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Posted by: double-a Dec 13 2004, 12:09 PM

purchased this car last night for the sum of $400. here's the good, bad and ugly.

1975 1.8
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rear trunk, no rust.
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front trunk/gas tank area. no rust.
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pass door. $%*#@ speakers!
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no cracks in dash or targa pad.
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ouch. smash.gif smash.gif smash.gif
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broken windshield. sad.gif
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engine bay, including many leaves, spiders and probably mice. but... no rust that i can find wink.gif
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hell hole. surface rust, no holes. battery tray has surface rust but only pinholes.
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beneath pass jack point, looks good.
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a very creative muffler repair biggrin.gif
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Posted by: double-a Dec 13 2004, 12:15 PM

so that's the story. since rust issues are very, very minor, i think i'll restore it rather than part it. first on the list is getting the engine started. it turns, but doesn't fire. next: the windshield i think. comments, suggestions and pointers welcome.

~a

Posted by: Rhodes71/914 Dec 13 2004, 12:15 PM

Looks like a good score, congrats!

Posted by: SirAndy Dec 13 2004, 12:18 PM

smilie_pokal.gif definitely a keeper !!!

cool.gif Andy

Posted by: sanman Dec 13 2004, 12:19 PM

Wish I could find a deal like that. does I run? Turn over ? whats the deal with the engine

Posted by: Root_Werks Dec 13 2004, 12:20 PM

Very good score! smilie_pokal.gif You paid $400 for it? I will give you $500 and come pick it up. laugh.gif I love that color! Looks like a 75'.

Got a picutre of the whole car?

Posted by: aircooledboy Dec 13 2004, 12:25 PM

You know what I want to say here. . . . . lol2.gif monkeydance.gif

It looks great. I realize you cant swing a dead cat out on the left coast without hitting a clean teener selling for $5, but that looks like a clean one. beerchug.gif

I wouldn't loose any sleep over the windshield. Very manageable do it yourself gig, or about 3 bills if you have to pay somebody.

Posted by: double-a Dec 13 2004, 12:34 PM

QUOTE(sanman @ Dec 13 2004, 10:19 AM)
does I run? Turn over ? whats the deal with the engine

yes, it's a 75 and it doesn't run. that presented us with some rather interesting logistical opportunities in trying to get it on the trailer.

engine does turn, but doesn't fire. most of the electrical seems to work though. other details can be found on this thread.

i wasn't sure what kind of orange it would be, but i think like it...

~a

Posted by: 914helo Dec 13 2004, 12:43 PM

Very good score! smilie_pokal.gif I like the Folgers muffler. laugh.gif Be careful when removing the trim pieces for the windshield. They bend reallyl, really easily. (I bent most of mine a couple of months ago removing them)

Posted by: vortrex Dec 13 2004, 12:43 PM

looks like a $4500 ebay car.

Posted by: J P Stein Dec 13 2004, 12:47 PM

"You've done well, pilgrim."

(Name that movie.)

Posted by: double-a Dec 13 2004, 12:49 PM

QUOTE(914helo @ Dec 13 2004, 10:43 AM)
Very good score! smilie_pokal.gif I like the Folgers muffler. laugh.gif Be careful when removing the trim pieces for the windshield. They bend reallyl, really easily. (I bent most of mine a couple of months ago removing them)

thankfully that won't be an issue, as most of the pieces appear to be missing already wacko.gif

the story behind the windshield is that the po was entering a parking area, and didn't notice a chain stretched across the entrance to keep cars out. the car is so short that the chain it hit the pass. side of the windshield. looks like the car wasn't driven much after that...

~a

Posted by: double-a Dec 13 2004, 12:50 PM

QUOTE(J P Stein @ Dec 13 2004, 10:47 AM)
"You've done well, pilgrim."

(Name that movie.)

i'm only 30 so i don't know the movie biggrin.gif but i bet a mr. john wayne was in it.

hey jp, drop by and see the car if you want since you're so close.

~a

Posted by: GWN7 Dec 13 2004, 01:11 PM

Nice score....keeper beerchug.gif

Non running car + trailer = comealong or winch

Posted by: jim912928 Dec 13 2004, 01:22 PM

Looks like a 1.8. I had a 75 1.8 that turned over, had spark at the plugs..but wouldn't fire. Here are some easy things to check on the ljets:

1. first, see if the injectors are firing, all you have to do is turn the engine on, with the distributer cap off open/close the points (don't use metal!)...you should hear the injectors clicking on/off

2. Is the fuel pump running? Fuel pump on the 1.8l's only run when air is passing through the MAF. If you don't hear the pump run while cranking, remove the air cleaner and push the flap in the MAF open..you should hear the fuel pump turn on. If it doesn't, check the fuel pump relay and check that you are getting 12v to the pump

3. also possible if you are not getting gas..that the flap in the MAF is stuck closed (they can do this from sitting).

5. If the pump is running and the MAF flap is free...your injectors maybe clogged. Squirt alittle starter fluid in the air cleaner box and see if you get some chugging...if you do either injectors are clogged, fuel line somewhere is clogged

Jim

Posted by: McMark Dec 13 2004, 01:52 PM

The windshield is super easy to replace and a good used one is only about $100. If I remember, I'll take a bunch of pictures when I put in my next windshield later this week.

Posted by: double-a Dec 13 2004, 02:34 PM

QUOTE(McMark @ Dec 13 2004, 11:52 AM)
The windshield is super easy to replace and a good used one is only about $100. If I remember, I'll take a bunch of pictures when I put in my next windshield later this week.

that would be awesome, i'd really appreciate that since i'd probably do the work myself. anyone know of any good sources for windshields & trim?

