassing that circuit, I had wired my pump into the starter circuit, so it only ran when I was starting my car, and then the engine would run until the carb bowl was empty.
Steve

Posted by: euro911 Apr 15 2013, 11:10 PM

QUOTE(Mblizzard @ Apr 15 2013, 06:58 PM) *
... This was only slightly surpassed but the huge flames that shot out of the pipes almost setting my mother ablaze ...
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Posted by: Jesse Apr 16 2013, 07:19 PM

So i replaced two valve adjust screws and the car is doing fine. However when i took the exhaust off a stud came out and stripped the hole, so now im replacing that stid with a #10 by #8 exhaust stud hope all goes well.

Posted by: Phil Plummer Apr 20 2013, 08:23 AM

Oh I messed up on the OIL TANK with wrecking the threads on the oil tank tight in between inner and outer fender and not much space to manuver So ...tap and die set to the rescue.!!!
Also picked up a beuty set of Stainless mufflers off of the find for cheap like 36.00 ea now have to re-weld on exhaust flanges at a very slight off set as the muffler on the drivers side hits the tail shifter rod..other than that it is a great reward to see this through to the paint and finshing stages.

Posted by: Phil Plummer Apr 20 2013, 08:24 AM

QUOTE(Phil Plummer @ Apr 20 2013, 06:23 AM) *

Oh I messed up on the OIL TANK with wrecking the threads on the oil tank tight in between inner and outer fender and not much space to manuver So ...tap and die set to the rescue.!!!
Also picked up a beuty set of Stainless mufflers off of the find for cheap like 36.00 ea now have to re-weld on exhaust flanges at a very slight off set as the muffler on the drivers side hits the tail shifter rod..other than that it is a great reward to see this through to the paint and finshing stages.

Appologies on my earlier rant about buying engine then left high and dry by an untrustworthy mechanic.

Posted by: 76-914 Jun 25 2013, 01:01 PM

Shit. Another entry in the STUPID dept. I need to spread out & strip down the wiring harness that I pulled from the Subaru donor car. As you can see below this will take up valuable garage floor space so I decided to go vertical.

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By cutting the 4x8 plywood into 16" strips I was able to cover the garage door panels but not interfere with the hinged movement as it is raised. Raised being the operative word here. That's right. I didn't consider the added weight to the garage door and it wouldn't raise. headbang.gif av-943.gif

Posted by: stugray Jun 25 2013, 01:39 PM

The other night my son (16 yr old) was helping me install the tops on my Weber carbs. He was on the passenger side with a 10mm open end tightening the bolts that hold on the velocity stacks.

I heard a spark, saw a flash and he said "Ahh! Turn it off"
I knew exactly what he had done and said "that is the battery! THERE IS NO OFF! - Knock it loose!"

By the time I ran around the car (my son swears I actually teleported...) he had tried twice to knock the wrench loose unsucessfully.

I knocked it loose with my bare hand.... We still both have blisters two days later. The wrench was nearly glowing red hot.
We got it out of the engine bay and it was still too hot to pick up with gloves minutes later.
It melted the chrome from the wrench (not from the arcing, from the temperature)......

I hope to never know how hot you can get a carb full of fuel before something bad happens ;-)

Stu

Posted by: carr914 Jun 25 2013, 04:55 PM

I twisted my Back last week - it seemed to be getting better, TILL I picked up some Tires this morning huh.gif

Posted by: bshounen Apr 16 2014, 07:42 PM

QUOTE(Phil Plummer @ Apr 14 2013, 05:32 PM) *

QUOTE(76-914 @ Apr 14 2013, 07:10 AM) *

OK, I'll start. I don't expect that this thread will catch on because, after all, we are men (most of us) and we don't need instructions nor ask directions, right? DD's admission to using the wrong screw on the interior door handle made me realize there may be place for FU's like this and that it could be used in a preventative manner. dry.gif
I can't remember all my FU's (and there have been many) but this one is fresh in my mind as it happened yesterday. After bragging about my new shop press I must point out that it only works as well as the idiot operating it. After re-installing my trailing arms I noticed a very noticeable amount of slop in the hub as I put the wheel back on. I pulled the arm off and found that I had not placed a back up behind the bearing, rather the bearing receiver, when pressing in the hub. As a result the bearing separated appx 1-2mm. Placed it back on the press with the proper back up and 2 seconds later is was properly pressed in. I've come to the sad realization that you can't fix stupid. sad.gif

