Hummer has an incredible deal on 2005 Hummer H2s right now until the end of the month.
$599 lease (+tax) for 36 months, 36,000 miles, through GMAC. $1275 due at signing.
Applies to Hummer H2, with Luxury package.
I ran the numbers and this is what it basically comes down to...
Sticker is$56,900...
Car comes down to about $2.5K less than invoice after rebates (about $49K)
60% residual value (which is really phenomenal)
Money factor equivalent to 3.9%
With the money you save, you can spend on GAS!!!!
why the hell would you want a gmc yukon with a hummer body on it. all the crappyness of a new chevy with the high pricetag of a hummer with none of the cool off road features of the original. H2
We have a Suburban now and love it... same as the Yukon. We have had Zero problems since new and it hauls a shitload of stuff around, including a 20' fishing boat.
You wanna spend $65K on an Escalade that is just a rebadged overpriced Suburban?
Or better yet, $115K on the H1 that you can't park anywhere? Yes the H1 is an incredible vehicle, but not at $115K.
The H2 can do A LOT more than a Yukon or Suburban can. It is especially good at chugging gas. They don't even post the MPG on the window sticker. It's rated as a Class 3 vehicle. My neighbor's gets about 12 mpg on the highway. Our Suburban gets about 15.
I looked at the new Jeep Cherokee yesterday at the Central Florida Auto Show and laughed. It is couple inches shorter than the older Cherokees. I walked right by it looking for it in the Jeep area. I thought it was some sort of transitional SUV.
my uncle has a surplus h1 humvee... 30k out the door... 50 caliber not included
Hey Qarl,
Take the Titan for a ride! Infact tell the dealer You need to run an errand. Hook up your boat and tow it around for a while. But be sure it's secured well or the torque of the Mighty Titan will whip that trailer out from under that boat like a table cloth from under the dishes in a magic trick!
Come to think of it, the Titan motor (305 HP) would make one hot 914 conversion!
There's a guy on my block with a H2.
His wife calls it his "penis-truck".
Paul
Your neighbor's penis must be big then!
My wife drives our SUV. I just borrow it for towing the boat!
I guess an H1 may cost 115 new, but just look on autotrader, they can be had for 60K or less all day long for low milage ones...
Sorry, but I agree with the others, 56K for a yukon with a shitty body kit is a joke, for that kinda money I am buying a King ranch edition F350 that can pull your house down and get 15-18mpg while doing it...not to mention the sweet king ranch leather couches that you are sitting on...
The H2 is the biggest poser vehical to come out, and I think will be only passed by the H3 that I hear is coming out and will be based on the blazer platform...woohoo...
I can't wait till the H3 and the X3 drive-with-cell-phone-while-watching-the-in-dash-dvd-and-weave-in-and-out-of-traffic contests begin on I-35...
Ahhh...time for my 5th
Tony
Hmm... The Kingranch is a pickup truck... with larger cab.... not an SUV'
It has kick-ass leather seats though... I sat in one at the auto show.
I didn't care much for the stoopid-ass six-inch "King Ranch" plaque on the side of the vehicle.
I was really impressed with the Sequoia from Toyota. It's based on the Tundra platform I believe.
I WANT a double cab Tundra!
Yeah...the king ranch does have a bed...but I believe that both the yukon and surburban share the chevy truck frame, so they are all "trucks"... but I get what you are saying...personally I would have no use for a vehicle that big that didn't have a bed also, and I would bet that the crew cab pickup holds almost as many as the H2...
Regardless, I agree, the big ass badge on the side was a little much...
Tony
Well.... all I can say is that my wife deserves it!
It's her vehicle and she uses it to be SuperMom. We don't go offroad, and I only tow a small boat short distances. Basically it's a large SUV for the wifey.
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Karl I figured that with a Lotus in one garage you might want another limey rig in the other garage, ALA Range Rover.
CCLINACROSSTHEPONDVEHICLES
We looked at the Range Rovers... the one we liked was the $$$$$$ one.