~a

Posted by: rdauenhauer Dec 13 2004, 02:42 PM

Are you gonna beat that fender or replace?

Posted by: TC/914 Dec 13 2004, 02:45 PM

That's a beautiful car for the money and then some, and a really smart looking pair of seats! I recently picked one up for $300.00 here on the East coast, but your's is WAY! WAY!! WAY!!! nicer than mine wil be when it DONE! Let alone right now . . .

"yes, it's a 75 and it doesn't run. that presented us with some rather interesting logistical opportunities in trying to get it on the trailer."

We always put in a fresh battery and crank the starter in first gear, the car chugs right up the ramps no problem.

Luck,

TC

Posted by: double-a Dec 13 2004, 02:48 PM

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no idea, i'm open to opinion on that one. it's banged up pretty good, and i'm afraid the lip won't come out right, since that's probably the trickiest part. i'm very handy, but have no experience with auto repair really. i have a hunch i'm about to learn quickly biggrin.gif

~a

Posted by: SLITS Dec 13 2004, 02:50 PM

QUOTE(J P Stein @ Dec 13 2004, 11:47 AM)
"You've done well, pilgrim."

(Name that movie.)

Ok ya old Phart

"Jermiah Johnson" - Robert Redford.......can't remember the ol' koots name that said the line, but he was covered in animal skins, eating squirrel, sitting in the snow.....sure he wasn't your double?

"You've done well Pilgrim..to have kept your knot for so long up here"

Posted by: J P Stein Dec 13 2004, 02:55 PM

QUOTE(SLITS @ Dec 13 2004, 12:50 PM)
QUOTE(J P Stein @ Dec 13 2004, 11:47 AM)
"You've done well, pilgrim."

(Name that movie.)

Ok ya old Phart

"Jermiah Johnson" - Robert Redford.......can't remember the ol' koots name that said the line, but he was covered in animal skins, eating squirrel, sitting in the snow.....sure he wasn't your double?

"You've done well Pilgrim..to have kept your knot for so long up here"

YOU WIN!......my undying respect & admiriation biggrin.gif

It's also a hell of a good movie.

Posted by: double-a Dec 13 2004, 02:59 PM

who's robert redford? biggrin.gif

Posted by: skline Dec 13 2004, 03:41 PM

Checking this thread by title, I thought you found another Howard or Slits. lol2.gif lol2.gif lol2.gif lol2.gif

Posted by: echocanyons Dec 13 2004, 05:42 PM

Aaron, congrats it looks like a great deal.

Could you post some more pictures of the plaid seats?

Posted by: bare 1 Dec 13 2004, 06:08 PM

Oh, those seats!!! Sceamin deal. my friend!!! I got a 72 same color. minus those gorgeous laugh.gif seats... Ill be watching for the windshield picsas I need to do mine too someday ,along with a few other things. I got to drive mine home though... for about 9 times as much!!! In a sense you just made a lot of money.

Posted by: SLITS Dec 13 2004, 06:50 PM

QUOTE(skline @ Dec 13 2004, 02:41 PM)
Checking this thread by title, I thought you found another Howard or Slits. lol2.gif lol2.gif lol2.gif lol2.gif

I've got three teeners that run.......to SF, MX and AZ and back...........not bad for an "another fossil dug up".

Now Scott, if we're gonna talk about something that's fossilized, should we mention "Shalon" or your "tool". chairfall.gif chairfall.gif chairfall.gif chairfall.gif

Ok, thread hijack over.....I'll post pics of the one I just bought.

Posted by: SpecialK Dec 13 2004, 08:26 PM

QUOTE(SLITS @ Dec 13 2004, 12:50 PM)
...can't remember the ol' koots name that said the line, but he was covered in animal skins, eating squirrel, sitting in the snow.....sure he wasn't your double?

"You've done well Pilgrim..to have kept your knot for so long up here"

Will Geer


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Posted by: SLITS Dec 13 2004, 09:54 PM

agree.gif Thank you - he reminded me of me biggrin.gif

Posted by: double-a Dec 14 2004, 12:21 AM

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Aaron, congrats it looks like a great deal.

Could you post some more pictures of the plaid seats?


i don't know if you're serious, because i think they're ugly, but here's a couple shots.

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Posted by: Porsche Rescue Dec 14 2004, 01:07 AM

That is a real score. Worth at least $3K, more if you can get it running.
Sorry I couldn't get by in time today. Maybe tomorrow.
Remember, car has been sitting 20 years. Gas tank, lines and injectors are likely solid with varnish. Don't try too hard to start until fuel system is checked and cleaned. Gas tank will probably have to come out. Then either clean it or get another from Camp 914.

First time I have seen orange plaid. Plaid cloth inserts were common in '75's and '76's. I have seen gray/black, red/black, green/black and here is a mint set of yellow/black from a one-owner car from Eugene, OR that was purchased by one of our members in Florida last fall.
The lady had custom made clear plastic removable covers made to protect them.


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Posted by: Bruce Allert Dec 14 2004, 01:28 AM

QUOTE(Porsche Rescue @ Dec 14 2004, 12:07 AM)

The lady had custom made clear plastic removable covers made to protect them.

.....makes mah ass sweat jes'thinnin'bout sit'n on plastique laugh.gif

Good Job Aaron. Shore is a purty colour.. I's likes Orange! clap56.gif

.....b

Posted by: J P Stein Dec 14 2004, 02:07 AM

I gots a mighty-fine gas tank that I just took outta my car.
Tip -top condition & cheep too.