Well my 916 clone runs awsome and purrs like a kitten on steriods!!!
What I did WRONG was listening to Elegant motors in Edmonton Canada
When I was sold a 930/10 engine for a good price and yes it is a great Engine , However the owner had quoted 3000 to install Engine in my 914 and of course I supply all parts the moment my check cleared the owner of Elegant motors whom I had made the agreement with ordered me to remove my engine and he was "Too busy to do it"
2 yrs went by and after helping pull several Lotus engines Ferrari and Lambo Trannys as well as picking up parts in hopes of getting shop time ..After some alcohol consumed he admitted he did not have the knowledge to do this conversion by this time I had taken a car that was rust free and ran great and sold the original engine Thus I could not even drive it to PMS or another conversion specialist.
I made afew mistakes ..put a fendr ding in the car as things were dropped Etc
Greg Collins of Awsome shop in Spruce Grove Ab Canada installed engine and plumbed a nice oil cooler system, collabarated with Richard Johnson and a fine senior in Texas named Wes who is a gold mine of info on wireing.
Greg Collins charged less than 4000.00 and the car can now be driven to the body shop where it awaits the flares, double grill,paint and finishes.
Those whom I cannot thank enough are:
- Richard Johnson-Great motor mount he designed to use with ktronic injection
-Brian Day of Patrick motor sports parts for not only selling numerous parts but taking several minutes to offer very valuable advice saving much tme, money and heartache.
Wes, the man in Texas for his extensive knowledge on air cooled wireing.
Joel at Gt racing for nice headers and advice.
Kenedy Engineering
World apolstry
Pelican parts in particular Glenn at Pelican for his knowledge and direction
20th street Auto
And of couse Greg collins of Awsome Shop without whom I have a pile of junk, expensive parts, clutter and grief.
Iam thankfull to the 914 world people for advice in many other areas in regard to 914's and conversion-Regards Phil


Posted by: bandjoey Apr 17 2014, 09:52 AM

O
Just the normal 914 mistake.
Up on the jackstands last October to put in pushrod seals and adjust the valves.
Walked by it today still on jackstands. sad.gif

Posted by: bdstone914 Apr 17 2014, 10:44 AM

Helped a friend install a transmission without the throw out bearing or clutch fork. He took the blame.

As a teenager I thought I had a bad trans on a 67 Ghia. I had all the nuts and bolts removed ready to pull it out.
A friend stopped by and pointed out the the rear brake drum spline was stripped from failure to tighten the big castle nut properly. Best laugh he had in a long time.

Posted by: whatabout1 Apr 18 2014, 08:03 PM

Placed a huge folded super thick shipping blanket on the hood, just like the ones on the roof and trunk,
so the stuff that doesn't fit on the roof and trunk wouldn't scratch her. unsure.gif

Posted by: 914-300Hemi Apr 18 2014, 10:09 PM

I installed a rebuilt engine and when I got it running I noticed that it was running hot. I looked and looked to solve the issue but couldn't figure out what was causing the issue.. I took the teener to Palm Springs and it was running very hot. I finally took it back to the mechanic who rebuilt the motor. I left it with him and he had the same issue and then he noticed blue flecks on the firewall. He reached down and pulled out a blue shop towel from the fan. headbang.gif that resolved the heating issue but the hearing caused and banging issue when cold.
Dropped the engine AGAIN and took it back to my mechanic and it turns out that I cracked one of the heads.
Replaced the head and put everything together. Since I had done this before I was able to put the engine back in much faster but it wouldn't start once everything was connected. Bottom line
1. Crossed fuel lines
2. No power to fuel pump
3. Burned out the electronic ignition
4. Replacing the battery
5. Burning out 3 starters
5. Reverted back to points but didn't ground the condenser. headbang.gif

After many days turning the figured out that not grounding the condenser caused me such heart ache.

I felt so dumb when I figured out the issue.

Posted by: 914_teener Apr 18 2014, 10:29 PM

Ravi...


You must really love your car..........


BTW....I might need some help dropping my motor to replace the motor mounts I broke when I replaced the suspension.