The other's we didn't care for. We know a few people that have had tremendous issues with theirs (especially the brakes).
Regards,
Qarl
KMEINIGOTTOOMANYFRIGGINCARS
No. Phoenix gas for premium is ~$2.25/gal. I seriously doubt if H2's will be holding a 60% residual value in the next two years (or any of our other gas guzzlers.
Gint needs a Hummer today. He's trying to make it to this side of the Rockies. We got 9" last night.
60% residual was determined by GMAC after 3 years. I'm not obligated to buy it for that. My wife usually trades for something new by then anyways. If it's worth 40%, I just return it. It's their loss, not mine. It just helped me a lot in the lease.
Despite all of the recent gas price hikes, our local dealer is stull pushing 50 to 60 H2s per month!
The other good new is that I can stick regular grade gas in it, vs. mid-grade or premium.
Our dealer recommended mid-grade on the Suburban. I average 15 mpg highway in it. Mid-grade is $2.09 here. Equals $0.1393 per mile
The H2 averages 12 mpg highway. Regular is about $1.95 here. Equals $0.1625 per mile.
Wifey averages 10,000 miles per year, so the extra consumption totals $232 per year to operate the Hummer.
It's not as bad as I thought. Believe me, I played around with all of the figures!
H2s are lame. Yuppy tanks they are, im tired of seeing stupid white men and women running around in the tri valley with 18-19" rims thinking theyre cool while unable to keep to their own damn lane. Look H2s are overpriced gm crap. They have destroyed the integrity of the hummer brand. My more than 10 year old FORD BRONCO with a 5 liter motor smoked that one of those POS's twice off the line. So much for the 6.0l motor and its "amazing torque". And i wont look like a yuppy asshole towing a trailer behind my truck either. SUVs are for mormon families and the like. I bought a TRUCK with a short wheelbase and 2 doors, the bronco came about before anyone had even coined the term 'SUV', and ill be doing whatever i can to distance my vehicle from the term as most of what ive seen called SUVs in the last few years are trash, M320s, FX45s, h2s, mercedes G-box-things, escalades, yukons, tahoes, i hate em all.
how do you really feel?
doood, i'm struggling to find the connection between mormon families and SUV's...
get a real cause.
If I had the scratch right now I'd probably get a H2. I like the tonka truck styling. Had a Range Rover - CRAP! Never again, talk about depreciation Let me tell you how much $ I spent on maintenance and repairs in the RRs 7th year of life Traded it for the Durango and couldn't have been happier
The Durango's are very nice. They have grown on me too. They have large SUV styling too...
Sean's is nice. It's good for hauling ice and beer and getting lost on the highway on-ramps.
The Hummer is just a bling bling toy, 90% of the owners have a garage full of other toys too.
It CAN do some neat offroad stuff, but it's not meant to do everything the H1 does (which is really a military vehicle and costs twice as much). The salesman showed me a photo of an H2 some lady accidentally used to back up over a Lexus during a test drive. The rear of the H2 was actually up on the hood of the Lexus. Oops!
It's amazing how people are so quick to jump all over and slam the Hummer as a P.O.S. Those people must be really insecure. I never said we needed it for what a pickup truck does, or that it's suppoed to be the king of offroad vehicles. Read the first post. It's about an incredible deal through GMAC on this SUV!
I must like vehicles with controversial styling (914, Lotus Elise, new BMW 5-series, Hummer).
Did you know the H2 is a couple of inches shorter in length than a Honda Accord and only four inches wider than the Suburban?
And yes... it drives really nice. It is quieter inside then our Suburban, the pickup and acceleration is comparable to the Suburban. It turns quite nicely too. The interior is really comfortable and is what an SUV should be.
We looked at all of the SUV interiors at the auto show last Friday. I was not impressed at all witht he Ford Products. Too plasticy. I always look at the glove box door and see how flimsy it does or doesn't feel.
The GM and Dodge products were better. Nissan products looked very plasticy inside too.