Posted by: DNHunt Dec 14 2004, 08:02 AM

Damn, I use ta have some pants that looked just like those seats. I wore them on the street too. They were stylish.

Dave

Posted by: double-a Dec 14 2004, 09:43 AM

thanks guys, glad you like it. the color is starting to grow on me.

jp, i'll let you know on the gas tank. i might try to get it out today, i don't think there's very much gas in there. car needs a battery too.

dave, my parents have many pictures of me circa 1979 with gorgeous red and white plaid pants. icon8.gif

~a

Posted by: boxstr Dec 14 2004, 10:24 AM

AA if you have the windshield removed or do it yourself. Be very delicate with the trim. It is NLA, except from Roger Bray in GB, and then it is not cheap. I bought four sets to put away for future projects. The first set came "bent" , filed a claim and I then instructed Roger Bray to tape the next shipment to thin veneer, they arrived safe and sound.
Looks like a good score. Lots of fun stuff to keep you busy.
CCLINTRIMTIME

Posted by: double-a Dec 14 2004, 10:39 AM

QUOTE(boxstr @ Dec 14 2004, 08:24 AM)
AA if you have the windshield removed or do it yourself. Be very delicate with the trim. It is NLA, except from Roger Bray in GB, and then it is not cheap. I bought four sets to put away for future projects. The first set came "bent" , filed a claim and I then instructed Roger Bray to tape the next shipment to thin veneer, they arrived safe and sound.
Looks like a good score. Lots of fun stuff to keep you busy.
CCLINTRIMTIME

pulled the windhshield out last night. most of the trim was already missing, and some tape was the only thing holding the glass in. i didn't know this when i trailered it 20 miles, across the 205 bridge with high wind gusts. i'm surprised it didn't pop right off. only the bottom trim and one corner piece remains.

~a

Posted by: boxstr Dec 14 2004, 10:46 AM

AA that shirt looks like your seats laugh.gif
CCLINPLAIDPANTRY


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Posted by: double-a Dec 15 2004, 12:56 PM

cleaned up the engine bay a bit last night, sucked up a bunch of leaves and spiders, and here's a better look at the hole. no rust! smilie_pokal.gif smilie_pokal.gif smilie_pokal.gif

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~a

Posted by: Travis Neff Dec 15 2004, 01:27 PM

Looks like a great score, tub looks really gud! boldblue.gif

Far better getting a decent body (rust) and fixing up the engine and fender dents than starting with a fabulous looking/running car that needs surgery underneath. Price sounds great. If you need a bunch of tools, go to harbor freight and pile up. Stuff is cheap there (some inexpensive, some cheap), and pays for itself pretty quickly for one use jobs like hammer and dolly sets etc.

Sounds like you got lucky on the trailer ride home, I trailered mine to it's new home backwards on the trailer and forgot about the weak rear trunk pin. Needless to say I have a custom rear spoiler (wrapped up over the roof, broke the hinges, bent up the engine lid). Ahh, I miss portland and scooting across that bridge.

The performance MJB muffler is kewl too, very stealthy hiding the coffee can further up the tailpipe

Posted by: Eric_Shea Dec 15 2004, 01:36 PM

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i don't know if you're serious, because i think they're ugly, but here's a couple shots.


So is a 914... That's the beauty of it.

Those seats ROCK smilie_pokal.gif You should definately find a way to recover them in the original cloth!! beerchug.gif

Excellent find. Pat's crying in his beer... sad.gif

Posted by: double-a Dec 15 2004, 01:56 PM

QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Dec 15 2004, 11:36 AM)
You should definately find a way to recover them in the original cloth!! beerchug.gif

coincidentally, the lady that did the upholstery on our motor home this summer is going to drop by today to take pictures of the rv, for her brochure or website or something. i'll bet she can match that fabric. idea.gif

~a

Posted by: tat2dphreak Dec 15 2004, 03:27 PM

damn good buy man!!

Posted by: Boxster Bob Dec 16 2004, 10:11 PM

Aaron you have done more with that car in 3 days than I did in 20 years. I hope you are enjoying your project. My new to me P car will now be enjoying my garage. I gave your brother a card for a glass guy that maybe able to help you out. Call me if you want to talk.


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Posted by: boxstr Dec 16 2004, 10:31 PM

Bob Nice looking 986. Give some details. I have a 99 black/black.
CCLINBOXSTERBRIEFS


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Posted by: double-a Dec 22 2004, 12:18 AM

progress report! got her cleaned up a bit: hood off, interior out, windshield track cleaned real good, ready for new windshield.
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here's how we flushed the fuel lines, which were full of 20-year-old gas and who knows what else. feeder line from gas can through new fuel pump (thanks camp914! smile.gif ), through system, return line to milk jug.
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... and here's what came out of those lines. yum! icon8.gif
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got the rocker panels off too, for probably the first time in this car's life. found the usual pile of dirt, rocks and crap per side.
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and here's the passenger side longitudinal, cleaned up. i expected much worse, this looks great. biggrin.gif
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and finally, here's my little helper.
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that's all for now. mucho thanks to jim chambers for his help thus far. engine tune-up in the near future, hopefully we'll find out why the distributor is not sparking. confused24.gif

~a

Posted by: rhodyguy Dec 22 2004, 10:22 AM

that's really a clean car. must have been a relief when you pulled the rockers. how did you load all the pictures in 1 post?

kevin

Posted by: Porsche Rescue Dec 22 2004, 10:30 AM

Yeh, how did you do that?

Posted by: Justin Fischer Dec 22 2004, 10:55 AM

QUOTE (Porsche Rescue @ Dec 22 2004, 11:30 AM)
Yeh, how did you do that?