Now you are a pro.


Posted by: Elliot Cannon Apr 18 2014, 11:45 PM

QUOTE(bdstone914 @ Apr 17 2014, 09:44 AM) *

Helped a friend install a transmission without the throw out bearing or clutch fork. He took the blame.

As a teenager I thought I had a bad trans on a 67 Ghia. I had all the nuts and bolts removed ready to pull it out.
A friend stopped by and pointed out the the rear brake drum spline was stripped from failure to tighten the big castle nut properly. Best laugh he had in a long time.

I had the exact thing happen with a 1965 VW bug I had. I thought I had a blown clutch. I actually installed a new clutch. I put it in gear, let out the clutch and it still didn't move. I let it run, went outside and looked and saw the axle turning inside the brake drum. WTF.gif Well, it needed a new clutch anyway. av-943.gif

Posted by: euro911 Apr 19 2014, 12:05 AM

Installed my front license plate (only because I got a ticket). It's just so wrong, putting a front plate on these cars mad.gif

Posted by: 76-914 Apr 19 2014, 07:34 AM

QUOTE(euro911 @ Apr 18 2014, 11:05 PM) *

Installed my front license plate (only because I got a ticket). It's just so wrong, putting a front plate on these cars mad.gif

Was it an MC cop, a rookie cop or did you just piss off a regular cop. Most cops I know wouldn't ticket you for that.

Posted by: JawjaPorsche Apr 19 2014, 07:36 AM

QUOTE(euro911 @ Apr 19 2014, 02:05 AM) *

Installed my front license plate (only because I got a ticket). It's just so wrong, putting a front plate on these cars mad.gif



You are correct. 914's look much better without front tags. Took my bracket off 41 years ago and lost it many moons ago. biggrin.gif


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Posted by: 914-300Hemi Apr 19 2014, 08:21 AM

QUOTE(914_teener @ Apr 18 2014, 09:29 PM) *

Ravi...


You must really love your car..........


BTW....I might need some help dropping my motor to replace the motor mounts I broke when I replaced the suspension.

Now you are a pro.


Sure let me know when and I will come over and help. By the way I don't consider myself a pro.

Posted by: euro911 Apr 19 2014, 11:22 AM

QUOTE(76-914 @ Apr 19 2014, 05:34 AM) *
Was it an MC cop, a rookie cop or did you just piss off a regular cop. Most cops I know wouldn't ticket you for that.
Worse than a rookie, the story is here: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&showtopic=159774&view=findpost&p=2023586

Posted by: relentless Apr 19 2014, 12:55 PM

Pulled my '76 914 out of the shop for the first time in seven years. Insured and licensed the car, and then took the wife for a drive up to the Oregon Caves. Now the car has a little over 80K on the odometer. I had forgotten how low these cars sit and how awkward it is to get in and out now that I am no longer a youngster. driving.gif Attached Image

Posted by: 76-914 Oct 22 2014, 09:02 PM

A couple of days ago my GPS Speedo quit. As I had just connected a few other items in the console I looked there first. Sure enough I had pulled a wire loose from it's connection. A quick fix then back on the road. Yesterday, I hop in the car and no speedo, again! Shit sticks! So I check the fuse, OK. Out comes the console face again but everything is intact this time. As I put things back I notice a small red wire hanging next to the consoles left side. I thought this is easy but how in the Hell did I do that? Upon closer examination I discover another small red wire torn as well as a white one AND the small coaxial antenae cable ripped in two places. WTF.gif Rat attack? Cat from Hell? Vandalism? Nope. The problem was this DACO. I had run some wires too close to the U-Joint on the steering column and I had stuffed the extra 10' of antenae wire next to it. Once I realized I had ripped the wiring apart with the shaft it made sense. After a couple of hours of splicing and cussing it's working again. I shortened that antenae cable about 10' while I was at it. The moral to this story is that U-Joint is fairly well concealed by the same braces that make it an open invitation to pass thru when wiring. Easily avoided by securing wiring but I got lazy and it bit me in the ass. bootyshake.gif I remember the second it happened, now. I felt a bit of resistance in the wheel then it was gone. I thought WTF.gif , I'll check it later. hissyfit.gif

Posted by: pneuhyde Oct 22 2014, 09:55 PM

Is it WRONG, if you refurbish a Targa top, install new Targa top holders in the trunk,
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AND THEN FIND OUT THE TRUNK LID WONT CLOSE ALL THE WAY ????????