I was, however, very impressed with the Toyota and Lexus interiors in their truck/SUV line.
I saw the H3 in person yesterday at the Phoenix AutoShow. Body deisign is OK, not as good as the H2 but a nit rounder and softer... the family look is there and the wife thought it adorable. The interior looked boring, hope it was still a prototype. The lousy interior alone would kill about 50% of sales in my oppinion.
The H2 has a good design (as far as tying in to the H1) and the interior is unique and interesting looking. I think GM is losing sales on the MPG and the "image" created of the people who drive Hummers as beer swilling, gas guzzling, nascar watching, trailer trash with money (sort of like the image forced on many Porsche owners... we all must be rich snobish assholes).
If GM could eek out a few more MPG and work on the image issue of wanton consumption sales would easily double.
A comedian had a good joke about Hummer drivers. When they sign the paperwork they should be wacked on the back of the head only to wake up in Iraq. When they come to they are told, you can buy the Hummer, and drive it all you want, you just have to get the gas yourself.
Quite a difference "perception" of the average H2 owner here...
im sorry i left out explorers, navigators, expeditions, excursions..... look everyones entitled to their opinions. i just resent GMs use of the Hummer name and think my bronco is cooler than an H2 or any of the other suv's i mentioned.
in all seriousness, having lived in a suburban community, i have a problem with suv's. theres too many, and it seems that a lot of the people driving em are doing so for reasons that are hard to justify. like going shopping and running errands in a 6 liter SUV thats as big as most lanes. Qarl, you can call me asshole all ya want. i never directly called your wife a mormon or a yuppy, its a reference to my perception of h2 owner/drivers, and i understand when your wife wants something she probably gets it (SUV). im not trying to make enemies, i just love talking shit when it comes to cars/trucks. its all opinion so
as far as a 914 goes. im all about the fact that these cars were underappreciated in their time and have proven to be some of the most ax capable cars in existence. wine and cheese? hah! its a volkswagen! i dont care, one can join the PCA with a 914 and autocross it if they want respect from members of the porsche community.
in conclusion my Bronco is cooler than your H2.
My biggest complaint about the H2 was the fit and finish of the interior. For a 50-60K SUV, the interior felt like a Pontiac. A lot of plastic pieces and the vents and door handles felt very flimsy for a vehicle that costs so much.
This was when they FIRST came out. GM may have changed some of that by now, but I was not impressed.
The interior of a 20K Jetta seemed much better engineered and more solid. Kind of apples to oranges, but when you get inside, you're pretty much looking at the same things.
The Interiors have improved over the past couple of years. My neighbor's 03 is a bit different then the '05.
Monkei,
I appreciate your love for Ford Broncos, personally they're not for me.
I'm not trying to make "enemies" with anyone on this board either... but several of the posts on this thread can easily be perceived as a bit "disrespectful", including yours.
There is a way to make your point without sounding like an a$$ about it.
It's this type of, "My way is right and you suck" attitude that has made 914club a not-so-friendly place over the past 3-4 months.
Okay I am curious, if you have a flat tire on a Hummer, who changes it?? It looks to me like you need a crane to left the spare and the flat tire.
There was also some talk of rust and corrosion on the undercarriage, or did that get taken care of??
See alot of them (hummers)in Calif. the ones that kill me are thes with 26 inch wheels that are slammed.
My 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Ltd, is still getting the job done for me, and I am going to be hard pressed to find an acceptable replacement.
CCLINTOEACHTHEREOWN
When the hurricanes were coming this year we ran over and picked up a H2 for 2 weeks. Someone at work got a pickup stuck above the axels on our 5 mile dirt road to a remote site. We hooked the H2 up and pulled the PU like a slead. The 4 wheel drive does work.
christ! whatever.
This may or may not be of interest to you guys, found using Google:
Auto dealerships across the country are cashing in on a federal economic stimulus package signed into law by President Bush in late May, 2003. It contains what seems like a gift from Uncle Sam too good to be true. The $330 billion tax-cut plan allows small-business owners and the self-employed to write off the entire cost of vehicles that weigh 6,000 pounds or more.
