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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ Grinds into 2nd, adjusted cable but now chatters

Posted by: RazorbackFan78 May 2 2013, 08:45 AM

I'm in my garage thinking "At what point do I stop adjusting this clutch cable nut and go ahead with buying the bushings super kit at Pelican Parts.

Here's a little history: Bought it in March. PO had very little backstory on it.

She grinded going into 2nd gear every time unless I let the rpm's drop nearly to zero. I adjusted the clutch cable nut (remembering the issues I had with my 74' over a decade ago). But ran out of threads before eliminating the grind. So I've added the spacer as recommended by many folks on the forum.

With spacer added, I'm tightening a few turns, driving it, and repeating.

The grind into 2nd is nearly gone...its more like a quick 'clunk' sound as I shift into 2nd. But now I'm noticing a "chatter" after I've shifted into 2nd gear at higher rpms. The chatter dies down as the rpms fall

Now I'm worried that I've over-adjusted it and perhaps my 2nd gear grind can't be solved with a simple nut adjustment. Any direction from the forum would be appreciated.

Here's a pic of the cable and nut position with spacer.

http://s1364.photobucket.com/user/razorbackfan78/media/IMAG0797_zps360430c9.jpg.html
http://i1364.photobucket.com/albums/r724/razorbackfan78/IMAG0797_zps360430c9.jpg


Posted by: kg6dxn May 2 2013, 09:33 AM

eeeww dirty!

Sounds like you need a second gear syncro. And a good power washing. And fix the oil leaks.

Time to rebuild the tranny...

Posted by: pt_700 May 2 2013, 09:38 AM

i agree with mike, you're 2nd gear syncro is probably bad. mine's the same (although my grime's a bit less caked on?). kind of frustrating in traffic, having to shift to 2nd so carefully...

proper fix is a rebuild. you might get some relief with a fluid change. my tranny shifted a bit better after a refill with redline synthetic gear oil. varying opinions here on that stuff...

welcome to the madness!

Posted by: r_towle May 2 2013, 09:59 AM

Have you checked your clutch tube to make sure its correctly attached?

Do you grind going into first or reverse?

rich

Posted by: RazorbackFan78 May 2 2013, 10:29 AM

QUOTE(r_towle @ May 2 2013, 10:59 AM) *

Have you checked your clutch tube to make sure its correctly attached?

Do you grind going into first or reverse?

rich


There are no issues going into and out of 1st or Reverse. I haven't visually inspected the clutch tube but I pulled up the carpet to see if the linkage was flexing like a snake when shifting through the gears (I read in another post that if it's flexing like a snake it's usually a good indicator of a broken clutch tube). It was rigid with no flex. I figured I'd cross that fun bridge when/if I replaced all the bushings.

Posted by: RazorbackFan78 May 2 2013, 10:39 AM

Yep I'm trying to find a place around here that does engine steam cleaning. I'm a little leery of the powerwasher-driveway scenario. I'm imagining the mess would be EPIC!

Well guys, thanks for the feedback. A tranny rebuild was my worse case scenario. I'll try changing fluid (i'm guessing it's +3yrs old if the PO never changed it). If that doesn't cure it, I'll start searching the threads for tranny suppliers headbang.gif

Posted by: The Cabinetmaker May 2 2013, 02:18 PM

Having that clutch cable too tight can cause you a lot of problems with the clutch.


Dr Evil can fix your tranni woes.

Posted by: The Cabinetmaker May 2 2013, 02:22 PM

After a second look at the exxon valdez it appears the clutch fork is at half of its travel already. I suspect the pivot ball needs a shim under it to achieve full travel of the fork.

Posted by: Dr Evil May 2 2013, 05:15 PM

I agree with both, your pivot ball may need a shim, but its lack has caused yoru 2nd to be worn out and it needs a change. sad.gif

Posted by: Mblizzard May 3 2013, 09:52 PM

Go with the Dr! But also check your oil level in the trans. Looking at the grim it has to be low.

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