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Posted by: Razorbobsr Sep 4 2013, 06:11 AM
This past weekend the wife and I started a 400 mile trip to see her folks, half way there we stopped for potty time. When we departed my tranny shifting had become very hit and mostly miss, I fought this prob for the next 200 miles. AM inspection finds a brass bushing at the tranny end had started breaking up allowing ALOT of slop to confuse the driver[me] as to what gear I was in, and mostly not in! What is this bushing called? Best way to replace? I have fair skills, 40 by 40 shop, time, books. PS. The car ran very well over the 400 miles, and is ' For Sale' Bob Arnett
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Posted by: Woody Sep 4 2013, 06:16 AM
Is the bushing outside the trans? Maybe you can post a picture? Replacing bushings is not a big deal. Do a search, there are plenty of topics on it.
Posted by: Bartlett 914 Sep 4 2013, 07:49 AM
The bushing at the shift console is normally a plastic one. Brass is after market. Installation should be a tight fit. It is pressed in place. If you heat it in boiling water and installing while hot, it goes pretty fast. Unfortunately, the opening in the console gets worn when the old bushing wiggles around. The new one may fit loose. Dont forget to order new cone screws (2)
Posted by: Razorbobsr Sep 5 2013, 04:56 AM
QUOTE(Woody @ Sep 4 2013, 08:16 AM)
Is the bushing outside the trans? Maybe you can post a picture? Replacing bushings is not a big deal. Do a search, there are plenty of topics on it.
Outside the tranny, at the end of the long shift rod, just before the right turn to the tranny. Bob
Posted by: Razorbobsr Sep 5 2013, 04:59 AM
QUOTE(Bartlett 914 @ Sep 4 2013, 09:49 AM)
The bushing at the shift console is normally a plastic one. Brass is after market. Installation should be a tight fit. It is pressed in place. If you heat it in boiling water and installing while hot, it goes pretty fast. Unfortunately, the opening in the console gets worn when the old bushing wiggles around. The new one may fit loose. Dont forget to order new cone screws (2)
Cone screws? No consol, this is at the end of the long shift rod just before it turns to shift knuckle. Bob
Posted by: jimkelly Sep 5 2013, 05:42 AM
you have a
tail shift trans
or
side shift trans
i'm assuming TS
thus you don't have this console?
Posted by: jimkelly Sep 5 2013, 05:43 AM
and you do have this?
Posted by: Bartlett 914 Sep 5 2013, 07:12 AM
QUOTE(Razorbobsr @ Sep 5 2013, 05:59 AM)
QUOTE(Bartlett 914 @ Sep 4 2013, 09:49 AM)
The bushing at the shift console is normally a plastic one. Brass is after market. Installation should be a tight fit. It is pressed in place. If you heat it in boiling water and installing while hot, it goes pretty fast. Unfortunately, the opening in the console gets worn when the old bushing wiggles around. The new one may fit loose. Dont forget to order new cone screws (2)
Cone screws? No console, this is at the end of the long shift rod just before it turns to shift knuckle. Bob
Here is a shift console for a side shift transmission. The cone screws are the set screws that are at each end of the shift rod. Fully remove them. Do not just loosen them to remove the shift rod. When you see them, they are pointed to a cone.
The bushing in question is seen on the left. This one is an after market one. It is using a snap ring. I may have made that one. Normally they are just plastic with fingers that snap the bushing in place.
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Posted by: Dr Evil Sep 5 2013, 02:15 PM
If it was modified with a brass bushing, you may just need to re-JB weld the bushing back in. People widen the hole for this sometimes and a plastic bushing will not fit.
Posted by: bandjoey Sep 5 2013, 02:31 PM
Emergency repair for next time - garden hose bushing. Insert through housing and zip tie on both sides to the shift bar. Nice Car. Don't sell- you'll regret it later
Posted by: Razorbobsr Sep 6 2013, 06:36 AM
QUOTE(jimkelly @ Sep 5 2013, 07:42 AM)
you have a
tail shift trans
or
side shift trans
i'm assuming TS
thus you don't have this console?
Tale shift tranny. Bob
Posted by: Razorbobsr Sep 6 2013, 06:41 AM
QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Sep 5 2013, 04:15 PM)
If it was modified with a brass bushing, you may just need to re-JB weld the bushing back in. People widen the hole for this sometimes and a plastic bushing will not fit.
Brass bushing has broken up, how can u tell if hole has been widen?
Posted by: Razorbobsr Sep 6 2013, 06:44 AM
QUOTE(Bartlett 914 @ Sep 5 2013, 09:12 AM)
QUOTE(Razorbobsr @ Sep 5 2013, 05:59 AM)
QUOTE(Bartlett 914 @ Sep 4 2013, 09:49 AM)
The bushing at the shift console is normally a plastic one. Brass is after market. Installation should be a tight fit. It is pressed in place. If you heat it in boiling water and installing while hot, it goes pretty fast. Unfortunately, the opening in the console gets worn when the old bushing wiggles around. The new one may fit loose. Dont forget to order new cone screws (2)
Cone screws? No console, this is at the end of the long shift rod just before it turns to shift knuckle. Bob
Here is a shift console for a side shift transmission. The cone screws are the set screws that are at each end of the shift rod. Fully remove them. Do not just loosen them to remove the shift rod. When you see them, they are pointed to a cone.