That means doctors, lawyers and other self-employed professionals can buy a $75,000 Hummer H2, for example, and write off the purchase price as a business expense.
The Bush tax package raised the deduction for business equipment from $25,000 to $100,000. The tax cut was originally intended to help farmers and ranchers buy pickup trucks. But the evolution of SUVs, considered not cars but "light trucks," opened the way for other business owners to claim the deduction.
My wife and I have a Cherokee classic, one of the last before the Liberty came out. Love it, tough as nails straight 6, 20mpg. Just one tough rig and not too big for her to drive around. This Jeep however was my second choice family SUV. I couldn't quite convince the wife to pick up one of these babies!
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i can't believe people pay that much for a vehicle that doesn't even have an independent rear suspension. h2 has nothing in common with a real hummer.
Qarl,
Don't you own your own business? Get a surburban or your h2 and write off the 50 grand it costs this year. The suv exemption for s- corps ends this year. If you want the ultimate suv get this one.
Buck
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WTF is that?
Dan those Unimogs are awsome, had a friend that had one in Costa Rica. Lot's of rivers to cross in the rainy season. That thing could go anywhere.
As far as the H2 or any other LARGE SUV goes I just have one real bitch, just because you have a large car that does not give you the right to take up more than one parking place. Learn how to drive it and park it correctly and I have no problem.
Oh and by the way for all the rover bashers out there I have a '94 Land Rover Discovery that has 175,000 miles and going like a champ. Yes the 3.9 is not that fast but damn this thing will go anywhere, and I love pulling people out of the ditch in the winter.
I honestly think the H2 is the biggest piece of $&^%$&^, waste of space, expression of American greed ever created.
and I've had a bunch of SUV's, so its not one of those arguments. here's the thing,
-its got no space inside considering its size outside (unless you get the 2k outside spare tire option! which 99% of owners couldnt use because, guess how much that tire weighs... (especally the bling blingers with the 22s)
-it's not 1/2 the off road machine people think it is because, it's too big, has too little app angle, etc etc....
-it's about 10k over priced (which is good for GM but bad for anyone who buys one)
-its cheap as hell inside-but yet costs 55-65k!
-it gets extremely pook MPG-which then negatively impacts is one positive which is solid towing platform...
If you want a big suv-Get a suburban- it's cheaper, nicer, holds more, costs less, tows just as well, gets better mpg, and generally is better in all ways! and I think they look cool as well
If you want an off road vehicle, get a Jeep, a landrover, or a used H1
If you want to make GM rich (which is fine with me!) get an H2-and then trade it in in 3 months when you find out what a piece of shit it is.
Have you seen the FUH2.com website? Pretty funny, 145 pages of people flipping-off Hummers. Seems like a waste of web space.
http://www.fuh2.com/submissions.php
How about this new SUV from International Harvester
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http://www.pinzgauerus.com/pinzgallery.html
Thats real 4wd and aircooled, and simple!
One of my neighbors imports them and sells them for 10K ready to go...
I have seen one put both a new H2 Hummer as well as the old version in their place, then had to pull them out!!
I am working a trade for one of them now
Arent those IH trucks over 100k? I see some navigator in there too.
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Man you guys are harsh. I would think you would at least lay off after he bought it. I am not a huge fan, but what the hell if he likes it why not. They are plenty off road capable, and were never meant to compete against it's big brother. They get bad gas milage, but so do alot of vehicles. For some reason they never get flipped off though. Maybe it's the name... If he said he just bought a big block Dodge charger, you would give him a thumbs up, even though he would be getting even worse gas milage, it's not about the mileage. As for the mormon comment.... WTF?
