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Posted by: azbill Dec 22 2004, 02:10 PM

I am looking for a set of Ht EX for my '73 2.0
Anyone know who has them or the phone number for SSI? Just called Trautman and they are out of stock.Thanks for the help.
AZbill

Posted by: 1973914 Dec 22 2004, 02:25 PM

This should probably be over in the Wanted/For Sale section, but I have a set i want to get rid of. Used, pretty clean, and only 150 for the pair off my 73 2.0.

Posted by: seanery Dec 22 2004, 02:30 PM

GPR had the best price last time I checked.
Expect about $400 or so for a new set.
I got my used set for half.

Posted by: jd74914 Dec 22 2004, 02:33 PM

SSI's are nice.

I got my used set for $180 IPB Image

Posted by: greg.treadway Dec 22 2004, 02:54 PM

Just FYI, new sets are going up in price 20% after the first of the year.

Posted by: Marty Yeoman Dec 22 2004, 02:59 PM

I am thinking of replacing the HEs on my '75 1.8 (actually 1.9) with SS type.
Custom muffler additional.
Any recomedations (tube diameter, style, etc)?

Posted by: azbill Dec 22 2004, 03:39 PM

I just checked AA price - $564.41 for the left side and $480.70 for the right side. I know parts cost money but these prices are from somewhere off this planet. Dr. 914 is pricing himself out. Good help us if corrners the market.

Posted by: Jake Raby Dec 22 2004, 03:55 PM

Damn... Look who is here...

Mr. Treadway!

This should be VERY interesting!

Posted by: greg.treadway Dec 22 2004, 03:56 PM

I don't know how you got those prices (I'd like to know). Very weird. My price is $355 each side no matter 1.7 or 1.8 or 2.0... If there is an interest we would beging making these with SSI blessing. I don't know that the market is there. The new price after Jan 1 is $550 each side as the cost of steel has gone up. I just spoke with John at SSI - this is information is 10 minutes old. (I'm not trying to sell anything here, I'm just giving information based on the last post).

Posted by: Rhodes71/914 Dec 22 2004, 03:58 PM

QUOTE (Jake Raby @ Dec 22 2004, 01:55 PM)
Damn... Look who is here...

Mr. Treadway!

This should be VERY interesting!

You mean you missed his entrance to the club, that was interesting.

Posted by: Root_Werks Dec 22 2004, 04:01 PM

Greg is right, SSI is raising prices after next week. But even at 20%, that would make the current deal you could get from GPR at $400 go to $480 for a set. AA will be more than double that. So best to shop around before buying. Also, I know a couple of guys who did some bulk buys from SSI before. They saved a ton of $$$, so that is always an option provided things don't change for SSI much after the new new. Hey, a group buy! IPB Image

Posted by: newdeal2 Dec 22 2004, 04:06 PM

I put a nice used set from eBay on my 2.0. They are 1.8's and will work but you need hanger and exaust to match.

Posted by: Jake Raby Dec 22 2004, 05:45 PM

The PM he sent me was even more interesting... and my reply was pretty bold! Not many ways you could misunderstand that one!

Posted by: Ray Warren Dec 22 2004, 06:17 PM

I talked to the guy at Triadwest the other day about a
muffler and I'm pretty sure he said that he had some.

Posted by: seanery Dec 22 2004, 07:04 PM

The thing about the prices going up is BS!!!

The 2.0 SSI's have been out of production for a long time. John has a stockpile at the SSI facility.
Raising the price is kinda shitty - IF - you blame it on the climbing cost of steel. Raising it
because you have a lot of inventory that is just sitting is a different reason.

Still, call GPR, they have the best pricing on SSI's.

Posted by: anthony Dec 22 2004, 07:18 PM

I thought SSIs were NLA now? I thought I heard Brad say that one time. Maybe they decided to do another run, hence the price increase?

Posted by: azbill Dec 22 2004, 07:50 PM

I called GPR - they do not have any in stock said SSI Ht Ex are not available. I'm looking at a used set - hope they workout.

Posted by: SirAndy Dec 22 2004, 07:59 PM

QUOTE (anthony @ Dec 22 2004, 05:18 PM)
I thought SSIs were NLA now? I thought I heard Brad say that one time. Maybe they decided to do another run, hence the price increase?

no. john (owner of SSI) has about 100 sets of the 2.0L exchangers left.
they're sitting in the last bay on the right of the first building.
he has not done a production run of those in over 10+ years.
and i know he won't be doing another run any time soon.

the only reason i can see why those would go up 20% in price is that someone wants to make more money.
either john or the resellers.
either way, that has nothing to do with material prices.

i'd say try to get a used set before you fork out large sums of cash for a overpriced new set ...

heck, i won a set at the reno wramble and i gave it away for free!
IPB Image Andy

Posted by: Air_Cooled_Nut Dec 22 2004, 08:12 PM

QUOTE (greg.treadway @ Dec 22 2004, 12:54 PM)
Just FYI, new sets are going up in price 20% after the first of the year.

Fuckin' great. My 2.0L needs SS as well IPB Image

Posted by: jim_hoyland Dec 22 2004, 08:33 PM

Do the 1.8L engines require a special SS heat exchanger because of the manifolds ? Can a 2.0 be adapted ?

Posted by: Brad Roberts Dec 22 2004, 08:46 PM

2.0 heat exchangers bolt right onto 74/5/6 1.8 heads with no mods. The 1.8 engines used the same size tube diameter as the 2.0... so you wont gain anything.

SSI has NO 1.7/1.8 HE's and I seriously DOUBT he did another production run for 2.0 considering the fact that he was only selling 1-2 sets a month compared to 30-40 sets of the 911 SSI's.

HPH has 3-4 sets of 2.0 SSI heat exchangers in stock. Pricing is probably 225$ apiece plus shipping.

B

Posted by: ablose58 Dec 22 2004, 09:09 PM

Brad you got a pm. AL

Posted by: ninepfourteen Dec 23 2004, 09:47 AM

Guys,

I have two sets. Both off 2.0's. $350.00 (plus shipping from 21502) buys either set. PM@ fpfeiffer@gcnetmail.net with interest. Thanks.

Posted by: 1973914 Dec 23 2004, 09:56 AM

well just had a chance to get online again... looks like my 150 for two is a steal IPB Image

Posted by: Rhodes71/914 Dec 23 2004, 11:11 AM

QUOTE (1973914 @ Dec 23 2004, 07:56 AM)
well just had a chance to get online again... looks like my 150 for two is a steal IPB Image

you have a pm

Posted by: 1973914 Dec 23 2004, 11:43 AM

AZBill has first dibs. If he doesnt want them then will entertain offers after that. Thanks for the inerest! I do have other items and will place those on the classifieds now.

Posted by: 1973914 Dec 23 2004, 12:54 PM

Bill grabbed them. Good luck to everyone in finding a reasonable alternative. To my mind over 1k for heat exchangers is highway robbery, but then again the last year they made this car was 1976, and they were only made for 6 years. With a pretty limited manufacturing range from so long ago (30 years!), its pretty amazing anybody makes new parts for our cars...