Posted by: pneuhyde Oct 22 2014, 10:10 PM

Is it WRONG, if you install new s/s brake lines and new steel lines to the calipers,
then decide to pull out the e-brake cables for some massive liquid wrench soaking
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And then LEAVE the cables in the outside garbage to drain and remember today that the garbage was picked up early this morning.
What a productive weekend

Posted by: bdstone914 Oct 22 2014, 10:30 PM

That flexible line looks too long to me. It should not drop down that far. Could you have mixed up the fronts and rears?

Posted by: boxsterfan Oct 22 2014, 10:42 PM

Failed fuel pump. Thought I would paint the tank and replace all the rubber fuel hose.

Two months later the tank is out of the car still, rusting on the inside and car is sitting.

Posted by: orangecrate Oct 22 2014, 11:56 PM

I didn't work on it- again.

Posted by: stugray Oct 23 2014, 09:08 AM

QUOTE(914_teener @ Apr 18 2014, 10:29 PM) *


BTW....I might need some help dropping my motor to replace the motor mounts I broke when I replaced the suspension.

Now you are a pro.


How about - "dropping the engine to replace the motor mounts only to learn that you do NOT have to drop the engine to replace the motor mounts?"

Hopefully does not turn into:
"learning that you should not support an engine on a hydraulic jack for more than a few minutes without shoring it up."

Posted by: ClayPerrine Oct 23 2014, 11:04 AM

When I was a LOT younger, and Betty and I were still dating, she and I installed sway bars on her 914. I was welding the nut plates in the front wheel wells. I had a spark land right on the family jewels. It burned through my jeans and burned the hell out of me. I have never jumped up so fast in my life. Betty laughed at me. dry.gif

One time I was pulling my 914 transmission in a friends garage, by myself, and it fell off the jack, rolling over as it did so. It then smashed the fingers on my left hand between the sharp edge of the motor mount and the concrete. Had to have stitches to both reattach the tendon in the finger, and to close up the gash. At the hospital, the nurse (think Sha

Posted by: ClayPerrine Oct 23 2014, 11:17 AM

When I was a LOT younger, and Betty and I were still dating, she and I installed sway bars on her 914. I was welding the nut plates in the front wheel wells. I had a spark land right on the family jewels. It burned through my jeans and burned the hell out of me. I have never jumped up so fast in my life. Betty laughed at me. dry.gif

One time I was pulling my 914 transmission in a friends garage, by myself, and it fell off the jack, rolling over as it did so. It then smashed the fingers on my left hand between the sharp edge of the motor mount and the concrete. Had to have stitches to both reattach the tendon in the finger, and to close up the gash. At the hospital, the nurse (think Shaq lookalike) told me to wash it out when it was numbed. I started washing, looked at him and said "This looks like chicken fat". The guy in the next ER stall heard me and that set him off barf.gif . The nurse told me I was mean. Then I proceeded to criticize the doctor's stitches (she looked like Melissa Rauch). She threatened that she would have me kept overnight for evaluation, and she would include a prostrate exam for being a critic.

I worked on a 71 911 one time that really ate my lunch. The owner brought it in with transmission issues. I was able to fix it because I know 901 transmissions in 914s. I pulled the engine and trans, and fixed the transmission. I put it all back together, put the engine and trans back in the car, and start it up. I put it in reverse to pull out of the bay, and it goes forward. stromberg.gif If you haven't figured it out, I put the differential in like a 914, not a 911. So it had 1 forward gear and 5 reverse gears. headbang.gif And this is not a 914, so I got to pull the engine and trans out again to flip the differential.


I also painted a 914 bright PURPLE with house paint and thick napped rollers. Most fun I ever had painting a car!


That is just a very short sample of the dumb things I have done with 914s over the years. And as they used to say on the Sonny and Cher show "The beat goes on."




Posted by: Mark Henry Oct 23 2014, 11:34 AM

Wrong??

Didn't work on it, no time.... sad.gif

Posted by: r_towle Oct 23 2014, 11:39 AM

Love this thread.