Linked images from his own website.

Great buy Aaron, I love the color.... Make sure the tank isn't rusted before reinstalling it. Good Luck.

-Justin

Posted by: double-a Dec 22 2004, 10:57 AM

QUOTE (rhodyguy @ Dec 22 2004, 08:22 AM)

that's really a clean car. must have been a relief when you pulled the rockers. how did you load all the pictures in 1 post?

kevin


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Yeh, how did you do that?


easy, but you have to have somewhere to host your images. i put them on my server and link to them using the bbs image tags.

yes, those rockers are beeeeyuteeful! IPB Image

~a

Posted by: double-a Dec 22 2004, 11:01 AM

QUOTE (Justin Fischer @ Dec 22 2004, 08:55 AM)
Linked images from his own website.

Great buy Aaron, I love the color.... Make sure the tank isn't rusted before reinstalling it. Good Luck.

-Justin

you're correct about the web hosting. but i will not under any circumstances use the old tank. it's gone man, gone. rusted beyond all recognition in there, i.e. about a half inch of sludge and rust. got a nice 'n shiny one from jp though!

~a

Posted by: Steve Dec 22 2004, 11:30 AM

IPB Image Deja vu!!
I had a 75 VW Scirroco with the same color and the same plad seat inserts.
At least I know the paint and seat material didn't go to waste when they dumped the 914 in favor of the Scirrocco

Posted by: Root_Werks Dec 22 2004, 12:56 PM

Wow, that is a clean car! I would just clean it up, fix the dent and enjoy! Doesn't look like it needs much of anything if you ask me. IPB Image

Posted by: double-a Dec 29 2004, 06:08 PM

making some progress. new windshield is in, $375 installed. guy said i got the last 914 windshield in the portland metro area. biggrin.gif

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~a

Posted by: boxstr Dec 29 2004, 10:58 PM

AA did you put in new trim clips before the windshield went in?? Or are you going to use a newer black push in trim. Like the Honda and other new cars have?? Just asking.
CCLINEMPIREGLASS

Posted by: double-a Dec 30 2004, 12:22 AM

QUOTE (boxstr @ Dec 29 2004, 08:58 PM)
AA did you put in new trim clips before the windshield went in?? Or are you going to use a newer black push in trim. Like the Honda and other new cars have?? Just asking.
CCLINEMPIREGLASS

no, the existing clips were all in really good shape, so i cleaned them up real good and left them in place. i was going to install oem aluminum trim, used or new, if i can find it for a price that won't break my bank.

got any? IPB Image

~a

Posted by: boxstr Dec 30 2004, 12:46 AM

Yes I do. And if you have to ask you can't afford it. IPB Image
CCLINCHROMETRIM

Posted by: double-a Dec 30 2004, 01:01 AM

QUOTE (boxstr @ Dec 29 2004, 10:46 PM)
Yes I do. And if you have to ask you can't afford it. IPB Image
CCLINCHROMETRIM

heh, i've heard that before somewhere, probably at the porsche dealership IPB Image

nevertheless, i'll need trim eventually, and i've heard that it almost "never" comes out without getting bent outta shape. so i may be looking at new ones anyway...

~a

Posted by: boxstr Dec 30 2004, 01:05 AM

Thats what I have. Let me know when you get that second mortgage approved. IPB Image
CCLINCHROMETRIM

Posted by: double-a Jan 3 2005, 09:58 AM

installed new german fuel and vacuum lines in the engine bay, new fuel lines in front too. also new distributor, rotor, points, condenser, plugs. and engine still no worky confused24.gif

we've narrowed it down to the injectors i think. they don't seem to be getting juice.

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~a

Posted by: jim912928 Jan 3 2005, 04:02 PM

I just went through my ljet this past summer, it's great once you get it nailed. First thing is if you know if the injectors are firing? Best way to this is to remove the distributer cap...points closed!...and with your finger or a non-conductive material (like a wood) open and close the points with the ignition on. You should hear each injector firing when you open the points. All injectors fire at the same time. If you hear clicking then they are firing (doesn't mean they are not clogged and thus not letting in any gas!). If they are clicking, the next test would be to see if they actually are getting fuel. Your fuel pump on an ljet doesn't run unless the MAF flap is opened. Do you know if it is stuck closed?. Easiest way to test this is to remove the air cleaner and hold the MAF flap open with your finger or a screw driver and then turn the ignition on. You should then hear the fuel pump running. If the fuel pump is not running then check the relay or the fuse on the relay board. Also check to make sure you are getting 12v at the pump (remember..have to have the flap open to check voltage).

If you injectors are clicking and your fuel pump is running, then the next thing to check is if you are actually getting fuel. To check if the injectors are clogged you need to pull the injector (easy...you have that retaining bolt and they pull out) and place it in a jar and pump the engine. You should get fuel. NOTE::::::pull the coil wire to the distributer before you do this as you want NO spark! If you get no fuel you either have a clog elswhere or the injectors are clogged. Test each injector and if you get nothing there then start backing up to see if it is clogged elsewhere to rule out the injectors.

Jim

p.s. also check to make sure you MAF is wired up to the injection harness!

Posted by: double-a Jan 3 2005, 04:20 PM

we've done quite a bit of what you have suggested. i installed all new plugs, cap, rotor, points, condenser, fuel pump, vacuum lines, fuel lines. additionally, the aux air valve works, cold start valve works, afm flap operates properly, injectors work (at workbench with 9v). fuel pressure is 37, compression is between 140 and 150 on all cylinders.

what's probably happening is that the injectors are not receiving spark, or if they do, it's intermittent for some reason. we'll figure it out today i think.

