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Posted by: 914itis Oct 8 2013, 09:58 PM

I was doing very well with my conversion, until installing the shift rod. It's touching the headers. What did I miss?
New shift rod?

Posted by: McMark Oct 8 2013, 10:00 PM

There MAY be a few people who don't have the exact details of your project memorized. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: gms Oct 8 2013, 10:04 PM

If you are talking about installing a side shift rod in a 914/6 conversion you will need to customize the rear shift rod like this
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Posted by: 914itis Oct 8 2013, 10:06 PM

QUOTE(McMark @ Oct 9 2013, 12:00 AM) *

There MAY be a few people who don't have the exact details of your project memorized. rolleyes.gif

Thanks Mark
Here is the thread http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=217433&st=0&#entry1936813

Posted by: 914itis Oct 8 2013, 10:09 PM

QUOTE(gms @ Oct 9 2013, 12:04 AM) *

If you are talking about installing a side shift rod in a 914/6 conversion you will need to customize the rear shift rod like this
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Yes that's what I am doing. Do you have detailed instructions or do I just flip it around?

Posted by: gms Oct 8 2013, 10:22 PM

I had to cut a side shift rod and weld in a 4 cylinder tail shift rod and a little adjustment with a conduit bender

Posted by: Luke M Oct 9 2013, 06:46 AM

QUOTE(914itis @ Oct 8 2013, 08:58 PM) *

I was doing very well with my conversion, until installing the shift rod. It's touching the headers. What did I miss?
New shift rod?



Check out the links below it should answer your question.
The last link has a lot of info on other 6 conv stuff also.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=142395
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=114741
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=112239

Posted by: jimkelly Oct 9 2013, 07:12 AM

I just made one - straight and longer - for my v8.

see post#16 - the thick metal is a joy to weld - sheet metal - not so much.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=219911

I have a spare tail shift bar if you need it - pictured below


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Posted by: 914itis Oct 9 2013, 08:25 AM

QUOTE(jimkelly @ Oct 9 2013, 09:12 AM) *

I just made one - straight and longer - for my v8.

see post#16 - the thick metal is a joy to weld - sheet metal - not so much.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=219911

I have a spare tail shift bar if you need it - pictured below

Thanks Jim.
I think I have one if I didn't throw it away last week headbang.gif I think welder.gif is on my future. If I find the rod, I can take care of that this evening.

If not, get ready to ship Jim. I should know in an hr.

Posted by: jimkelly Oct 9 2013, 09:29 AM

I await your update.

I also have this 39.25"






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Posted by: 914itis Oct 9 2013, 09:36 AM

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I await your update.

I also have this 39.25"

Found one, thanks.

From my understanding, the rod must be straight , no curves?

Posted by: jimkelly Oct 9 2013, 09:39 AM

cool - I have to double check the welds of the one on my car - as this bar need as a lot of heat from the mig. finally saw an actual weld puddle today playing with the above bar.

an double check length, don't go off my 39.25" measurement.

Posted by: gms Oct 9 2013, 11:41 AM

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From my understanding, the rod must be straight , no curves?

In my experience having a curve in it make the plunging action better at the rear shift console

Posted by: Jeffs9146 Oct 9 2013, 11:45 AM

QUOTE(gms @ Oct 9 2013, 10:41 AM) *

QUOTE(914itis @ Oct 9 2013, 10:36 AM) *

From my understanding, the rod must be straight , no curves?

In my experience having a curve in it make the plunging action better at the rear shift console


I left a small curving in mine and it works well but it was harder to get the curve in the correct spot so it didn't hit the header!




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Posted by: 914itis Oct 9 2013, 11:45 AM

QUOTE(gms @ Oct 9 2013, 01:41 PM) *

QUOTE(914itis @ Oct 9 2013, 10:36 AM) *

From my understanding, the rod must be straight , no curves?

In my experience having a curve in it make the plunging action better at the rear shift console

Should I cut the tail shift bar before the curve? What do you think?

Posted by: Jeffs9146 Oct 9 2013, 12:02 PM

QUOTE(914itis @ Oct 9 2013, 10:45 AM) *

QUOTE(gms @ Oct 9 2013, 01:41 PM) *

QUOTE(914itis @ Oct 9 2013, 10:36 AM) *

From my understanding, the rod must be straight , no curves?

In my experience having a curve in it make the plunging action better at the rear shift console

Should I cut the tail shift bar before the curve? What do you think?


If you are doing it alone you should go straight because if you go curved it will take two people to get it aligned so it doesn't hit with the header or oil tubes. I installed the two cut off ends. Then I tacked the center section in place and had my friend run through the gears while I watched to make sure every gear went in all the way and didn't hit any thing! It took 3 tries to get it perfect. With the straight bar you just need to make sure the two cone screws are aligned and the proper length so you can do it on the bench!

Posted by: 914itis Oct 9 2013, 12:08 PM

Thanks, straight it is.

Posted by: Jgilliam914 Oct 9 2013, 12:25 PM

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Posted by: jimkelly Oct 9 2013, 12:26 PM

here is a video of me shifting thru the gears with straight bar.
good thing I did this - did not realize how loose my engine and trans are - whew.
seems to me, curves should make no difference.
sounds like my shifter could use some grease : )

http://youtu.be/MEZGsCXrBCw

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