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Posted by: Teknon Dec 17 2004, 01:22 PM

OK, the new triangle piece that you have to buy, if your car never had sways, is shown installed w/one point of the triangle pointing straight down. Thus, the reason for grinding out the sheet metal, inside the car, to accommodate the triangle.

Shown in Figure 6 on this link..... www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/914_front_swaybar/914_front_swaybar.htm

Why can't you just lay down the triangle with the point up instead? Then, you don't have to cut any thing. Looks to me the cut hole for the bar is in the same exact place.

Would there be any problem doing it like that?
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Posted by: nebreitling Dec 17 2004, 01:51 PM

BTDT. what you're suggesting won't work. you'll have to grind away the material that pelicanparts has indicated to get all 3 holes for the triangle. don't half-ass this, else your bar can tear through the sheet metal!

welcome to 914hell!

Posted by: Teknon Dec 17 2004, 02:22 PM

Hey Neb,

Have you ever put sways on a 914 that hasn't already had them? Why would I cut the car if I don't need too?

I'm suggesting not to cut the car.

Posted by: Jeff Bonanno Dec 17 2004, 02:25 PM

Nathan is right - not much cutting required! my 76 had factory sways but i did have fun cutting into skline's car to do just such an install.

jbb

Posted by: Engman Dec 17 2004, 02:28 PM

Put mine on the 73. If you want to do it right the bird article is correct. If you flip them and put the point up you will have to grind a bunch off the bottom edge of the triangle piece to put the center hole in the correct spot. This will weaken the support gigen by the inner triangle mount. ---- It is your car, your choice. But this will not have the same support as the factory ones.......



M

Posted by: Teknon Dec 17 2004, 04:06 PM

[COLOR=red][SIZE=7] Here is a picture of the installation. Again "Why can't I just drill the three holes where there at.


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Posted by: Root_Werks Dec 17 2004, 04:17 PM

I see what you are saying now. Hmm, I have not ever thought about that one. Do you have a pic of the other side (fender well)?

Posted by: Mueller Dec 17 2004, 04:40 PM

wait till you install your gas tank back in, then you'll know why

Posted by: Jeff Bonanno Dec 17 2004, 04:42 PM

well, you can do it however you deem appropriate. what Nathan was suggesting is that if you're in there, you can do the job in a "tried and true" way. there is a great thread which i go back to read for inspiration of "how to do it right", click here:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=9173&hl=sway,and,installation

check on the third page or so about front sway bracket install.

jbb

Posted by: Teknon Dec 17 2004, 05:26 PM

Here's the pic of the otherside.


Always question Authority.


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Posted by: Teknon Dec 17 2004, 05:34 PM

Dear Muller Design Works. The 1" hole was cut exacty as it was templated on Pelican. If the bar is in the hole made by the template. Why wouldn't it fit. Please Advise.

Posted by: Teknon Dec 17 2004, 05:36 PM

Jeff, Tried maybe but not always true. Do you also drive to work the same way each day? Wanna buy some land? Joe DiTommaso

Posted by: SirAndy Dec 17 2004, 05:38 PM

hmmm, for some reason, the round mounting area looks higher on your car ...

here's a pic from my install, not a stock bar tho ...

Posted by: Engman Dec 17 2004, 05:44 PM

See the edge of the metal under the bottom of the triangle - this will create a 'gap' between the mating surfaces. You want the inner and outer sway mounts to clamp this together tightly - no gaps. Having the gap in there will allow some flex of the support metal (car body). It will flex under hard cornering. But as I said earlier - its your car, your decision.....

M

Posted by: Mueller Dec 17 2004, 05:44 PM

upon looking at your picture, it is hard to tell the exact location of the thru hole, but if you say you put the hole in the same place, then you should be fine....never had a car with a factory swaybar, maybe the article was trying to make the install look as factory as possible...

I do know that if a bar is installed slighly higher and then upgraded to a larger dia. bar such as a Tarett or Smart bar, there could be interferance with the tank...it's close.....

Posted by: Jeff Bonanno Dec 17 2004, 05:57 PM

Sorry Joe - i wasn't trying to offend you. i don't claim to be an 'authority'. i was simply offering what i believe to be sound advice. it sounds like you have made up your mind on how you want to do it so go ahead. i do agree with Engman that there should be no gap in the fitment and with Mike that the bar will be a tight fit with the tank if the vertical height goes north of stock.

jbb

ps i do drive to work the same way each day and avoid trucks with trailer hitches

Posted by: Teknon Dec 17 2004, 06:03 PM

My opinion is this If you put it in the "normal" way. you cut your car. If you cut your car the bracket still has to span the seam. This application does not have any gaps more than "normal" and the car is not cut.

Posted by: Jeff Bonanno Dec 17 2004, 06:05 PM

good point. i used a dremmel on Scott's install to flatten the seam.

Posted by: nebreitling Dec 17 2004, 06:25 PM

go for it, dude, no one's challenging you. just beware of two things:

-fuel tank clearance, as mueller said. also, even if you have enough clearance with THIS bar, consider the possibility that someday you'll upgrade to a wider hollow bar which may not clear the tank.

-changing the bar location also changes the geometry with regards to the drop links. now, i've always thought that most droplinks were too long for lowered cars anyway (my adjustable droplinks are adjusted as short as they'll go) -- but keep this in mind.

Posted by: Teknon Dec 17 2004, 08:00 PM

Neb, Its in the same Fkn hole as EVERYBODYS. The triangle is turned.

Posted by: nebreitling Dec 17 2004, 08:05 PM

that's weird, then. go for it

Posted by: Aaron Cox Dec 17 2004, 08:05 PM

turn it 360 degrees and mount it there

jk....

my larger bar interfered with the tank...had to oblong the holes <_<

Posted by: skline Dec 17 2004, 08:44 PM

I had that problem also, I have a 22mm bar and the tank hit it the first time I tried to put it in. Mine is mounted correctly also with the hole at the bottom. This whole car was one big modification after another.