~a

Posted by: jim912928 Jan 3 2005, 04:53 PM

if you do that distributer test...opening and closing the points with the ignition on...you will definitely hear the injectors clicking...should be every time you open/close the points. If that isn't happening you may have an issue with the resister pack (check those wires...it hangs off the battery tray) or the wiring harness itself. It's unlikely that you have a ECM problem as those things are pretty rugged.

Posted by: double-a Jan 3 2005, 08:35 PM

update: it runs! smilie_pokal.gif smilie_pokal.gif smilie_pokal.gif

there were two culprits. craig laughlin put me on the right track for the first one. he suggested that it might be a loose wire on the resistor pack. this turned out not to be the case, however while i was down there i took a good look at the double relay. sure enough, on one of the plugs there was a wire that had worked loose, just happened to be the thick red wire from the battery. this explains why some injectors were working intermittently. the spade was making random contact whenver the plug or wiring was jostled. and we did a lot of jostling. biggrin.gif

the other culprit was the oil filler neck. the filler cap on l-jet is supposed to have a gasket to help it seat properly. this gasket was missing on my car, so we went to the local hardware store and picked up a decent o-ring that will work until i find the correct part number. btw, anyone know the part # for this seal?

gotta give props to jim chambers who drove over to my house from portland on several occasions to help me test a bunch of stuff. he checked the dwell and set the timing this afternoon after i got it running. also big thanks to craig laughlin for providing a new fuel pump and putting me on the trail of the injector problem. and thanks to all who gave me many suggestions on things to check.

so after not being fired for 20 years, it runs! not super smooth yet, but we'll get there. now all i need is new tires, some body work, a new muffler, and...

~a

Posted by: 2-OH! Jan 4 2005, 11:26 AM

Aaron:

I have a 73 that I'm going to take the windshield out of to refurb the car...The trim looks good, scratched but not bent...

I am not going to reuse it so it's yours if you want...The down side is you have to come take it off yourself (Just south of Seattle) as I have had no luck removing without bending in the past...

Let me know quick because I want the windshield out in this week to start on the clean-up...

2-OH!

Posted by: double-a Jan 12 2005, 12:02 PM

installed new fuel pump, fuel lines, fuel tank and sender. uninstalled rats nest of relays and wiring for the aftermarket fog lights.

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~a

Posted by: Series9 Jan 12 2005, 12:10 PM

Back to the chrome windshield trim. It's not really that expensive. I got a new set from PP for about $200.

Posted by: Root_Werks Jan 12 2005, 12:11 PM

IPB Image Wow, sure looks great! You are doing a great job. What a find! IPB Image

Posted by: Root_Werks Jan 12 2005, 12:12 PM

QUOTE (914RS @ Jan 12 2005, 10:10 AM)
Back to the chrome windshield trim. It's not really that expensive. I got a new set from PP for about $200.

I have a used set for $50, would probably need to be straigthened a little. Has all the pieces.

Posted by: double-a Jan 21 2005, 12:15 PM

whew! lotsa work to get this one roadworthy. during the brake bleeding process (which btw yielded brake fluid that was chocolate in color) i found out the mc was hemorrhaging fluid badly. here's a pic of the pedal cluster sitting in a lake of brake fluid. fluid had also migrated down the center tunnel. mucho fun...
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after cleanup, which involved a shop vac, dawn detergent, and lots of water.
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while i was under there, i also noticed a different paint color on the bottom dash metal. hmmm.
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anyone know what these wires do???? they weren't plugged in. i'm especially curious about the round one.
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the spring for the clutch pedal is broken, so i need a new one, or a new pedal cluster that's not coated with brake fluid and beginning to rust.
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jp would be so proud, i built myself some 12" cubes out of 3/4" plywood to set the car on. jackstands make me nervous too. biggrin.gif
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that's all for now. new 2.0 liter exhaust and ss exchangers comes in a few days, mueba.gif i need to get off my butt and remove the stock exhaust system.

~a

Posted by: boxstr Jan 21 2005, 12:35 PM

AA while youare in there you might as well throw a 19mm master cylinder at it. The round plug is for the EGR counter which sits up under the foam in the passeger footwell. The other wires I believe are for the optional center console gauges.
Looks good kepp at it.
The dash color is normal. most 914s had a different color dash inner structure than the outside car color.
CCLINDUMPWASTE

Posted by: Justin Fischer Jan 21 2005, 12:36 PM

I'm guessing the wires are for an appearance group center console (all except the round one). Buy yourself a pedal cluster rebuild kit, it will have all the springs and bushings you'll need.

Looking Good IPB Image

-Justin

Posted by: double-a Jan 21 2005, 12:43 PM

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AA while youare in there you might as well throw a 19mm master cylinder at it.

got one coming from hph, i was ordering new 2.0 ss exchangers and other exhaust bits from them and threw the mc into the order.

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The round plug is for the EGR counter which sits up under the foam in the passeger footwell. The other wires I believe are for the optional center console gauges.

ahhh, i wondered what that weird foam thingy was, i thought it looked like a smuggler's hole, a guy could hide a good sized pistol in there IPB Image or some sweet leaf IPB Image

so the wires are already there? i could add a console then IPB Image

~a

Posted by: rdauenhauer Jan 21 2005, 01:13 PM

Dbl-A, are you trlinvg up to Marysville? Is so I hav another Pedel cluster. The other problem w/ that leak is the OE bushings swell and stick the pedel action, ther fix is the bronze(ite) bush kit from various sources.

