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Posted by: malcolm2 Jul 10 2013, 08:14 AM

I need to turn the engine by hand to verify my static timing. Does anyone have a way to do that with no axles, wheels etc...with the engine and transmission in the car? New P/C and rings, valves and springs so everything is pretty tight.

Thanks

Posted by: r_towle Jul 10 2013, 08:28 AM

two bolts in one transmission flange, then slip a bar between the bolts and lay it at an angle on the ground to hold that flange still.

Two bolts in the other flange, then use that flange with the car in 4th or 5th gear turning it backwards, that will turn the motor forwards.

DO NOT use the fan hub bolt...it could easily break off.

rich

Posted by: malcolm2 Jul 10 2013, 09:01 AM

QUOTE(r_towle @ Jul 10 2013, 09:28 AM) *

two bolts in one transmission flange, then slip a bar between the bolts and lay it at an angle on the ground to hold that flange still.

Two bolts in the other flange, then use that flange with the car in 4th or 5th gear turning it backwards, that will turn the motor forwards.

DO NOT use the fan hub bolt...it could easily break off.

rich


I was leaning in that direction. Someone mentioned the alternator nut. I lightly tried it and it only tightened the nut.

Posted by: nathansnathan Jul 10 2013, 10:48 AM

On a bus engine the alternator nut is the way it's done. You may have to pull up on the belt against the fan shroud to overcome compression making it want to slip. It's a 22mm.

Posted by: michael7810 Jul 10 2013, 11:52 AM

A box end wrench on the alternator works great

Posted by: malcolm2 Jul 10 2013, 06:15 PM

QUOTE(r_towle @ Jul 10 2013, 09:28 AM) *

two bolts in one transmission flange, then slip a bar between the bolts and lay it at an angle on the ground to hold that flange still.

Two bolts in the other flange, then use that flange with the car in 4th or 5th gear turning it backwards, that will turn the motor forwards.

DO NOT use the fan hub bolt...it could easily break off.

rich



This works but you said to turn the flange backwards and the engine goes forward. I turn mine forward and the rotor button goes clockwise....forward right?

I read in one of the manuals about valve adjustment and they go backwards so you can get #1 then #2 then put the rocker cover back on.

Posted by: r_towle Jul 10 2013, 07:30 PM

When I do the valves, I recall turning the wheel backwards.....might be wrong though.


Posted by: malcolm2 Jul 10 2013, 07:34 PM

QUOTE(r_towle @ Jul 10 2013, 08:30 PM) *

When I do the valves, I recall turning the wheel backwards.....might be wrong though.


As long as I am not hurting anything manually turning either way and it seems like "everybody does it", so I am good and have a way to manually rotate the engine.

To be safer I went to ACE and got some regular ole bolts to screw into the flanges. Did not want to use the CV bolts.

Posted by: r_towle Jul 10 2013, 08:35 PM

Take the plugs out, it's a lot easier to turn.

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