Wanted to mount an amp for the stereo, years ago.
I found what I thought was a perfect hidden spot up under the dash on the passenger side.
Drilled a hole to mount it, pulled out the bit from the successful hole I drill, upside down, and gas started squirting out.

I did Learn how to pull a fuel tank in under 1 minute as a result....


Posted by: euro911 Oct 23 2014, 11:52 AM

QUOTE(pneuhyde @ Oct 22 2014, 08:55 PM) *
Is it WRONG, if you refurbish a Targa top, install new Targa top holders in the trunk,
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AND THEN FIND OUT THE TRUNK LID WONT CLOSE ALL THE WAY ????????
Where is it hitting, Steve? ... front or rear?

Posted by: Jonathan Livesay Oct 23 2014, 12:16 PM

Wasn't there a DPO thread? I couldn't find it, but this qualifies as wrong, except I didn't do it. Really I swear. Found this on a 914 I am taking apart.

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Good workmanship on the backside.
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It is not even a genuine German gate hinge.
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Posted by: Philip W. Oct 23 2014, 12:25 PM

QUOTE(euro911 @ Oct 23 2014, 01:52 PM) *

QUOTE(pneuhyde @ Oct 22 2014, 08:55 PM) *
Is it WRONG, if you refurbish a Targa top, install new Targa top holders in the trunk,
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AND THEN FIND OUT THE TRUNK LID WONT CLOSE ALL THE WAY ????????
Where is it hitting, Steve? ... front or rear?

in the picture it looks like the front is not sitting down like it should. Maybe the latches are not in the cups? the front edge of the top should be in the plastic retaing clips. if they are the top should fit fine.

Posted by: McMark Nov 9 2014, 03:40 PM

A few weeks ago the turbo 1.7 developed a fuel supply issue. I was going up hill on my way to work and lost power. I pulled over and I waited for my guy to bring the truck and trailer. I could hear the pump running but figured a clogged fuel filter or clogged pickup was restricting flow. Since the shop is super busy right now it's been about a month and I finally had time to get it up on the lift. But before I lifted it I decided I should check for a clogged pickup first. Well apparently my fuel level sender is stuck, because I peeked in the tank and THERES NO GAS!
headbang.gif

Posted by: euro911 Nov 9 2014, 11:25 PM

Doh headbang.gif

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Posted by: pneuhyde Nov 10 2014, 12:01 AM

QUOTE(bdstone914 @ Oct 22 2014, 08:30 PM) *

That flexible line looks too long to me. It should not drop down that far. Could you have mixed up the fronts and rears?

Oops,
Didn't see this thread pop back up.
Wasn't sure what it is supposed to look like, but I chose the shorter pair of flexible hoses that came in the kit. I didn't perceive it as a hazard area, but will look closer now.
Thanks for looking at it.

Posted by: pneuhyde Nov 10 2014, 12:20 AM

QUOTE(Philip W. @ Oct 23 2014, 10:25 AM) *

QUOTE(euro911 @ Oct 23 2014, 01:52 PM) *

QUOTE(pneuhyde @ Oct 22 2014, 08:55 PM) *
Is it WRONG, if you refurbish a Targa top, install new Targa top holders in the trunk,
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AND THEN FIND OUT THE TRUNK LID WONT CLOSE ALL THE WAY ????????
Where is it hitting, Steve? ... front or rear?

in the picture it looks like the front is not sitting down like it should. Maybe the latches are not in the cups? the front edge of the top should be in the plastic retaing clips. if they are the top should fit fine.

Mark/Phillip,
I had not seen your comments until tonight.
I am not sure where it was hitting as I have not got back to it yet. I have been concentrating on the interior and put the top back on to protect my work done so far. I was concerned about the latches hitting the cups awkwardly, but thought as long as it was fitted in the front holders it would be placed properly.
Thanks for looking at it

Posted by: 76-914 Dec 7 2014, 10:30 AM

I replaced a small fuse block with a larger one. Then spent the next 45 min's trying to figure out why it wouldn't crank. I had re-connected the fuse block feed to a switched source and the switched source ain't going to work if it has no power. slap.gif Once that was straightened out I noticed my backup lights are on and the engine is off. I had tied that back into a Bat+ circuit. headbang.gif Pendejo burro.gif

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