Posted by: double-a Jan 21 2005, 01:23 PM

QUOTE (rdauenhauer @ Jan 21 2005, 11:13 AM)
Dbl-A, are you trlinvg up to Marysville? Is so I hav another Pedel cluster. The other problem w/ that leak is the OE bushings swell and stick the pedel action, ther fix is the bronze(ite) bush kit from various sources.

don't think i can make it. i might just get the rebuild kit from pelican, or someone here on the forum if they've got it. but send me a pic of your cluster...

~a

Posted by: double-a Jan 31 2005, 05:51 PM

floorpan refinished and pedal cluster rebuilt with the great bushing kit from pelican. roll pin gave me no problems. this was before, with a moat of brake fluid. yuck! icon8.gif
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flaking paint and rust was ground off, masked, primed with etching primer and painted body color from rattle can.
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used a wire wheel to grind down the cluster parts, repainted the ones that were originally black.
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cluster, rebuilt.
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partially installed. dead sexy!
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Posted by: Porsche Rescue Jan 31 2005, 07:52 PM

Very nice work. I'll bring mine over tomorrow. Where did you find the nice matching rattle can paint?

Posted by: double-a Jan 31 2005, 08:15 PM

jim, i got the matching paint mixed at bob's paint land up at the intersection of 99 and hwy 99. great place, been around for years. i was there to get the etching primer and thought i might as well see if they can match signal orange. they had a manual with all the paint codes so it was a done deal. it's not exact, but good enuf for the floorpan. IPB Image

Posted by: J P Stein Feb 1 2005, 03:14 AM

I have the window trim out of my car. I ain't puttin' it back in.....come & git it if you still have the need......cheep!

Posted by: SpecialK Feb 1 2005, 03:23 AM

Beautiful resto on the pedal cluster double-a, now you need one of Engman's aluminum pedal boards (of which I'm a proud owner IPB Image ) so you can peel back the carpet and display your handywork.....it'd be a shame to hide it!

VERY NICE!! IPB Image

Posted by: double-a Feb 1 2005, 09:15 AM

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come & git it if you still have the need......cheep!

cool. very busy this week but the weekend looks good. did it come out ok?

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now you need one of Engman's aluminum pedal boards

it's on my list, along with bunches of other stuff i can't afford but have to have. IPB Image

Posted by: double-a Mar 1 2005, 09:34 PM

update, for those who care. more progress towards getting this rip van winkle back on the road after 20 years in hibernation.

purchased: new ssi 2.0 heat exchangers, muffler hanger, heater ducts and bursch muffler, all from hph (thanks rich!), for a complete swap from the old, ugly, and poor quality 75-76 exhaust to an earlier 2.0 setup.

ducts needed some cleaning. or maybe they didn't... i just felt like cleaning them. biggrin.gif
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cleaned and test-fitted. they'll never look this good again.
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heat ducts primed & painted with high-temp paint.
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installed, with much help from my wife, who is 7 months pregnant. yes, i can confirm that the paint on the bursch begins to burn off in approximately three minutes. ohmy.gif
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on saturday morning i dropped the car, started the engine, and took her for the first self-powered drive in more than two decades. runs and handles good! now the real work begins, making it shine.

~a

Posted by: xsboost90 Mar 1 2005, 09:41 PM

yeah i had a bursch header on my 82 924 and the spray can or what ever they used just burned right off... ohmy.gif She is lookin good though- the car- glad to see another making progress.

Posted by: Porsche Rescue Mar 1 2005, 09:45 PM

I'm jealous. That exhaust system looks great! Almost as pretty as the pedal cluster.

Posted by: Root_Werks Mar 2 2005, 11:19 AM

I love seeing another teener saved! Great work! Yeah, Bursch paint sucks! laugh.gif

Posted by: double-a Mar 2 2005, 11:23 AM

QUOTE (Root_Werks @ Mar 2 2005, 09:19 AM)
Great work!  Yeah, Bursch paint sucks!   laugh.gif

rich @ hph said the poor paint quality was due to extremely strict california regulations on paint. apparently the good stuff can't be used in cali because some obscure species of green speckled worm might absorb the particles and grow a third ear or something screwy.gif

~a

Posted by: Root_Werks Mar 2 2005, 11:39 AM

QUOTE (double-a @ Mar 2 2005, 09:23 AM)
QUOTE (Root_Werks @ Mar 2 2005, 09:19 AM)
Great work!  Yeah, Bursch paint sucks!   laugh.gif

rich @ hph said the poor paint quality was due to extremely strict california regulations on paint. apparently the good stuff can't be used in cali because some obscure species of green speckled worm might absorb the particles and grow a third ear or something screwy.gif

~a

lol2.gif lol2.gif I just let mine burn off and shot it with BBQ black paint which didn't last long either. dry.gif

Posted by: type47 Mar 2 2005, 01:50 PM

OK, i surrender all forms of 914 ownership. i nominate you for 914 owner of the year for your find and restoration work smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: double-a Mar 2 2005, 03:14 PM

QUOTE (type47 @ Mar 2 2005, 11:50 AM)
OK, i surrender all forms of 914 ownership. i nominate you for 914 owner of the year for your find and restoration work smilie_pokal.gif

thanks! i really needed a hobby and this has provided the right amounts of problem solving, messy work, and job satisfaction i needed to keep myself sane. but congratulate me when it's done, got a lot of work to do yet. i just hope the $$ doesn't run out before i'm done tinkering. wacko.gif