I test drove an H2 earlier this year; it has NO HEADROOM...NONE, and I'm only 6'1"!!! I was thinking about buying one but it's a lot like driving my '99, 3/4 ton, 4X4 Suburban only without the headroom or the big block (454)! I do believe that GM now owns the Hummer brand so they can call them whatever they want. They have been supplying the engines/trannies since the beginning so in essence, they were Chevies from birth! Wait 'til the new "Alpha" versions of the H1 and H2 hit the streets; this new H1 will finally be powered by the Duramax diesel and Allison transmission! Not sure what's in store for the H2; if it was up to me...the 8.1 (496 cu. in.) big block would be under the hood (the front half of the H2's frame comes from a 3/4 ton pick-up so the 8.1 should/would bolt right in). Small block/"Mouse motors" are nice but once you get used to the torque of a big block/"Rat motor", nothing else will do (Whipple Superchargers claims their blower/intercooler kit will produce over 800 ft.lbs. when installed on an 8.1)!!! Personally, I'm thinking of a 3/4 ton, 4X4 Avalanche. Yeah, it's ugly...but I'm thinking of the beauty (8.1) under the hood...then I could dream of a trip to Fresno (Whipple).
Ron
I had a 94 and then a 97 H1 as company vehicles. We had lots of problems with axle seals blowing, but I loved the trucks. The 94 was the stock diesel, the 97 was a fully loaded (run flat, welder, killer stereo, leather) turbo diesel. After putting 40k a year on these trucks, I felt I knew them pretty well. We also spent one week a year up in south bend at the test track. It was amaizing what those in the know (the designer/engineer types) could do with those trucks. I was really dissapointed after driving an H2. As far as capabilities go, I feel they are mini vans compared to the original. I even have a hard time calling them over dressed Suburbans - as I like the Surburban! The below pic was taken at winterpark - I was actually driving down from the top of the ski area. We would release the air from all four tires and the thing would climb right up the hill. We would then have a demo day (I was with Volant). At night, we would wait until the patrol cleared the area and creep back down. We would then hit the button to re-inflate the tires and be on our way. That truck held 45 pair of mounted skis, a 10x10 easy-up tent and all my tools and such - including my Swix bench. (We removed the rear seats and built in very cool racks - and I had a Thule box on the roof). They were great trucks. This is a pic of the 94.....
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Scott that is a very cool pic, fun driving in snow when it is bumber height.
Are you still in the ski industry?
Nope - I left in 2001 after nearly 20 years being involved either as an athlete or on the corporate side. Volant was sold to *gulp* HUFFY - then to Atomic.
It is a very fake industry, an industry that likes to pretend it's very important, and likes thumbing it's nose to it's "lesser" customers. It's basically a barter system at every level, designed to create an image, nobody pays for anything. It is very sad - especially when the real point of being involved usually starts simply with a love of the sport. It is also very incestual - everyone is married to, divorced from, dating or simply sleeping with everbody else. A lot of weight is put on past achievments within the industry - usually based on racing (no matter how young you were when you miraculously(sp) beat Tomba). There is a ton of name dropping and lots of comparing knee surgery scars (you know, the one that kept you from going to the olympics/pro/beating AJ/etc...). I would almost go as far as saying it is it's own culture.
Sorry for the rant - I could go on for pages. I'll just say that I can't tell you how nice it is to go skiing these past few years without any sort of logo embroidered on my back. It's fun again.
Hijack continuing:
So let us know how you really feel. I've heard similar from friends and relatives in the industry.
So are you a long time Colorado person? Just curious I have a couple of cousins that are from Summit County and were ski racers- Brett and Casey Snyder. Know em?.
Wow - those names sound really familiar. What age are they? I am 36, my last FIS race was in 1988. I was with Volant from 1990 to 2001. Our family has a house in Dillon (Keystone ski area), which is in the heart of Summit County. I cant imagine our paths havent crossed at some point. I'll bet you a buck that they know Annie Black and Heinz Streicher. Also throw out Jim Diness and Schultz Greenburg.
DO you visit out here much? If so PM me, we can go play in the snow and talk about rusty cars!
I have been here since 81.
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