The bushing in question is seen on the left. This one is an after market one. It is using a snap ring. I may have made that one. Normally they are just plastic with fingers that snap the bushing in place.
Whats the round org thing in your pic? Bob
Posted by: Bartlett 914 Sep 6 2013, 11:09 AM
QUOTE(Razorbobsr @ Sep 6 2013, 07:44 AM)
QUOTE(Bartlett 914 @ Sep 5 2013, 09:12 AM)
QUOTE(Razorbobsr @ Sep 5 2013, 05:59 AM)
QUOTE(Bartlett 914 @ Sep 4 2013, 09:49 AM)
The bushing at the shift console is normally a plastic one. Brass is after market. Installation should be a tight fit. It is pressed in place. If you heat it in boiling water and installing while hot, it goes pretty fast. Unfortunately, the opening in the console gets worn when the old bushing wiggles around. The new one may fit loose. Dont forget to order new cone screws (2)
Cone screws? No console, this is at the end of the long shift rod just before it turns to shift knuckle. Bob
Here is a shift console for a side shift transmission. The cone screws are the set screws that are at each end of the shift rod. Fully remove them. Do not just loosen them to remove the shift rod. When you see them, they are pointed to a cone.
The bushing in question is seen on the left. This one is an after market one. It is using a snap ring. I may have made that one. Normally they are just plastic with fingers that snap the bushing in place.
Whats the round org thing in your pic? Bob
Missing is the steel part the shift rod is screwed into. It has a socket that the plastic (Orange) part slides into. Thar part presses on a ball that is on the shift rod coming out of the transmission. This plastic part also breaks. I could also be part of your problem. You need to get into this and look.
Posted by: rhodyguy Sep 6 2013, 11:28 AM
when was the last time you replaced ALL of the linkage related bushings to include the 2 that cradle the ball on the shift lever?
Posted by: Vysoc Sep 6 2013, 12:49 PM
I had a similiar problem with my 75 side shifter, I bought the shift bushing kit from Pelican, the plastic bushing at the firewall was toast as was the bushing inside the coupler. The bushing at the transmission was the brass one and was in good shape. After I did the repair the car shifted 100% better I was ecstatic with the $43.00 dollar investment.
The plastic bushing that goes in at the firewall, the one closest to the tunnel is easiest put in by dropping it in boiling water for 3 minutes, you can then snap it in place with one hand.
The coupler bushings can be put in by using a bolt and washers and a nut to pull it in place, use the SEARCH option and find the fix, the explanation is excellent and will save you hours. You can get the coupler on and off with a bench vise.
You have an easy fix and if done correctly why would you sell that beautiful car???
Good Luck!
Vysoc
Posted by: jimkelly Sep 6 2013, 01:12 PM
the orange thing is like a bushing or dampener I guess.
it goes on the console lever and is in between the console lever and the gizmo on the end of the shift rod.
Posted by: Razorbobsr Sep 6 2013, 01:35 PM
QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Sep 6 2013, 01:28 PM)
when was the last time you replaced ALL of the linkage related bushings to include the 2 that cradle the ball on the shift lever?
Never have, I thought slop was normal. LOL
Posted by: Razorbobsr Sep 6 2013, 01:36 PM
QUOTE(jimkelly @ Sep 6 2013, 03:12 PM)
the orange thing is like a bushing or dampener I guess.
it goes on the console lever and is in between the console lever and the gizmo on the end of the shift rod.
Dont got one on mine! Bob
Posted by: Razorbobsr Sep 6 2013, 01:38 PM
QUOTE(Vysoc @ Sep 6 2013, 02:49 PM)
I had a similiar problem with my 75 side shifter, I bought the shift bushing kit from Pelican, the plastic bushing at the firewall was toast as was the bushing inside the coupler. The bushing at the transmission was the brass one and was in good shape. After I did the repair the car shifted 100% better I was ecstatic with the $43.00 dollar investment.
The plastic bushing that goes in at the firewall, the one closest to the tunnel is easiest put in by dropping it in boiling water for 3 minutes, you can then snap it in place with one hand.
The coupler bushings can be put in by using a bolt and washers and a nut to pull it in place, use the SEARCH option and find the fix, the explanation is excellent and will save you hours. You can get the coupler on and off with a bench vise.
You have an easy fix and if done correctly why would you sell that beautiful car???
Good Luck!
Why am I selling, answer is IN the pic! LOL Bob
Vysoc
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Posted by: Java2570 Sep 6 2013, 02:00 PM
You have a tail shifter tranny on a '75? How about some photos of your tranny? Jon
Posted by: Razorbobsr Sep 7 2013, 06:56 AM
QUOTE(Java2570 @ Sep 6 2013, 04:00 PM)
You have a tail shifter tranny on a '75? How about some photos of your tranny? Jon
Will work on that today. Bob
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