~a

Posted by: sixnotfour Mar 2 2005, 03:18 PM

Craiglist 1500.00 end all your troubles. ohmy.gif

That is one fine 914 glad to see you doing such a great job on it. smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: double-a May 2 2005, 01:56 PM

the saga continues. lots of fun stuff added. look what i got in the mail biggrin.gif
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koni sport struts installed, with adjustable springs. the old springs were terrible, and had a curve in them from the car sitting for 20 yrs. right front shock insert was rusted to the strut. took me two days, half a can of penetrant, and lots of hammering to get it out. smash.gif
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finally got the new zimmermann front rotors installed. also had front calipers rebuilt and polymer coated red by goldline brakes, a local outfit. the quality and craftsmanship are superb.
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euro light kit, and euro-spec h4 headlamps. very bright!
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momo steering wheel (i already don't like it - too small) and nice combo gauge from palo alto speedometer. installed led gauge illumination while i was in there. oh, and i also installed a weird looking shifter that i found somewhere wink.gif
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closeup of the rennshift.
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engine purrs like a kitten now, thanks to new, correct bosch plug wires (old ones were poor quality). that solves my persistent engine stutter.

also installed a passenger side mirror, and new rocker panels and rear valance too. next up: oil temp and pressure senders, and sway bars.

~a

Posted by: Grimstead May 2 2005, 02:30 PM

So I went and started your thread from page one, WOW!

What a great job and great find you have there.

Oh and congrats on the upcoming(?) addition to your family.

Posted by: double-a May 2 2005, 02:41 PM

thanks! we're about five weeks out now, scheduled c-section on june 7th. another boy, making the total 2 so far.

this car has been a good project, i've learned so much. for example, a week ago friday, i fried my ignition switch and had to learn how to read a current flow diagram to find out what happened. things that seemed so daunting before are starting to make sense, slowly. i highly recommend the "project car" as a means of learning stuff.

~a

Posted by: redshift May 2 2005, 03:57 PM

CHEAP!

Double your money, ask me how.



M

Posted by: double-a Jun 17 2005, 08:37 PM

more fun stuff! the oem later style bumpers have been removed. those suckers are seriously heavy, like 100# total for f & r! the car has now been backdated to earlier bumpers w/out knobs tits.

backdated front bumper: check.
passenger side mirror: check.
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backdated rear bumper: check.
euro tail light lenses: check.
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new fog light grilles: check.
camp 914 fog light kit: check.
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dr. evil rearview mirror: check.
rennshift: driving.gif
triple combo gauge from palo alto speedometer: check.
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and mucho mucho gracias to craig @ camp 914 for several hours of help backdating the bumpers, and of course for supplying excellent bumpers, new grilles, and the pilot fog lights/bracket kit.

~a

Posted by: Dead Air Jun 17 2005, 08:56 PM

QUOTE (double-a @ Jun 17 2005, 06:37 PM)
more fun stuff! the oem later style bumpers have been removed. those suckers are seriously heavy, like 100# total for f & r! the car has now been backdated to earlier bumpers w/out knobs.


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The technical term is "tits' . W/O tits biggrin.gif

smilie_pokal.gif
nice job!

Posted by: double-a Jun 17 2005, 09:04 PM

ok, tits it is. biggrin.gif

~a

Posted by: J P Stein Jun 17 2005, 09:05 PM

WOW....little reds. laugh.gif

Posted by: redshift Jun 17 2005, 09:08 PM

Seriously nice survivor you got thar, mang!

You need a Triad.. rolleyes.gif

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M

Posted by: Gint Jun 17 2005, 10:43 PM

That's the nicest $400 914 I've ever seen!

Nice work, looks great. GO out and drive before you forget what sleep is. Baby yet?

Posted by: double-a Jun 17 2005, 11:12 PM

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(Gint @ Jun 17 2005, 08:43 PM) That's the nicest $400 914 I've ever seen!

Nice work, looks great.  GO out and drive before you forget what sleep is.  Baby yet?


thx. just a few more things to do, then it's body and paint time. i suppose i've put close to 2000 miles on it since we got it running.

aiden matthew was born june 7... 8lb 7oz, 19 1/2 inches. he's a good baby so far, sleeps alot.


~a

Posted by: Gint Jun 17 2005, 11:17 PM

Looks like a keeper. Grats!

Posted by: double-a Jun 17 2005, 11:22 PM

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Looks like a keeper. Grats!

thx! he's a very calm baby, which is what we deserve after our first one, who is basically a 2 1/2-year-old human wrecking ball.

~a

Posted by: ThinAir914 Jun 17 2005, 11:40 PM

Wow! I missed this topic when it got started so I just went throught the whole thing.

Congrats to you and your wife on your new addition!

drooley.gif I am truly envious of your find for only $400. That is a real score, even with what you've put into the car. Looking very nice!

Posted by: smpiers Jun 18 2005, 06:46 AM

Nice find. Looks very original. Could you do us 75 owners a BIG favor and take a few pictures of all the vacuum hose placements?
Don't see many un-molested cars like this to use as a guide.
Thanks,
Shane

Posted by: double-a Jun 18 2005, 11:42 PM

ask and ye shall receive. the engine bay was very original indeed.

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~a

Posted by: double-a Jan 26 2006, 01:46 PM

it's been a long time since i updated this thread, but it looks like we're finally down to the finishing touches. she goes in for bodywork and paint today.

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i'm keeping it stock paint: nepal orange. also painting the rollbar/sail panels, valences and rocker covers body color as well.

~a

Posted by: double-a Feb 21 2006, 05:27 PM

paint!

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Posted by: double-a Feb 21 2006, 05:36 PM

again.

