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Posted by: airsix May 24 2003, 02:56 PM

Today's menu includes resurfaced flywheel, new seal, new kep stage II clutch w/ all fresh new hardware, and...... (Drum roll)
NO MORE STRETCHING/BREAKING CABLE/TUBE BS!!!!!!!

Alright ladies, show's over. Back to work.

-Ben M.


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Posted by: Aaron Cox May 24 2003, 04:58 PM

hydraulic clutch? way cool! how/where are you going to plumb it?

Posted by: airsix May 24 2003, 06:29 PM

Hard-line goes right up the clutch tube. It's the perfect fit - just like it was made for it. MC is an aluminum Tilton (Brad's suggestion). Flex line to bridge from firewall to engine mount bar is a brake flex hose. Piece-o-cake. I love it when a plan comes together. Oops, almost forgot - 2psi residual presure valve to prevent drainback & spongy feeling.

Total project cost was about the same as 2 clutch cables, so I figure if it lasts 5 years it'll have paid for its self (in addition to the pleasure of not having to adjust a stinking cable every month).

-Ben M.

Posted by: Qarl May 24 2003, 06:45 PM

Keep us posted on the rest of the install details. And take/post pictures!

Regards,

Posted by: Gint May 24 2003, 07:52 PM

Nice Ben. What are you using for a master cylinder? Where is it mounted?

Posted by: Aaron Cox May 24 2003, 09:52 PM

problem solved

Posted by: Lawrence914-6 May 25 2003, 07:41 AM

Sound like it could be a really easy kit to put together... I hope you can take pictures of the install of the MC and hard lines.

-Rusty

Posted by: Gint May 25 2003, 08:23 AM

Like I said, where/how did you mount the MC?

Posted by: Brad Roberts May 25 2003, 10:39 AM

Gint,

You mount it right next to the other MC. Flip the clevis over for the stock clutch cable and use it to push on the new MC threaded shaft for the clutch.

Great job Ben We are getting ready to do this on 930 converted 914. I typically use Neal... but the CNC is a tad shorter. I like it.

B

Posted by: Bleyseng May 25 2003, 11:32 AM

Brad, post some pics as this looks like a killer mod to do. I am tired of fighting the clutch cable!
Geoff

Posted by: Gint May 25 2003, 11:32 AM

I need pics!!!

Posted by: Bleyseng May 25 2003, 11:37 AM

How about using a clutch mc off a RX7? Nice and small design.
Geoff

Posted by: Brad Roberts May 25 2003, 11:52 AM

The Tilton/Neal/CNC MC's have a two bolt setup almost identical to the stock MC. You drill two holes..weld a thin scab plate to the flat wall area ..and mount it next to the stock MC. I use a second brake resovoir for the fluid.


Make that 3 holes.. 2 bolt holes and one BIG one for the MC itself.


B

Posted by: Dave_Darling May 25 2003, 11:54 AM

Heh... Nope, you get to substitute the joy of bleeding the clutch hydraulic system, and flushing the system every other year....

I think I might prefer the hydraulic throw-out bearing (!!!) that Wevo has. Don't know if they've got one for the 901, but there was one for the 915! Kewl stuff.

--DD

Posted by: Bleyseng May 25 2003, 11:58 AM

The Mazda one has a built in resevoir that sits on it. I have one laying around. I was toying with installing it but hadn't come up with the solution at the other end.
I thought WEVO had one for the 901?

Geoff

Posted by: Brad Roberts May 25 2003, 12:04 PM

I dont think there would be enough room under there for the resovoir.. you know how hard it is to getbthe lines in the stock MC (no room)

B

Posted by: airsix May 25 2003, 04:46 PM

Yeah, I'd love the WEVO too, but $750 was about $650 over my target buget. (I'm sure it is a very well designed and built system)

-Ben M.

Posted by: aufaber May 25 2003, 05:51 PM

Looks a lot like mine

Works great, i used all wilwood bits. Pretty much the same thing though. I went with hard line all the way back except for some braided at the master and slave. I have since switched to braided from the firewall back since I realy didn't like how unsupported the hardline was hanging out there.

-Aaron G.

Posted by: airsix May 25 2003, 06:59 PM

Nice! I like it better than mine - your mount has the slave in better alignment with the fork. I think tonight I might go out and fab a new mount like yours. Thanks for posting the pic.

-Ben M.

Posted by: 914Timo May 26 2003, 12:02 AM

Very nice, but like Gint and others I would like to see pics about the MC. I am not sure if I understood all Brad explaned.....

Posted by: aufaber May 26 2003, 01:05 AM

Well brads way of mounting a remote resivour master cyl. on the other side of the firewall is definately cleaner in the long run. I have mine all in the cabin, making the clutch pedal face sit about 1" closer.

Posted by: Brad Roberts May 26 2003, 01:23 AM

The best part is: nothing changes inside the car.

Aaron your pretty tall if I recall correctly.. does that setup work ok for you ?? You could easily use the pieces you have to move it to other side and buy the remote kit (they sell the line and resovoir seperate)

B

Posted by: aufaber May 26 2003, 01:30 AM

I'm 6'4", actualy haven't had any trouble yet. I figured I would eventualy put a remote MC in when I was going to be doing work on the other side anyway.

I'm suprised I don't even notice that the pedal is closer. i'll see how it works as I start driving the car more often. Yesterday replaced the leaking timing chain cover that was putting oil onto the belts.

-Aaron G>

Posted by: airsix May 27 2003, 10:28 AM

Project update:

What a PITA. I spoke way to soon when I said this was a piece-o-cake. Slave cyl install was a no-brainer. Plumbing the lines was a no-brainer. Installing the master cyl? Let's just say I've got 4 hours into it and all I've managed to do is make a big mess. Trying to establish a good mounting surface for the MC and still leave enought room in front of it so the line doesn't run into the suspension support has been a nightmare. Tonight I'll pull the MC back off and use a sawsall to cut out the mess I've made and start over.

-Ben M.

Posted by: Brad Roberts May 27 2003, 10:31 AM

Do you have a 90 degree banjo on the end of the clutch MC ??

Show me a pic of your clutch MC.

Ha ha.. clutch MC. << My new rap star name.




"Clutch MC"

Posted by: airsix May 27 2003, 10:58 AM

The nose of the MC is female AN. It came with an AN line coupler (join female MC to female AN fitting) and a AN-to-3/16-flare adapter. On the way home from work I was going to try to pick up a 90 elbow for the 3/16 flare since that's what the rest of my lines are. I hadn't thought of using a banjo fitting. That would make sense (assuming I can find the parts locally).

The biggest problem is the pan. Making a flat spot large enougth for the MC to mount to, and having it point it the right direction has me pulling my hair out.

-Ben M.