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Posted by: dlo914 Feb 21 2006, 05:44 PM

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your current avatar would've been nicely complimented w/ this previous shirt i designed for the club:
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Posted by: Dead Air Feb 21 2006, 07:12 PM

QUOTE (double-a @ Feb 21 2006, 03:36 PM)
again.

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Nice!! smile.gif

Posted by: Lou W Feb 21 2006, 10:12 PM

Sure looks good. I like that color. smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: double-a Feb 21 2006, 10:19 PM

yes, orange is good. the factory name is nepal orange though my wife calls it "napalm" orange. check tha blog for lots more photos. the guys are doing a super job with it. i brought the engine lid home to reassemble and the paint is like glass... not a speck or ripple anywhere. money well spent, or something wacko.gif

~a

Posted by: Eric_Shea Feb 21 2006, 10:43 PM

Source the plaid yet?


Posted by: double-a Feb 21 2006, 11:46 PM

i haven't located a fabric that exactly matches. i think i'm going to opt for the gts le mans seats anyway, so originality is not a big deal. i bought some groovy 70s orange striped stuff (from 1978 ford model year) at sms auto fabrics, we'll see how it looks in a couple months when the seats are finished.

i made a mockup that should be close to what they'll look like.

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~a

Posted by: double-a Apr 28 2006, 05:13 PM

start at the beginning to see what she looked like when i woke her from a 20 year slumber and hauled her out of a garage in portland.

with the arrival of my seats, the year and a half project is complete.

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ok, now i'm officially done spending money! (really) and nobody's happier than me, except maybe my wife.

~a

Posted by: double-a Apr 28 2006, 05:15 PM

i think... maybe i went a little overboard on the citrus color.

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~a

Posted by: double-a Apr 28 2006, 05:17 PM

last one.

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~a

Posted by: jet1 Apr 28 2006, 05:25 PM

NICE!

Posted by: edwardb33 Apr 28 2006, 07:36 PM

Nice thread, and very nice car


Posted by: URY914 Apr 28 2006, 07:41 PM

Great job clap56.gif smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: J P Stein Apr 28 2006, 07:45 PM

Very nice, Aaron.
It looks much better than the first time I saw it clap56.gif

Posted by: double-a Apr 28 2006, 09:34 PM

thanks jp, i'll bring it by some time. it runs better too (for a 1.8 wink.gif ), and handles much better.

~a

Posted by: DNHunt Apr 28 2006, 10:04 PM

Nice goin Aaron. Great looking car.

Dave

Posted by: Bruce Allert Apr 28 2006, 11:34 PM

That is so nice Aaron! You gotta bring it out to AX on Sunday wether ya AX it or not... just bring it!

........b

Posted by: double-a Apr 28 2006, 11:44 PM

what time do you all get done? i'm fairly involved at our church, the main reason i can't get out to ax real often.

~a

Posted by: rhodyguy Apr 29 2006, 12:34 AM

the seats look super! they're a bold statement. nice, nice car.

k

Posted by: J P Stein Apr 29 2006, 06:33 AM

QUOTE(double-a @ Apr 28 2006, 10:44 PM) *

what time do you all get done? i'm fairly involved at our church, the main reason i can't get out to ax real often.

~a


I am trying to get folks more runs. I think 6ea or so will streach out to
2:00 or so. We'll see how this sits with folks and maybe go for more next time.

Posted by: tdgray Apr 29 2006, 07:48 AM

Great job aa.

Helps when you start with a good platform...

Nice job on the seats. Well Done WOOF WOOF.


Posted by: double-a Nov 23 2020, 04:14 PM

holy crap, time flies. since restoration on this car was completed in 2006 i converted it to 5-lug: alumimum brembos and 914-6 struts up front, and 16" Fuchs all around.

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Posted by: Cairo94507 Nov 23 2020, 04:40 PM

Nice. Glad to see it is on the road and being enjoyed. beerchug.gif

Posted by: rgalla9146 Nov 23 2020, 05:21 PM

Replacing that fender will do more damage than good.
The skilled body person will have that worked out so well that it will require
almost no filler.
That car is beautiful.
Pics of passenger outer longitudinal please !

Posted by: double-a Nov 23 2020, 05:38 PM

QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Nov 23 2020, 03:21 PM) *

Replacing that fender will do more damage than good.
The skilled body person will have that worked out so well that it will require
almost no filler.
That car is beautiful.
Pics of passenger outer longitudinal please !


thx. the fender repair was made by cutting in half of a replacement fender, it worked pretty well. an image of passenger long is posted http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=21925&st=40#.

Posted by: rgalla9146 Nov 23 2020, 07:28 PM

QUOTE(double-a @ Nov 23 2020, 06:38 PM) *

QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Nov 23 2020, 03:21 PM) *

Replacing that fender will do more damage than good.
The skilled body person will have that worked out so well that it will require
almost no filler.
That car is beautiful.
Pics of passenger outer longitudinal please !


thx. the fender repair was made by cutting in half of a replacement fender, it worked pretty well. an image of passenger long is posted http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=21925&st=40#.


That'll teach me to look at dates ! Doooh !
Bears repeating....That car is beautiful !

Posted by: 930cabman Nov 26 2020, 05:29 PM

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thx! he's a very calm baby, which is what we deserve after our first one, who is basically a 2 1/2-year-old human wrecking ball.

~a


Must be close to 18 years, is he in medical school?

btw the orange beauty is looking great

Posted by: double-a Nov 26 2020, 08:27 PM

QUOTE(930cabman @ Nov 26 2020, 03:29 PM) *

Must be close to 18 years, is he in medical school?

btw the orange beauty is looking great


unfortunately no. at around age 5 he was found to have intellectual disability.

~a

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